The Syndicate

Thanks, Dev, congrats to you too! You played a great game in Bioshock and deserved that win.

So that leaves the Dark king to be...Nev?

thellama73 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:So who were Mario & Luigi?

I was both of them.

Oh okay.

So who were Mario & Luigi?

I'd like to thank The Academy for my first win. Id like to apologize to all those I erroneously Goomba'd.

Who were you, Lizzy darling?

Bullzeye wrote:Roles haven't been revealed yet so I want to make a couple of guesses...

Mongoose - Grass King
SVS - Pipe King? (based on day zero stuff)
Roxy - Air King

Hedge - I knew our killing Nev had outed me to you, but I was hoping you'd think it was just a coincidence

I was indeed grass! I thought SVS was Pipe also from voting.

Bullzeye wrote:By the way, something I noticed a long time ago but didn't bring up for obvious reasons is that there were four confirmed civs for most of the game. When Snow got lynched instead of Lizzy despite having way less votes all the baddies were goombas (except Bowser obv.) which meant that everyone who voted for Snow had a vote that counted. Llama was giant king so his counted for 4 but his fellow voters were all civs and if I'd been a civ myself I'd have mentioned that.

I think Vomp was trying to insinuate this, but I think we were all very wary of too much role hinting after admonishments in other games. That's a really good observation, Bullz.

LT played a great game until the very end. That was very sweet of you!

I'm so sad BWT and hedge got so close and then didn't win. You are the best Runners Up ever.

Way to 1 Up just in time, Eloh!

Really great execution of concept, Epi. Thanks for hosting.

Thanks to S~V~S and Eloh for trusting me when my track record was a little shirty.

See you guys soon.

LT played a great game until the very end.

I'm so sad BWT and hedge got so close and then didn't win. You are the best Runners Up ever.

Way to 1 Up just in time, Eloh!

Really great execution of concept, Epi. Thanks for hosting.

Thanks to S~V~S and Eloh for trusting me when my track record was a little shirty.

See you guys soon.

If I got killed, it would be dead obvious who did it, so of course I wasn't killed. I know you a have much more baddie acumen than that.

I'm gonna go ahead and vote too.

Well, if this helps, I wouldn't have killed BWT if I was Bowser because I think he marginally trusted me more than you do and was leaning more to voting for LT if Bullz flipped baddie, which he did. So it wouldn't make sense for me to kill BWT as Bowser, but it makes a lot more sense for him to die with LT as Bowser.

Linki- YES ELO!

Oh jeez another man down. Well S~V~S, I guess it's your call.

I wish we had Roxy around to vote, but I hope she's okay. I'd have like to hear from her, but I think she is civ because she wouldn't be able to villain around if she's not here, right? I mean if she's not voting, she's probably not villaining.

LT has didn't vote for Russti or Bullz. Therefore, she has consistently been the only non-goomba. I really think she is Bowser, guys. That's just speculation, but not entirely without its merits at this point.

Well, don't we? If you were bad, there would be one less baddie at night.

I thought perhaps after my stellar voting record lately that I'd be vindicated and you'd both see I'm on Team Super Civ.

BWT, S~V~S, what are you thinking about for tomorrow?

I can't believe you got hedge. We shall avenge you!

Bullzeye wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Bullzeye has been lynched. He was the Piranha Plant. And he had a feathery last meal: Hedgeowl

No, you're a pirahna plant! Good game guys!

You played quite well, I'm serious. I was totally suspecting BWT over you until that Vomp vote. All three of you dead baddies did a rather superlative job of keeping mum.

Elohcin wrote:I'm tired of being dead

Yeah, I hoped at least one of you would be able to come back by now

Thanks for voting, NPs and Deadies!

hedgeowl wrote:
Mongoose - I was so intent on posting, I just kept hitting submit, before it got erased again.

That's been happening a lot to me too lately. I've been actually copying and pasting my posts before pressing 'Submit' because I've lost some sagas that way.

Man, sorry guys. I'm not getting linkis at all today.

Hedgeowl wrote:
I hope they didn't pick 1 as the number to kill today!

I hope so too, although they might have since I've been voting first lately. Even if I get piranha'd, I know you and SVS and BWT can steer this airship home.

Hedge - did you see my LT quotes that posted right before your analysis?

Has anyone played Mario since we began this game? If so, did our game color your perceptions of the Mario video game? I wonder if it will take on a whole level of meaning to us now.

LittleTiger wrote:Well, Mongoose, your posts really make you seem baddie throughout the game. The fact that Vomps seemed to be on your side is really not a convincing defense, tbh.
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Of course you would say that, considering you were glad Vomps, who was revealed to be the Ice King, was dead:

LittleTiger wrote:So glad I can finally talk again! Really not nice to be frozen so I am actually happy that the evil Ice King has met his demise! We are all that much safer...

Does anyone else find her statements RE: Vompers' death particularly damning?

I voted Bullz. I don't see how he can flip Civ after that weird Vomp vote. It's pretty obvious Bullz is trying to see how many of you he can get to vote for me, a civ, when we've had such a good track record of discovering baddies lately. Baddies had to show their hand when they voted for Vomps. Vomps was one of the few people who trusted I was CIv -- if I was a real baddie, why would I let him be lynched over someone who is on the fence at me?

I'm not sure LT's vote for me was totally throwaway. She's come after me pretty hard lately, so I'm guessing she thought she could convince a few of you to vote for her. I don't think she was a goomba that day. If she geared up with some fire flowers, was Bowser, and convinced a civ or two to follow her lead, I could have been dead.

We're already a civ man down with Roxy not voting and not being replaced, so honestly, you need me on the civ team. We're so close, let's stay the course.

* Votes Bullz*

Hey, does anyone know what's happened to Roxy? It looks like she's missed the last 3 votes or so. Does anyone know if she's okay?

Considering I wasn't allowed to speak for all of Day 9, obviously I'm not bad AND the baddies think I was on the right track. Vompers was clearly civ. I was completely taken aback by the Russti reveal, but a little less so by Bullz. But his Vomps vote seems overwhelmingly telling.

And the idea that LT and I are baddie buddies is frankly proposterous. She's been on my radar since very early game. It's being reframed that me pursuing her as a baddie is retaliatory, but if you go back far enough, you'll see it isn't. I caught a whiff of something early on and have been letting me take the heat OR painting me as untrustworthy since then.

Ai think LT is more likely to be Bowser based upon recent voting, so that leaves Bullz as a goomba, so I am all in for a Bullz vote as well. I don't see how Bullz can't be bad after his Vomp vote.

Ai think LT is more likely to be Bowser based upon recent voting, so that leaves Bullz as a goomba, so I am all in for a Bullz vote as well.

Vompatti wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Vompatti wrote:decent stuff is very expensive in fialnld :*(

you should smuggle some to finlanld if you ever come to finlalnnldl k

that kinda goes without saying k

I pictured you two living on the same side of the street, just with a couple of houses inbetween you or so.

Bullzeye wrote:It's not a Gambit, just my best guess.

Just when I thought I was getting the lingo down.

The Grass King definitely did not do that to Hedge. If the Pipe King mistrusted the Grass King, s/he could have redirected the Grass King's actions. There are a lot of possibilities for what happened last night, but I don't think any of the other Civs are going to buy the "Mongoose as Bowser" Gambit. I've spent this entire game wishing I had BTSC with just one other person.

Linki - Well FL is definitely nuts as all y'all know. Every time I see a damning headline about something crazy happening, I'm like "Please oh please don't let that be Florida. 95% it is. That said, it's a wonderful place to visit, so let me know if any of you are ever down here.

EBWOP: I mean 'there' not 'their'

Please do not mod kill me, Epi.

Vompers -- In case you get killed - say lots of things! Is their wisdom you want to impart to help us win the game?

Hedgeowl wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Mongoose wrote:I am really confused by a Vomp vote. I was not expecting that. Are there other reasons besides what you've written above that are making you vote for him today?

Well out of you and your teammates he was the first I thought might be bad. Really I might have voted for any of you though.

Hedgeowl wrote:Well Vomps, it looks like you are the target today. Sorry if we lose you like this. My vote has been taken away, so I am no help. Mongoose, I can think of a really good reason they would vote Vomps.

The only way we can possibly save you is if SVS votes LT too, everyone buys a fireflower and Vomps buys a mushroom. Then the vote may be tied, but we dont know what king powers, etc are in play for others. If LT is bad and the cheep cheep role, then she already -2 votes and it wont help.

Might be worth a shot, but we still might be able to pull this off in the next lynch if all four civs alive vote the same.

As if LT won't die today I bet she's already got more votes than there are civvies left alive. I take it you got goomba'd Hedge? Looks like at least one other person knows what's up.

Vompatti wrote:ture

I guess this confirms that Bullz and Russ are bad.

Come on, you guys can pretty much drop the act now I think. You've all been leading the thread for a while now, buddying up to each other and following each other's 'suspicions'. You've pretty much won the game anyway and you did a good job of it but I'm not going to give up so easily. Hopefully I'm not the only one to have noticed the little group of Hedge-Mongoose-Vomp who've clearly been running this game for days and leading people to lynch a bunch of civvies. Honestly though, I wasn't expecting Russ to follow me. Maybe I'm wrong about one of you and he's your well-distanced teammate.

I could respond to this, but we will know the answer when the poll ends this morning.

Ballsy statements there Bullz. I guess we dont have a smiley for that cause it might be a little vulgar. on a side note, do people see truck balls where they live? They have made laugh so hard and yet be mildly horrified at the same time.

Those have actually been outlawed in Florida. Because obviously the biggest problems Floriduh has involve truckside wieners.

EBWOP: I mean S~V~S not SVS, sorry that I keep doing that!

If we got Bowser, we could still pull this off, right Civs? She wouldn't have 4x the voting power OR start with a -2 lynch vote, so that's one way I can see us pulling this off.

Bullzeye wrote:

Mongoose wrote:I am really confused by a Vomp vote. I was not expecting that. Are there other reasons besides what you've written above that are making you vote for him today?

Well out of you and your teammates he was the first I thought might be bad. Really I might have voted for any of you though.

Hedgeowl wrote:Well Vomps, it looks like you are the target today. Sorry if we lose you like this. My vote has been taken away, so I am no help. Mongoose, I can think of a really good reason they would vote Vomps.

The only way we can possibly save you is if SVS votes LT too, everyone buys a fireflower and Vomps buys a mushroom. Then the vote may be tied, but we dont know what king powers, etc are in play for others. If LT is bad and the cheep cheep role, then she already -2 votes and it wont help.

Might be worth a shot, but we still might be able to pull this off in the next lynch if all four civs alive vote the same.

As if LT won't die today I bet she's already got more votes than there are civvies left alive. I take it you got goomba'd Hedge? Looks like at least one other person knows what's up.

Vompatti wrote:ture

I guess this confirms that Bullz and Russ are bad.

Come on, you guys can pretty much drop the act now I think. You've all been leading the thread for a while now, buddying up to each other and following each other's 'suspicions'. You've pretty much won the game anyway and you did a good job of it but I'm not going to give up so easily. Hopefully I'm not the only one to have noticed the little group of Hedge-Mongoose-Vomp who've clearly been running this game for days and leading people to lynch a bunch of civvies. Honestly though, I wasn't expecting Russ to follow me. Maybe I'm wrong about one of you and he's your well-distanced teammate.

But see, we haven't lynched a bunch of civvies. Luckily every time I've voted for a civ (with the exception of Gleam), the vote has tied and Roxy and SVS were luckily not lynched.

I didn't think you guys would have to show your hand so quickly, but I think you have a pretty good idea of our roles and how to make us as useless as possible.

Civs: Try to say what you need to during Night 8, because Blooper is going to silence one of us for the next day.

Snowy, can you make like a baguette and please rise?

And Lizzy, what's your story, morning glory: might you be back soon?

Llama llama JUMP back into the game.

Hedgeowl wrote:Well Vomps, it looks like you are the target today. Sorry if we lose you like this. My vote has been taken away, so I am no help. Mongoose, I can think of a really good reason they would vote Vomps.

Me too. I was really surprised by Russti, but I think we've all been surprised a lot this game. Hedge, are you able to say anything about how your vote was taken away?

I am really confused by a Vomp vote. I was not expecting that. Are there other reasons besides what you've written above that are making you vote for him today?

Bullzeye wrote:It's interesting how willing you all seem to be to jump onto a blatant bandwagon without even giving someone a chance to defend themselves. I just thought it'd be me today.

Well in fairness, we did give her a chance to defend herself. It's not like we all voted out of nowhere, we started discussing this over 24 hours ago for goodness sake. She did defend herself and I've taken that into account.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
I'm willing to go along with an LT vote today. If she comes up baddie, you're probably off the hook for now. However, if she comes up civvie, Mongoose, then you're definitely getting my vote on Day 9.

Votes LT

That's more than fair, BWT.

Out of candor, I'm going to go ahead and vote. No need to prolong it, and I'm certain I won't be up tomorrow before poll closes (working really weird hours this week).

* Votes LT *

Russtifinko wrote:
So just so I'm 200% clear, who are we looking to get tomorrow? I'd be better able to voice my agreement or lack thereof if I knew.

Russti - we discussed LT a bit here: http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 050#p29631

I'd rather get some agreement before I vote though. I know a lot of us are anxious about a) splitting the vote and b) further reducing the civ pop with an erroneous vote.