The Syndicate

Gonna go with a Llama vote. I think the case against him is pretty solid. DH in particular made some good points about his general attitude and inconsistency in that he accused DH of 'squashing discussion' but it was okay for me to voice a pretty similar opinion. I also generally think the notion of squashing discussion is a pretty weak argument usually brought up as a desperate tactic. (As I said in WWE, we're all adults and we can discuss whatever we choose. If someone doesn't want us to talk about a particular topic they can tell us not to til they're blue in the face but it shouldn't make a difference) [/slight tangent].

I really don't have time for this game any more and it's a pity MP won't be doing replacements. Expect to see me less over time, I knew this would happen and the only reason I agreed to play was because of how upset I was at the way I got killed off in WWE. Kinda hoped I wouldn't live as long as I have in this one! I'm having fun though of course and will do my absolute best to carry on but my activity will be minimal due to the huge workload I'm dealing with.

DharmaHelper wrote:So then that means Kate was Big Daddy?

Could do . It is possible FH voted at the wrong time by accident but I'd think the whole team would be being quite careful with it.

DharmaHelper wrote:Actually looking at the list of kills, it seems like either Kate or FH were big daddy.

If FH was Big Daddy, wouldn't she have known what number the PP picked and waited for someone else to vote at that number? Whenever we used it in Mario we paid very close attention to how many had voted.

Expect me to be mostly quiet from now on. Final semester of uni has begun and I did warn MP beforehand that I probably wouldn't have a lot of time for the game after today. Catching up shortly.

Quickly popping in to vote for Lizzy, Kate, and FH. Lizzy = obvious reasons. Of the NK'ed players, 2 we know are bad (well, dangerous indies) and I don't remember Rey being around much at all. Given what had gone down earlier I'm not sure SVS will want to be rezzed. I find it curious that AP is on the rezz poll given that he was modkilled for breaking the rules rather than lynched or NKed like everyone else.

I have company over shortly and we'll be out until probably after the poll so I'm gonna put my vote out there now. Gonna stick with the DP vote from last night. He's not playing like a champion, has barely been around and hasn't had anything to say really in his defense.

Russtifinko wrote:
And I agree, spreading too much may not help us find BOB's minion. It could stop them from killing, though. At the very least, voting for a few players in addition to lynch candidates will either clear them or narrow our suspect pool a great deal.

But then who votes for the non-candidates? According to this system someone basically has to throw away their vote onto someone who they may not even be suspicious of just because there's a 1 in 20something chance of them being a recruit...

Mongoose wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:Sorry for more big posts. Just musing for now.

I also think it's weird the modkill last night didn't even to deflect to the person with the second most votes. Dom was on the poll, but got no votes. Unless MP has a beef with Dom (which I very much doubt), it got deflected to a random player on the poll.

I think we've caught a baddie BWT. Someone let me know if I'm getting tunnel vision on that though. However, if DP really is Zodac, he's probably an even bigger priority for now. And I think Elo and bea should be covered.

Exactly, I think cost-benefit analysis on that one is much more Pro. Meaning DP. I went through about 5 or 6 different theories yesterday (and I like yours above a lot too) and more of them are nefarious for DP than innocuous.

Since Bob is dead, is it still as important we spread out the vote? I sincerely want to know.

Bob's recruit can still kill if they don't get a vote. Personally I don't know how much spreading the vote can help, if it's spread out too far and we don't see a recruit kill tonight then we've still not learned anything. Also it's possible they might be allowed to choose not to kill anyone, thereby framing someone who did get a vote even if they didn't.

Elohcin wrote:Wow...a lot happened. RIPIYWG Kate. Bye Dom .

Mongoose wrote:
Nev - Indeed, I think the PP PM was sent in, but last time the number chosen was eaten by a non-player (K4J, for instance), it was mentioned in the host post. Like you said and like I said, maybe I'm reading too much (or just erroneously) into the host post though. Good point about missing votes, though. Very good point indeed.

hmm...Any ideas on which number PP would pick?

Probably a number that's not too high or low. Somewhere in the middle. I think that's how we tended to do it in Mario.

Nevinera wrote:

Bullzeye wrote: The PP has only had one opportunity to kill so far, which is when it ate K4J. It targets on odd nights, so if alive it will have sent a number in last night that relates to today's lynch and we will presumably see the outcome of that after the lynch. There's no reason to assume it's dead yet.

Also, if it's picking numbers as high as 'players - 2' then the baddies are doing it wrong

Quite right as well; I should have reread the role before commenting on it.
And yes, but I could see why a baddie team could err on that side if the first time it picked too low and got a non-player.

It's true that they could have (and I hope they did). But if they did they're not paying attention and their kill will fail. I think after a few days of PP kill attempts we might actually be able to find a pattern of numbers they're choosing and then hopefully get dead/host/non-players to vote at those times.

Nevinera wrote:

blindfaeth wrote: Nevinera, could you elaborate further on this logic? I don't follow why you jumped to the conclusion that certain people weren't bob's minion-

It's not a conclusion, just evidence.
The point I was making was that if the minion got to try a NK last night, then it must not have received a vote.
I've since noticed that it's totally possible that Jack was trying to kill me instead though, which we'll be able to verify later
(a few nights with no jack kill will make me fairly confident it was the minion for example)

Have you noticed both times the night post mentions you, it was the Manipulators kill? Someone mentioned AP's role could add to night posts in its original form. I wonder if that's what happened on the first night, but it doesn't explain your second appearance. I have a couple of theories bouncing around in my head that are probably all wrong.

Mongoose wrote:

Nevinera wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Hmm, okay. Piranha could always have been blocked or PM'd in that s/he was declining to use the power. Or the person is dead, D-E-D.

He could also have been picking numbers that get taken by non-players.
We have a few people trying to eat that kill, and we also have had missing votes - if he has been picking high numbers,
like 'number of players - 2' for example, nobody would get killed.
I don't think their team would be missing the pm - even if the player is not showing up, their team would be picking something for them.

Nev - Indeed, I think the PP PM was sent in, but last time the number chosen was eaten by a non-player (K4J, for instance), it was mentioned in the host post. Like you said and like I said, maybe I'm reading too much (or just erroneously) into the host post though. Good point about missing votes, though. Very good point indeed.

The PP has only had one opportunity to kill so far, which is when it ate K4J. It targets on odd nights, so if alive it will have sent a number in last night that relates to today's lynch and we will presumably see the outcome of that after the lynch. There's no reason to assume it's dead yet.

Also, if it's picking numbers as high as 'players - 2' then the baddies are doing it wrong

Mongoose wrote:So there was no word about the Piranha Plant eating someone or a NP or deadie. And last night was an odd night, so a kill could have been made/attempted. That makes me think that the Piranha Plant player is a no-show.

Unless its changed for this game, the Pirahna Plant only kills after lynches. It picks a number at night and the person who votes at that number in the next lynch poll gets eaten.

BigDamnHero wrote:is there anything really left to say? DP already has the majority of the votes. It'd take a miracle to save him at this point (cuz from what I've read I don't see an ability to stop lynches that occur at night).

We don't know that this is definitely a lynch. I understood it as DP will receive some kind of punishment, but not necessarily be killed. Was I the only one who took it that way?

I'm also gonna vote DP. Agleam and DF also need to up their game a bit by the look of the numbers.

I think in the absence of anything else catching my eye I'm gonna have to *Vote Lizzy*. There's a significant chance she could be about to become an SK and that's a risk I'd rather not take, especially since I've had bad luck with SKs recently.

juliets wrote:I don't understand how someone could be framing her. Isn't the info 50% chance of being true, 50% chance of being false? It seems like that just comes with the role. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you Mongoose.

This was my interpretation of the info as well, so I'm also unsure as to how someone could be framing anyone. Also if they were, surely Epi's role reveal would've been someone we'd want to lynch as well? Or why frame Lizzy over Epig?

Mongoose wrote:Epi - I've thought about that too, but what if she isn't Jack and someone is framing her? They want us to think she is Jack. That's the only thing that's stayed my hand in voting for her thus far.

Do we or do we not trust that intel?

According to the role description Moriarty has a 50% chance of being inaccurate. So there's a 50% chance Lizzy is absolutely any other role.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

AceofSpaces wrote:I do believe that the current order of players is correct, because I'd go insane trying to figure the order out if it wasn't.

Now that you mention this, I didn't notice before that the numbers are now gone...
Unless my computer's being weird. Does anyone see numbers on the poll?

I see an 11 by BWT's name and a 73 by Llama's, as well as a 666. Other than that, no

Hopefully the craziness is over and the poll is just the poll at this point.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:So who do you guys want to lynch?

You.

Why's that?

Do I have to come out and say it? The poll is the poll -- and always was the same poll.

Why not? It'd be pretty Avant Garde to lynch the host, wouldn't it?

MovingPictures07 wrote:So who do you guys want to lynch?

You.

Sorry for being missing for most of this confusing day, it was my best friend's birthday yesterday and we were out until 5am. Woke up a couple of hours ago, will find some food and catch up properly in a minute.

insertnamehere wrote:If anyone gets a rez, you know who to use it on.

Yeah, anyone but the guy who's probably a dangerous indy with no reason to have any affection for the civs after we tried to bandwagon him twice!

Hedgeowl wrote: I dont really want this to derail the whole thread like it did in the other games, so I am trying to answer questions, but Dom made some excellent points as well. Why the attack on Elo vs. bea voters?

When I first commented about the Elo votes, Bea only had 2 votes on her. They began to fly in right after I self-voted. I don't think it's entirely normal that she got like 4 in a row, but nor do I agree with voting for someone just because someone else (albeit someone very close to that person) whose allegiance is unclear says it's a good idea.

Dom wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.

So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of many factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.

I see two scenarios in which we should be concerned:
1) Elo is bad and Epig is bad
2) Elo is bad and Epig is good.

Epig's alignment really has nothing to do with whether Elo is good or not.

Interesting that people called four people voting Elo a bandwagon and then Bea got six votes.

I never used the term bandwagon. I just think it's odd how willing people are to trust Epi's instincts when we have no idea if he's trustworthy. He could be lying or wrong.

Hedgeowl wrote:Epi has a history of know civ Elo and its annoying when you are a baddie with her, but yeah it makes me trust his judgement on her. I will be burned by this when they are baddies and cant guarantee that they are not, but I feel better about this choice for now.

So basically you're voting her because Epi did? I guess I just don't agree with the reasoning. Maybe it is a civ Epi noticing a civ Elo but that's just one of many factors. She could've gotten better at fooling him, they could be bad together, he could be a baddie trying to set her up, or a baddie trying to make her think he's civ by supporting her. There's no way to know and I wouldn't want to base my vote on his or anyone else's in that way.

I'm gonna vote for myself actually, there's nobody I majorly trust at this point.

Dom wrote:
I'm voting for Elo.

Why? Epig's vote I understand but you and Hedge are putting a lot of trust into someone who has posted all of 9 times and not really said much... I don't get it.

Finally! If I never have to type those lyrics again it will be too soon.

Russtifinko wrote: At this point, we might as well try the same lynch we did today tomorrow, since double targeting is not allowed.

I don't see why not. Hopefully Media is less powerful tonight anyway.

Don't know who I want to vote for tonight. I'm not sure yet who I think is most trustworthy, so I might leave it for a while.

[quote="Mooby"]For instance, I do not have an edit button. Perhaps having hosted changed your permissions? This is something the Admins need to fix, but not mid game.[/quote

I haven't hosted here, and I have the edit option. Don't remember AP hosting either but he clearly could edit.


Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spent it with you
(just in case)

bea wrote:

Nevinera wrote:

bea wrote: 2) Oh, also - Nev! Any ideas how you survived the NK?

Maybe, but I'm being careful about the rules this game.

A side note, another possibility occurred to me about you-know-who:
He could be fetus, trying to draw lynches while unlynchable.
If we lynch him and nobody dies again, I lean that way.

fair enough - but no one asked and usually people are on that question like shit on a shingle so to speak so it just seemed weird to me that no one had blinked twice about your survival.

also Fetus as page 1 says it to be:

Dr. Fetus - [Super Meat Boy] – The game’s antagonist, Dr. Fetus, is truly evil. Every night, he hides Bandage Girl within a level that he has engineered to confuse Meat Boy; he must choose which level by the end of each day period. If she is found, he flees and tries again. Dr. Fetus cannot be lynched until Meat Boy is successful in finding Bandage Girl a fourth time.

this also makes some sense. He wouldn't be mod killed because he's claiming to be a role he doesn't have. And also - I could see him jumping full monty into the idea of "The game's antagonist." Especially if he's unlynchable for a certian amount of time. It would also make sense that he'd have claimed to helped "Bob, "himself," and you know, the guy on the other team." - this could still be plazmid work - is that what you are thinking?

linki again - THANK YOU DOM....

this one - is especially for dom.....

you just keep me hanging on...
you just keep me haaaaning on....
it's such a perfect day.
I'm glad I spent it with you.

I see where you're coming from with the idea that He isn't Media, but I'd say the fact a buttload of players are all cursed with variations of the same lame curse is pretty damning evidence. Nobody got as many mentions as him on day 1, so it's unlikely that if Media was someone else they'd have earned the power to curse half the game IMO.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spent it with you

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I think today the best thing I can do is to copy my previous vote. I just don't believe we can trust him to stick with the civs and think on the whole it's best if we just eliminate the threat outright.

*Votes X*


Weekenders on our own
It's such fun

I think you're bad. Why?
I'd be more threatened by a powerful indie if I were bad, too.

But, It's Just a perfect day.
You just keep me hanging on.

Actually I like indies a lot better when I'm bad. I'd be being nice to him, trying to subtly coax him to my side. Do you think you can trust him to stay with the civs?

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spent it with you

I don't fully trust him, no. But do you think he would try to win with the civs if we try to lynch his ass every time we turn around? No.

But my main focus in my posting barrage is trying to avoid a potential Zodac assassination.

I don't think he's got any reason to want to ally with the civs after day one, never mind future lynches. I think worrying about Zodac every day is a great way to distract us and make us not lynch whoever is the top suspect. I'm not saying we should forget him entirely but we can't live in fear of him every day.

Epignosis wrote:A Person was on a team.

What team would be crazy enough to let him do the shit he did?

That's what is on my mind.

I'd definitely want him to hold off on the crazy but at the same time a non-crazy AP is a suspicious AP. Someone acting completely differently to how they've played in the past is bound to draw suspicion, right? You'd kinda hope he played in his usual way so as to not get too much attention. Plus what Voldemort said about him probably not caring what his team said, that's also a good point.

Nevinera wrote: 1) If he actually just described the bulk of his powers accurately, he would have been modkilled for sure. That's not something you're allowed to do.
2) If he used some kind of 'chaos randomizer' like the role used to have, surely (a) it wouldn't have resulted in a bunch of people systematically receiving the same curse and (b) It wouldn't have resulted in NK's targeting both me and svs, two very active players at the time.

I also think it's very unlikely that MP would have left the secret roles remotely intact - not much point in secrets if everyone knows how they work, right?

You made some pretty good points in this post but I don't agree necessarily agree with point 1: If MP did modkill that guy for 'outlining his powers' then we'd know it was all true. Like Epig said at the end of Shawshank (regarding Elo's infodump), modkilling him would lend credit to his claims. Note that we don't know for certain he's Media, there's just a very large amount of evidence saying so. He has never claimed outright to be that role, nor has anyone claimed info to say he is. There's a slim chance this is all a coincidence and he's claiming a role he doesn't have for whatever reason (though this is very unlikely). MP modkilling that person would only prove he told the truth about his powers, and that they were indeed his powers.

Weekenders on our own
It's such fun

Epignosis wrote:Apparently nobody fears a game of multiple lynch switches.

That's the danger Zodac represents. People going after the biggest suspect is precisely why Zodac nearly won a 30 player game as a last man standing role.

Flyin' High, you of all people should remember that.

But what's the alternative? NOT going after the most suspicious people?

Oh, such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I think today the best thing I can do is to copy my previous vote. I just don't believe we can trust him to stick with the civs and think on the whole it's best if we just eliminate the threat outright.

*Votes X*


Weekenders on our own
It's such fun

I think you're bad. Why?
I'd be more threatened by a powerful indie if I were bad, too.

But, It's Just a perfect day.
You just keep me hanging on.

Actually I like indies a lot better when I'm bad. I'd be being nice to him, trying to subtly coax him to my side. Do you think you can trust him to stay with the civs?

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spent it with you

insertnamehere wrote:Look people, I know mafia involves reading, and apparently that's too much for some people, but I really expected better from you people. This is a game for goddamn champions.

And posts like this are how champions behave?


Just a perfect day
Drink sangria in the park

Epignosis wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Somehow I am not surprised that Epignosis, the guy that is responsible for the swoll ass powers of the Doge, is sour about the votes for Doge. It's such a perfect day to lynch Doge, and then drink sangria in the park.

Says someone who voted without reading even though we have another day.

I expressed all this before the Night was over.

But if he's not Media, how do you explain the buttload of players all with variations on the same curse?

Just a perfect day
You made me forget myself
I thought I was someone else
Someone who wasn't being forced to post Lou Reed lyrics, I mean seriously this song doesn't even have very many unique lines.

DharmaHelper wrote:I think the nub was modkilled for editing the shit out of his posts.

Its such a perfect day
Its such a perfect day

Pretty sure MP even quoted the posts he edited. Can't see someone dying for failing that curse given the amount of posts that have forgotten the lyrics and added them in a second post.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spent it with you

nobody, I'm talking to myself wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I think today the best thing I can do is to copy my previous vote. I just don't believe we can trust him to stick with the civs and think on the whole it's best if we just eliminate the threat outright.

*Votes X*


Weekenders on our own
It's such fun

Nobody is even mentioning Zodac, are they? Are they even reading the thread.

I'm definitely not. I have no idea what's going on here. Who are you?

Zodac is a possibility but we don't even know for sure he targeted you. There's every chance he might not have.

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spent it with you
Oh, such an awful day
I just keep quoting the same song

I think today the best thing I can do is to copy my previous vote. I just don't believe we can trust him to stick with the civs and think on the whole it's best if we just eliminate the threat outright.

*Votes X*


Weekenders on our own
It's such fun

Kate wrote: You completely ignore that this was mentioned in the thread with hours til night end and his power could have been switched, IF THAT IS HIS POWER in this game (which is not a FACT).

I think it'd be reasonable to assume that Zodac's power is still pretty much the same as it used to be, with just a slight tweak if necessary to make it fit better in the game. I can't think of a role on the list that has drastically changed from what it first was.


Just a perfect day
Problems all left alone

I'm never going to be able to listen to this song now, I'll associate it with having to post its lyrics in this game all day.

He who must not be named wrote:MP changed the role so that if I got an absurdly large amount of mentions, I'll get all of the powers at one time. I don't think he seriously expected me to get that much. That's why half the players are spouting Lou Reed lyrics. One of those powers is the ability to randomize all night actions, but I get to exempt three roles. As I said before, I chose myself, Zodac, and Moriarty.

My win condition is compatible with pretty much everyone elses. Including civvies, baddies, and BOBies. I don't want to completely reveal it, just to be safe with MP.

You guys have two options relating to me.

A: Vote for me, and hope that Zodac didn't choose me. If he did, he also probably chose someone major and important to eliminate. Epig, what was his win condition in Masters?

B: Don't vote for me. I walk free until the next day.

Rinse and repeat.

Do you really want to possibly sacrifice someone major and important just to get rid of me? While I'm flattered, if I were in your shoes, I'd think it wasn't worth it, mostly because as long you don't mention my name, I have no powers.

Also, wonder why I wasn't NK'd? Everyone's talking about me. I'm dominating the discussion. Leaving the thread no time to possibly sniff out baddies.

You guys have to make a decision. Vote me, hope Zodac didn't choose me, and possibly lose a big contributor to the thread. Or don't mention my name, and you guys can actually focus on catching baddies and bad indies.

It'd be lovely to have a powerful indy we could trust allied with the civs, but how do we know we can trust you? You're a threat to whoever you want to be a threat to and if you decide to not want the civs to win late in the game there's not much we can say against that.

Oh, such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on

Lizzy wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote: Not much of a case there...

It's rusticate I'm insane, not zanified! to be a case, just uninured observation

So you're making an observation? What is the observation? I'm guessing it's not actually about hermitage balloonery.

Just a perfect day
Feed animals in the zoo

I'm getting sick of this song.

Epignosis wrote:
Why would you exclude yourself? What would have been the consequence of you NOT excluding yourself?

This is why I think he's lying. If he was randomising targets then his targets were everyone. It doesn't make any sense for him to have not randomised particular people.

PS: This curse sucks. More imaginative next time please!

Oh, it's such a perfect day
I'm glad I spent it with you

Epignosis wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

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Love,
Mongoose

* Votes OK bishopdom Planter

PS Map Killing S~V~S already? LAME.

I wish you hadn't voted the way you did, but I can tell why you voted as early as you did.

is it Red Rook electrolier firstclass?

Piranha Plant - [Classic Super Mario Bros.] – Secretly chooses a number every odd night. The person to vote in the subsequent Day poll that corresponds with that number is killed (Non-players and dead players can absorb this kill!).

That's the why. I can't imagine the PP picking 2.

Good point. Too much risk that it'll go to MP or a dead/non. I'd guess they picked something between 10 and 20, based on the logic we used in Mario.

Just a perfect day
Problems all left alone

Mongoose wrote:Poop on a pineapple. kill honeytongued am going recumbency Illyria in the Map all incredibility tomorrow assemblyman a procedure, indigitate if we Crude Yacht doing a 24-hour saggittary then I alphabetarian going Seductive Ghoul alms ahead and vote now. I think it's pretty supersaturate what we are up periculous so why dilly-dally?

Love,
Mongoose

* Votes OK bishopdom Planter

PS Map Killing S~V~S already? LAME.

Looks like a lot of people are gonna be cursed today. Some curses are really lame. Also lame is SVS dying so early. I hadn't seen the usual stuff that makes me think she's bad either so even worse we may have lost a civ.

Oh, such a perfect day
You just keep me hanging on

Devin the Omniscient wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

I did not play a lot of these games, I modded Bioshock & MOTU, for instance, which i know were pretty epic games to play. Looking at the baddie roles, is there anything someone who did not play the games those roles represent should know?

To you? That Indis and Neutrals can win with civs

If the big daddy ever fails to kill someone there's a chance he's betrayed his team and will slaughter them all at his earliest convenience. The Pirahna Plant is actually a pretty big threat that we should hope dies early on. It was an asset to our team in Mario, and I'm not sure how best to combat it here given this game has like twice as many players. Those are the only baddies whose games I really played.

Hedgeowl wrote:
Looks like Bullz, Kate, and I are the Uncultured Brutes. Maybe our band name?

Can I be the drummer? I've never even touched a set of drums before in my life but it looks like a lot of fun!

Hedgeowl wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

This does not bode well.

So he's got a machine, right?

And it studies all the words we use in all the websites we play Mafia on to determine who is bad.

Never mind that we only played two Mafia games on Prog Archives in like 2009.

And never mind that many of us use different usernames across different sites.

And never mind that people as players change over time.

And never mind that words have different contexts depending on how they are used.

And never mind that his data sample is ludicrously small for such a project.

And never mind that shit Nev said that was over my head.

And never mind that Mr. Supercomputer should know that I'm a DUDE.

Don't let a liar ruin your evening.

I didn't thanks.

DF - the speculation is That Guy could be Media and we should stop referring to him by name. Epi flaunted that idea mightily and I didnt think about it too much. I am inclined to think this was a poor choice on our parts. He did asked to be called That Sexy Motherfucker, but I prefer to use Sexy Mofo or That Guy now.

Do the lyrics That Guy is posting mean something to anyone?

I think maybe tomorrow we should vote for Put Identity in a Location without actually saying anything. Just cast votes if that's who you want to vote for. If you want to vote someone else, then discuss it obviously. But if you want to lynch Media, speak not the name!

Also the lyrics mean nothing to me. I guess we're both sick, uncultured brutes.

Mongoose wrote:RE: a lot of today

I am collecting a vast bag of pretty glass orbs, so please come see me if you have lost your marbles.

I don't even

Can't be mine, don't think I had them even when I first started playing.

I think I'm actually gonna vote INH. I didn't think the whole software system thing was suspicious in itself (if true) but the SVS stuff really seems weird. He calls her out for doing something she always does, is kinda mean about it, and acts like her saying something she's always said is really suspicious and then votes for............ Dom. Because the system of questionable validity told him to. Even though he said it wasn't a good idea to use it on day one. You want weird? That's weird.

*Votes*

Kate wrote:I never saw the scan of the Piano games.

There's probably a very good reason for that. I've never seen a bright green elephant riding a unicycle in an ice rink.

I would never call you an idiot, but apparently you're not very observant.

insertnamehere wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I'm getting crucified in the thread, because some people are idiotically thinking that I'm Media. We need to stop worrying about the Media role. My role, at least was heavily changed from it's original.

S~V~S wrote: And as far as i am concerned, an Indy is a baddie Lite.

S~V~S, I really thought that you would know better then that. That's the most stupid thing I've read in the whole thread. In fact, it's so stupid, it's really making me question your allegiances. Usual smart S~V~S would never say something like that. Once again, why are we focusing so much on Media? You know, instead of BOB, or the actual Baddies! Me being framed for an unimportant indie role, and that all of a sudden making me Public Enemy No. 1 is weirding me out. Someone wants to shift focus from BOB, or the Baddies, and a lot of other people are happy to oblige.

I don't think you're Media (or necessarily even bad), but it's kinda harsh to call people idiotic or stupid for thinking it. SVS distrusting indies is actually pretty standard for her in my view. Pretty sure she didn't shed any tears after we lynched fairly neutral Llama in Shawshank. Personally I'd rather be looking for baddies than indies/neutrals in any case. If they can win with civs they're no threat, but if the thread turns against them why would they want to?

I think that S~V~S is a very smart and intelligent lady, which is why her saying something as stupid as that makes me very suspicious.

It's an opinion she has consistently held for at least as long as I've been playing. Consistency is suspicious?