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by Bullzeye
Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:00 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)

Turnip Head wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I think I'm a quite easy scapegoat for Team Azura now. They don't want to lose Llama. They want to lynch someone who isn't on their team, so they will push the lynch in my direction.
The people expressing hesitance for a Llama vote today (MM, Daisy, myself) are the same people suspecting you (MM, Daisy, myself) and are the same people who have been saying all game that Llama is bad (MM, Daisy, myself). So who is this "they" you speak of? I believe Rey referred to this as "straw manning".
Azura's team benefit from my death more than Llama's. I've been set up as an easy target. It will be very easy for quiet players to latch onto your thoughts and say oh well if Llama is definitely Azura because you guys say so then I'll vote Bullzeye because you guys say so. Those will be the Azura teammates. You and Daisy simply aren't seeing it right. I don't think you're bad at all, and Daisy I thought was one of Epi's recruits at first but clearly I was wrong there if Team Caelia are gone. Regardless, I am not who you want to lynch today. I'm one of the few remaining civs in this game.
by Bullzeye
Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:50 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
And if she were going to rezz a teammate, it would surely be a powerful one.

Linki: Maybe you do llama. Is nutella good at competitions?
There are powerful roles other than Azura. Maybe Llama was the only dead recruit from her team?
by Bullzeye
Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:44 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)

thellama73 wrote:Who says nutella rezzed me? Like, broaden your mind, man.
Who else has a rezz in position three?
by Bullzeye
Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:43 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)

thellama73 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I really don't thnk you guys should lynch me. Metalmarsh is the droid you're looking for.
I really don't think you can be lynched today.
How can you be sure Ubzargan didn't switch the lynch last time Llama was up? Unless of course you're on that team. He was rezzed by one of Azura's recruits, he's blatantly a baddie.
I think you mean blatantly innocent.
So Nutella rezzed someone who wasn't her own teammate, on a day she must have known she was probably going to be lynched (can't remember how far along the bandwagon was at the point of your rezz), for what purpose? Seems like a waste to me. Seems like the kind of thing her whole team would be dead against, even if they were all still alive.
by Bullzeye
Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:36 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I really don't thnk you guys should lynch me. Metalmarsh is the droid you're looking for.
I really don't think you can be lynched today.
How can you be sure Ubzargan didn't switch the lynch last time Llama was up? Unless of course you're on that team. He was rezzed by one of Azura's recruits, he's blatantly a baddie.
by Bullzeye
Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:23 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)

Voting Llama. I will say again - I wasn't trying to prevent Nutella's lynch in any way. I personally didn't see the case against her so didn't vote that way myself and found Rey suspicious. He then provoked me into a discussion of it which ended up with people pointing fingers at me saying I was trying to defend/distract/seduce people. Not the case. If Rey hadn't been questioning my every opinion, I'd have said no more on the topic. I think I'm a quite easy scapegoat for Team Azura now. They don't want to lose Llama. They want to lynch someone who isn't on their team, so they will push the lynch in my direction.
by Bullzeye
Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:44 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 12)

Spacedaisy wrote:
reywaS wrote:Ok, I have a question about the whole "let's definitely lynch llama tomorrow" thing. I could very well be missing something here, but that's the purpose of the question. :D

Why is llama the obvious choice to be a team mate of nutella rather than, say, Turnip Head or Bullzeye who were the most vocal advocates for abandoning the idea of lynching nutella in order to get rid of me?
I never said llama was the sure thing lynch tomorrow, just that he will obviously be kynched before long. I'm not committing to anything yet.
Why wouldn't we lynch him straight away? Rather than mess about with convenient scapegoats we should lynch the blatant baddie.
by Bullzeye
Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:16 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 12)

thellama73 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
reywaS wrote:Ok, I have a question about the whole "let's definitely lynch llama tomorrow" thing. I could very well be missing something here, but that's the purpose of the question. :D

Why is llama the obvious choice to be a team mate of nutella rather than, say, Turnip Head or Bullzeye who were the most vocal advocates for abandoning the idea of lynching nutella in order to get rid of me?
Llama was likely to have been rezzed by LA. Her role had a rez in this position. Do baddies often rezz non-teammates, in your experience?

Linki - I went off the post detailing all living and dead players, which doesn't include failed kill attempts. I literally listed the four names on the dead list described as killed by the Mercenary.
I knew I should have lynched you when I had the chance, you fiend. Stop spreading lies about me. There are other rezzes besides Nutella's. Why is she called LA anyway?
1. When did you have the chance to lynch me?
2. How many are in position 3?
3. I originally knew her as LA from the LP days where she was called lostaddict so I occasionally refer to her as that because two letters are faster to type than seven.
by Bullzeye
Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:06 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 12)

reywaS wrote:Ok, I have a question about the whole "let's definitely lynch llama tomorrow" thing. I could very well be missing something here, but that's the purpose of the question. :D

Why is llama the obvious choice to be a team mate of nutella rather than, say, Turnip Head or Bullzeye who were the most vocal advocates for abandoning the idea of lynching nutella in order to get rid of me?
Llama was likely to have been rezzed by LA. Her role had a rez in this position. Do baddies often rezz non-teammates, in your experience?

Linki - I went off the post detailing all living and dead players, which doesn't include failed kill attempts. I literally listed the four names on the dead list described as killed by the Mercenary.
by Bullzeye
Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:18 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 12)

But there's a baddie lynch switch on 2 isn't there? Ubz might switch for the hell of it.
by Bullzeye
Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:22 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 12)

For the record I still don't trust Rey, I think he's either an unaligned killer (and therefore untrustworthy) or a baddie pretending to be said killer. I think it's a mistake to keep him around but as we can almost definitely lynch a baddie tomorrow I'll hold off on that. After Llama, since nobody else seems to agree with me, I'll probably move back to Devin or see what else has come up over that period of time.
by Bullzeye
Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:17 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 12)

I think tomorrow's vote goes without saying really at this point.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:16 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:I do like working with/listening to people who sound genuine.
You know he's just saying whatever he has to in order to stay alive, right?

If he's the SK then he probably needs everyone dead to win, that's what SK means. Good luck with that :kadaj:
I'm not blind to this possibility. To kind of piggy-back Sorsha's post: How many baddies have we lynched this game? How many baddies do you think RM has killed. Right now it feels like the odds are that he has done more good than we have. That may just be me, though.
The Mercenary has killed:

JJJ - 90% sure not a baddie.
Ricochet - As above.
Llama - Uncertain, could go either way. No longer dead anyway.
Tranq - Maybe he was bad? I lean more bad than good tbh.

In my opinion he has at best a 50% success rate. Which is better than the success rate of our lynches sure, but still not good. I don't see why we'd trust him anyway. He will kill people that are a threat to him. Nobody is playing to let other teams win.
Yup, Bullzeye and llama are teammates, and very likely bad.
Please don't drag me into whatever petty bickering is going on between you and Llama. I don't think he's bad but I don't think he's good either, I don't have a solid opinion on him. Honestly I'd say more bad than good but it's irrelevant today.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:49 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Bet I'm on your shitlist Rey. It's okay, I'll be on everyone's if LA isn't a civ.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:47 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:noone but a dead-role-checker can possibly know for certain what alignment nked players are. I'm never sure which way to read Rico, and this is my first time playing in a game with JJJ. And from my texts with MP about his visits to other sites, he's (JJJ) a legendary player who can waltz on both sides of the alignment dance floor. If I remember correctly, I think MP told me that JJJ won the multi-site championship as a baddie. So I'm less inclined to believe his supatown act either way.
A lot of people have been saying the Tranq is bad, but he's been quieter than myself and reywaS had been. Almost nothing to go on there that I can tell.
But I think we are both in agreement with llama's alignment. More on that when he's not immune.

Hope my point is clear here. I rambled a little bit.
I see your point, but I can only go off my own beliefs. I believe they were both civ. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd rather be wrong by myself than right because I allowed others to do all my thinking for me. I also think there's a chance Rey isn't the Mercenary and is in fact a baddie who is letting us believe he's the Mercenary because it's easier than the truth. In this scenario the true Mercenary is allowing the facade to continue because it allows him to operate undetected and keeps attention off him.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:19 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:No. So how are you so sure about them? I'm not.
Same goes for the 2 supposed baddies.
I think both JJJ and Rico were civs, either recruited to a team or civ-friendly neutrals. Their actions throughout the game have lead me to believe such. As for Llama and Tranq - I'm not calling either of them bad. I thought Tranq might be. Re-read my comments. I've never said he definitely did kill 2 and only 2 civs. It is all based on my own opinion. That's all I've got to work with and it's clearly not worth much.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:13 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Have you role-checked JJJ and Rico?
No. Have you?
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:10 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Inb4 saying that means I'm her teammate as if there was a response you'd have been happy with.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:09 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

reywaS wrote:So, why don't you tell us how you feel about nutella then?
I don't particularly feel anything. I haven't seen anything that made me want to lynch her and nobody has convinced me to vote for her.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:02 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

reywaS wrote: Why in the world would you self connect to nutella if you were her team mate given the current status quo? This is another strawman, Bullz.
Sorry, no it isn't. My suspicion of you has nothing to do with her. You are making it about her. I am defending myself, if anything, because every time I say anything at all you come out with "durr strawman if your posts only had a brain".

My opinion is this:

You are a role that isn't a civ and whose kills so far consist of at least 50% civs, as I believe. That makes you, in my opinion, no ally of mine. If you are not this role, then I believe that you are allowing people to think it because you are bad and it is a reasonable defensive position to take. I am not pushing this idea onto anyone else, merely defending the honesty behind it which keeps on being questioned.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:54 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

I also don't see how I'm fighting/pushing/whatevering for Rey's lynch. Every post I've made on the topic has literally been defending my own point of view. When someone has something to say to/about me, I respond to it.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:52 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

reywaS wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:In my mind: The biggest threats to the RM right now are the baddie teams. The biggest threat to the baddie teams, atm, is the RM.
I think Bullz is bad. Why else would he be fighting so hard to get rid of a "danger" that just has to survive to win.

Linki: yes. There would be dire consequences for role-hinting at that scale. I'm sure it's in da rules somewhere.
Why am I "fighting so hard"? Because nobody seems to want to lynch you all that much today, so I'm going with my other suspect. I'm not pushing other people to vote him, half of what I'm saying is just defending my viewpoint. If he is the Mercenary, there's no reason to trust him. If he isn't, then he's bad and should be lynched.

OR....

nutella is your baddie team mate and you are pushing this so hard to save her. Thinking objectively, that is a very real possibility, no?
I'm not pushing against her lynch. I don't care about her lynch. I haven't voted for her, but I've not pushed anyone to not vote for her and I'm not pushing people to voting for you. I'm literally just responding to things people say to me or say about my opinions. Should I ignore you instead? That'd be rude.

Seriously, you're literally just saying this because I want you lynched. I've not said a word in Nutella's defense and I'm not going to. I think you are bad or at least a dangerous role who has shown himself happy to kill civs, so I'm voting for you. Every word I say, you've got a critical response to. I'm not going to ignore someone trying to defend themselves but I'm not going to change my opinion because you threaten to suspect me for it.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:39 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:In my mind: The biggest threats to the RM right now are the baddie teams. The biggest threat to the baddie teams, atm, is the RM.
I think Bullz is bad. Why else would he be fighting so hard to get rid of a "danger" that just has to survive to win.

Linki: yes. There would be dire consequences for role-hinting at that scale. I'm sure it's in da rules somewhere.
Why am I "fighting so hard"? Because nobody seems to want to lynch you all that much today, so I'm going with my other suspect. I'm not pushing other people to vote him, half of what I'm saying is just defending my viewpoint. If he is the Mercenary, there's no reason to trust him. If he isn't, then he's bad and should be lynched.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:35 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

You welcomed it though. Nobody has come forward to push that strongly against it, though I can see why they wouldn't, but I can't see why you'd act like it was true unless:

A - it was.
B - you're bad and would rather people think you're the Mercenary.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:33 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

reywaS wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
If the Rogue Mercenary is not recruited by night 5, he will turn SK, he will then start killing nightly and will no longer be able to be recruited
So what allies do you have, Rey? If you really are the Mercenary who has been killing nightly since JJJ on Night 6. It's clear the Merc went unrecruited.

Curious what you left off of that....
Survive to win. But that doesn't answer my question.
reywaS wrote:
You are setting up a strawman argument, bullz. That sounds dubious to me.

Linki w/ Sorsha: Why would anyone other than baddies want me dead via a lynch? There is a lot of potential baddie motivation for this. I can't see a lot of civvie motivation for it. I guess baddies would rather lynch me because it wastes a lynch and saves a NK. win/win for a baddie team.
What I am doing is explaining why, from my point of view, you are a threat. Is that wrong of me to do? Love the NO U at the end there. You've killed two people I think were civs, that's a civ motivation to lynch you.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:28 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

reywaS wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
reywaS wrote: hyperbole is the perfect description of what you are proposing. Thank you for saying it.

Also...why do you assume to know how I would approach a survive to win role?

This all sounds like something a politician would say. "Look everyone, let me show you who your enemy is even if you don't think they are."
I don't know how you specifically would approach it but I'm not stupid, I know how such roles are played. I'm not saying you're people's enemy, I'm saying you're a danger even if you want to deny it. You're promising the world to people knowing you can't follow through. You can't be everyone's ally. Don't act as if you can.
What? This is a silly argument, Bullz. You are setting me up to be the ultimate danger to everyone left in the game when the truth doesn't support your idea. A role that doesn't "need" anyone dead can only have a certain number of allies? I don't follow that logic. If I were thinking critically about this, I would say that it would be quite easy for such a role to sit back and not kill anyone.
I'm really not. I'm saying I think you are a danger and I'd like that danger to be removed. You aren't the biggest danger and I came into this thinking you were just another baddie, but an SK (and that is what the Rogue Mercenary's description calls him if he isn't recruited by night 5) is fine by me. I specifically find issues with Devin's desire to keep you around because I think he's acting naive. You can only have so many allies because you literally can't ally with all four factions in the game. You can ally with the civs, or you can ally with a baddie team. Therefore you can only have a set amount of allies.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:19 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

If the Rogue Mercenary is not recruited by night 5, he will turn SK, he will then start killing nightly and will no longer be able to be recruited
So what allies do you have, Rey? If you really are the Mercenary who has been killing nightly since JJJ on Night 6. It's clear the Merc went unrecruited.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:14 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

reywaS wrote: hyperbole is the perfect description of what you are proposing. Thank you for saying it.

Also...why do you assume to know how I would approach a survive to win role?

This all sounds like something a politician would say. "Look everyone, let me show you who your enemy is even if you don't think they are."
I don't know how you specifically would approach it but I'm not stupid, I know how such roles are played. I'm not saying you're people's enemy, I'm saying you're a danger even if you want to deny it. You're promising the world to people knowing you can't follow through. You can't be everyone's ally. Don't act as if you can.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:09 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Fair enough, TH :) I doubt I will win this game, so I'm comfortable taking a few risks.
And when he thanks you with your own death tonight? Are you that invested in his survival?
I know reywaS isn't dumb. But what makes you think he would kill a potential ally before those who voted against him?

Linki :)
Well if you're saying it's kill Rey or be killed, then my vote is staying where it is and I'd hope others vote for him too as I don't want to be on his hitlist. But consider the linki, because you're not dumb either so I don't get it. Not everyone who wants to keep Rey around is on the same team. Say we lynch Nutella today and Rey swears loyalty to everyone that didn't vote him - not all those people are on the same team. He'll have to pick a side. How sure are you you'll stay on that side?
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:06 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

reywaS wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
reywaS wrote:Beware those that are turning me into a huge distraction today. Ask yourself why there are people pushing this agenda of me being super dangerous to everyone and therefore must go ASAP considering the role they claim I am has a very obvious "Survive to win" win condition listed.

Look at the fear pushing of bullzeye for example. In this pretend world you've created, what would be the point of night killing people that are supporting me? That would be awfully short sighted, would it not?

Fear the fear pushers, friends.
You'll survive with whoever you want to survive with - i.e. whoever is easiest to survive with when it all comes down to it. That's not fear pushing, it's stating the obvious.
So...killing allies is taking the easy route in your scenario?
No, but you have no allies. Not really. Everyone has their own team and is mostly invested in protecting their own. Nobody needs you around. Similarly, you don't need anyone in particular. If you thought Devin was a threat or didn't think continuing to be allied with him was a worthwhile option, you'd kill him without a second thought. Obviously you probably won't actually kill him tonight, that was hyperbole. But you'll kill him the second you think it's worth it and there's no point denying that.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:59 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

reywaS wrote:Beware those that are turning me into a huge distraction today. Ask yourself why there are people pushing this agenda of me being super dangerous to everyone and therefore must go ASAP considering the role they claim I am has a very obvious "Survive to win" win condition listed.

Look at the fear pushing of bullzeye for example. In this pretend world you've created, what would be the point of night killing people that are supporting me? That would be awfully short sighted, would it not?

Fear the fear pushers, friends.
You'll survive with whoever you want to survive with - i.e. whoever is easiest to survive with when it all comes down to it. That's not fear pushing, it's stating the obvious.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:52 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Fair enough, TH :) I doubt I will win this game, so I'm comfortable taking a few risks.
And when he thanks you with your own death tonight? Are you that invested in his survival?
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:55 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Also if I missed any mercenary kills let me know, those are the only four listed on the front page.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:54 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:I do like working with/listening to people who sound genuine.
You know he's just saying whatever he has to in order to stay alive, right?

If he's the SK then he probably needs everyone dead to win, that's what SK means. Good luck with that :kadaj:
I'm not blind to this possibility. To kind of piggy-back Sorsha's post: How many baddies have we lynched this game? How many baddies do you think RM has killed. Right now it feels like the odds are that he has done more good than we have. That may just be me, though.
The Mercenary has killed:

JJJ - 90% sure not a baddie.
Ricochet - As above.
Llama - Uncertain, could go either way. No longer dead anyway.
Tranq - Maybe he was bad? I lean more bad than good tbh.

In my opinion he has at best a 50% success rate. Which is better than the success rate of our lynches sure, but still not good. I don't see why we'd trust him anyway. He will kill people that are a threat to him. Nobody is playing to let other teams win.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:40 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Turnip Head wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:It's not like SKs always say they intend to help/work with others and never mean it or anything as well. Definitely not the oldest line in the book, no sir.
Can confirm. I got caught as the SK once and tried this exact same move :haha:
As has probably every SK I've ever seen that didn't win the game. I've yet to be one but I'm sure when I am I'll probably use the same tired excuse and be amazed when it doesn't work.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:34 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Turnip Head wrote:
Devin the Omniscient wrote:I do like working with/listening to people who sound genuine.
You know he's just saying whatever he has to in order to stay alive, right?

If he's the SK then he probably needs everyone dead to win, that's what SK means. Good luck with that :kadaj:
It's not like SKs always say they intend to help/work with others and never mean it or anything as well. Definitely not the oldest line in the book, no sir.
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:23 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)

Devin the Omniscient wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:I don't have any problem *Voting for Rey*. Will follow it up with a Devin vote tomorrow I imagine.
No u :eye: :eye:
No, U :eye: :eye: :eye:

:P
by Bullzeye
Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:08 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

I don't have any problem *Voting for Rey*. Will follow it up with a Devin vote tomorrow I imagine.
by Bullzeye
Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:52 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

nutella wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
nutella wrote:I'm voting for this nub Devin and encourage others to do the same. Or vote rey. He won't ever respond anyway.
What do you think about bullzeye? Do you agree with MMs case?
Somehow glossed over that. It's a little interesting that bullzeye hasn't changed his views on people over the course of the game, but that's definitely true for some of my views as well so :shrug2: But now that everyone's been recruited he shouldn't keep saying he has neutral vibes from anyone. I'd like to hear some opinions from him that commit one way or the other.

Llama's back? Seems sketchy :ponder:
When do I keep saying I think people are neutral? Pretty sure I've given five or six opinions today, none of which say neutral. I'm committed 100%. I've also had opinions change over time. MM just jumped off my most recent post of the time with that comment and you clearly didn't double check the accuracy. I'd like to know what Sorsha thinks too tbh rather than seeing her just poke at others for their views.
by Bullzeye
Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:21 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Okay so here are the results of the further reading I had planned to do. So...


Aapje - The big issue I had with him was his single-mindedness against DP. This culminated with him voting DP instead of Bubbles the day she was lynched despite having pointed out how obviously fake her confusion at the lynch switch was. He has been less narrow since and I don't see much to make me want to maintain a suspicion.

Devin - Super blendy. Tends to vote for the current bandwagon, feels like he's deliberately avoiding having any attention drawn to him. I could see a vote for Devin today.

Rey - There's no denying the change in him after Golden's death. 5 pages of posts up to day 3 and then one for the past 9 days. He claims burnout as the reason but still? After all this time? I dunno. At one point I felt like he was also trying to shed distrust onto Epi despite DH having made it perfectly obvious what their role is. That's eye-worthy IMO.

TH - Not sure what I think of him tbh, sometimes he seems reasonable and occasionally not but in general I'm leaning toward the good side of things.

So in summary I'll probably end up voting for Devin but would also be happy to consider Rey as a vote.
by Bullzeye
Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:11 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:And who says Llama had a team of any kind? Are you just making things up as you go along? Please let me know ASAP so I can start ignoring you.
And I believe you both were on TinyBubbles team.

Who do you want to lynch today?
You think I was on Bubbles' team? I kinda absentmindedly helped her get lynched and then started pursuing leads as to her teammates, so I can see why you'd think that. Is there any particular reason why you think I'm so clearly connected to both Bubbles and Llama? If you want me to take a case seriously you need to... y'know, actually have a case.

As for who I want to lynch. I could go one of a few ways and will be explaining my thoughts shortly but since you ask I'm considering:

Aap - related back to ages ago, I noticed a few things that made me think he could be on Bubbles' team but then other stuff was happening in thread and irl to make me forget.

Devin - Why SVS suspected me, I couldn't tell you one thing he's done all game and on reread it seems nearly all his votes follow popular opinion.

Rey - Because I did think he seemed genuine early on, but then he has completely changed since Golden's lynch and while he says that's because of the outcome of that particular pursuit I'm not so sure.

TH - Another person I had moderate suspicion of a while back but forgot about it with everything going on. I felt like he had Bubbles' back quite a lot during her lynch - of particular note was his fairly hostile reaction toward my vote for her which felt like a frustrated teammate IMO.

These are the people I intend to look at today in more depth, this is just off the top of my head and with a bit of a skim in some places. Proper reads will be forthcoming.
One thing I noticed between all of your reads. They are all based on "feelings I've had since early on" or something to that effect. Same with your nutella read. You've had "reasonably decent vibes from her all game."

It's great to see your thoughts on players, but it seems you can't be bothered to change your mind on them. I believe you are bad because of it.
It's not that I can't be bothered. The game moves on, other things come up, people get forgotten about. It's good to revisit those people and see if things have changed. If I can't be bothered to change my mind why would I be rereading those people's posts and adding to/changing my views on them? I don't think the point you're trying to make has any value tbh.
by Bullzeye
Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:31 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:And who says Llama had a team of any kind? Are you just making things up as you go along? Please let me know ASAP so I can start ignoring you.
And I believe you both were on TinyBubbles team.

Who do you want to lynch today?
You think I was on Bubbles' team? I kinda absentmindedly helped her get lynched and then started pursuing leads as to her teammates, so I can see why you'd think that. Is there any particular reason why you think I'm so clearly connected to both Bubbles and Llama? If you want me to take a case seriously you need to... y'know, actually have a case.

As for who I want to lynch. I could go one of a few ways and will be explaining my thoughts shortly but since you ask I'm considering:

Aap - related back to ages ago, I noticed a few things that made me think he could be on Bubbles' team but then other stuff was happening in thread and irl to make me forget.

Devin - Why SVS suspected me, I couldn't tell you one thing he's done all game and on reread it seems nearly all his votes follow popular opinion.

Rey - Because I did think he seemed genuine early on, but then he has completely changed since Golden's lynch and while he says that's because of the outcome of that particular pursuit I'm not so sure.

TH - Another person I had moderate suspicion of a while back but forgot about it with everything going on. I felt like he had Bubbles' back quite a lot during her lynch - of particular note was his fairly hostile reaction toward my vote for her which felt like a frustrated teammate IMO.

These are the people I intend to look at today in more depth, this is just off the top of my head and with a bit of a skim in some places. Proper reads will be forthcoming.
by Bullzeye
Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:07 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

And who says Llama had a team of any kind? Are you just making things up as you go along? Please let me know ASAP so I can start ignoring you.
by Bullzeye
Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:06 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Views: 208033

Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

Again, what? Why would I be on Llama's team?
by Bullzeye
Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:04 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)

I don't see why LA is such a solid bet. Is it all just the one post Epi had an issue with? I've had reasonably decent vibes from her all game.
by Bullzeye
Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:50 pm
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 11)

I'll still be around for a few more hours but I'm putting my vote on BWT now as I mentioned I might earlier.
by Bullzeye
Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:07 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 11)

I could see a BWT vote today. I was suspicious of Boom on and off all game - one of those people who are always at the back of your mind. I also think Daisy made some solid points against him. I'm open to other ideas though but this is where I'm probably going.
by Bullzeye
Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:46 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 10)

I'm hoping to do a PhD, I don't have one yet :P Waiting for unis to announce their funding for next September so I can shop around but I also want to earn money in the meantime.
by Bullzeye
Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:30 am
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Topic: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 10)

That maybe came off a bit sadder than I intended! It's just I've come "home" from uni for the final time, never to return, and my job/PhD hunt isn't going anywhere so I'm here and unemployed for the foreseeable future - meaning I've got little to do except fill out applications and laze around playing mafia. I appreciate the consideration though. But Scotty, I can't do maths so maybe don't send me those tax returns.

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