The Syndicate

Meanwhile I am equally happy with an LC or Ambray lynch at this time. They are both sketchy af

I'm hella down wit Epi's hip jargony criticisms of LC and I don't like LC's reason for voting Sloonei. Fake fake fake


Glorf, you're wrong about me, my thought process was completely natural. More proper response forthcoming

I also want to hear more from Ambray because I don't think she has the context for all this Glorf stuff and she seemed to misunderstand what was going on and just followed Kyle's vote. :\

Glorf, I wouldn't have mislynched you if you had simply said that you were holding to what you said about avoiding questions of alignment. You didn't have to say "I am town." I would have moved my vote if you had simply acknowledged that you were avoiding it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:08 pm

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm Very well. I’m putting an end to this nonsense once and for all. If no one could’ve guessed, THIS game means a great deal to me (perhaps more than any other that I’ve played here at the Syndicate) and I am not going to let those disingenuous amongst you use my reputation and meta against me here. Yes, I AM TOWN! You can take that to the bank or wherever else you damn well want to - I’m not going to blissfully be mislynched by the forces of #*^%ing Mordor! I’d said it before, and this game has proven it to me now - my continued presence in these games has become truly untenable. Accordingly, please don’t expect that I’ll be returning for The Two Towers (as much as that pains me). I’ll have more to say on this matter once this game is ended.

In the meantime, I’m not buying Nutella’s twisted logic for voting me so here... have one of your own!

I don't think I'm alone in saying that it's a treat to get to play with you, so I hope this sentiment is not permanent. I think we can all find a place where your personal convictions do not interfere with gameplay with more experience.

That said, tell me more about nutella. What parts of her logic seem twisted to you?

yeah I really didn't want you to feel forced into breaking your vow and as you could see I was reconsidering my stance based on that, I was just waffly. I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings but what was "twisted logic" about my thought process?

back to sloonei bc I agree with mac

also I still don't understand the votes on me! LC's reason didn't make any sense and neither did glorf's idr if nova explained his

well damn

if you couldn't hold to your vow what'll you do when you draw mafia

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:17 pm @nutella I'm not sure I follow your thought process RE: Glorfindel. On the one hand you say his behavior is NAI, but in the same sentence you add that it gives you a bad feeling. What's the bad feeling is his behavior doesn't indicate anything about his alignment?

My thought process was
-> He hasn't stated that he's a civ! He's avoiding the topic, and knowing Glorfindel, that means he's bad!
-> He's asked directly, and responds "Are you serious?" He's soooo obviously bad
-> Oh, apparently he said previously that he would avoid the question either way in future games so as to not make his alignment unfairly obvious
-> Still, he could be taking advantage of that (i.e. drew a mafia card and is lucky he had this excuse ready) and his blatant refusal to answer the question gives me a bad feeling
-> Still again, he could be a civ legitimately standing behind his plan not to answer (after all, he is nothing if not a man of his word.)

And cycling back and forth between those last two steps. Still, I think it would have been prudent of him to point us in the direction of his previous avowal, since it was in a different game and only you made the connection, to ensure that we understood his motive for not answering the question, rather than just saying "are you serious?"

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:39 am

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:41 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:58 am pressure vote on Glorfindel

Why would you do such a thing, my friend? This is no way to summon the presence of this High Elven Prince!

Are you mafia?

Are you serious?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:07 am nutella, I can see you're shaking things up here, you're probably like "I always get lynched for blah blah, so fuck it, I'm just going to do this instead!: or something, but you're making me so very suspicious. You are my oldest Mafia friend and I love you, but I'm voting for you as well.

what exactly is suspicious about my behavior?
I'm going for more or less the same "fast-and-loose" play that I've employed on Day 1 in my last few games. It's fun to just say shit and get engaged in the thread and throw mud around.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:19 am I believe Glorfindel has stated that he won't be answering questions about his alignment because that takes the fun out of the game. I get nothing out of his non-answer. But I would like to know what he thinks of kyle and mac for their treatment of him. Glorfindel

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:22 pm From Mortal Kombat:

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:11 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:08 pm Oh by the way, Glorfindel, I totally took advantage of that in the Mad Max game and it was lame of me to do that. I never properly apologized. Sorry buddy!

Again, there is no need to apologise, Jay. Of all the people I’ve met playing these games, there is no one whom I hold in higher regard than you for your intellect, reason, passion for the game and your integrity. You did what you felt you needed to do and it worked out for you - and I respect that. I do think however that it was a potentially a risky strategy (had I actually been Town). I will likely return to my policy of permanent non-declaration of my alignment after this game so whilst it worked out for you in Mad Max, I’d counsel you to think twice in future.

And just like Chuckles, I’m thrilled to be back here, in a game with you, my friend

hmm ok. if he said before this game that he'd be doing that then maybe it's NAI that he won't answer, but it still gives me a bad feeling.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:58 am pressure vote on Glorfindel

Oh shit good point. He hasn't said "I am town" yet.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:45 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:29 am let's start the day with a pressure vote on sloonei bc i feel like it k

Why do I need a pressure vote?

U been tryin too hard man

let's start the day with a pressure vote on sloonei bc i feel like it k

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:54 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:30 am Does Mac's eyerolling behavior indicate anything about his alignment?

Huge town tell

Are you awarding me a town tell or telling me your behavior is a huge town tell?

Stop pretending you are town

Oh is the post ending in the shrug your answer?

Jack, answer Sloonei's question k

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:13 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:05 pm Hot take ambray and sloonei are scum mates gg

Tell me more

you're asking all these questions to the point of sounding fake

idk the chance that you're actually teammates is probably pretty low, especially with all this interaction right after the game thread opens on day 0, but still I could see it as a possibility based on this behavior. and making a bold assertion like this should stimulate the discussion. hence the hot take

U bad

That was my initial take on it.

so you suspect me? why?

Your post is rife with hip jargon that I don't feel is natural for you. That's not how you usually talk, is it? It just pinged me as possibly forced and fake.

you mean like "hot take" and "gg"? lmao I talk like that all the time in discord/when I'm feeling casual and goofy. I'm just saying whatever I feel like man.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:53 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:33 pm i also don't think we should be so relaxed about roleclaiming. doing it helps the mafia narrow down who frodo is, and the role list also has additional civ roles "intended for mafia claims" so i don't think roleclaiming should even necessarily be a reason to trust someone.

You're bad too btw.

2 scum found.

why do you think Kyle is bad? He's expressing a very civ-minded strategic thought in this post

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:00 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:05 pm Hot take ambray and sloonei are scum mates gg

Tell me more

you're asking all these questions to the point of sounding fake

idk the chance that you're actually teammates is probably pretty low, especially with all this interaction right after the game thread opens on day 0, but still I could see it as a possibility based on this behavior. and making a bold assertion like this should stimulate the discussion. hence the hot take

U bad

That was my initial take on it.

so you suspect me? why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:51 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:06 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:51 pm nutella is bad. Confirmed.

No. I'm not bad. You're either making shit up (about a role that doesn't even have a power) or you for some reason mysteriously got false info on day 0. I'm gonna go with making shit up. Whether that's for a discussion-stimulating pro-civ motive or a scum anti-civ motive is yet to be seen... but if you want to lynch me it will only hurt the civs.

Nah my red peek says that it is definitely not false info in the PM.

Well all I'm saying is if you lynch me you're gonna be disappointed.

Unless you're bad of course. Then it's all fun and games.

"red peek" means info that someone is bad (a "green peek" is info that someone is good)

and yeah, based on the wording in the OP, the mafia know which roles are not in the game and are thus available for them to claim (I've played one or two other games with this mechanic -- in Mass Effect I was on a baddie team and we were told which roles we could safeclaim)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:51 pm nutella is bad. Confirmed.

No. I'm not bad. You're either making shit up (about a role that doesn't even have a power) or you for some reason mysteriously got false info on day 0. I'm gonna go with making shit up. Whether that's for a discussion-stimulating pro-civ motive or a scum anti-civ motive is yet to be seen... but if you want to lynch me it will only hurt the civs.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:39 pm I am Merry and I got to start the game with a red peek on nutella.

lol what

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:58 pm Yeah imo the "Good luck !" post is suspicious at face value

Is it because of the superfluous space?

No. It's just... weird to say good luck. Like it sounds like something who's not playing the game would say, or maybe like a civ on their deathbed? It just... came off weird.

Yeah imo the "Good luck !" post is suspicious at face value

Hahahaha. Good one

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:45 pm Good luck !

what does this mean

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:05 pm Hot take ambray and sloonei are scum mates gg

Tell me more

you're asking all these questions to the point of sounding fake

idk the chance that you're actually teammates is probably pretty low, especially with all this interaction right after the game thread opens on day 0, but still I could see it as a possibility based on this behavior. and making a bold assertion like this should stimulate the discussion. hence the hot take

U bad

nah bro

Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:21 pm

Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:03 pm

Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:00 pm Lolololol. Here we go.

Not I'm not new. I started playing 10years ago on LP and have played on various sites since with several people here. But it has been a long time since I last played, excluding the speed game or whatever you called it I played on here the other night.

And if Kyle talks about SoFi, he's talking about me - that used to be my name....

I also like to lynch him a lot. For giggles.

What do you think of nutella's reaction to your counterfeit n00b card?

I said it purposefully as a nod to saying the same thing in the burglary game and her reacting the same way.

What is your read on her right now?

That it's like an hour into D1 and I don't have one.

it's not even D1, it's D0, D1 won't start until tomorrow evening

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:19 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:05 pm Hot take ambray and sloonei are scum mates gg

Tell me more

you're asking all these questions to the point of sounding fake

idk the chance that you're actually teammates is probably pretty low, especially with all this interaction right after the game thread opens on day 0, but still I could see it as a possibility based on this behavior. and making a bold assertion like this should stimulate the discussion. hence the hot take

Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:03 pm

Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:00 pm Lolololol. Here we go.

Not I'm not new. I started playing 10years ago on LP and have played on various sites since with several people here. But it has been a long time since I last played, excluding the speed game or whatever you called it I played on here the other night.

And if Kyle talks about SoFi, he's talking about me - that used to be my name....

I also like to lynch him a lot. For giggles.

What do you think of nutella's reaction to your counterfeit n00b card?

I said it purposefully as a nod to saying the same thing in the burglary game and her reacting the same way.

oh really lol I don't remember that

Hot take ambray and sloonei are scum mates gg

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:55 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:52 pm also ambray is not a n00b and earns my eyebrow for claiming to be

What can you tell me about her?

well looking at her posts on this site, she played in two games a few years ago plus the most recent burglary, but I know that other than the burglary she hasn't played in a few years. but yeah she comes from LP like me and kyle, and played on a couple other sites like RM and the piano back then. So I guess she has some right to feeling like a noob on the syndicate specifically, not knowing most of the players and not having played for a long time

also ambray is not a n00b and earns my eyebrow for claiming to be

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:34 pm

Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:10 pm

Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:30 pm THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS TO.....


Spoilers.

Greetings Ambray! I don't believe we've ever played together. What can you tell me about your mafia background?

*Shows n00b card*

I have one of these and I think lynching Kyle is always a good idea.

Ah, so you've identified his tell too?

Are we doing this whole song and dance again?

eyyoooo