The Syndicate

S~V~S wrote:The point is though, there would not have been a CFD on Fuzz had he not posted that seriously baddie vote in the middle of a discussion of seeking an alternate candidate for those of us not satisfied with a lynch of any of the poll leaders.

TH brought it up, and we all were talking about it when Silver pointed out Fuzz' scummy vote. I think the shocked reactions of several people, as well as the self righteous tones people started taking after ika had more votes is very telling. I think there was some real surprise and scrambling going on. I am usually not a person to like CFDs, this is the first one I have been involved in that actually worked. But I think it worked stupendously. And I am not liking the backlash against it.

Since Fuzz finished up with less votes I think it more likely that probably all of his teammates saved him. Had it been the other way, and had he had the most votes, I might think differently.

For the record, I really liked where your head was at on Day 2. I was heading that way. Also not a fan of CFD, which I also referenced in a less articulate way a couple of days ago.

Turnip Head wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

sig wrote:I don't like this huge bandwagon on gleam, espacilly since nobody has ever actually explained their suspicion of him, or if they have I don't remember it.

I've got a slight mafia gut read on Wilgy.

Also I find it odd how quite Zebra/LC seem to be this game.

I agree with this. I am mostly caught up and I really don't understand how Gleam has so many votes so early in the day. I understand votes are changeable but with this level it's making a statement and I don't understand the case.

This is where I'm at. Scotty's vote seems questionable to me, I haven't looked at the other votes in depth yet. Scotty said he was voting for Gleam "Because", and then when asked to elaborate, he said:

Scotty wrote:As for me voting gleam: it's mostly a continuation suspicion of my night 1 eyeing of him for being a floppy pancake. But I'm far too lazy to look it up right now. About to enter a poker tournament.

This isn't just. Throwaway vote on a wagon. It's just gut, and he happens to have a bunch of votes piles on as well, so there's that.

So idk, but putting the sixth vote on a wagon more than 24 hours before the lynch deadline, when it doesn't look like a "pressure vote" or like it's furthering the read, well it looks like it's just there. I feel like I can't judge Scotty's motives until the Day is over and I see what else he does with his vote, but right now I feel like he's just gonna keep it parked there until deadline and that feels weird to me for reasons I can't really articulate.

I see where you are going with this, but I totally read Scotty in this post as someone who just needed to phone it in for a day. I think about 5 other people were voting for gleam right up until the minutes leading up until lynchtime.

Golden wrote:

sig wrote:So re the whole Ike thing I wasn't feeling the wagon, but Silver coming in and saying she won't play as much if he flips bad is pingy on many levels. It isn't fair to the players or the hosts to hold your activity up as a weapon if things aren't going your way. This might just be me but this seems like a quite scummy thing to do. How does eveyrone else feel on this?

She said if he flips town. I don't think it looks scummy from her at all, she is going in to bat against a bad lynch wagon, and so she should.

Yeah to me, I read that as someone who is getting frustrated very reasonably. Of course baddies can be frustrated, but generally it has a different timbre or color to it that I'm not getting from her right now.

So last night I check in here after 5 sometime, with like 25 mins to go. I start reading through the posts and start creating my own vote and I lose wireless (I was in the car on the way to yoga, don't worry, I wasn't driving). so then I tried at least voting 20 times, but when I pressed enter each time, it would not go through and would just give me one of those dead pages you get when you don't have wireless signal. I even borrowed a friend's phone, but I guess at some time I had changed my password, so I couldn't log in that way. I had it resent to my email, but then I'm back to the problem that I couldnt access my email on my phone because...no wireless. Let's just say I was a very stressed out, anxious kitty by the time we arrived at yoga.

I just want to empathize with those espousing how playstyle will get you in trouble when it's totally not indicative of alignment -- I can 1000% relate to this discussion.

Gleam has really come into his own in mafia! I feel so proud.

thellama73 wrote:This thread seems to have become a less pleasant place since I was last here. I'll check in again in the morning.

Aww I missed you!

I'm only able to access this on a phone right now, so it goes without saying I'm feeling a little overwhelmed.

I did find time to read through llama posts, which were categorically hilarious.

That was a disorienting but entertaining chain of events!

agleaminranks wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

agleaminranks wrote:So it seems like Goosey is committed to my philosophy as well. Will she be subjected to the same criticism?

Did Goose say she is against lynching people? I didn't see that.

Not explicitly, but she's clearly against contributing to the lynch, in a noncommittal sort of fashion. She offered to do a vote trade with someone who had barely posted and had no votes against them.

That's exactly why I picked him. I just hate Day 1. It's hard to find the most persuasive of cases (not always). HATE Day 1. I'm not exactly new to vote trades on Day 1, Gleam. I do it in like half the games (but only on day 1).

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Also Moongose, I don't think anyone is attacking you for inactivity. Relax. You have been active enough.

Thanks dude -- I was mainly referencing Gleam's post. Again, it doesn't bother me a lick, but I just prefer to address these things as they come up.

linki - Oh lord, I'm so glad to hear you say that. I was embarrassed to admit that I was not following the threads of that triad very well either.

OKay, so here's the deal. I don't feel comfortable randomly voting. Thank you for your comments, and I agree that an ika vote today is not the way to go -- I appreciate your candor. I'll be around a lot next weekend, and you'll get to see how talky I can be -- anyone remember the first year of TS when Sock and I would fill pages?

ANYWAY sorry I'm constant digressions.

Since I don't feel comfortable making a case on anyone or buying into the current ones (so I'm going to offer TurnipHead this since Vompatti or Llama or etc isn't around) -- TH - would you fancy a vote trade? I'm going to vote you for admittedly no discernible reason -- please feel free to return the favor!

Sorry crew, I've got to jet and I just Do NOT like to miss votes.

* votes TurnipHead *

Silverwolf wrote:

Diiny wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Before I vote ika for the odd post on Silverwolf, is that something we do around here now? Vote for people to get their attention?

Ask yourself not whether people do it but whether ika would do it for the reasons they specified. Silently and without an accompanying post, mind you.

Yes he would and has done it in every recent game he's played against me. It's not really a good alignment tell for him.

That's really helpful - thanks! I'm going a bit blind with so many people that are new and/or new to me. And it cuts both ways because they don't know me from Adam's Housecat.

Diiny wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Before I vote ika for the odd post on Silverwolf, is that something we do around here now? Vote for people to get their attention?

Ask yourself not whether people do it but whether ika would do it for the reasons they specified. Silently and without an accompanying post, mind you.

I was literally compiling a post about not wanting to pile on ika when I noticed that there were three votes when I saw this in linki.

Golden - Thanks for the comment. I am not a fan of changeable votes historically, but I get why people like them. Just commit -- and don't be like my college boyfriend.

Before I vote ika for the odd post on Silverwolf, is that something we do around here now? Vote for people to get their attention?

Sloonei - no worries, I saw -- I always try to respond directly to anyone who's made a comment or query my way. Thanks to the ole handy Ctrl+F

Sloonei wrote:I will not be apologizing or moving my vote off her until/unless she responds. Or else it would have been an entirely pointless exercise. But I certainly don't intend on that being my final vote.

Dude, I'm just busy. When I have meat, I'll make sure you are firstly named on the meat doorside delivery service route. Meat for every mouth, and a Mazda in every garage -- isn't that how it goes?

I'm a little confused that I'm being seen already as an inactive player because I feel like I've posted several times, and not just fluff. This isn't being defensive by the way, I'm just trying to talk out loud in case it helps a bit. I just don't have the time anymore to check in multiple times a day, especially when I absolutely cannot check in on the site during work hours (vaguely between 8am and 8pm -- I'm an attorney and I've got a pretty big caseload, which honestly is the only reason I don't play anymore).

THat said, I certainly don't take offense or it to heart that someone votes me on day 1 for not making dozens of posts. Just letting y'all know that I'm doing the best I can, and warning you it's not likely going to get much better (in terms of quantity -- I'll always aim for quality).

I read through the arguments to and for finding the traitors, which I found pretty intriguing at first. But then I was glad that discussion more or less ceased. Basically the way I feel about Jurassic World. I'm going to continue to catch up in the limited time I can (I've got company coming tonight and staying most of the week), so there's a bit of a time pressure situation.


linki x 15 (seriously)

agleaminranks wrote:llama llama ding dong, why'd you vote for Metalmarsh? I don't remember seeing any justification.

I almost wonder if he meant to vote for me since he was probably on his phone (he is away on business this weekend) and I'm under Marmot in the lineup. We have a rather bloody history of (perhaps) needlessly voting for one another on Day 1. I'm sure as hell(okitty) not repeating that protocol this game -- I ain't got the stomach for that anymore.

That's entirely speculation though, I don't know what the in-game rapport between llama and marmot is like these days.

agleaminranks wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I'm taking my vote off Long Con. I wouldn't want anyone to think that I suspect him.

agleaminranks, come say something.

Hiii, I'm trying to catch up on the posts so far. I didn't get a chance to read through it yet because I just started my new job today as an afterschool math and physics tutor. I'll have something solid to go on in the next few hours hopefully~

Oh wow, imagine seeing you in these parts!


In other news, I think it's transcendent that we are having the Voting a Non-Participant discussion again, and on my first day back!. Historically, I am very fond of this tactic (that is, in the absence of anything meatier -we've certainly had meat in the room on day 1, so to speak).

Scotty wrote:I will bet my [hopefully] unborn child that the 30 person coordinated vote will not work out. There will be too many no-shows. There always is in these games.

I hate ploys like that because there's always one alpaca that won't fall in line. Great in theory though. I feel like it's worked before though. A la Minimalism Mafia. Who could forget that great hit from 2014?

I'll think about this traitor activation issue. Any more opinions on downsides?

It's good to be back around all y'all.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Hi all!!

Brand new here, first game so don't be too rough on me yet.

ika-Hi, How's it going? How do you think voting for me will help sort me?

That said, I've gotta read the game and the set-up again so...........I'll be back when I've done that.

Hi and welcome! Your username caught my eye because llama and I knew someone with this same screenname a long time ago in a galaxy far away.

By the way, you might be interested in joining the Animal Sanctuary Squad with that animal moniker and all. A simple scan of the roster doesn't look like we have a lot of A.S.S. members in this game for whatever reason.

There is a marmot on board.

How're you doing Mongoose? It's been too log since I voted for you in a game of mafia.

Hey dude! ASS pact ok. I'm doing a-okay. Vote for Pedro.I'm up late memorizing sanskrit for my test tomorrow oy vey.

Silverwolf wrote:Hi all!!

Brand new here, first game so don't be too rough on me yet.

ika-Hi, How's it going? How do you think voting for me will help sort me?

That said, I've gotta read the game and the set-up again so...........I'll be back when I've done that.

Hi and welcome! Your username caught my eye because llama and I knew someone with this same screenname a long time ago in a galaxy far away.

By the way, you might be interested in joining the Animal Sanctuary Squad with that animal moniker and all. A simple scan of the roster doesn't look like we have a lot of A.S.S. members in this game for whatever reason.

Turnip Head wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Yay Game

Old school, right into the lynch~

Certainly refreshing but bad timing for me personally. I'll be in Margaritaville all weekend for a wedding. So we should find the po-po quickly

Me too! I'm finishing my last 16 hours of my 200-hour Yoga Teacher Training. But honestly I'm just always slammed, just different levels of outrageously busy.

I want Simon to be in this game.