The Syndicate

I'm going to pull the trigger so as to not spread the vote anymore and just go ahead and do it. I feel the case on Llama is more fact-based than the one on BDH, which is Hunch-based.

I must temporarily defect from Animal Sanctuary Squad and vote for Drama Llama.

EBWOP: Here is the post I was talking about, Bea, where I mentioned my beginnings of a BDH ping.

NOT: Here is the post I was talking about Bea, where I mentioned my beginnings of a BDH ping. (which makes it look like I was posting a quote about Bea instead of for Bea).

Mongoose wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Also, FH DP
I wish you'd come around more often little prickly dude
I KNOW RIGHT? I was beginning to believe him until he came off suuuper defensive about my mild comments about the mofo grace period. Red flag, red flag.

Here is the post I was talking about Bea, where I mentioned my beginnings of a BDH ping.

HOWEVER, in retrospect, it's obvious that Devin was referencing DP as being literally prickly like a porcupine. I did not read properly and assumed he meant BDH's defensive report (which happened right around the same time).

Yet my response "to Dev" still accurately depicted my feelings.

thellama73 wrote:
I have not done a complete reread of the thread, and to be honest I probably will not do so. My strategy going forward is to do specific rereads of people I find suspicious, or who others find suspicious. That being said, for now I think might be seeing baddie Rob this game and I feel like BDH has not been adding much (pot. kettle. black. I know.) so I have my eye on him.

I intend to make a well researched, well-informed vote tomorrow, provided I survive the night.

This is the post I was referencing. Emphasis added by me.

Why would he not survive the night? He's not been participating as much as normal (for which I argued he should get temporary clemency) but he's not out there digging up the big baddies (other than DH, who I refuse to believe is non-civ) or making his normal cases on people that would get him on their radar. Him being completely AWOL is not going to make them want to NK him over some of our more vocal players, of which there are many.

Why would he add that in? It really bothers me.

linki Bea - I will go and find the post I made where I mentioned my suspish. I think that's what you are asking for, right?

I think Llama is acting a bit rogue and I'm nearly inclined to vote there (especially after he said he'd do something or rather on Day 6, "if he was still alive." -- That's the kind of needless qualifier I think he'd jump all over me on (similar to what happened in BadgooseGate, the last speed mafia game we were in together, which has now wrapped)),

but (and that's a pretty big but) I am still squirrelly about BDH's prickly response to some conversations 2 days ago. I commented on it at the time, about how unsettled I felt. I am still favoring that for today.

bea wrote:It was insanity. I have to use LC's generator. It Uncertain Trigonometry lots of HannaK balloonery into the mix. I alms uncivilized though crundles his name there.

Ohhhh okay, that makes sense then. That's really funny his name would pop up like that. I wanted to make sure you were not comparing someone's playstyle to his or something similar.

My spouse is insisting we disconnect from tech tonight...to watch our library DVD pile! Ha.So I've gotta make my vote by 7pm EST.

bea wrote:plainclothesman lizzy - It could Yin much much saving. blowhole nincompoop suprised lactescence hasn't thelostlaurens really incredibility supersaturate. don't me in charge buddy!

Now consomme there is how I outward porringer!

Bea, I know you are super-insanified but did you mean to mention The Lost Laurens or was that just the insanitY?

Bullzeye wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Actually looking at the list of kills, it seems like either Kate or FH were big daddy.
If FH was Big Daddy, wouldn't she have known what number the PP picked and waited for someone else to vote at that number? Whenever we used it in Mario we paid very close attention to how many had voted.

That's a really good point because if I was in that position, even if I knew rezzes were coming, I don't think I would assume a 3-fer rez was coming.

thellama73 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 323#p51323

In what way is that exchange not "squashing discussion."
Because I wasn't telling anyone else what to talk about. I was just explaining my vote.

Do you think Zodac would be a fun role to play?

linki @ DH - I'm really nervous about some of the zombie'd players for sure.

Russtifinko wrote:
Defecate on a danish! THE CINNAMON CHALLENGE! We're doing it! But maybe we should wait until next time, so Devin can be there too....Speaking of which, bummer you're out for tonight, man. I'm looking forward to meeting the man behind the legend.

I literally laughed aloud.

I understand both sides, but just because S~V~S was frustrated before her untimely demise doesn't mean she will bring that back with her. It's been several days and the game landscape is a bit different now. I bet she would be lured here like a siren call even if she didn't want to come back; she might feel compelled to come back. Heh heh.

The Power of Sock compels you!

Why am I up this early.

linki - No worries! That would indeed be hard.

Please don't shoot the messenger

but I'm not sure you can vote for both DP and Lizzy since they are group 1 together.

Devin the Omniscient wrote: Son of a bitch, I knew I was forgetting about something this weekend!!! I will text you shortly

Is it finally time for the Cinnamon Challenge then, Dev?

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Also, FH DP
I wish you'd come around more often little prickly dude

I KNOW RIGHT? I was beginning to believe him until he came off suuuper defensive about my mild comments about the mofo grace period. Red flag, red flag.

I meant a host-imposed grace period, by the way. I feel like that's happened sometimes when players are rezzed, just like when they are replaced.

EBWOP: Grace, not grass period.

I don't think that would be ideal, no. Plus, there might be a grass period where we couldn't lynch him anyway, and who knows what kind of mischief he could manage in that short time period?

BigDamnHero wrote:Does anyone out there doubt the revealed identities of any of the lynched players?

Well crap on a croissant. I thought about that earlier in the game but failed to apply it here. Honestly, we don't know who Kate, FH, or SVS are, so I think picking any 3 out of them is as safe as we are going to get.

linki - Egip - Indeed. And why she tried to erroneously help out OK Computer.

Voted people who are/seem civ AND will show back up and participate.

thellama73 wrote:EBWOP: I see that DH is no longer with us

Whoa, good catch. I hadn't noticed his name had been omitted from the player list. A quick skim tells me that everyone else is on there. Can someone else corroborate this?

Devin the Omniscient wrote:But seriously, mongoose. Giving llama the BOTD was exactly what I was doing in that post
I'm letting it go for now while keeping an eye on him.

Oh I know you were! I just wanted to clarify why I said that when I was doing a morning skim of the chat. Not really for your sake, since it seemed like you were on board, but anyone else. Wooo

juliets wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:Oh, Elo is already covered, and DP has 2 votes. And I guess juliets is going to cover bea. Good job, guys.
Russti, I think you missed this up above. I was not the one who suggested covering bea every night. That was FH, so I think Mongoose said she'll let FH cover bea.

I think that was hedge(?) actually. I'm keeping an eye on that situation too.

Man I'm nervous about 5 and am now paranoid about how quickly Nev voted after me.

"Well, now some schmuck took 5, I can vote now."

I am going to be so perturbed if I get murdered by a freakin plant. Someone calm me down.

Addendum - It didn't come up in linki, but thanks for the explanation, Bullz! Didn't want you to think I was ignoring ya.

Nevinera wrote:
Even a little worse than that, though still nearly as dangerous -
the minion can only win if it has some way to beat the 1v1 at the end.
By that point, he'll be getting a vote every round, so no kills.

I don't think we'll reach that point though.

Oh nevermind. I see that this ^ is the reason we still need to put votes all around.

Russtifinko wrote:Sorry for more big posts. Just musing for now.

I also think it's weird the modkill last night didn't even to deflect to the person with the second most votes. Dom was on the poll, but got no votes. Unless MP has a beef with Dom (which I very much doubt), it got deflected to a random player on the poll.

I think we've caught a baddie BWT. Someone let me know if I'm getting tunnel vision on that though. However, if DP really is Zodac, he's probably an even bigger priority for now. And I think Elo and bea should be covered.

Exactly, I think cost-benefit analysis on that one is much more Pro. Meaning DP. I went through about 5 or 6 different theories yesterday (and I like yours above a lot too) and more of them are nefarious for DP than innocuous.

Since Bob is dead, is it still as important we spread out the vote? I sincerely want to know.

Boomslang wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Would that night poll count as an NK? The only thing that worries me is he could be:

• Trusty John - [Grimm's Fairy Tales] – Is always valiant and has the Kingdom's best interest at heart. The first time he is targeted for a NK, he will survive and there will be two days in a row. The second time he dies.
I guess we will see if there are two days in a row, which is the only real thing staying my hand at this point.
Wait, why would two days in a row be a bad thing? Presumably, days are what give civs the upper hand against all the night-killing baddies. Run this by me again.

It wouldn't be a bad thing for us in of itself because it would give us two shots at the lynch. The implications could be bad though if DP was this role, and we'd only know the day after today's lynch (so Day 5). But then I got straightened out by Nev, et al. I was going down the rabbit hole a little too much and couldn't see the forest for the trees (which is why I made that statement, if that makes sense).

5 feels lucky. If a Piranha Plant eats me, I guess it would be poetic justice.

Can't shake the DP squirrely feelings, and I don't think that's going to change by deadline.

Oh great, I'm making Bring it On references without even knowing it.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Hi Devin! Hi guys!

Yes, I am sorry for not being around much. I realize that I am not playing like a champion, but I expect my schedule to clear up by tomorrow and I hope to address some of your concerns. I saw the conversation you quoted, but I don't think I understand what you're getting at with it. I stand by my comments. I would be happy to address any concerns you have.
Hi llama! *waves*

There's not much else I can say here. Your different behavior and "odd responses" were the only things I could latch onto so far. I'm willing to chalk the different behavior up to a busy llama. As for the conversation, if you're standing by your comments still at this point, I guess we can just agree to disagree
I do disagree so much that I'm still a little pinged by what you said, but I will give you a chance for now

He could be bad, he could be good. I think he deserves the BOTD for a day or so, but I think those mannerisms are explained by busyness. He could be wreaking havoc backstage for all we know.

I just wanted to make sure he wasn't lynched for the wrong reasons. Since this is the Championships, and to be the best, you have to beat the best, and I want to do that fair and square.

I feel like I can't see the forest for the trees, so gonna back up for a spell and see if I get any hankerin's.

BigDamnHero wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Based upon this, he couldn't have evaded death by being Mycroft Holmes:

• Mycroft Holmes - [Sherlock] – Sherlock's brother, and high-ranking member of the British government. Can save someone from lynch three times, but not himself, and not the same player more than once.
Don't we already know that Lizzy was Mycroft ?

Urk. Of course.I've not made a player/role list this game yet and it's pretty obviously making me sloppy.

Juliets - I am looking into this matter and will get back to you.

Would that night poll count as an NK? The only thing that worries me is he could be:

• Trusty John - [Grimm's Fairy Tales] – Is always valiant and has the Kingdom's best interest at heart. The first time he is targeted for a NK, he will survive and there will be two days in a row. The second time he dies.

I guess we will see if there are two days in a row, which is the only real thing staying my hand at this point.

Based upon this, he couldn't have evaded death by being Mycroft Holmes:

• Mycroft Holmes - [Sherlock] – Sherlock's brother, and high-ranking member of the British government. Can save someone from lynch three times, but not himself, and not the same player more than once.

And it's unlikely he is the:

• King of Town - [Homestar Runner] - Has a smorgasbord buffet in his castle. He will choose one item to eat each night, giving him a one time use ability the following night, but he won't know what the item does before he eats it.

Because he wouldn't know that the Cupcake he ate would have switched the lynch, and that would be a pretty big coincidence.

I'm leaning toward a DP vote as well for all those reasons.

I'm looking through the roles to see which players he could be, based upon the switcharoo. Initially, I thought he might be Beggars Banquet, but that player is not allowed to use the switch on himself.

In sum, I think he could have been protected by Big Daddy. That would make sense, wouldn't it? DP has gotten a rep for not being very active lately, and if you were on a baddie team with him, wouldn't you want to protect him since you wouldn't know how much he'd be online?

Here is the description for Big Daddy:

• Big Daddy (Bouncer) - [Bioshock] – Is mentally conditioned to protect one of his teammates under any circumstances, guarding them from harm. At the very start of the game, the team selects the player to bond to Big Daddy (Bouncer). If any character attempts to nightkill Big Daddy's target, Bouncer absorbs the kill attempt. Bouncer is harder to kill than most living creatures due to its thick armored suit; as such, it has an automatic 50% chance of surviving NKs. Starting Night 2, Bouncer targets a player of its choice with its drill, which has an 85% chance of killing its target. After using its drill, the Bouncer must take two nights to recharge its energy before another brutal attack. If Big Daddy is busy protecting on the night he is supposed to kill, he skips the night, and tries the following night instead.

I think Big Daddy may have bounded to DP. Any thoughts? I would like some feedback before I vote.

Russtifinko wrote:
I'd love to hear from llama, too. He's been uncharacteristically silent.

He has been insanely busy IRL

Ahh Bullz, you really hit the...bullzeye on that remark. I got too wrapped up in the odd nights to remember that it would affect the even day's lynch.

Nevinera wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Hmm, okay. Piranha could always have been blocked or PM'd in that s/he was declining to use the power. Or the person is dead, D-E-D.
He could also have been picking numbers that get taken by non-players.
We have a few people trying to eat that kill, and we also have had missing votes - if he has been picking high numbers,
like 'number of players - 2' for example, nobody would get killed.
I don't think their team would be missing the pm - even if the player is not showing up, their team would be picking something for them.

Nev - Indeed, I think the PP PM was sent in, but last time the number chosen was eaten by a non-player (K4J, for instance), it was mentioned in the host post. Like you said and like I said, maybe I'm reading too much (or just erroneously) into the host post though. Good point about missing votes, though. Very good point indeed.

Hmm, okay. Piranha could always have been blocked or PM'd in that s/he was declining to use the power. Or the person is dead, D-E-D.

Russtifinko wrote:Also, is it weird to anyone else that MP stated so plainly that there was a minion? I hate to overanalyze night posts, and I believe the statement, I'd just have thought he'd leave us hanging.

I thought about that, but I just assumed he meant "if such a person exists, that person cannot win with his/her former win condition."

Did anyone else interpret it differently?

So there was no word about the Piranha Plant eating someone or a NP or deadie. And last night was an odd night, so a kill could have been made/attempted. That makes me think that the Piranha Plant player is a no-show.

@ Host - With some chronically low participation, I can guess what your answer will be, but can you confirm if there were missing PMs for Night 3?

Russti hoss, you have me in stitches. I say "Poop on a Pineapple" and "Crap on a Catapault" a lot IRL and Leslie Knope from Parks & Rec does similarly. Also, your suggestions were hilarous. I like to mix them up. I say "Poop on a Porcupine" IRL but not while on-site because I don't want it to sound like I'm impugning DP's hygiene.

Looks like Nev may have blocked something? Or intervened in some way. I'm a bit leery of reading too much into the post.

I love the thought of Vomps dressed as a ninja.

Dealing with the blowout of Dom's death (ya know I love ya, but glad to see your role gone, hoss!) is a bit tedious and I wasn't in Twin Peaks, so maybe older vets can shine some light on this.

Here is the role description en totale:

• Bob – [Twin Peaks] - Wow, Bob, Wow. On even nights, can possess someone. That person will join his team and they gain BTSC. Bob himself cannot kill, but his minions can, unless they are under suspicion. Bob's minions collectively can NK someone every night, unless they receive at least one vote. To win, Bob and his minions need to outnumber everyone else. Minions can still use their NP, and even have BTSC. If Bob is killed, only his minions remain.

So Bob is dead, but the minions can still use their night power, which is a NK (unless one of us voted them that day). And they still have BTSC. But no more recruitment. There's only been one even night, so Bob has one minion max (if he didn't get blocked, etc). Looks like it would be very hard to win with that recruitment win condition now that Bob has bit it.

Let me know if you see any fallacies with my logic above.

@ Host - Can that minion(s) still win with his/her original win condition?

Feces on funnel cake, that's a lot to process.

DP - what do you think about what's been occurring over the last few days? Got any pings?

Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Well DP it is then. i am curious if this is going to be a switch and we will all be punished instead, for throwing a fellow champion under the bus. Seems like this is waay to straight forward.
I cannot imagine this being anything less than a fatal punishment. In Bioshock, >SpaghettiEverywhere missed four votes. Does anyone remember >SpaghettiEverywhere Everywhere?

Was that the lynch poll with all options listed as Spaghetti Everywhere?

Epignosis wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Well DP it is then. i am curious if this is going to be a switch and we will all be punished instead, for throwing a fellow champion under the bus. Seems like this is waay to straight forward.
I cannot imagine this being anything less than a fatal punishment. In Bioshock, >SpaghettiEverywhere missed four votes. Does anyone remember >SpaghettiEverywhere Everywhere?

Was that the lynch poll with all options listed as Spaghetti Everywhere?

BWT - What do you think of Llama's suspicion (and resulting vote) of DH?

Devin the Omniscient wrote: Did not see that coming!!! Great job on the Lizzy lynch guys!!!!

Ehh?? Mycroft is listed as a civ. Unless I've lost it like half the folks 'around here.

linki - YES exactly

Epignosis wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Easy peasy lemon squeezy -- went with DP.
I saw that too.

In the Loop, you mean, right? I've seen it 3, 4 times and religiously watch Veep.

Easy peasy lemon squeezy -- went with DP.

Never let anyone say that Sockface doesn't have a sense of humor.

Kate wrote: Sorry so short some srs shit just went down at my house.

I'm sorry to hear that

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