The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:52 pm Fun little things:

Epignosis and Elohcin both randomly getting Metal. We thought they'd get Temp BTSC night 1 and start the first alliance
Glorfindel getting to be Holy. Perfect for that saint of a man.
Sprityo as Spirit. LOL Spirityo!

I actually thought these were all intentional and you were being naughty not-totally-randomizing hosts.


Fascinating, all the behind the scenes stuff. What a weird, wild game.

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:24 pm Psionic + Holy: Teammate - Holy and Psionic become teammates and gain permanent BTSC. If either of them win, they both win.

After the nutella lynch the plan was to lynch a Psionic (either speedchuck or Quin), and then next lynch have the other Psionic self-vote so i survived, allowing both of them to win anyway.

Ohhh I get it now. Cool.

Congrats guys. I don't understand why you were all able to win together, but it's clear that I didn't have a chance even when I thought I did. If only INH hadn't been lynched, he could have killed one of you and taken us both off the poll so only Tranq would be on it and I thought INH and I would both survive/end in a draw... but you guys wouldn't let that happen because you had Secret Machinations. Oh well.

Bullpoop.

??????

I don't understand, why me over anyone else?

Tranq wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2017 4:03 pmVoted nutella.

Why me? I think we should vote off one of the Psionics.

I'm voting speedchuck

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:49 am Merged with nutella. I've made a huge mistake.

Oh?

I believe that someone else should change their vote to speedchuck. Then everything would be great.

I mean, that is, unless INH totally trolls and betrays me. But he needs me.

OK, joining INH in voting speedchuck. After 30 seconds of thought I've concluded that this is pretty obviously the correct choice.

So if one of the psionics is lynched today, can you fuse with the other and use it against them? Cool.
Also if the psionic is the one who did the targeting last night, I guess it doesn't matter which one (you don't have to worry about alternating your target).

hmmm. Worth considering.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:47 am Hm. I wonder if, every time a holy dies, a player gets resurrected?

Or perhaps nutella combined with something that allowed eventual resurrection? What do you think, nutella?

The second one.


I agree that lynching INH to eliminate that NK combo is a pretty good idea. Breaking up the two Psionics sounds like a somewhat reasonable alternative, but I'm not convinced by any means that they can win together, so I'm more concerned with surviving the night, and as long as Earth and both Psionics are around INH can just alternate them as targets and kill every night (whereas if we lynch one Psionic today we won't know whether it's the one INH targeted last or not, and chances are he'd steer the lynch in the way that would allow him to alternate targets). INH, I'm voting for you now, unless we can strike some kind of deal that involves you killing somebody other than me, because, you know, eliminating other players is always nice.

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:05 am nutella! Do you know who killed you?

According to the post, it was a Psionic/Earth combo, and the way it was written seems to suggest that it was a mutual fusion?

oh hi there lol

Huh. Well, this got weirder.

Well I keep getting ninja'd, lol

Eloh, join us, it gives you a chance at life.

Here's a deal Epi: if you change your vote from INH to one of the other clique members, I will gladly join you. I can't guarantee that anyone else will join or that it will affect the end result at all, but we can try.

Linki: you beat me to it. switching to tranq.

The only reason I'm not lynching INH is that he is (supposedly) providing a direct benefit to me tonight. After that I'm happy to eliminate the clique members. It would have been nice if one or two of them besides INH had gotten votes today, but so it goes.

I personally do not care to lynch Eloh and don't think it's particularly fair to her, but it's not my doing. I'm not trying to do what the clique wants, and I actually agree with most of what you have been saying Epi. I'm just doing my own thing here.

Wait, never mind, changing my vote to Eloh doesn't make sense the way I was thinking because INH's vote count would only matter if Epi's immunity bumps the lynch down to the 3rd result, which I think is somewhat unlikely. Eloh is already in the top two so my changing to her wouldn't change anything.

Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 9:11 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 9:07 pm Nutella can we get you to move your vote from Glorf?

I appreciate the reason why she is voting for me - it's like she's not trying to get rid of me but more a strategy of eliminating options for Epi's longer term survival in this game. The problem is, I think her strategy is wrong as it is based on information I sincerely expect is not accurate.

Oh? You don't think it's accurate? Could you elaborate on that? There's no reason you would know he targeted you, I believe, but if you have reason to believe that Metal fusing with your power wouldn't have that result, I'd be interested. But keep in mind that (I'm pretty sure the hosts have said this) that the combinations can depend on order, so if you asked what you'd get if you fused with metal, it wouldn't necessarily be the same as what he gets when fusing with you.

Unless Glorf has a real reason to think Epi is lying, I have had no reason not to believe Epi, so voting him without also lynching Glorf is pointless.

I'd prefer not to lynch INH though, since I am fusing with him (I assume fusions don't work if the target was just lynched, lol) so my vote stays where it is and possibly the one on Glorf changes to Eloh if there is no chance Glorf surpasses INH. But I really don't understand why everyone wants to lynch Eloh. Where in heck is that coming from? What is the reasoning behind lynching Eloh in particular?

Linki: Lynch end is in 1 hour (more like 45 minutes now), so yes, I think the deadline for fusion has passed.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 7:42 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 7:23 pm Yeah, no. If Epi has a guaranteed one-shot anti-lynch, in a game where kills are unknown abilities that are hard to come by, that's stupid. And even if it's true, what will we do? Constantly kill everyone else while waiting for Epi to win, because we can't lynch him?

Either the game is nice and Epi is bluffing/only lynchproof today, or the game is broken and we need to expend Epi's ability anyway.
I'm convinced.

Well, I suppose you have a point, and we do have another double lynch today so perhaps we could use one on him to use it up -- but then he'll just target Glorf again... unless Glorf is lynched.

With this strategy in mind I will vote Glorf and hope enough others do that he and Epi are the top two, and hope it works. Though part of me is still nervous about the coolgang and wants to whittle down their numbers

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 7:23 pm Yeah, no. If Epi has a guaranteed one-shot anti-lynch, in a game where kills are unknown abilities that are hard to come by, that's stupid. And even if it's true, what will we do? Constantly kill everyone else while waiting for Epi to win, because we can't lynch him?

Either the game is nice and Epi is bluffing/only lynchproof today, or the game is broken and we need to expend Epi's ability anyway.
I'm convinced.

Well, I suppose you have a point, and we do have another double lynch today so perhaps we could use one on him to use it up -- but then he'll just target Glorf again... unless Glorf is lynched.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 7:07 pm All of my fusing results that I'm aware of have produced an immediate effect that occurred the next night.

I'm not aware of any special "use-any-time" powers that have been gained by fusing. Has anyone else gotten anything of this nature?

I got something of a somewhat similar nature to Epi's in that it only triggers if/when a particular thing happens. So I have no trouble believing his.

I suppose I believe your claim about our fusion though as well. I might go ahead and target you today then.

But yeah I'm still hesitant towards your cool gang. Epi's analysis made sense, in that you guys will just pick off the rest of us and so I feel safer when there's more of "the rest of us" to pick you guys off. Though I guess in a way that just means the rest of us are a sort of de facto opposing faction, but only very loosely. There's still a chance I could be convinced to join, and I'd already be giving you a bit of a hand if I fuse with you, but I don't want to enter into any sort of binding agreement as of yet.

INH I don't think you're quite getting it. Epi suggested on day 2 that he had targeted Glorf the previous phase, and gained a lynch immunity (not specific to that day, just for whenever he gets selected for a lynch). Then on night 2 he killed Wilgy. So night 3 he could target Glorf again.

And I do believe that this is all true. If Epi is Metal, then I totally buy that his fusion with Holy (Glorf) creates a lynch-immunity "shield" and that it would be a waste to vote for him.

I might vote for you INH, mostly because you're in the groupclubgang. You could change my mind by elaborating on how you fusing with water would be mutually beneficial.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 12:57 pm I could also vote Nutella. Not sure it's in my best interest to keep her around.

Don't know why you think this. I'm reasonably sure I will not be able to kill again. I don't pose any more danger than anyone else in this game. In fact, probably statistically less at this point, since it's quite likely there are other element combinations still out there that produce a kill that are not snuffed out.

I'm cool with lynching members of the DH posse.

Is that what that's saying? I really didn't read it that way. I read the first darkness as the one I killed because of how it is written with the water and light. I read the part with my name as someone who used some kind of investigation on me and had my name outed in the post somehow.

As to why SVS, she's just the first one who came to mind as someone I wanted to get out of the way in an LMS game, and she seemed to have kind of a posse going so I felt a bit threatened by her crowd control/influence.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 12:51 am Looks like one of the Waters killed DH.

How do you get this though? The part with the water reflecting light to kill darkness is me killing SVS, as I've more or less revealed already. It doesn't say which element it is that kills the other Darkness, but it does say my name which is weird.

That basically outs who I am if you read the post.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 12:51 am Looks like one of the Waters killed DH.

nutella: How did you kill SVS - and can you kill again?

I fused with Light (Jack), and I don't think so because both Lights are gone.

Okay. Never mind. Upon second reading, the post pretty explicitly laid out who did each action (it helps that I know which one I am though). The thing grabbing Darkness is killing DH (the other Darkness besides SVS), so I think the person who killed DH also investigated me.

Actually yeah from the writing it looks like someone looked up my element and got my name, but I don't get the grabbing Darkness part unless that's about SVS.

Holy fuckamole that was a lot.

FIVE players killed in one night. This game is nutso, Long Rock. Day 3 and the number of players is already down to half.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 12:02 am Nutella did you choose to kill SVS or was that a side effect of something else?

I chose.

I'm not sure what the thing saying my name in the post is about though. Maybe someone investigated me or spied on my action or something.

Damn, looks like I missed my chance. Guess I'm dead meat.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 10:50 pm You should pull your Sriracha vote Hazelnut. You could vote me.

why would I vote you? and why shouldn't I vote for sorsha?

looks like sprityo and sorsha are getting lynched anyway

anyway I moved my vote to daisy because honestly idc

right when I voted it showed the sprityo voters as "QuinQuinQuinQuinQuinQuinQuinQuinQuinQuin"

what the hell is going on with this poll

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 10:27 pm Funny that Nutella thinks SVS is scary, but just cast the deciding vote to eliminate one of the only people to speak out against her.

Feels contradictory to me.

i don't know what this means

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 10:28 pm nutella if you want to lynch SVS i would plea you resume voting for Epi

not sure what this means either but I'm not wasting a vote on epi because he's not going to die

alright sprityo, I will unvote you, just for the lulz, but I also don't feel like voting for glorf (partially entertaining speed's pleas and partially think he's worth keeping around for a bit) and again don't want to waste a vote on epi, so I'm not causing a tie and it looks like you'll still have the most, sorry bruh but I don't think I'm affected much by not having you around

but I'll move it off you and onto, oh I don't know...

Almost caught up. Funny that sprityo is spirit. I believe that Epi could survive a lynch due to mixing with glorfindel, it makes sense based on what I know. So I will unvote Epi and vote SVS instead because I'm scared of her.

Linki lol dh idk what your deal is with voting epi but get rekt

Moved vote from no lynch to Epi bc it has more and I don't actually want a no lynch. I was ok with using one of my votes on it if it doesn't have majority bc of speeds reasoning of making fewer enemies but I would rather eliminate someone

OH my goodness there are far too many posts from while I was at work. So sorry I couldn't be around for all that discussion. I'll throw my votes on the top three choices for now and will read as much as I can before the deadline but I'm pretty busy.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 9:19 am Everyone is required to cast three votes by the end of the day. Any votes not cast will be applied to the player who failed to cast them.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 2:38 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 12:28 am Re: speedchuck's btsc situation and the ensuing theories: I would believe that the person who targeted him is Psionic. He seemed to imply that he's not psionic, but I don't necessarily think he implied that he's not the same element as that person, because how would he even know that -- presumably he doesn't know the element of the person who targeted him, he was just given the btsc link -- so Golden's hunch could be true if they're both something other than Psionic. But I think it's more likely that the targeter was Psionic, partially because I know that when my element pairs with Psionic I gain a message sending ability so it would make sense for another Psionic combination to create btsc.

Would you get a message sending ability to anyone you want, or would the message go to the Psionic player?

To anyone.

still reading last few pages sorry

Three votes and two lynches, huh?

Re: speedchuck's btsc situation and the ensuing theories: I would believe that the person who targeted him is Psionic. He seemed to imply that he's not psionic, but I don't necessarily think he implied that he's not the same element as that person, because how would he even know that -- presumably he doesn't know the element of the person who targeted him, he was just given the btsc link -- so Golden's hunch could be true if they're both something other than Psionic. But I think it's more likely that the targeter was Psionic, partially because I know that when my element pairs with Psionic I gain a message sending ability so it would make sense for another Psionic combination to create btsc.