The Syndicate

oh yeah the wilgy kill was kinda funny, i didn't agree with it at the time bc spf was pushing him but i was gonna die and didn't want to change the decision and cape was offline for the rest of the phase so i let it happen but felt like falcon was the safer choice

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:04 pm I was gonna push SPF the next day then submit they might be giants just to cosplay as SPF lmao

that was my plan if i survived

i tried a fair amount of song gaming on the days i was up lol, like i put in lady lamb to cosplay as spf and then made sure she still got in the battle with my extra vote because if she wasn't in it she would absolutely know which was mine and push it

was sooooo close to winning that battle til the very end ggs

this game is such a farce why are we still not killing the wolf

istg if tsp didn't submit a song and just dies

or not wowee

@TonyStarkPrime vote spf so she gets put in the battle against us?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 8:01 pm fmpov ppl are being too chicken about voting spf but her approach to me is just not how she would behave as town

Thoughts on Cape?

i have some concerns about him but don't really think he and spf make sense together and i'm pretty sure spf is wolf atp

the sheep interactions were bleh though tbh

but we should just get spf first and assuming there's a third figure that out after

there are some interactions that could pair tsp with her but he feels townie rn and lorab doesn't

her arguments were reductive and convenient and lacking nuance, in our big back and forth about the robyn thing she just kept glossing over my perspective because it didn't fit her narrative. idk how else to make you guys see this but the more i think back to that conversation the more sure i am she's just mafia

fmpov ppl are being too chicken about voting spf but her approach to me is just not how she would behave as town

wilgy i just don't know what to do with anymore. there are aspects of his play that i do associate more with his wolf game but just not sure he makes sense with sheep

i can't really see spf town worlds though her singular focus on me is so antitown/counterproductive so

still my most preferred vote

spf/lorab
spf/tsp
cape/tsp
cape/lorab??
spf/cape???

rolling these worlds around

taking falcon as town again for today and at this very moment leaning tsp town

wilgy is uhhhh idk

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2024 4:04 pm I'm ok with a TSP Lynch. I just reread his posts, which didn't take long because they are almost all one line, and he doesn't feel civvie to me,

He came in several mafia days into the game, without any explanation, and just stated that he's obviously town--which, well, he isn't. Also, his early posts seem to not actually care about catching up with the game, but was feigning that--perhaps because he was getting a good review in BTSC.

I don't have time to fully think this through right now. But I'll be on tonight.

really don't like this post it feels slimey

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:59 pm Given Porscha's flip, I think it looks good for Wilgy as well (assuming cape's Maf)

trace this connection for me?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:21 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:54 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:43 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:57 pm I fear for my life choosing songs tbh. gonna have to like, pick some of the most popular ones of the musicians I like to appeal to the masses here I think lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:04 pm or maybe I go independent. I dunno
Is the simple action of talking about this, providing hint at what you pick? This is the real speculation. (porscha w btw)
no it is showcasing my indecision (wilgy w btw)
i like this post (there's a thunderdome between wilgy & porscha now btw)
are you trying to force a thunderdome...

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:54 pm Also if you like both falcon and Porscha, wouldn't you discourage a thunderdome?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:57 pm Wish I could say more about... anyone else but meh

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

We need more people to wake up

Why do you follow up this pressure on Sheep w/ a vote for SPF?

This has never sat well w/ me

ohh right hmm

okay so it's probably one of cape or spf and not both

my poor ego if spf was town all along...

ok im rereading capes sheep interaction bc yeah

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:44 pm Nice, easiest game of all time!, I knew the timing of that was sketch

Sheep's readslist was so all over the place and ??? looking

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:40 pm TSP, Lorab, Cape

I'd like to hear what @DrWilgy @nutella @staypositivefriend think of those 3

tsp lean town for bad reasons
lorab lean wolf
cape has trended down

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:33 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:27 pm I still kinda think the third is lorab, she's had like a weirdly rigid vibe all game and has seemed to be feigning investment in anything since LC flipped

but i could see an argument for like everyone else too lol

I feel Lorab has played an excellent town game overall, but felt suspiciously outside the town vibe last RD

what did you make of tsp calling you out as being in wolf meta and then stepping back his confidence?

i do think you dropped off after d1

@staypositivefriend claim prize pls

I still kinda think the third is lorab, she's had like a weirdly rigid vibe all game and has seemed to be feigning investment in anything since LC flipped

but i could see an argument for like everyone else too lol

I'm alive and we got a mafia I'll take it!

I guess SPF got the prize even though my song was better tho tbh smh but at least she's on the poll

i think pyxxy was right and spf/sheep are teamed so i will continue to [VOTE: spf] aubergine

we got this

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 3:07 pm Yes I'm adding my extra vote to spf so as of now there would be 3 contestants
also this contegency

@nutella if you're town and I'm wrong about you, would you mind using your bonus vote on Sheep?

tbh i would rather keep it on spf. battle of 3 increases my own self preservation chances and if sheep is indeed a wolf along with spf then it's 2/3 wolf vs 1/2

it made sense that wolf spf would want to be able to get both of our misyeets

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 4:22 pm @staypositivefriend hey I see that you voted last night for Cloud Cult but I don't see why?

Did you think that was Long Con's song? Or did you think it was Nutella's song?

she knew which was which and wanted to save LC over me, she even said she actually liked my song more smh

Yes I'm adding my extra vote to spf so as of now there would be 3 contestants

wait but that means only 3 people get to vote for the songs hahahha

this way we get to listen to like six songs let's go

mmmmm i would have to consider pyxxy again i think. but otherwise like, sheep/lorab/cape?

sure my reads haven't been good so maybe folks are right on wilgy or cape but there's so much chaos it's almost certainly gonna be two towns up at eod

this game is falling apart lol votes are kinda all over the place

spf is right there being extremely manipulative but yall are throwing darts at vaguely towny slots

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:39 pm Vote: falcon

nah bruv

there I go sucking up to pyxxy's fresh new case again

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 9:42 pm your posts, who you are sussing, and your suspool have been clear, concise, and understandable

it's not about activity it's about clarity

scum wilgy makes his agenda clear so that it can be followed.

hm

maybe

hrmmmmm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:34 am [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

por que?

wow thread so dead

true !

it's still like not based in something factually incorrect though it was the whole attitude that they seemed to have felt off to me and yes it was a subjective assessment that they were uncomfortable even when they initially did ask for the reasoning. but I'm not going to waste any more time explaining to a wolf why it's okay for me to have a squishy feels based read

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:18 pm when you say that robyn refused to engage with porscha's reasoning with any depth, it's incorrect in the sense that:

A. robyn was willing to engage with porscha, but porscha refused to engage with her and shut down her attempts to

B. porscha refused to explain her read on robyn, which means that there was no "in depth" reasoning for robyn to engage with in the first place

now you have shifted your reasoning to: "robyn was being cagey during the exchange", which isn't very true either, since robyn actively tried to ask porscha questions and engage with her during their conversation

now, of course, villagers can be wrong and they can misspeak, but your reasoning to push on robyn here is so egregiously factually incorrect that it shows me that you put no real thought into your push on them, and i consider this to be completely outing for you. and i hope that anyone with basic mafia knowledge would consider it outing as well

whatever this is just bad faith from you because you don't care to see what my interpretation at the time actually was. maybe I misread robyn's attitude toward being pushed but that doesn't mean I couldn't have had that read of the situation in real time and you can't even begin to understand that since you only read it after the fact. you're just pulling whatever justification you can to accuse me of lying about my reads

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:12 pm well if u can acknowledge that your original characterization of robyn here:

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:56 pm they refused to engage with porscha's read in any depth and I thought that deflection was more likely to come from a wolf
was factually incorrect

then im satisfied tbh

i mean sure they asked for reasoning ONCE

but then cut off the discussion

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:11 pm i think that u are disengaging at this moment because you realize that your reasoning does in fact not make any sense and is something u made up to justify ur tunnel

it literally is just how i felt about robyn at the time!! i don't care if it doesn't hold up to perfect logical scrutiny it was a fucking read

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:09 pm porscha scumread robyn

robyn asked porscha why

porscha refused to explain why

robyn said "fine it wouldnt be optimal to engage with your suspicion anyway"

you see this interaction and characterize it as: "robyn refused to meaningfully engage with porscha's reasoning to wolfread them"

this is dishonest and borderline lying

it is not dishonest it is maybe not the clearest explanation but my real organic reaction in my brain at the time the interaction happened, which YOU WEREN'T EVEN THERE FOR, was that robyn came across as cagey and wolfy

this is so circular lol i'm done i just hope the rest of the thread can see how much you are skewing things to make me look silly when i feel like my perspective is completely legible

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:07 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:05 pm .....did you read the robyn quote in there because lol

the reality distortion is too strong
yes. robyn said that it would be suboptimal to engage with porscha about their read on them, altho they tried a little bit

but porscha iss the one who explicitly refused to give any reasoning for robyn being mafia

so how could you say that it's wolfy for robyn to not meaningfully engage with porscha's reasoning

when porscha did not give any reasoning?

robyn didn't push for it and explicitly disengaged!

it's sort of silly to waste so much time arguing about why a flipped villager was so wolfy but your painting of this is so ridiculous lol

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:17 am actually it's suboptimal to engage with suspicion against myself at this stage of the game, so i'm gonna have to ignore you irt your read about me

like?? ???????? ??????????

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 6:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2024 5:56 pm LC seemed to just hop on the vote at a convenient time and his reaction that robyn was being "manipulative" felt made up to me because that wasn't actually a meaningful description of the interaction it was just a buzzword to justify a drive by vote.
also, hard to imagine a villager seeing long con's vote on robym, having this thought process, and then immediately posting this:

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:56 am [VOTE: robyn] aubergine for that interaction with porscha lol

lc wolf if theyre not though maybe
you think that you would not join the wagon on a player who you think is being opportunistically pushed on by one of your wolrfreads, but what do i know tbh

again the sketchiness of robyn's response to pressure stood out as wolfier in my mind at the time idk how else to explain this

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