The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote:Gut feels right now. Order does not matter.

DO NOT LYNCH:
Dyslexicon
Marmot
Epignosis
JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con
speedchuck
nutella

MAYBE SOMETHING PARANOIA:
MovingPictures07

MAYBE LYNCH:
Luke11646
insertnamehere
DrWilgy
Elohcin
FZ

Long Con wrote:Hi MP! You're probably bad k

Epignosis wrote:All right nutella.

speedchuck

speedchuck wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:JaggedJimmyJomps has been hacked by Vomps!

What a twiiiiiiiist!!!

Mafia, plz don't kill me early. I had to move away from my Wilgette and need this to keep my mind busy.

(and I'm still most definitely a doctor... just a zonked one...

So, who is bad?

Elohcin wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I also like the way LC handled all of that conversation, looking into it more intently.

I'd say I have two town reads already then. Cool.

What about me? What about me?

I can't fully explain the gut feel, but these two posts gave me bad vibes. Wilgy addressing the mafia sounded suuper fake, which may have been the point, but my gut doesn't like it.
I also just get the willies anytime someone begs for an early read from a trusted towny, probably even more so when it's masked by jest.

These two posts seem jokey, of course, but I get a non-genuine feel from them. And on D1, that's enough to shove someone to the bottom of the heap.

Epignosis wrote:

nutella wrote:Epi I am not bad. I'm not sure how I can convince you at this point but you are barking up the wrong tree.

As for my own reads, I don't really feel like much has changed since my earlier post. I have to reread the FZ-MP exchange to see where I stand on that, but for now I am still leaning civ on MP.

Mild scum read on Luke for jumping on with a vote for me. Seems like a convenient/easy vote for a baddie. Wilgy acted similarly but gave an empty meta-based reason, which is suspicious at face value except it's Wilgy so who knows.

Since I don't think I mentioned speedchuck before I'll add him to my tentative civ reads as I'm getting a good vibe from him so far. GTH bad reads are FZ (but still need to look into that), Elohcin, Luke, and maybe Wilgy (though I always suspect him and always fear his wifom).

Luke admitted his vote was convenient. He's basing it off what other people say.

You left MM out of your analysis, and he voted for you right after I did. Why? What do you make of his vote for you?

DrWilgy wrote:Just considering the flow of votes, this is more likely a save than a bus.

Oh well.

Long Con wrote:

nutella wrote:Epi I am not bad. I'm not sure how I can convince you at this point but you are barking up the wrong tree.

Every time I feel like saying someone is "barking up the wrong tree" I stop myself... because at some point, it was seen as, well, something baddies say. I may have gotten caught by it once... maybe just scared for my life. But I always remembered.

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I am continually amazed that the #1 FEB on the site leads more lynches than anybody else.

Aww... Epi is bad again.

speedchuck wrote:Ooh, that's a better nutella case. I like it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

speedchuck wrote:Most of my reads are based on what others have said, as well as my sense of when posts feel really fake or genuine. Those feels are what sends my nutella read higher than Epi's, and my Wilgy/Eloh reads lower than most.

Elaborate on this bolded/underlined stuff if you don't mind.

I originally thought the nutella case was off the mark because I had a different nutella meta read. I had a replacement nutella meta read, from my one game with her. This feels like replacement town nutella, which... based onn these other metas, doesn't look as good.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Can you elaborate on your Marmot read? I can never read that guy.

This early game, I'm basing a lot on meta. Marmot doesn't feel like he did when scum. He also seems to be putting forward good effort, I see in my linkis.

Marmot wrote:You forgot her first post in Phenon, a game that saw civilian nutella with a top-class performance.

Epignosis wrote:

nutella wrote:As usual I'm pretty lost as to where to start and I feel like anyone could be fooling me at this point. I suppose I'm leaning toward civ-reading MP and also agreeing with his civ read of Epi and LC, but those could all be subject to change. I also think Dys and JJJ look good so far. Part of me is tempted to follow Dys's apparent gut suspicion of MP, but as of now I think it's risky because if he is civ he's a valuable one as seen by his early and detailed contributions about strategy. Then again, said strategy post could be seen as sneaky-by-way-of-overt fishing for cop/info claims, but that's kind of a leap. Again I'm leaning civ for him but my Dys read is stronger.

There's so much I find disagreeable with this post.

"As usual." This is a preface to tell us that what follows is superfluous.

"Anyone can be fooling me at this point." At this point? It's the beginning of Day 1. Hardly anyone has said anything to persuade you one way or another about anything.

You are leaning toward MP being good and LC and me as well by proxy, but "those could all be subject to change." Why wouldn't that be subject to change? Why is it important to tell everyone that your opinions could change?

You think Dys is good and by proxy think MP is bad, yet you give no reason why you might disagree with your previous sentence.

I don't know why in the world anyone would think JJJ is good. He has done nothing to warrant that opinion. He is acting like another Syndicate member, which is exactly what he said he was going to do before he received his role.

"Could be seen." Weasel words.

"Kind of a leap." There's no point in raising a perspective and then discrediting it in the same breath.

Overall, this is a huge post full of equivocation.

nutella

MovingPictures07 wrote:

nutella wrote:As usual I'm pretty lost as to where to start and I feel like anyone could be fooling me at this point. I suppose I'm leaning toward civ-reading MP and also agreeing with his civ read of Epi and LC, but those could all be subject to change. I also think Dys and JJJ look good so far. Part of me is tempted to follow Dys's apparent gut suspicion of MP, but as of now I think it's risky because if he is civ he's a valuable one as seen by his early and detailed contributions about strategy. Then again, said strategy post could be seen as sneaky-by-way-of-overt fishing for cop/info claims, but that's kind of a leap. Again I'm leaning civ for him but my Dys read is stronger.

I'm a bit confused regarding these conflicting thoughts. Can you clarify?