The Syndicate

Gn for now

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:28 am
112 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 7:44 pm uhh, recanting my seanzie read if it matters at this point

marmot, sabie, dizzy are all good suspects imo

and i could easily see BK as a wolf in this one
112 didn't have many interactions with Dizzy, but Neeko doesn't think a wolf puts 2 partners as immediate suspects D1.
At the very least Sabie and 112 can't both be Mafia otherwise this post is just really odd play by 112.

Decent data point ty

Idk I really feel like wilgy looks towny today but yeah

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:19 am Actually Dizzy may just spew Wiggly as Mafia.
Their whole approach to Wiggly is odd with calling Wiggly possible mafia and not wanting to get off Ender to vote Wiggly and letting Sean be lynched over Wiggly.

Hmm

Putting my vote back on him for now tbh, need to look more into both him and 112

Paopan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:10 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:09 am I wish town would stop claiming roles but ok
I am on the top train.
It makes sense for me to claim. As for the others, no

But it's still early and you're not even definitely in the narrowed down pool yet. Wouldve been better to wait a bit longer and show your townieness in play instead

We clearly have a good amount of town kp so

He did claim night vig i guess but like, lol

If anyone has another day vig, just blast guillo 100%, before he even posts, no regrets

I wish town would stop claiming roles but ok

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:05 am Oh Jesus I can't unvote

Guess I'm keeping a single vote on Dyslexicon until then

you should be able to

maybe should still look at 112 though, idr her interactions with dizzy or anything

alexa guillo hk sabie, and sure maybe sig, are the votes i am keeping

unvoting wilgy/112/paopan

Man I don't wanna vote for 8 people when there are 5 wolves, most people are towny enough tbh

Oh you mean about picking players? Nah idts

In fact I think I believe him and wanna unvote

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:01 am Also pretty sure Pao just slipped but maybe people have brains who work different than mine idk

Wut

Btw do we know if we would learn the wolf captain on their flip or not?

Bc I'm thinking, hypothetically a team of Marmot/Dizzy/Guillo/Alexa seems likely handpicked players, and pretty likely the picks of Dizzy himself

But idk how worthwhile this line of thinking is

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:56 am So like, we can choose to not yeet me now right?

Yeah maybe

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:55 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:54 am
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:52 am The only thing is Neeko still isn't convinced wolf Alexa just posts that she has info on Nutella's role without Nutella also being a wolf.
So if Alexa is wolf Nutella is practically confirmed wolf too.
Dizzy was town reading both as well so that is a real possibility.
Lmao what
Well Day 1 Alexa said she has info pointing towards you being scum.
Why would Mafia!Alexa post that if Mafia had a soup kill they could just use on you instead?
It doesn't make sense unless Alexa just lied about having info on you, but you seemed convinced she actually did or if both of you were Mafia staging it.

Like, to see if she could push me, and make herself look towny when she pulls back when I act towny in the face of it? Alternatively bc she could still think I was 3p, she said so herself, and thought she could get some cred for offing a 3p.

I mean maybe it makes more sense that she really is just town and her recognizing I was town was real and stuff but I can easily see that explanation for it.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.
lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:23 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.
lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude
@alexa I hard claim screamer. The alignment and identity of the player that kills me is revealed in the thread. If you are town and wanna be inno child, just shoot me.

It does not work for soup kills though. So there, im dead either way, take the shot and carry us to victory if you are town

alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:25 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:23 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.
lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude
@alexa I hard claim screamer. The alignment and identity of the player that kills me is revealed in the thread. If you are town and wanna be inno child, just shoot me.

It does not work for soup kills though. So there, im dead either way, take the shot and carry us to victory if you are town
@Guillotine is it a full role reveal?

because if so i'll literally just get soup killed

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:30 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:25 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:23 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.
lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude
@alexa I hard claim screamer. The alignment and identity of the player that kills me is revealed in the thread. If you are town and wanna be inno child, just shoot me.

It does not work for soup kills though. So there, im dead either way, take the shot and carry us to victory if you are town
@Guillotine is it a full role reveal?

because if so i'll literally just get soup killed
No. But besides this piece of info is important:

Mod confirmed roles in the thread can never be souped! I run games with soup kills and the first thing i tell scum is that roles or flavor that are mod confirmed in the thread cannot be souped and Nanook has seen them and i'd like to think he learnt from me. Maybe

Is this w/w theatre

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:10 am
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 1:01 amI dont think Alexa has a N0 check.
I think she tried to fake a red check on her own partner and planned to retract it but i happened to ruin their little plan.
You're doing that thing again where you assume others would do pointless crazy shit just for the sake of it, but pretty sure Alexa and Nutella would never do that, because there would be no point to that. Everyone does not play as you do and this theory makes no sense. Alexa's peek is probably real and Nutella has a role that's somehow traditionally scummy, but that doesn't really have any bearing on her alignment. Except it might, cause mafia could pick roles.

Is this w/w theatre

Anyway murder guillo with fire, hold alexa under heavy microscope

"wolf doesn't post a fake redcheck on a villager" :thonk:

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:52 am The only thing is Neeko still isn't convinced wolf Alexa just posts that she has info on Nutella's role without Nutella also being a wolf.
So if Alexa is wolf Nutella is practically confirmed wolf too.
Dizzy was town reading both as well so that is a real possibility.

Lmao what

I think guillo is like, near outed actually by dizzy stuff and not being really towny.

And alexa looks pretty bad on association but want to tread more carefully there. One thing to consider is the whole weird thing where guillo asked her to shoot him and claimed it would confirm her or whatever, could be a weird w/w gambit

but tl;dr guillo feels like a more solid hit and alexa is a maybe

I felt discouraged at eod/sod but now have the hype feeling back that we may have just broken the wolf team wide open and could potentially even be onto deepwolf alexa and it's exciting

Mvp ilario

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:46 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:57 am Scum can pick roles or players. If I had to pick, I’d definitely pick roles. Seems way more powerful, and picking people just seems like a ehhhh kind of mechanic. But that’s just me.

Picking the mafia team was done once at PerC in a game where the IC was mafia. Yeah. Think about that lol
This may also be an important post to note.
Dizzy was against the idea scum picked players.

Dizzy's reads Neeko could find at a glance
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:12 am On page 16 or something

Town:
Alexa
Guillo
Sean
Marmot
Belzy
Ilario

This list could probably be longer, but these are the people I care more about.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:10 pm Alright, if I'm shot by a town gg gl, no hard feelings. Gotta sleep.

Dya
Alexa
Belzy
Sean
Guillo
Alison

Nut
Ilario
Jpic
MR

^towns.

Mmmm alexa and guillo consistently mixed in with otherwise relatively conf towns. My suspicions deepen

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:45 am Opinions on Radishes?

still town imo

dont fully remember what the dizzy interactions there were but yeah

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:44 am i am unvoting myself bc i dont want to throw. sorrym il deal w this tomorrow

lol the crytyping

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:44 am I'm growing more and more sus of alexa but not sure this is the time to consider killing her

Yeah

I genuinely think the dizzy/guillo/alexa associations are worth scrutiny at least

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:39 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:36 am wait @ilario can i ask you, when you said mid d1 there was a deepwolf, who was that
i thought it was guillo but his eod was towny so i got less sure

but then the dizzy flip is bad for him so im back at 50/50

cool

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:37 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:35 am ppl dizzy was voting for
112
drwigly
paopan
sabie
sig
TSP
Does Dizzy bus that people know of?
Instict says she probably voted at least 1 Mafia just from the fact they have 6 votes and distancing.

he does not bus generally, but with the multiple vote mech and with him being under pressure i would imagine he has at least a vote or two on a partner

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:35 am ppl dizzy was voting for
112
drwigly
paopan
sabie
sig
TSP

hmmmmmm

"it is not a green check"

"he's town though"

"nvm mech not strong"

ew ew ew

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:26 pm BTW I have mechanical information that implies we should *not* be killing Guillo today (it is not a green check).

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:21 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:19 pm Add guillo in there too
town, i thought he was maf yesterday but his reaction to me saying i was gonna shoot him + some info i have now, he is town

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:36 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:35 am
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:32 amvote: alexa
nahhhh, dw dizzy snowed me too with the emotional stuff first time we played. theyre a great wolf.

guillo might have had some w/w interactions with dizzy btw

/vote guillo
i didn't even get to iso him and i thought he was being towny, does anyone claim that? but yeah i feel really bad. also guillo can die my mech iss not strong enough to clear him.

ilario is obvious/lock town

BTW this is literally SO inconsistent and maybe just w/w

[VOTE: guillo and alexa] aubergine

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:35 am
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:32 amvote: alexa
nahhhh, dw dizzy snowed me too with the emotional stuff first time we played. theyre a great wolf.

guillo might have had some w/w interactions with dizzy btw

/vote guillo

Hmm maybe I should actually just vote guillo and alexa as a package deal

wait @ilario can i ask you, when you said mid d1 there was a deepwolf, who was that

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:31 am
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:30 am A shot rings out!

@Dyslexicon has died! They flip MAFIA! They reveal as:

Palantir

At night, target any player to learn their role, OR target yourself to learn two random roles that are present in the setup. You may only do this once per game.

Spoiler: show
@ 112
@ alexa
@ Belzy
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
Day continues!
this is my shot

solid work

[VOTE: unvote dizzy and by association mac] aubergine

i have 2 free votes now what do

Amazing

And smh alexa

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:30 am A shot rings out!

@Dyslexicon has died! They flip MAFIA! They reveal as:

Palantir

At night, target any player to learn their role, OR target yourself to learn two random roles that are present in the setup. You may only do this once per game.

Spoiler: show
@ 112
@ alexa
@ Belzy
@ c4e5g3d5
@ Creature
@ DrWilgy
@ dyachei
@ Dyslexicon
@ falcon45ca
@ Guillotine
@ hollowkatt
@ ilario
@ Justplayingitcool
@ LinearPoint
@ Master Radishes
@ nutella
@ Paopan
@ Phil and Gloria
@ Porscha
@ sabie12
@ sig
@ Sloonei
@ TonyStarkPrime
Day continues!

WHAT HOLY SHIT LMAO

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:22 am
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:19 am [VOTE: mac] aubergine

feel weird voting both mac and dizzy bc i really think they are diff but i keep waffling on which way so am fine with them both being on the table
haha i knew you were evil, fucking knew it

baby i was born this way

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:21 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:09 am @nutella

Towncore is me falcon Sloonei you, if you had to draft one more person who would it be
nutella do the thing

what

i mean

uh

belzy/porscha and like probably alexa/ilario

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:08 am
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:51 pm I want the guilty on nutella to be legit

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:53 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
???

yeah this was exhibit 1 of concern c4 is struggling with tmi

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:05 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:07 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:05 pm Hi, my name is DrWilgy, and I am most definitely a doctor.
Hi Marmot, my name is DrWigly, and I am most definitely a doctor.
Again wondering if this is a wolf theater interaction

common site meme so meh

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:05 am
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:06 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:05 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:04 pm imgay
Do I win something
yes, a vig shot
???

uhhhh wait thats wild

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:49 pm JPIC is meh. Like, I only remember c4 shielding them.

fwiw I also thought jpic was pretty damn towny

[VOTE: mac] aubergine

feel weird voting both mac and dizzy bc i really think they are diff but i keep waffling on which way so am fine with them both being on the table

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:47 pm sig is like a total null I'm wolfreading because of the lack of options

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:48 pm I'm back at doubting DrWilgy flips wolf, but meh

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:48 pm I vibe with most of creatures takes

This tbh

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:36 pm Meh

Looks to me Urist wanted LinearPoint

but his reasoning was ass

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:19 pm c4's posts give off the impression that he is struggling to come up with arguments for people to be mafia.

Is this observation fair or unfair?

I don't mind that he focuses on townreads. I do mind that his townreads have no good reasoning. Those hk posts did not sell me on any townieness of thought process. But to be fair c4 often has reads like that that I can't really grok.

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