The Syndicate

Why can no one ever read me?

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Spacedaisy wrote:He's on his way back now

Did he make it to Tally?

What I don't understand is that I was called out for trying to waste a lynch opportunity when I explicitly stated that I was leery of doing so and checked with you all to see if it was really wise.

I can't believe you all think I hate my cat.

bea wrote:I'm sorry goosey. maybe the baddies tipped their hand? I'm sorry I had a second of doubt. Peeps seemed to jump all over it as a reason to vote.

It's okay. I think there may be more baddies left than we reckoned. But who I think Zodac was voted for me too, and I've been reading him as civ-friendly, so I think a lot of people bought it.

Aww guys

I am not, which is why I brought it up because of that concern. I feel that is a bit word-twisty of you to even say that when my last post is clearly showing wariness of wasting another day.

I even swore on my cat that I'm good.if you are truly good, and not Martell, help me look elsewhere. If not Boom, who?

So does everyone think it's worth possibly "wasting" a day voting to lynch Boom?

I"m okay with voting Boom. Because if he survived because he's McGuyver, it means Penny is still alive and the lynch won't occur, so it's not like we will lynch a civ for information.

Hedgiebabe- I swear on the life of my fluffy diabetic cat that I'm not bad.

timmer wrote:
If Zodac picks Mongoose and he is bad, I would then be concerned about you, Bea,and so I would have to think that Elohcin and you looked bad, but also SD/FH could as well, this one is very iffy to read.
If Zodac picks Mongoose and he is good, I would stop feeling any concern about you, and would lean more towards SD/FH again.

Common misconceptions about Mongoose:

* That I'm a dude

* That I'm often bad when I'm not

Hedgeowl wrote: Something clicked for me and I now understand why you placed trust in Mongoose, Bea. Also, if you are right, she will not be lynched. That will change the next lynch cycle for me a lot I think, so will be interested to see how this night goes.
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There's absolutely nothing protecting me from a lynch, unfortunately. I know it must seem that I act nonsensically to you all at times, but when has that ever been an indicator of my alignment?

Lizzy wrote:
2. Goosey - I'm just so baffled by her actions, I have no idea what to say. People might have missed this. What her insanified post says is that in Shawshank Llama accused her of having slipped here. I didn't pay too much attention to that at the time, but ended up voting for her after she built a very bad case against me. Of course, she was bad. My bringing up DH's post was to demonstrate how hard he is trying to convince us that there is no way he has teammates to tell him what Thomas' role implies, so he alone had to go to the first page and check. If I understood correctly, I may have been right about DH. So Goosey points that out, and what does she do some hours later? The exact same thing. Goes to the first page to check what role I am, despite if being common knowledge by now. Let's say she really didn't know. Why does she have to post that to let us know she's clueless and has no team mates to tell her? Then we all know the discussion when Vomps first survived. And now what does she do? Says she'll wait until everyone has voted to see if she has to save herself, yet votes for Boom when there were still 6 people left to vote saying, 'oh well, looks I won't have to save myself'. WUT After reading her reply after I voted for her, I felt incredibly guilty about it and started to have second thoughts. Well done there!

Lizzy - I did that because I saw that she was still online and wanted her to wait while I looked it up and answered the question. I had totally forgot you had died and been brought back. This game has been going on for over a month, so not every aspect is going to be at the forefront of my mind. I'm a civ team of 1.

bea wrote:life is beautiful is amazing. When it was first released, I had to search 3 counties to find a copy of it in the original Italian. I see it's on amazon prime now - but I'm skeered to re-watch it. If it's not in Italian, it's not right.

You mean it was... dubbed? Oh my.

Zodac, if you like being sad, you should choose me.

But perhaps you like being sad. Following is a list of sad films you could watch instead of being sad when you find out I was good.

* Life is Beautiful
* The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
* Water
* Lovers of the Arctic Circle
* No Man's Land
* Dr. Zhivago
* Farewell to Arms
* Beaches
* Terms of Endearment
* Steel Magnolias
* My Girl
* The Ice Storm
* Dear Zachary
* Amistad
* Rosewood
* Schindler's List
* Lemon Tree
* Dancer in the Dark
* Amour
* Away From Her
* Take This Waltz
* The Passion of Joan of Arc
* Hotel Rwanda
* Brokeback Mountain
* Ole Yeller
* The Way We Were
* The Umbrellas of Cherboug
* Grave of the Fireflies
* Basically any film that takes place during the Holocaust

Nevinera wrote:Day 11 has the title "another one for Zodac"

Doh. Well thanks for replying to me. I was wondering if I was dead since no one seemed to be interacting with me directly. I was feeling a bit like Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense.

Are we sure it's not her role mechanic that caused no lynch? That's what I assumed at first until someone mentioned Zodac.

I'm going to try to be proactive instead of defeatist (since several of you are circling me with various sharp implements) and convince you I'm not bad at all.

But maybe not tonight. That was exhausting.

Wut. Okay I was not expecting that.

I get her frustration because she can't help what he does or not. She has seemed extra busy lately, so I get why she's seemed more quiet. Plus, not everyone tends to talk nonstop like me (although I can't imagine why).

And her reaction makes me SUPER glad I didn't vote her. I can't imagine her having that reaction if she was bad. She said that when 4 people had already voted her.

EbWoP: Conscience not conscious.

bea wrote:why boom over elo goosey?

Fair question!

a) I'm not really feeling it. I can see the argument I guess, but yesterday when I made my list, Eloh was on the "Seems Ok" area and nothing really has changed.

b) I don't need to vote to save myself, so I am voting where my conscious lies.

c) I guess I just believe her. She seems really sincere.

I'm going to vote Boomslang.

I'm here if anyone wants to ask me anything! Or to laugh at my jokes.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
And for Mongoose, I don't buy the part about the timing of her votes being dumb luck. But on the other hand, I can see her going along with other players she trusts (I've done that a lot in the past and I've tried really hard the last few games to stop doing that and going with my own ideas). My problem with that though is that 2 of the 3 people she claims to have trusted (DH and Epig) are 2 I do not feel good about anymore.
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Ahem. Not dumb luck, just shrewd mongoose whipperwillery.

Also, yeah, I trusted Epi at first. I mean very early on. I got a big ole whiff of that baddie brew early on though and then governed myself accordingly.

Not sure about DH, but that's irrelevant now too. Although I never did feel too icky about him, as I said earlier.

Well, there's only 2 votes cast, so maybe I won't have to vote to protect myself. If I don't, I feel that out of my mild pings, Boomslang is the only one who is approaching tepid levels of heat. Therefore, barring any sudden revelations, I'll consider that. Further, S~V~S seeming to hone in on him too was somewhat corroborative for me since she is El Primo Baddie Hunter. Gonna wait and see what else develops though, to be honest.

Also, for the record:

Mongoose wrote:Hi Guys!

Lizzy - Unfortunately I didn't intend for it to be an indie hunt, I swears. It just kinda happened that way. I did suss out (in addition to several others who did the same) the Vompire baddy switch.

Lizzy wrote:I'd feel comfortable with a Goosey or SD vote right now. I'm inclined to focus on them because of the Kate vote.

Since Goosey was already a suspect, and because she voted for Kate, I'm going with her today.

You'll be sad

That Kate thing was early in the game.I can't believe that is the biggest charge in the case against me.

Hey, you (or anyone actually) didn't respond to my wall of text from earlier. We are probably near half civ half other at this point, so that doesn't make me feel good. Y'all just all know I've tried to help civs when the opportunities arose.

bea - Thanks, lady!

Hi Guys!

Lizzy - Unfortunately I didn't intend for it to be an indie hunt, I swears. It just kinda happened that way. I did suss out (in addition to several others who did the same) the Vompire baddy switch. Then I also abstained from voting BWT because I was leaning heavily civ on him, which is why I voted Juliets, even though my pings on her were mild (comparable to how I feel about my mild pings currently).

Of course, in hindsight, I would have sunk my vote for FH rather than Kate. It was pure speculation and feelings at that point. Whomever it was that first ferreted out who it looks like she is was very astute. I am still very impressed by that one.

In RE: Piranha Plant. I was literally so paranoid that entire time it would eat me. I was also terrified during Mario. There were actually a lot of other times I was feeling super edgy about it and didn't post my feelings, so I can imagine how you'd be feeling know if I had! Honestly, it's just one of those things that I feel is Just My Luck. Like getting to the faculty Valentine's Day party right as the last lemon cupcake was being snarfed.

It's one thing to be errantly lynched and then there's a bit of dignity in being NK'd, but dying by plant is possibly the most ignoble way to go (looking forward to your Lil Shop of Horrors, sug!)

In RE: timing of votes. I was super paranoid and voting very strategically based upon which numbers I thought would be not likely picked. It makes me feel good that you guys think my voting record/suspish history is of such a nature that I'm 'informed' but I'm not - but some of it is luck too.

In RE: Voting the Same as Epi. I do this occasionally. It gets me in trouble on Rev more than here for whatever reason. I tend to follow an analytical um more vocal player when I'm on the fence. If I'm already suspicious about a person and one of these very analytical players votes for them, I feel validated in my suspicions and will then go ahead and vote them. Similarly, this happens when I have several suspicions but then I am dubious that maybe my main suspect will get the axe, so I try to lump together in order to try to avoid spreading the vote out. These players, by the way, are DH, SVS, and Epi.Maybe I should become more confident in my game, but remember I am still relatively new to this tomfoolery. I like Lizzy's logic a lot and that's been hard this game since I trust her and her judgment but she suspects DH heartily, who I do not.

Sometimes I feel I am too soft for this game because I feel soooo bad when I'm a part of lynching a civilian. Seriously, I could probably list every civilian I've errantly lynched. Isn't that ridiculous?

Anyway, this is long, so I will wrap this up like a burrito but I will scan to see if I missed anything else you asked me.

Lizzy wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
Lizzy wrote:I accidentally a word. But you get the idea. Thanks! ^__^
Oh hey, I forgot to say that I dreamed me and you were in a wasabi-eating contest last night.
Brilliant! Who won?

I think neither of us did. If you know what I mean.

timmer wrote:Boomslang, the Nevin thing is a bit subtle, but the host has essentially proven bwt is Meat Boy. Saying bwt isn't cleared just means you aren't paying attention.

Haha, yes, thanks Timmer. That's another reason I wondered if he was being saracastic/joking.

^ Is that sarcastic? The orange is throwing me off.

I ain't votin' honeybea either.

linki - Oh silly me, I don't know how I even did that.I'm too upset about/for Shaun White I guess.

Timmer - is the certain role you think bea is -- is it baddie or cindie or indie?

Nevinera wrote:I'm afraid I didn't bring enough for the whole class.
But I think we are doing really well -
All I meant was that I had a similar list to yours it sounds like.
I was a bit surprised to see all of my top picks for badness die in one day.

Ahhh perfect, thanks for the elucidation.
SVS, that sounds marvelous.

S~V~S wrote:
Nevinera wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Yup! I am abstaining from voting for the same people.

If I had to pick someone on that list (and obviously I do in the next 24 hours), I'd say Boomslang? It's Day 11 and I feel he's been chronically UTR. Is he usually a low poster? I get his methodology mixed up with Bullzeye, honestly, which is silly since they are from two different countries.

linki - Nev - I am not following you - a civ-friendly indie? A very astute civ ninja?
I'm not sure what you're asking about.
I was kinda "?" about that as well, I think she means was referring to this post:

Nevinera wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Anyone that I was even mildly suspicious of is now dead. I don't even know where to begin.
I think there might be a good reason for that.
Holy damn.
if not, i am lost, lol~

Yeah! I was wondering what you think the good reason for that is, that's all.

S~V~S wrote:What is your opinion on these people:

Boomslang, DFaraday, Elohcin, Flyin' High, Hedgeowl, Spacedaisy, Timmer

For me it's blendy, blendy, blendy, dunno, dunno, blendy until today, gives me the willies, but people I trust say i am mistaken.

Boomslang, DFaraday, Elohcin, Flyin' High, Hedgeowl, Spacedaisy, Timmer

Mild Ping, Even Milder Ping, Seems Ok, Seems Ok, Seems Ok, Seems Ok, Milder Ping

Yup! I am abstaining from voting for the same people.

If I had to pick someone on that list (and obviously I do in the next 24 hours), I'd say Boomslang? It's Day 11 and I feel he's been chronically UTR. Is he usually a low poster? I get his methodology mixed up with Bullzeye, honestly, which is silly since they are from two different countries.

linki - Nev - I am not following you - a civ-friendly indie? A very astute civ ninja?

Anyone that I was even mildly suspicious of is now dead. I don't even know where to begin.

Lizzy wrote:I accidentally a word. But you get the idea. Thanks! ^__^

Oh hey, I forgot to say that I dreamed me and you were in a wasabi-eating contest last night.

Do you mean my hints? And I think timmer's?

I don't think I stated this clearly above, but I definitely feel pretty good about Lizzy. I was making arguments both ways, but like I said, I feel pretty good about her unless something super persuasive comes along.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Day 7 Event: Create Your Own Adventure!

"Oh, and in addition to some duct tape, take this too." It threw pads of paper and pens at all of the champions. They looked confused.

"Use it however you wish. That said, if you write a story, a very compelling, creative MacGyver-esque story, starring yourself as the lead character and perhaps some of your fellow champions in whatever roles you see fit, you may find yourself walking out of this place with a prize!"

"This is not a trick prize either! It's actually pretty neat!"

The champions were intrigued. Pens started clicking and hands started writing. For good reason.

It is still Day 7.

If you want a prize, PM your host with your story by the end of the day period.

Dead and living players can participate in this contest!!

juliets wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Sorry to see you go! I really enjoyed finally getting to meet you!

linki timmer - I don't think she brought herself back. That was something else.
Mongoose, do you have a theory as to what that could be?

I do! I'm leery about saying too much. I'm confident Bea has no idea how she was rezzed, if that helps at all.

blindfaeth wrote:

Sorry to see you go! I really enjoyed finally getting to meet you!

linki timmer - I don't think she brought herself back. That was something else.

juliets wrote:Mongoose, have you got a theory you would like to share ?

Yes, actually! Thank you for asking! Bea is not a dude, but she's been acting very kingly.

Over here! theories galore!

Hedgeowl wrote: It bea rhink she was being subtle and a ton of us thought Meat Boy, then anyone else have A better idea based on the new info?

I do, I do! PIck me!

Okay, hmm. Thanks for the clarification, host.

I have assumed for a long time that she eats something. What if she ate something that caused her to die? Then it would still read as she killed herself, right? (This is directed at players only, since it is speculation).

I wondered if Dev's role could be causing some of the chaos, but maybe not now based on Socky's clarification:

• Lucy - [Sgt. Pepper's] – A woman every bit as mysterious as she is beautiful. Each night she will lead someone through an acid laced vision. The effects of this will be a surprise to be interpreted only by the person she targets.

Nev - Couldn't there be a switcharoo type role out there? That can change around players' targets? If so, that could have affected bea, causing her to kill herself. I also thought she might be a role that involved eating. OR: there's a role that redirects one player's action onto another. We figure, due to Dev's really great articulation btw, that there might be an unlisted role (best evidenced by the fact that there is +1 role in the Red Room. If so, maybe that person has a switcharoo or redirect power.

Mycroft Holmes, of course. On one hand, that's a really good role to pick if you are Martell and lynched because it's completely innocuous and unable to trace that you are lying (kinda). Unlike Thomas who has 3x vote, so it's easy to tell if you are that person or not in hindsight. Also, she wouldn't want to pick a civilian who could be taken over to the other side like Jack. So it's a real safe choice.

However, I do remember that when she was lynched, I thought it made sense for her role to pop up as "Mycroft" because I figured she had saved INH from purgatory that one time. I've thought she was civ all game, honestly. But I'd listen to strong arguments in opposition as well.

linki - all y'all

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