The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:We were laughing because the lie detector never detected one lie, the baddie detector never detected one baddie, and the role checker never found a baddie.

Mongoose wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: Made me want to go watch old favorites again.

You have unmasked our sole intent for producing this game!

S~V~S wrote:All the chatty people are dead

Nevinera wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Nevinera wrote:Damn, I trusted him :-(
Rip, sir. Pretty sure you were good.

I don't know, I kind of thought the opposite.

He pinned the final vote on Dom, which is the type of evidence I trust most.
I thought he might be Indy, but they used their one kill on him, so that seems unlikely now.

You and I have radically different approaches to assigning trust in this game, of course.
By the numbers, he was probably a civ - otherwise he was playing some high-risk games with his teammates.
Not impossible, of course, and I'd never treat it as *proof*.. But still solid evidence of civness IMO.

Off meds - stone cleared, thank god. Very little sleep however.

S~V~S wrote:

Nevinera wrote:Damn, I trusted him :-(
Rip, sir. Pretty sure you were good.

I don't know, I kind of thought the opposite.

kneel4justice wrote:Hedgie, what happened to suspecting me for voting for FH?

Roxy wrote:

Nevinera wrote:Hedge, do you have any other thoughts about Roxy?

I think I'm going to vote that way, based on her D2 vote to save Dom.
It seems like a risky move for her to make, but it's a lot less risky in a speed game than it would be in a full one.
If it worked, she'd save a teammate, get a civ lynched, and it wouldn't cost her *anything* until Dom died,
at which point she's got suspicion aimed her way, but no certainty.

And I haven't got much else to vote on, honestly.

I am never one to save or not teamies. I get that this is a speed game and you just replaced but you are wrong about me Nev. I wish you could at the very least have waited for me to respond before voting.

Very little from Hedge to even respond to and I am given no time to respond before Nev voted.
I have no idea what to think tbqh!

A Person wrote:I voted for the voopinator to throw people off of VAL's tracks.

Roxy wrote:SVS I know you were talking to Hedge so was I

hedge so its I am bad bc I didn't vote Dom hahha this is almost comical. Why should I have jumped on a bandwagon I hadn't even discussed? is it kk that everyone just bandwagons on vote bc a baddie was lynched? Hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it? Really great logic.

Roxy wrote:hedge your voting record is nothing to shout about lol
Sorry TH pinged me more than Dom. I talked that day about TH I waited all day for a response he never said anything until after the lynch. I just didn't get the Dom suspicion

Nevinera wrote:I'll do a full reread later today, but for now I've got voting analysis at least. (Forgive me if I retread old stuff, it's new to me)

First, Dom's death: he wasn't in the lead on that vote, so either we have vote manipulations in play
(I would guess that the coffee might be a vote bonus?), or hammett decided to switch the lynch at him.
Since I can't see any reason for him to do that (knowing the TH was Nora), I think the former is more likely.
Not that that gets us anything useful yet.

Kate, FH, and Hedge almost got Dom the first day.
Since Hedge was the last to vote for Dom, and the vote ended up tied,
I think we can safely assume that Hedge is at least not on Dom's team.
I'm a bit surprised she's still alive, but I suppose killing Kate was almost as logical.

Dom jumped on Lizzy's self-bandwagon *really* early in the votes on day 1.
if she's bad, that's a strange move, but not indefensible I suppose -
people do tend to avoid jumping on an established bandwagon that early in the game.
It seems like a terrible move on Dom's part though, either way;
I'm assuming that's part of what got him lynched the next day.

Timmer, as the last vote for FH the day Dom *didn't* get lynched, obviously has my attention.
I don't vote for people that can't defend themselves unless I'm sure though, so I'll bring him back up tomorrow.

K4J got a second vote for dom in before the TH train really got going day 2, so he seems likely to not be a teammate as well.
Though I admit I don't yet understand why everyone voted for TH yesterday..
I reread that day, and I still don't see very much supporting logic.
I wish Timmer weren't silenced - he's on the TH voter list too, which makes him my best suspect by far :-\

I noticed that the discussion has centered around "civ" and "baddie" - do we have some reason to believe the indies to be civ-aligned?
They seem to have at least a few kills at their disposal, so I have trouble believing that they're 'win with anyone' independents..

kneel4justice wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

timmer wrote:Hey all, so reading back, I think I trust Hedge and would like to hear her thoughts on the gsme.

Aww, thanks Sorry I was not here sooner. I have been thinking about our LOST team with MR lynched the first day and you, TH, Dom, me, plus Rose and Bree as baddies. Since its possible that you and/or TH are on a team with Dom I have been wondering, with him threatened so early on, what tactic a team might take. I can't decide in a speed game if you'd throw him under the bus or make at least a save attempt.

Looking back at the poll from Day 1 Kate, FH, and I were votes 7,8,9 for Dom, so I imagine this cased some baddie panic with no viable rival at the time. K4j jumping on FH lined up one nicely, hence my suspicion there, but then TH and Timmer jumped on. Roxy stands out to me as well for her late vote on Metal, but since it was a tie it was a risk that Dom wouldn't die unless it wasn't a tie.

Roxy was spot on about Timmer in LOST, but if she's baddie too then I am not sure I would trust her instincts on this one. K4J voted Dom on Day 2, but I just don't know if that's a teamie under the bus move or not since it looked like DOm could be saved.

Votes K4j/b]

Linki - what really?? I was just about to vote Roxy. Lol.

You think I am scum because I voted FH? I guess there is nothing I can say to defend that. I was simply wrong. I still think I had a good reason for voting, and not sure why you are suspicious of me vs. the other votes but Ok Hedgie, Ok.

I am happy to reevaluate depending on what happens in the lynch on TH. However, too many people have voted for him for my liking. So it's either baddies throwing him under the bus or he's a civ. Yes your vote for FH is suspicious just like TH and Timmer, that shouldn't be a surprise to you. It's that you led the switch to FH when Dom suddenly got 3 votes in a row. I agree TH was also suspicious following your vote after making the Dom case, but he's probably getting lynched today, so we will see.

Linki omg really? well first time for everything I guess...?

timmer wrote:Hey all, so reading back, I think I trust Hedge and would like to hear her thoughts on the gsme.

Kate wrote:So i went back and looked at the poll results and on day one these are the people who voted Flyin High. kneel4justice (12), Turnip Head (13), timmer (15). I think we can find a baddie in this group.

On day 2 K4J voted Dom, first. (Did we ever discuss the fact that Dom only had 2 votes and was lynched over TH?) So I think its least likely to be him.

Out of the other 2, TH has been more outgoing with his willingness to post LD statements and, added to that, Timmer's vote sure looks like a save of Dom. My plan atm is a vote for Timmer.

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Well I caught up mostly. Soo, I was not getting super civv vibes from The Turps, but then Epi spelled it out. I do not think he is a teamie with SVS and Dom, but agree with k4j that posting lots of LD statements seems distracting possibly. I am not sure what to make of Epi right now either, but besides his clearly misguided Day 1 vote I am feeling what he's throwing sometimes. Ok maybe just about TH.

Since all the cool kids are doing it. I am not bad. I do not anyone else's role in this game.

Votes TH

Hedgie baby, just because I vote for you doesn't mean I think ill of you. As I said, I think the world of ya. Would love to buy ya a drink sometime.

Am I to understand that you would like me to do a number on Turnip Head? I'm an honest fella, and I pay my gambling debts on time.

And whilst I am here:

"I do not anyone else's role in this game."

I have no clue how the liar man is gonna process that doozy. Jeepers.

agleaminranks wrote:Welp, no freakin surprise there I guess. I should never get my hopes up to make it past the first day. Later katorz~

S~V~S wrote:Not a fan of "reaction" votes, although i know Epi has done it before. But it can cause i baddie pile up, and innocents die.

Turnip Head wrote:Yeah, but it hasn't played out that way so far. Most people seem to understand what his intentions were, no one is thinking of piling onto his Hedgeowl vote.

I think a reaction vote is just as useful, Day 1, as a random vote or any other silly Day 1 reason.

Turnip Head wrote:Haha. That's a good point. We do seem to be a pretty reasonable bunch so far.

I agree that Dom's vote post is weird. I feel like he was acting like there was a case on Hedge that people were discussing, when really it was just Epi's vote (for whatever reason he made it). Dom randomized, so he himself is not part of the lynch, but in that post you quoted above he's trying to set it up as being an Epi vs. Hedge lynch while he's gone.

Epignosis wrote:Rats and mice.

You tell me how many miss the vote, and I'll vote the way you want me to on Day 2.

Takin' bets.

Epignosis wrote:Never seen anything like this done before, but I figure, eh, since we got woyk to do:

A Person
Roxy
Hedgeowl
Vompatti
Flyin' High
timmer
Metalmarsh89
S~V~S
Lizzy
Epignosis
Dom
Kate
Turnip Head
SpaceDaisy
agleaminranks
Enygma Eve
Kneel4justice
boo

You fellas better watch what you say.

Epignosis wrote:I've seen enough of this.

The numbahs on the doohr ahre tree-one-fourah.

Dat equals eight, see?

The crook, in my expert opinion, must therefore be Hedgeowl.

S~V~S wrote:This is Film Noir; going with the Private Detectives office.