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Lulz. I know it sounds outstanding, but it's true.Ricochet wrote:Champies 2015 - I know stuff and I did stuff that I know and MM, you know I'm right, right, but I ain't gonna elaborate for others: the game
Yeah, that's weird, but I still don't think she's bad.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I know I said I wouldn't vote her, but she had no reaction to Mac getting lynched, and hasn't posted in 30 hours. This is bugging me.
You don't know what I know. That's all that can be said. As for doing a 180 on MM recently, again, you aren't aware of my entire play this game. It's a nice defense, but MM knows why I've done a turn on him.FZ. wrote:Wow, I didn't expect that. RIP BeaDon't understand why the baddies chose to kill you.
Matt, Matt, Matt...
When I saw the results of the night, I was really freaking out on who could be the last baddie. I even thought maybe MM had fooled us after all, but then came your posts and your vote. First, let me say, that a civ at this point in the game would not at any circumstance just go ahead and vote. They would listen to all parties before being so decisive, especially after finding out Bea was a civ who claimed to have known Mac was a protector but she thought he was good. So you'd have to at least consider the possibility that what you know about Sorsha could also be wrong. Yet you don't consider it. Nor do you consider the possibility of MM being bad, after suspecting him all day and pushing for his lynch. Really? Could you be more obvious? So that's strike one for you.
No, I still felt it was bullshit, but I thought it was coming from a good place considering I thought bea was the last mafia. Now that we know she isn't, your story becomes bullshit.FZ. wrote:Then there is this post:
Matt wrote:Sorry, I'm freaking out right now. For real.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oy Matt.
RULES RULES RULES RULES RULES!!!!!
I didn't think FZ was bad either. But now, I've been reading her ISO...Metalmarsh89 wrote:Anyway, I do think you are right Matt. That only possible way, in my mind, that Sorsha is bad is if there is more than one baddie left. But that's not possible.
So it's you or FZ. I have a really hard time thinking you are bad Matt, but I'm going to at least consider the possibilities before the day is done. I had a really hard time seeing FZ as bad as of a couple days ago.
Earlier today, FZ came in with that bullshit story about Sorsha being bad, protecting herself while she used the NK on herself. That absolutely had to be a preemptive strike against Sorsha for when bea flipped civvie or indy/neutral. Had to be.
I'm not bad. I'm pretty effing sure you and Sorsha aren't bad, either. It's FZ.
But hey, I can't exactly rush you here and based on the poll time, we have two days to figure this out. But it wasn't me, dude. Seriously.
After telling me only the previous day this:
He didn't think it was such bullshit then, did he? Just told me he thought this time I was wrong.Matt wrote:FZ - I normally wouldn't rule out what you're suggesting in regards to Sorsha and her protect. In fact, I always like theories like this because I feel "why wouldn't the Mafia do something like that for major cred?" But I think you're barking up the wrong tree here.
Yeah, your voting record is great. You know what else? Up until motel died, the baddie team had a feed each other - lynch votes power. On top of that, twice I think, motel and Wilgy both escaped being lynched.FZ. wrote:I honest to god think Matt is the baddie here.
MM, I know you're thinking maybe I'm bad, but just look at my voting record in the last few days. I've voted for a baddie 5 times out of 5, moving between both groups of baddies. I tried to prevent your lynch on Friday before I left by initiating a motel room lynch. On the only day I was in danger of being lynched, Mac voted for me to add me to the tie. How fucked up would he be to do that to me as a team mate? I would have been so pissed at him had he done that for absolutely no reason. Maybe he's an ass, but looking at how he tried to save his team mates every freaking day, does it sound plausible to you?
Bullshit. This was posted shortly after Golden and Wilgy made their last second switches. I bet Wilgy and Mac were stressin' that Golden actually could've fucked it up for them.MacDougall wrote:Golden is obviously stressed out to the max that he had to vote to save one of his teammates and then Wilgy went and fucked it all up for him and made him double anxious. Golden is bad.HamburgerBoy wrote:I don't get it, what's wrong with a four way tie? For you, someone basically convinced of the towniness of two of the players, I could understand it, but as a general principle what is wrong with it?Golden wrote:I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.
Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.
I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.
Mac points out that it's probably FZ or 3J. No effing doubt because when FZ flipped and flipped bad, Mac could use that to go after Golden.MacDougall wrote:FZ or JJJ ... or *pause for effect* both!Metalmarsh89 wrote:Which one is his teamie?MacDougall wrote:Golden is obviously stressed out to the max that he had to vote to save one of his teammates and then Wilgy went and fucked it all up for him and made him double anxious. Golden is bad.HamburgerBoy wrote:I don't get it, what's wrong with a four way tie? For you, someone basically convinced of the towniness of two of the players, I could understand it, but as a general principle what is wrong with it?Golden wrote:I don't believe it. We actually went to a four way tie.
Officially the stupidest lynch I have ever seen.
I'm actually with fz. Considering asking for a replacement. Are the civs even trying to win? I feel alone.
Sorry, I'm freaking out right now. For real.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oy Matt.
RULES RULES RULES RULES RULES!!!!!
I didn't think FZ was bad either. But now, I've been reading her ISO...Metalmarsh89 wrote:Anyway, I do think you are right Matt. That only possible way, in my mind, that Sorsha is bad is if there is more than one baddie left. But that's not possible.
So it's you or FZ. I have a really hard time thinking you are bad Matt, but I'm going to at least consider the possibilities before the day is done. I had a really hard time seeing FZ as bad as of a couple days ago.
Most in the thread have been saying "bea or matt", as far as I remember, so for me to take out bea would be wicked fucking stupid if I were bad. I did not kill her.Ricochet wrote:Not to be taken the wrong way in regards to bea (sorry), but I don't understand the nightkill choice. She would have made perfect mislynch diversion for toDay. This way, if Matt killed her, he left himself in contention with Sorsha and if Sorsha killed her, she left herself in contention with Matt.
OR all three options (bea, Matt and Sorsha) are actually mislynch bait, with which the baddie is more than comfortable, meaning FZ. is preparing to land the highest form of dunk on us ever.
It wasn't me, Marmot. I'm actually scared right now that you're going to use that special vote of yours on me based on your later "I only trust Sorsha" comment, but I didn't trick you. You know what I've been through this game.Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I have been utterly fooled by somebody. The question is, Who?
Thank you. I also hope you don't vote for me tomorrow. FZ, you have been after me for most of the game. First trying to pin me and LC as being partners, then saying I'm bad because I defended peopleFZ. wrote:Matt, if it means anything to you, I have no plans on switching my vote today.
Dude, he outright ignored the questioning on why he wouldn't vote for LC. And no, me going after Mac for this is NOT the same as you saying "Oh sorsha, oh fz, oh marsh, why didn't you vote LC you must be bad?" Not at all.Ricochet wrote:The problem then is that you either didn't ask Mac, during the Night, about the LC thing, or you didn't criticise bea, during this Day, for her poll option being a non-LC one. Your treatment of the two comes out uneven whichever way you look at it.
Now, how 'bout you quote me that line where Mac says or has something against voting LC on the night poll?
I have no idea if Dom checked you, but that's not why I said the "felt better about you shortly after Dom died" if that's why you're asking.Sorsha wrote:Matt- do you think Dom checked me? I remember I suspected you and him of being teammates for a while there- I sensed you two had some kind of a connection at the time. Then you two started going against each other in the thread & it seemed like more than teammate distancing (and then of course Dom died and flipped civ) so I didn't suspect you as much. I feel like I should be having an "A-ha!" Moment here about you but since everything is so secret in this game I'm not having it.
Anyway- I still suspect Mac as #1, you were just my most likely as his btsc mate if the game doesn't end with his death. Do you think he is the last baddie? I remember thinking something was weird with the boomslang lynch and no one but you seemed to agree. Do you think boom was bad?
Dude, sometimes I don't think you even read the thread. I questioned bea as well on the LC thing the other night. Remember, she kept saying that option 1 wasn't a viable option for her, and that 2 and 4 were better? I'm not sure if bea was bullshitting with that answer, but regardless, that was her answer and there's not much I can do to argue it.Ricochet wrote:Even if it's an absurd level of discussion - at least until Matt clears things up or brings evidence - I don't get why he jumped on Mac solely and not, for instance, questioned bea as well, who fits the description just as much: LC saver, non-LC option voter. I think she even went further as to call the LC option "lame". So yeah, considering my take on D11 is that one or two of the following - bea, Mac, Matt - are the remaining baddies, it looks either hella selective from Matt or he simply had no idea what he's saying and just tried to throw an egg at Mac's face.
I'm super tired and I have to be up in 6 hours and I literally have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sure others will get it, tho, shit constantly flies over my head. Still, I want to see what LC has to say about Mac. Even if it's NOT a rezz, I think it's very possible the host will let the winning option send us a message or something.bea wrote:Matt wrote:I'm really not getting it, I guess.
Does something bad happen to you at position 1? I'm sure other, smarter players can confirm whatever the heck bea is on about, but regardless, I want to know what LC has to say about Mac. If you all choose to go a different way, so be it, but I think LC could be key right now.
Anyway, I work until about 5pm my time tomorrow, should be back a little bit after Day starts, assuming I'm still alive. If I'm not, I very much believe everyone should be looking Mac's way.
Peace out
Linki - That's true, Sorsha. We've been kept from voting position 1 nearly all game because of that. Vote LC peeps. Peace
YO!!MATT!!! here's what I was saying - last night - we had to vote on a bogus lynch poll - why should tonight's rezz poll be any different???
It's all about positions.
And I like positions 2 and 4. Prolly 4 is my first pic. But srrsly - if marshynewt is as neutral as he says - maybe he has the evens powers.
I don't see at all why this is confusing to you. Except maybe you don't want to see it???
Because you showed a night poll with four names, one of them being Sorsha, and said "I'd like to look at the voters of Draconus".Metalmarsh89 wrote:Matt wrote:You'd rather look at Sorsha then bea?
And where, anywhere, did I say the name Sorsha?
I listed 3 names. Why did Sorsha's come up?
You'd rather look at Sorsha then bea?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think we should be looking primarily at the voters of Draconus on Day 9. And they are...
Draconus
4
motel room (13), Sorsha (21), MacDougall (22), Matt (23) 17%
As for the night poll, I haven't decided yet.
Why can't you still be mafia? We have no idea who's on which team. If we knew for sure that Drac was on Noses, then yes, I would be a little more hesitant on you, but we don't know!Metalmarsh89 wrote:You have been a staunch defender of Sorsha. We don't know her role, but she has been linked to Dr. Wilgy.
Your voting me is consistent, but I want an explanation on why you still think I am mafia. With DharmaHelper nightkilled and a team eliminated, we have ruled out a mafia team, meaning up to 4 (I'll assume it can't be more than 4) of the 5 currently dead mafia members were on a team together. You've tried to link me to 3 of them.
Your case is interesting in the way you try to present it, but you forget a few things.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Matt, before you place your vote on me (oops too late) why don't you please address my post to you with regards to Wilgy and explain why I am still bad after everything that has happened.Matt wrote:
A few thoughts...
1) DH was bad. Wow. Rih DH. However, hopefully this means we can lighten up on all of the Sorsha talk, thank you!
2) So Kubrick was never a real role? If that's the case, that doesn't auto clear motel IMO. He still escaped a NK and a lynch by who knows what, and he hasn't even bothered to address the thread about it.
3) Was Epi on DH's team? Also, "Team Epic Noses" = "Team Epignosis" ? Was he like, their leader?
4) Lynch Marmot, please and thanks.
As I've already point out, many of the cases you've made against me are now moot. Answer up please.
You mean like Drac was?Metalmarsh89 wrote:This post?Matt wrote:Lol, comparing me to Boom is pretty low, but alright. Town can't possibly be contemplating lynching Sorsha over MM or motel tomorrow, so whatevs.
Also, as for who is who's teamie...does nobody agree that Wilgy and Lorab were probably teammates? I posted some quotes earlier in the game which I believe points to this being the case.
To be honest, I don't really trust you since you weren't interested in lynching Dr. Wilgy in the first place.
Ricochet wrote:Let's lynch Sorsha. I want Matt to either freak out or finally spit it out what's this Sorsha-b-good all about.
Up until Drac's flip, I'd argue everyone had your back. We know for certain Drac did. DH has called you "clearly neutral". The...CONFIRMED CIV...is currently arguing in your favor.Metalmarsh89 wrote:a. I'm not asking you to understand my own thought process, just to accept it.FZ. wrote:If you think Matt is bad, we shouldn't, but his actions yesterday led me to believe I was wrong about him being bad, and he claims he has good reasons to believe she's not bad. Why would you choose to believe MM over him for example?Ricochet wrote:Why should we listen to Matt about Sorsha? Give me references.
After Wilgy flipping bad (and to some degree, Drac too), I'm done believing people who picked up their game only when they were close to being lynched. Like I said, it's all circumstantial, but there are a lot of them regarding MM:
A. he wasn't playing until we said we should lynch him. Then he came up with the indy role which is as convenient as hell and we all know it. He says he gave up after not being lynched on day 1, but if he failed something, I don't see why that would change when we called him out on it.
b. There's Dom. Matt is right that Dom wouldn't infodump. His Dom quotes support that notion. Dom spoke a lot about MM that day, and maybe he really wasn't able to vote.
c. The LC lynch looks pretty bad for MM with that last minute save.
d. Unlike him, someone is vouching for Sorsha.
I think that between those two, the choice is obvious.
b. I do agree with this point, but that doesn't really say anything about me.
c. LC was also one of my suspicions. It's easy to point the finger at the last second voter, but yours and DH's votes were on that wagon too.
d. If everyone is sussing me, and nobody is vouching for me, how does this make me bad? I'd argue the opposite, the fact that nobody has my back in this game means that opposite, that I do not have a teammate. Why is someone vouching for Sorsha making her a more likely civ?
Turnip Head wrote:Matt wrote:With 9 players and still 2 mafia factions left, that would be pretty dirty of the hosts to not let town know whether this was an actual lynch or not. I don't think it is because I posted asking if it was really a lynch, and they completely ignored the question.
I just realized something...S~V~S wrote:Roger Rabbit - Who Framed Roger Rabbit BADDIE
In position 4, Roger Rabbit can frame a player by making them appear bad to alignment checks.
In any other Position, he may target a player and force them to post using only emoticons for the next Day.
With 9 players and still 2 mafia factions left, that would be pretty dirty of the hosts to not let town know whether this was an actual lynch or not. I don't think it is because I posted asking if it was really a lynch, and they completely ignored the question.juliets wrote:MacDougal why are you voting for me? I thought you just told DH you were wrong about us being teamates (which you were). You are wasting your vote, more than you realize.
I can vote motel room or MM. I am concerned though that as Matt brought up maybe this is not a lynch, even though it says lynch. I don't know why the host would try to fool us like that though. Doesn't seem like something hosts would do.
February 3rd, 5:27 PMDraconus wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:Matt probably didn't bother checking, but Draco actually has more posts than Matt does.
Lulz. Drac "didn't even know that". So what, did you guys forget you already pulled this shtick 3 days previous?Draconus wrote:Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I realize this doesn't say anything about post quality, but there's some evidence that Draco has been an active contributor in this game, even if he's parroting DH. :P He even has more posts than you Matt.
No, I thought he was bad, and made a sarcastic remark on the off chance he wasn't bad. In fact, I will go out on a limb and say that I was the LVP in Talking Heads, so he would've shared good company had he been civ.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Matt, you hailed Draconus as runner-up for LVP. That seemed uncalled for, and a shot at his play this game, which I found to be ridiculous. I would have defended any person you called out as such (except motel room, but I think he would admit you were right). This isn't really game-related material you're talking about.
Keep reading. Marmot and Drac have had each other's backs for days. The LC lynch. Drac takes his vote off of himself, and Marmot votes LC...all last second.bea wrote:Why? I don't see what you are seeing. Explain plzktks! Also - if you could keep it to why *this* result is the one that makes you back down on your word, that would rock.Matt wrote:Bullshit. You're Drac's teammate.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Please don't kill me tonight baddies. I promise I'll behave.
Nope, just kidding. I'm pro-civ. Come at me.
I didn't intend to lie, but after this result, I'm soooo voting for you again tomorrow.
Yeah, I'm actually embarrassed that nobody is willing to follow me. But yeah, I'd be proud if I were you, too. Even the rolechecker hinted at you several times and town still doesn't want to lynch you. Pure magic, really.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Matt, even if I lose or get lynched tomorrow or whatever, I'm still proud of the fact that I have now made it 10 day phases with pursuit from you and many other players, getting votes from you every single day, and managed to still be alive.
No offense, but I think you're wrong.bea wrote:fwiw - this is the post that makes me believe you are not a baddie hiding as a neutral.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I care very much Matt. This is a loaded question.Matt wrote:Marmot, then can you please admit that even if you are neutral, you have no interest in seeing the civs win? You literally do not care, do you?
Yeah, I'd really like for the hosts to answer whether it is or not. Loljuliets wrote:don't feel bad bea i dont know either.bea wrote:what does CDF mean? I feel lame for asking, but it's come up more than once and IDK what it is. So lame queen nub is asking what CDF means and she will feel most nub again for not knowing. So it goes.Matt wrote:Ya know what?
Everyone CFD me please. And then you can shut your traps about Sorsha, like, for realz.
Matt, it says it's a lynch poll - i mean thats how its labeled. I'm betting those of us on it voted the same in the last night poll. I haven't confirmed that though.
linki: thats ok matt
Chinese Fire Drillbea wrote:what does CDF mean? I feel lame for asking, but it's come up more than once and IDK what it is. So lame queen nub is asking what CDF means and she will feel most nub again for not knowing. So it goes.Matt wrote:Ya know what?
Everyone CFD me please. And then you can shut your traps about Sorsha, like, for realz.
I voted you, but let me explain.juliets wrote:I think motel room is definitely bad and have already voted him. So have DH and MM.Matt wrote:Despite the nice result, I think motel could still be bad.juliets wrote:It looked like a switch to me. If it were a lynch stop draco would still be alive.Matt wrote:So, that was a swell result and all, but what...
Lynch switch?
If he's "not playing", then his theoretical team would have to make the switch, right?
If he is playing, and watching the thread and not posting, then chances are he's bad anyway.
I think motel or MM would be good tomorrow.
Tho I'd really love to see MM lynched TBQH
Despite the nice result, I think motel could still be bad.juliets wrote:It looked like a switch to me. If it were a lynch stop draco would still be alive.Matt wrote:So, that was a swell result and all, but what...
Lynch switch?
Bullshit. You're Drac's teammate.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Please don't kill me tonight baddies. I promise I'll behave.
Nope, just kidding. I'm pro-civ. Come at me.
