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by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:08 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
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Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

fingersplints wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:That's what I would change. Standard end times for the day/night.
I agree with this. I found it hard to keep track with the times changing, and missed a lot of votes. But I did enjoy the speed aspect of it at the same time. :ponder:
Yes ^wss. It was good tactic on the your part to throw us off though. Also when they came in so fast, it had to be from an active player, but I didn't put DH in that role until too late.
by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:23 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

Why did you say I was bad llama? I could have won with some civvies, although not you I guess possibly. ;)
by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:25 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Shhhhhhhhhhh.
Some people took that too literally.
:nicenod: :noble:
by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:23 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

I was ticked at you TH, but with MP and Elo gone I thought it was a lost cause anyway.

Freakin Suicide Girl, TH! Lol.

So, MM was my last woman left? :sigh: I would have prob tried to lynch you too.
by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:11 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

thellama73 wrote:But yeah, I didn't role check him, I just know his game.
Who did you role check?
by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 3:09 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

Who were all my ladies Epi?
by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:40 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

I really wanted to run screaming into the thread yelling "Boys against Girls!!!", but figured that was taking it too far. Llama would have laughed though...Impossible to know who to "save" as well.

Thank you for the fun game Epi!!

Linki :blush: I think thats the nicest thing you've ever said to me. I have to say I was embarrassingly uncertain about you being a baddie for far too long. Neverwhere was a complete surprise though.
by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:34 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ohmygod, Golden and Hedgie suddenly trust each other! Let's lynch 'em! :haha:
Right? DH was great at ignoring everything I posted, but still sounding like he was the all confidant civ. :noble:
by Hedgeowl
Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:32 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

:fist:

I cried on the inside when MP was lynched and ALL the single ladies lynched after him. I was never going to win this game, but every lynch was a nail in the coffin. :doh:

Congrats winners!!
by Hedgeowl
Sun May 31, 2015 9:41 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

Golden wrote:llama vouched for me on day one, before he could reasonably be considered the detective I think. Not that I want to build the case against me, but... truth is truth.

Here is the thing - if we are both good, if you and I are genuinely both civilian....

Then MP was thrown under the bus.

And that changes everything completely. That's a world in which DH could be bad, even TB... I don't know. Maybe they had the plan to take him out because they figured it would win them the game and he wasn't so active anyway. I never could make sense of where his lynch came from, he didn't seem that suspicious to me. Maybe he said to his team 'lynch me, and then you will get the win'.

This is my last post today, and for the first time I really feel 4 are not enough. But I'm actually beginning to wonder if I've been looking at this whole thing backwards for a really long time.

I don't really know who to vote for now. I'm lost. Splints is something I'll follow you in on, but if I'm right and they threw MP under the bus, ti could even be DH or I don't know who.

Hedgey, I tell you what. I feel like we only have one shot at this and we can't use extra posts or the baddies can simply pile on, so... I will allow you to vote, I will follow you in to that vote, and I will hope badly that we have extended this game by a day and caught a baddie.

As Neverwhere and TB will know from having just played Narnia with me... its much easier to have a baddie team all vote the same way than get the civilians too. But I know I'm not bad, so I hope people will follow wherever hedges vote goes. Let's just hope it works out.

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Hmm, good point. I forgot about the are bad question you were the only one to answer. Looking over his list before he died though he was definitely narrowing on some correct suspicions based on who was killed and lynched, but maybe I just need to give him credit for good instincts sometimes. :p


MovingPictures07
5
TinyBubbles (3), Missing Person (4), DharmaHelper (6), Neverwhere (7), thellama73 (8)

I absolutely think MP could have been thrown under the bus by someone. We know it's not llama as the last voter. It makes no sense that it would be TinyDancer, MP2 was killed, so no go there. That leaves DH and Neverwhere, both who are still alive. I have never played with Neverwhere and dont know his baddie habits, but DH is a player who would deffo bus MP if he thought it was needed. I think we worry about the 3rd player if we make it through the next day and night though.

It's truly amazing that we are still so in the dark this far into the game, so props to the baddies. I am willing to take this leap of faith Golden, so here's hoping I see you on the flip side.

I vote Fingersplints

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by Hedgeowl
Sun May 31, 2015 8:53 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

Golden wrote:That's actually a pretty good case on splints.

Dunno where you get your case on me from at all, except perhaps that we both voted for you and it's just a no u. If splints is bad for seeing my civ game, then I suppose everyone else is too.

But you've given me pause for thought, at least....

But here is what I think happened... you guys can win if you just get ONE civilian lynch.

So, get civ cred by taking out splints, and then you look better.

TB, Neverwhere and DH all voted for MP. I don't think there is any evidence he was bussed. I know I'm not bad. So to my mind, the three baddies are splints, MM, hedge.

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There's not quite much of a case on you, but you were one of the non-MP voters, and with limited numbers as you've noticed it has to be someone. What I am stuck on and I think many of us are is whether llama was the role checker or not. He vouched for you too strongly to not be it would seem, but if so then either he hadn't checked my role yet and was messing with me or didn't care what impression he left. If he wasn't the role checker, then that leaves you as a baddie candidate, but I can't decide. I am definitely going to vote splints before you if I can get enough support there, but I am really curious now where MM and neverwhere will vote.

The baddies can win with one civ lynch this round and then kill tonight takes us out, so your vote is crucial. Also, if I am bad I don't need civ cred, the baddies win if they lynch a civ, end of game, so if we actually lynch someone bad today it gives us another day to maybe guess right, but might not.

This is the only scenario for a civ-win left:

Day 6: lynch bad
Night 6: civ killed
Day 7: lynch bad
Night 7: civ killed
Day 8: lynch bad - team dead 2 civs still alive.

Granted as the numbers dwindle hopefully it becomes clearer who is truly bad.

I plan to vote splints today, but if someone has a really compelling case against MM I'd listen.

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Golden wrote:Basically either we pick right or we lose...

It might be you all along, DH. I dunno. I'm paranoid, and ultimately this reminds me of Narnia - not enough to go on. Actually, I think the civilian chances in this game were essentially derailed by Ika, TH and (to a much lesser extent) Rico. It's frustrating, and something that honestly I just don't have a lot of respect for. It's almost like 'whats the point' if the game is just going to be lost by a bunch of civilians who don't even care. I'm incredibly disappointed by TH's lynch, for example. What was that even about :( it just makes it hard to feel like putting effort into the game as a player is worthwhile, and that's not cool for Epi who put together a clever game.

I don't know what more I can do. I guess I'll just vote hedge too, hope we are right, hope enough others vote that way. If not, I guess it's all over.

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I agree with your sentiments here and it's a shame. I didn't help by missing votes and not being more present, but trying to make up for it now that I have the time. I allowed myself to be an easy target with no one coming to my defense, because you're basically a team of one if not bad.
by Hedgeowl
Sun May 31, 2015 4:11 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 1]

fingersplints wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:My current and extremely minor suspicions so far are ika for the early vote, MovingPictures07 for not posting yet, and fingersplints for the quick NoU to Long Con. Golden also gets my eye for being far too commendable. :suspish:
It wasn't an actual no u as I did not take it as an actual suspicion. If Long Con is really suspicious of me then he can post why and I will address it. :shrug2:
I was reading splints posts to address her questions on me and now she reads clearly bad to me.
I think splints is one of the hiding baddies. LC suspects her and there was apparently some antics and teasing from a past game.
fingersplints wrote:
Roxy wrote:Ricochet - I was looking forward to playing with you and you seem to be playing around with this game. Why waste posts in a game where you only get 4 of them?
He isn't the only one wasting posts though:
Turnip Head wrote:Nobody's here.
I think at this point I am suspicious of anyone wasting posts. With only 4 posts allowed (without vote penalty)it doesn't seem in the towns best interest to throw them away.

I also don't find MM almost trying to go over the count helpful, but I don't know that it makes me suspicious. I just don't understand his motivation. It doesnt seem like it would be beneficial from a civvie or mafia perspective.
Long Con wrote:Missing Person has the right idea, my fingersplints thread-vote was pure saltiness because she rolechecked me and then murdered me in the Jesus Toast game we were both in. Fortunately, she overplayed her hand at that point and my Mafia cohorts dismembered her painfully. :feb: Her countervote on me comes as no surprise.
I don't think that is fair to say at this point as the game is not over and either side can still win. Helping your fellow civvies win isn't an overplayed hand IMO. :shrug2: but I'm not going to say anything else on this subject til that game is over. :srsnod:

I think this is Golden civvie game. I would say he seems like he is overreacting a bit considering he only has one vote, but I've seen him lynched for less many many times.
Here she is defending Golden as it is his civvie game and jumping on the
fingersplints wrote:
Roxy wrote:Ricochet - I was looking forward to playing with you and you seem to be playing around with this game. Why waste posts in a game where you only get 4 of them?
He isn't the only one wasting posts though:
Turnip Head wrote:Nobody's here.
I think at this point I am suspicious of anyone wasting posts. With only 4 posts allowed (without vote penalty)it doesn't seem in the towns best interest to throw them away.

I also don't find MM almost trying to go over the count helpful, but I don't know that it makes me suspicious. I just don't understand his motivation. It doesnt seem like it would be beneficial from a civvie or mafia perspective.
Long Con wrote:Missing Person has the right idea, my fingersplints thread-vote was pure saltiness because she rolechecked me and then murdered me in the Jesus Toast game we were both in. Fortunately, she overplayed her hand at that point and my Mafia cohorts dismembered her painfully. :feb: Her countervote on me comes as no surprise.
I don't think that is fair to say at this point as the game is not over and either side can still win. Helping your fellow civvies win isn't an overplayed hand IMO. :shrug2: but I'm not going to say anything else on this subject til that game is over. :srsnod:

I think this is Golden civvie game. I would say he seems like he is overreacting a bit considering he only has one vote, but I've seen him lynched for less many many times.
She's jumping on the suspicion of people wasting their posts, an easy thing for any baddie to do. Defends Goldens game as civvie, which always makes me wonder.
fingersplints wrote:RIP LC

Sorry I have been a bit quieter. I think I took on too much at once :(

I am not suspicious of TH's behavior still, but am understanding the points raised on hedgie. Things she has said like this seem a bit off to me.
Hedgeowl wrote:Apologies for the missed vote. I did not realize that nights could be shortened. Interesting to see the Rico lynch flip, and sad that his posts continued in that unhelpful manner despite his civness. As for Golden, I see more debate that has me appreciating his thoughts more, but I am really appreciating MP2. I am definitely going to miss reading the posts between him and LC. With all these new-to-me players I have no reads on their past, only their present, so I will just have to work from that and take everyone's opinions with a grain of salt.

I will say that the Nk targets are interesting. Someone is taking out the vets. I almost suspect Llama for his "omg my buddie died" schtick, but he and I have a horrible history of reading each other despite his HedgeBaddie nickname for me. But it makes me wonder who would be the ones to take out Roxy and LC? Roxy can read some people particularly well and I wonder who was so threatened by her.

I will need to reread some of the posts and reply tomorrow in more detail.

Night ya'll :offtobed:

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Here it felt like she was setting this up for future suspicions but not really naming a target. She almost suspects llama but not really. It's all so vague. Roxy and LC are both great players and I think they are a threat for most players.

More to come after dinner and fuck somehow I posted this mid post and got linki by my own post :suspish: :suspish: I hate phone posting sometimes :suspish:
Here she is not suspicious of TH, when before she was clearly suspicious of him and his useless posts. Now after I mention roxy and who she could read well that would be so threatened by her is where splints suddenly suspects me for being vague. If am wondering how well Roxy reads splints now. I should have paid more attention here clearly, but it still might not be too late.
fingersplints wrote:
Golden wrote:Well, it seems MP is going down like a sack of potatoes. That seems way too easy, I'm quite surprised to see 5 votes come in for him. I was a little wary of him, but I hadn't felt like I was seeing a lot of him looking VERY suspicious or that many people being very suspicious of him.

I'm going with one of my top two suspects, Hedgeowl.

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I'm worried that this is a civvie bandwagon too, but I do think the points on MP are valid. Posts like this :
MovingPictures07 wrote:Llama is Baddie McBadderson. :srsnod:

:llama: = :feb:
don't help him look any better to me. I think llama is a civvie, and it seems like he is just taunting rather then defending himself. I'm deciding between him and hedgeowl for today's vote. I've been a massive failure at voting this game so I want to vote relatively soon.

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In this post it is clearly too late to "save" her teamie MP, so she distances herself by stating that she's worried its a civvie bandwagon , but the points on him are valid. If she is deciding between me and llama or MP? Who is him in this post. She has defended llama as civvie already, so it might look strange if she votes there, so sticks to her vote for me and avoids voting Mp just in case. Her teammate golden sets up the civvie bandwagon idea starts with a vote for me to have an alternative and then she follows right along.
fingersplints wrote::rip: llama

my suspects also have stayed the same. Not really surprising given the lack of conversation in here. I didn't realize only 4 posts would be quite so difficult.
llama being killed could be to set hedgie up, but sometimes the mafia is just that obvious. With this many people suspecting her, it would make sense to take at least one of them out.
Here she reinforces the idea that llamas death was because My baddie teammates and I were "just that obvious" rather than the fact that llama got MP killed and they baddies didn't want him coming after the rest of them or a revenge kill.

I think splints and Golden are definitely the baddies we are looking for and I will be interested to see who comes to their defense as their third teammate.

I will be visited by three voters today trying to lynch me, let's see who they are and catch a baddie. :)
by Hedgeowl
Sun May 31, 2015 3:43 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]

DharmaHelper wrote::ponder: Expected the thread to be locked for the night, but DREAM just posted in dead red, so I guess its day? Nothing has changed my mind about Hedge and I've got DND to play, so voting for her.
:pout:

Do you seriously think If I were on a bad team I would kill Dream, who led me in votes? Unlike some people today :cloud9: who felt the need to post themselves to death, I actually try to win especially if I am responsible to other teammates. Notice how no one is arguing against my lynch either. There are 3 people interested in voting me Golden, DH, and splints I believe and 3 baddies left. Interesting, no? The argument that llama was killed because he called me HedgeBaddie is also ridiculous. He has been calling me that for countless games and we have known each other since we were kids. Almost every time we call each other out as bad we have been wrong, so we are horribly bad at reading each other yet suspect each other every game.

With 7 people left in this game and 3 baddies vs. 4 civs it is crucial that we lynch a baddie or game over.

I really don't know what to make of the MM vs TH insanity. Is it just antics or what? Honestly, it makes me less suspicious of MM.

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by Hedgeowl
Sun May 31, 2015 12:13 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 5]

I just voted for DREAM, which was not my intention today, but with 2 votes on me it was the safer choice. My choice would be MM or splint today based on their votes avoiding MP's lynch. (Yes, I fall into this category too, but if I were a baddie and voted as late as I did I would have voted MP, cause he was doomed already. I've done it before and so have many here.)

Splints, I don't understand your reasons for voting me this game. Could someone make a case at least?

And TH, what is up my man? Your posts are funny, but not building any cases. Get it the game. ;)
by Hedgeowl
Sat May 30, 2015 1:24 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 5]

Ah, sorry for missing the vote again? I am not on top of these changing polls times clearly and was out of cell range this morning. I would have voted Elo most likely so no credit there. Sorry to see you go Elo!

MM I will read through your cases more thoroughly, but I had been feeling pretty good about DH. I don't know how I feel exactly now that Elo flipped civ, but he is still not at the top of my list.

I am not surprised about MP2 either, it's like they are talking out the active talking civs, who might influence the game strongly.
by Hedgeowl
Fri May 29, 2015 8:54 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 3]

Elohcin wrote:Sorry I have been MIA all day. I literally have not been on the internet until now. Dr./dentist appts with kids today, working on a wedding cake, realizing I need more butter to make more frosting for the wedding cake, going shopping for butter and end up spending an hour at the store, etc. But, I am here now. And I have to say, I cannot believe I never actually voted in yesterday's poll. I said I would, I thought I did, but I was informed by my husband (after day was over) that I missed the vote. I was shocked. Anyway.....DH says this:
DharmaHelper wrote:My eye is firmly planted on Eloh for today's lynch, for simultaneously warning us that lynching non-contributors would be bad, and then voting for TH, a non-contributor.
First of all, I never said that we ought not lynch quiet players. I said that its not always wise to do so b/c oftentimes quiet players are civ that just don't care to play. It's annoying, but true. I know TH. TH is not a quiet player on the norm. I see a quiet TH as a baddie. SECOND, I never even vote :P HA.
Golden wrote:
I was reading Elo as civ for the first time ever :haha: . and then she didn't vote...
I think it was a technical error. I thought I voted.

So, for today. oddly enough, I read MovingPictures as civ this game which is weird b/c I usually think he is bad. I still think TH is probably bad and I am thinking llama is as well. I am voting llama today as not to spread the votes any further. And I am going to double check that my vote goes through.

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This last statement of yours Elo, doesnt read as well to me based on the lynch result. (Although I totally believe you on the vote mistake, cause been there done that in Epi's games before. :sigh: )
DharmaHelper wrote:Actually screw it, I'll explain my Eloh suspicion right now before I go back to watching Netflix:

I suspect Eloh for her cheap cop out suspicion of TH. TH, it seems clear to me, is not a threat to the civs at this or any point. But by continuing to vote for him, Eloh avoids having to come up with any real suspects.

I suspect Eloh based on how the MP lynch went. She broke from her TH vote in order to vote for Llama and bring MP closer to being saved.

And she was very subtly vouched for/defended by Hedge's "I think that the non-voters list contains mostly inactive civs rather than baddies" remarks. Hedge being another llama voter.
Not subtly vouched for at all. Based on Elo's own statement, whether you believe it or not, she thought she voted and she posted 4 times on Day 2 unlike the rest of non-voters. Puts her into the other category for me of active voters and back into the category of likely baddies. I'll revise my list for you.

Day 2 voters:
MP - baddie
MM
TH
Golden
Missing P - voted MP Day 3
Neverwhere - voted MP Day 3
DH - voted MP Day 3
Llama - dead
Elohcin - Upgraded, because she claims she tried to vote and posted 4 times.

No votes or posts on Day 2:

DREAM
fingersplints
Hedgeowl
TinyBubbles - voted MP Day 3

From the group of non- MP voters we have MM, TH, Golden (Day 2 voters) Elo, DREAM, splintsy, and me. I think it likely in the group that MM, Elo are baddies leaving possibly DREAM, splints, and maybe Golden as the last baddie.

Of the votes for me by Golden and splints, splints felt the most off so to speak, like throwing in the towel since MP was going down.

My suspect order would be this about now:
Elo
MM
Splints
DREAM
Golden
TH

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by Hedgeowl
Fri May 29, 2015 8:29 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 3]

Epignosis wrote:Who voted out Long Con?

Poll ended at Thu May 28, 2015 6:40 pm

DharmaHelper
0
No votes

DREAM
0
No votes

Elohcin
0
No votes

fingersplints
0
No votes

Golden
0
No votes

Hedgeowl
2
Golden (10), fingersplints (13)
14%

MetalMarsh89
0
No votes

Missing Person
1
DREAM (11)
7%

MovingPictures07
5
TinyBubbles (3), Missing Person (4), DharmaHelper (6), Neverwhere (7), thellama73 (8)
36%

Neverwhere
0
No votes

thellama73
4
MovingPictures07 (5), Metalmarsh89 (9), Elohcin (12), Hedgeowl (14)
29%

TinyBubbles
0
No votes

Turnip Head
0
No votes

Richard Pryor (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
2
Epignosis (1), Heiots (2)
14%


Total votes : 14
We are in better shape than I thought we would be at this point. 7-8 civs or 1 indy and 3 mafia gives one a little hope.

These are the people who didn't vote for MP:

Golden (10), fingersplints (13) DREAM (11) Metalmarsh89 (9), Elohcin (12), Hedgeowl (14)

While I think it possible that one of his teammates voted for him, it certainly wasn't llama. Therefore this group looks the most interesting to me for possible baddie suspects. Of this group, I think it most likely that Elo and MM are not the civviest. While I am in the group, I of course know my role and can eliminate myself, whereas the rest of you cant so much. Also TH missed the vote it looks like. Did I miss anyone else?

It seems like people particularly suspect Elo and I'd be willing to vote her or MM, but need to reread her first.
by Hedgeowl
Thu May 28, 2015 6:37 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 3]

Since apparently I am hanging here by myself at lynch time I'll just post again. What you all used your posts up already?? :pout:


Civilians:
1. Baylus Bramble
2. Calvin Chadwick
3. Bill Coley - ika Day 2
4. Vera Channel
5. Clyde Canada
6. Ann Monday
7. Lois Hester
8. Sam MacDonald
9. Wilbert Brown
10. Carlton Adams - Ricochet Day 1
11. Maude Salmon
12. E. Glen Holt
Role checks nightly.


Mafia
Has BTSC
Kills nightly
1. Donnie Cooks
2. Frances Adams
3. Allene Williams
4. John (The Drunken Neighbor)

Independent
Homegirl!
Wins if females outnumber the other men at the end.

Roxy nk'd on Night 1, LC on Night 2. They could be civs or possibly Homegirl, but I think civs currently. The indy role in this game seems to almost benefit more from laying low and letting the baddies kill off the men to get her closer to her goal. Either way definitely all 4 baddies left vs 8 or 9 civs with a possible side of Homegirl to make it more interesting. The odds are not looking good for us. This lynch will be crucial in the game I think. If MP is a baddie, civs can gain back some control hopefully, if he flips civ or indy than that may help figure out some baddies more clearly, but after the NK there will be only 6-7 civs vs 4 baddies possibly. I am not liking these odds currently for the fate of our civvie cause.

Linki - Hey DH is here! Well there are only 2 groups, so I had to be in one. :p Considering the lynch happened at 11am and the Night post went up 3 1/2 hours later, I'd say that's pretty strong evidence that there are some active baddies sending in their PMs. :nicenod:

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by Hedgeowl
Thu May 28, 2015 6:20 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 3]

Golden wrote:I'm not surprised to discover LC is good. He read that way to me. The paranoia in me goes 'was that kill DH, or to frame DH' - I feel sure it's one or the other.

I was reading Elo as civ for the first time ever :haha: . and then she didn't vote...

The thing that really stood out for me was how many missing votes there were on day 2. Really? These people voted (in this order)

ika
MP
MM
TH
Golden
Missing P
Neverwhere
Long Con
DH
Llama

That means no votes from:

DREAM
Elohcin
fingersplints
Hedgeowl
TinyBubbles

OK, thats less bad than I thought when I see it like that. But still, when someone is lynched with only 3 votes, 5 votes is a significant chunk. I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of these were people who felt absolutely no compelling reason to vote. And that, at least, is one reason to feel sort of ok about TH (since I would find it hard to categorise ika's lynch as a save). But, I mean, with four baddies the results are far too easy to manipulate with so many people missing. I don't expect me can catch baddies unless we are all voting!

Hmm, and interesting, DH makes a big case on elo and LC being teammates. Proving LC is civilian by NKing him might be a good way to take heat off elo, so perhaps she is bad.
Missing Person wrote:
Golden wrote:I still tend to think, though, that my 'filler' may have contributed to Missing Person linking me to LC, despite him wanting to claim the thing was useless. (Which is funny. Cos personally, I think that catching something going down like that is EXACTLY why that post is not useless.)
I'm not seeing how this links you to LC, care to fill me in? It was more like, "I think one of you two are scum, I don't see a plausible scenario where both of you are." I think I said exactly that in perhaps my 3rd post of Day 1?
Well, I don't think it does, but I thought you might have painted it that way on day one. But you didn't. It's sort of in the past now anyway, I'm feeling better about you now.

Also, I'm feeling pretty ok about Neverwhere right now.

I'm pretty anti these rainbow lists, but in a game with so few players and so few posts its a good way to get my thoughts across, so here goes. Lets call red 'top suspects', orange 'very wary', yellow 'I don't fully trust you', green 'I have no read', blue 'I trust you', (f**k indigo), and violet is golden, because I get to mess with the spectrum like that.

Look, it's an actual rainbow!

Elohcin
Hedgeowl

TH
MP
MM
Missing P

DREAM
splints
TinyBubbles

DH
Neverwhere
Llama

Golden

See you all in the morning, since now the poll closes after I wake :)

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The Day 2 voters I think are the group where we would have at least 3 baddies. Although today's lynch will be telling for sure.

MP
MM
TH
Golden
Missing P
Neverwhere
DH
Llama

That means no votes from: (I think it likely that in this group we will fine more inactive civs, but maybe 1 baddie.)

DREAM
Elohcin
fingersplints
Hedgeowl
TinyBubbles

I also disagree that people with no compelling reason to vote are more likely bad. Civs have way less motivation than baddies to vote. A team creates social expectation of participation, is more organized, etc. than single civs or indies with no organization and penalty for missing a vote. Also, who have we lynched so far? low hanging fruit of inactive unhelpful civs, perfect baddie targets. Just sayin' ;)
by Hedgeowl
Thu May 28, 2015 6:08 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 3]

Well I should have been wuicker about jumping on here it seems today. I do not agree with Golden's rainbow list for sure (although fun pretty colors!).

What I did notice from his post is the list of non-voters. Why did so many not vote? Well like me they may not have realized that nights could be shorter than 24 based on when the night actions were submitted and thought they had a 24 hour quiet period. (Lesson learned). There are some very active baddies in this game. Obviously not guaranteed a whole active team, but with 4 people bad, very easy to lead to lynch with lots on inactive or more quiet players.

I dont like votes like this one on MP at all, but yeah his llama post is pretty hilarious.

I am however voting llama, because between him and MP I think it more likely that llama is on the baddie team.
by Hedgeowl
Thu May 28, 2015 12:57 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 3]

Apologies for the missed vote. I did not realize that nights could be shortened. Interesting to see the Rico lynch flip, and sad that his posts continued in that unhelpful manner despite his civness. As for Golden, I see more debate that has me appreciating his thoughts more, but I am really appreciating MP2. I am definitely going to miss reading the posts between him and LC. With all these new-to-me players I have no reads on their past, only their present, so I will just have to work from that and take everyone's opinions with a grain of salt.

I will say that the Nk targets are interesting. Someone is taking out the vets. I almost suspect Llama for his "omg my buddie died" schtick, but he and I have a horrible history of reading each other despite his HedgeBaddie nickname for me. But it makes me wonder who would be the ones to take out Roxy and LC? Roxy can read some people particularly well and I wonder who was so threatened by her.

I will need to reread some of the posts and reply tomorrow in more detail.

Night ya'll :offtobed:

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by Hedgeowl
Mon May 25, 2015 11:21 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 1]

Missing Person wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Yay game!

Same question to every player: are you bad?

Also, is this a waste of 1/4 of my posts?

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No, and yes, respectively.
Long Con wrote:Are we allowed to hint at whether we are male or female roles?

Perhaps we could make votes changeable ourselves, by bolding a vote in the thread. This bold vote represents what our eventual vote will end up being. Like this:

Vote registered for fingersplints
Is that a salty vote? Sure looks that way.
ika wrote:Is it a bad idea that i jsut want to make post like these and not give any imput?

(yes this is my first legit post, my second/third might be more insigtful but expect nothign form last)
If you just want to make post like these, I just want you lynched.

I don't even believe that a bad civ would try to shitpost in a game like this.
Golden wrote:I don't support or encourage MM's theory of the game. Sure, you may well be able to use that strategy, but it doesn't seem in the spirit of the game, it seems sort of like an exploit. (Although it is completely an MM thing to do to let himself die for those purposes.)

More importantly, though, I have no proof that a mafia couldn't have some kind of lynch switch or lynch immunity, and I'm not inclined to trust 'racking up votes on myself' as a good strategy.

I really encourage those who haven't posted yet to start posting. I don't know what inspired me to do this - perhaps all the meta talk in economics mafia, perhaps it's just because with only 4 posts I have some psychotic need to feel like each one has a genuine purpose. But I thought I'd post a brief synopsis of how well I know each player and my perceptions of how loud or quiet they are when they have no posting restrictions. I'll grade my perception of their posting habits in 5 groups - low, low/moderate, moderate, moderate/high, and high. Also giving some idea of how well I feel I've got to grips with their style.

DharmaHelper - I've played with DH a decent handful of times and hosted him. I would say he is a moderate/high poster, who is willing to be analytical in the thread. I feel like I have a reasonable grip on his style.

DREAM - I've played with Dream a couple of time back on RM, but I don't recall a lot and never had much of a read on her. I'd call her low/moderate from my memory.

Elohcin - I've played with Elo a few times now on the Syndicate. I'd call her a moderate poster. I really haven't figured her out yet, not one bit. I have found that I tend to always think she is bad early on.

fingersplints - Few people that I've played more often with. I'd say splints is low/moderate posting. I feel I have a good grip on splints style, although that doesn't necessarily translate to good reads.

Golden - I can't recall a game I've played that he missed. Obviously, high high poster. Dunno how he will handle this game.

Hedgeowl - never played with Hedge

ika - never played with Ika

Long Con - I've played with this FEB plenty. I think he is the only one playing that I've had mafia btsc with. I'd call LC a moderate/high poster, but I think his posting level depends on his engagement in the game. I think LC is very good at making little adjustments depending on how the thread is going. LC is someone whose style I feel like I have a good grip on, but he is very good at appearing civilian when he is not.

MetalMarsh89 - I've only played with MM a few times. I already feel I understand his style completely. It's also already fairly clear that MM is a strong candidate for most likely to blow his 4 post limit. HIGH poster! I haven't seen MMs baddie game yet, but from what others say I'm anticipating it will be hard to distinguish.

Missing Person - never played with this MP. Apparently a high poster from what I read in sign up thread.

MovingPictures07 - played a reasonable amount with this MP. High poster. Looking forward to seeing if he can pull off an emotional outburst in four posts :D think I have a pretty good understanding of this MPs style and a decent read on him.

Neverwhere - played with Neverwhere once (her only other game). Moderate high poster. She was mafia last time, and went the whole game without being called out. I expect that she could be an FEB :feb: but obviously one game is not enough for a read.

Ricochet - never played with Rico. Watched him a little in... Death Note? Impression was he is a moderate poster.

Roxy - Along with splints, I've been playing with Roxy as long as I've been playing, and I've played with her a lot. I see Roxy as a low/moderate poster. I think I have a decent feel for Roxy's game, but as with splints that doesn't necessarily translate to good reads.

thellama73 - I've not played with the llama enough yet. Moderate/high poster, but no real read. I feel like you get a better grip on his alignment from his content and not his tone/style.

TinyBubbles - played with her in all the games she has played. Low poster. I feel like I've already gotten a decent grip on her style, but I don't know how that will translate to alignment yet.

Turnip Head - he is clearly off-meta in this game!!! :haha: the only game I've actually played with TH where I know his alignment was when we were both indys in keeler, and we spent a good bunch of time getting to know each other in chat, so I feel that we have both gotten to know each other well in terms of our style and how we think. It will be interesting to see how that translates to the thread and alignment over a long period of time.

linki - llama, it does surprise me that most people have ignored the question, tbh, and I do think it is notable.

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Appearing helpful without being helpful FMPOV.

Current reads:

Civ: Long Con, probably fingersplints

Scum: ika, llama, Golden.
I hate to quote this whole dang thing, but there it is. That is exactly my feeling about this post as well. Basically a long, but actually useless post. I learned more from Ricochet about French than I did about Mafia in Golden's post. :doh: It makes me all the more curious. I am sadly at work tomorrow during vote time and can't check-in, so voting now is my best bet since mornings are crazayzee here and not guaranteed I will have to time to check-in.

I'm going to vote Golden.
by Hedgeowl
Mon May 25, 2015 11:13 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Omertà Mafia [Day 6]
Replies: 346
Views: 11782

Re: Omertà Mafia [Day 1]

Llama - I am not bad and hello to you dear friend!
Ricochet wrote:omelette au fromage
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Golden wrote: Ricochet wrote:
omelette au fromage

You get four posts, and you waste one on a cheese omelette?


DharmaHelper wrote:
I have a few ideas and strategies in order to try and catch mafia, so we'll see how that plays out. For now, I'll be carefully watching to see who is posting the least valuable information and go from there.


I have none, but I have count cheese omelette amongst the least valuable information.
I actually found this post to be quite useful in correcting my French (about 10 words). However, not relevant to the game I suppose. :noble:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Golden wrote:I really encourage those who haven't posted yet to start posting. I don't know what inspired me to do this - perhaps all the meta talk in economics mafia, perhaps it's just because with only 4 posts I have some psychotic need to feel like each one has a genuine purpose. But I thought I'd post a brief synopsis of how well I know each player and my perceptions of how loud or quiet they are when they have no posting restrictions. I'll grade my perception of their posting habits in 5 groups - low, low/moderate, moderate, moderate/high, and high. Also giving some idea of how well I feel I've got to grips with their style.
I think this idea in general is a good one, and hopefully some people will come in and post similarly. It doesn't even have to be meta, it could be something as simple as a brief observation this game. I would not be surprised if some players are waiting to post after they see some other players post so they can have something to talk about, and I think that is unfair to the rest of the players to use that strategy. I could see the thread being steered by the late posters. I am getting my thoughts into the thread early, because I think it's bad to allow for late action to happen like that, because it is easily and often orchestrated by the baddies.
This is my favorite thing I have read so far! So are you suggesting we all post at the same time, to avoid people waiting to post based on what other people say? (What I am doing right now apparently!) ;) It looks like maybe you just mean we shouldn't all wait to post at the end and let baddies control the vote towards the end, but I imagine, there will be more votes without an explanation post in this game due to us all running out of posts.

Sir Host - Do we need to post our vote explanation if out of posts or is that just forum etiquette?
ika wrote:if you must know i think that longcon is the neutral.
Longcon are you neutral? :ponder:

Elo - I have been working in a nursery class with 3 year olds as of this winter. Someone needed to cut back on hours suddenly, so worked out for me!

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