The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Who killed me, and what was the reason this time?

I deleted all of the PMs, but I think we did.

Turnip said DH redirected at Golden that night, and I know we didn't kill Ham, so that leaves you.

Again, not entirely sure, but I'm willing to bet it had something to do with thinking you were possibly part of Team Epig. We knew we were team Llama, and when we saw Lorab's flip, we were convinced the other team was Team Epig.

I also had a theory that Llama was possibly a secret fifth member of our team, but I think we went ahead and lynched his ass anyway.

S~V~S wrote:Well, had DH not died through host error, he had as good a chance to be a winner as a solo baddie as you did, wouldn't you agree? So I think he is a Winner.

But yeah, those are some sweet banners Thanks LC

I'm not against DH or the Epic crew being winners. Was just laughing at the banner derp.

Sweet banners, LC.

"Winner" Lol

FZ. wrote:

Matt wrote:FZ - Did you get the message saying "juliets has btsc" ? We figured you did, because you were asking about juliets shortly afterwards in thread.

Turnip - What was the final vote count the day Draconus was lynched?

I remember, we were thinking it was actually 5 - 5, but with FZ's vote manip out there, I'm just curious.

The day Drac was lynched was amazing. So psyched with that reveal haha.

I did. I didn't know if it were baddies or someone else who sent it, so I kept asking people what they thought to get reactions and see if I can find any baddies. Didn't work.
By the way, not that I'm trying to take MM's win from him, but man, if he'd just trusted me more than he trusted you when we first started fighting in the last day, it would have ended so differently But I can't blame him. You did a good job on him, not to mention I fell for it later too.

If I didn't get btsc with Marmot, I'm sure I would've been lynched. That was seriously lucky. Funny, I only voted Long Con because I was trying to distance/bus Mac..."why aren't you voting for LC, Mac??? Hmmm???" Lulz

Linki - Turnip, yeah, Long Con getting lynched was fucked. After it happened, I was actually convinced I was right that Boom was a btsc checker, and was trying to target paint him like a motherfucker in thread haha.

As for 3J, I looked at his ISO after we killed him, and I think 9 out of his last 11 posts were arguing with Mac, Wilgy, and motel.

We really did gun for those who were against us.

juliets wrote:

Matt wrote:

juliets wrote:

Matt wrote:Btw, winners of this game are automatically eligible for 2016 Champies, correct?

Wasn't true for last year. I was told it was a special game and did not count.

Btw, Mac was right. You were on point with your abductions. You abducted 3 out of 4 of us!

I just never could get the killer no matter how hard I tried!

On the other hand, you also blocked us, right? Because there was a day that position 3 had won, so we were able to force vote 3 different players, but the forced votes didn't go through. I bet that was a day you abducted either Mac or Wilgy.

FZ - Did you get the message saying "juliets has btsc" ? We figured you did, because you were asking about juliets shortly afterwards in thread.

Turnip - What was the final vote count the day Draconus was lynched?

I remember, we were thinking it was actually 5 - 5, but with FZ's vote manip out there, I'm just curious.

The day Drac was lynched was amazing. So psyched with that reveal haha.

juliets wrote:

Matt wrote:Btw, winners of this game are automatically eligible for 2016 Champies, correct?

Wasn't true for last year. I was told it was a special game and did not count.

Btw, Mac was right. You were on point with your abductions. You abducted 3 out of 4 of us!

Btw, winners of this game are automatically eligible for 2016 Champies, correct?

Btw Sorsha, I'm sorry that you were accidentally silenced, however...

I hope you take that as the huge compliment it was. I wasn't able to target FZ or MM anyway, and I was killing bea that night...so it was either post curse you or don't do anything at all.

I decided that you hadn't been exactly favorable towards me even with me "backing you up", and I was kinda scared you were going to recommend lynching me over FZ or MM.

But yeah, definitely a compliment that I silenced you. Like I said, I didn't want to risk leaving you alone and you bein' all "Okay time to lynch Matt".

Boomslang's lurking...will he speak? Muhahaha.

Marmot, I forgot, I was actually worried when you posted...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I don't know Mac- who would a Matt/FZ team try to kill? Why would they pick me?

Who would you have picked?

I haven't tried working out many players roles as the game went on. The roles are turning out to not be like they were in the original games- powers and alignments have been changed so I gave up trying to figure it out.

I think Mac would pick you. You can take that to the bank. :P

LOL.

I thought "Please don't come in here Sorsha and be like 'whaaaa' " bwahahahaha

Fyi LC, I really did miss the vote on accident the day you were lynched. I think Mac really did want to save you for the cred, but I can't exactly remember. In fact, Wilgy, didn't you really miss the vote that day too, or not? I don't recall.

I think early in the game, only one of us sent in our night powers on night 2 or 3 because we all forgot to send them in lulz.

Also, I think after Lorab was lynched, Wilgy and Mac concluded that Kubrick was bullshit because it wasn't an Epignosis role. Haha. And that Kubrick bs almost completely screwed us near the end there.

Yeah, the pikmin! Lol.

Btw, a lot of people were givin' motel a hard time, but like mac said, props to him for stickin' it out. Dude is literally on vacation and we're begging him to post every now and then and vote. "Nah dude, don't get mod killed!! What a waste!"

One of my favorite moments of the game was Mac "begging" motel to help save Wilgy in thread.

Lol I think Marmot deserves a win anyway.

Btw Marmot, Mac wanted to hold you at gunpoint when I got btsc with you rofl. "Just threaten to kill him and make him join us" bwahahaha. Mac is ruthless.

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Boomslang was:

Frans - Guess Who?~CIVVIE
Each Night, choose someone who may only ask yes or no questions the next Day

Fuck you, Boomslang.

I couldn't stop laughing.

Matt wrote:Btw FZ - Great game. I enjoy playing you btw,

*ahem* I enjoy playing with* you

The other way looks like I'm insulting you, not intended haha.

Yeah bea, I had a blast. Your role looks like a lot of fun, though. Who did you target each night? Or are we waiting for stories from hosts? And no kidding, that SD...

Also, I started this and Lost on the same day and was a baddie in both. It was really strange for me to be teamed up with Wilgy in this and against him in Lost haha. At one point in Lost, I even hinted at our being teamies here by saying "For some reason, I don't think Wilgy is bad this game".

DrWilgy wrote:Oh yeah... My lynch swap into tie was on purpose

I was mashing F5 at the speed of sound and snuck in a vote as soon as I saw Golden swap.

You and Mac were hilarious with that tie business. Even in btsc, trying to plan more ties after that one lol.

Thanks Wilgy for staying on.

Other team was awesome too haha. Btw, I think we just got lucky with Zeebs right? If I remember, we destroyed you Zeebs because we were afraid of you. Lulz.

Linki - DEX EST MOM.

Also, SVS/Turnip told me about how Sorsha shouldn't have been silenced. I felt super bad and towards the end there I tried to get MM to switch back to FZ. I see he did switch for a second.

Hosts - If MM had switched to FZ, would he and Sorsha have won?

Btw FZ - Great game. I enjoy playing you btw, and you were right, I shouldn't have come out of the gate like that on you. But consider, I had just talked MM into believing me so I had to "believe him", and I claimed Sorsha to be good all game so I had no other choice haha. You're an awesome hunter, though. For realz yo.

Also bea, I did not enjoy killing you. You know you're one of my faves but I literally had no other option that night.

Turnip, loved the derp a derp in the night post.

Loved being able tunnel on MM for days on end suspish free

MacDougall wrote:Also Wilgy and I had the never forget banner in our signatures the entire time like come on guys.

It's true though, MM, I didn't like lying to you.

Hi!

So yesterday, 40 minutes before the lynch ends, I had the pleasure of losing my internet lulz. I was trippin' out. It was fixed today while I was at work, and I just now found out we won. I was worried the game was going on and me not talking would lead everyone to believe I'm bad haha.

Wow, amazing game. Thanks hosts!

Wilgy and Mac are cray cray partners, peeps. I don't think this has been mentioned, but if I recall correctly, Wilgy knew Golden switched on the day of the 4 way tie and actually PURPOSELY made it a tie again. Bwahahaha. At least I think that's what happened. Never forget.

Marmot - Dude, I'm sorry bro! I thought you would win with us at the end there, that sucks. Great game not getting lynched ever, despite me howling to the moon about Dom haha. That story I fed you was insane. Ask Turnip, I was so nervous lulz.

Drac - No hard feeling dude. Right back at you, anything I said in game was purely for trying to win purposes.

Wilgy, Mac, motel -

#alwayslistentowilgy

Less then two hours.

Based on FZ's post earlier ("vote for me Sorsha") and then Sorsha's subsequent vote for herself, I'm guessing her vote is worth -1 today.

That brings the count to 1 v 1, a tie*. It's up to you Marmot. It isn't just the the Lorab lynch, but it's also the vote manip. FZ has been letting people defend her lynch choices, despite hiding a vote manip on us. There were two vote manips on the Keeler indy team.

Again, why didn't Sorsha buddy me if I was labeling her civ in the game and she was actually bad? I don't understand her continued suss of me if she's bad.

Were you aware on the day sig was lynched, FZ somewhat lobbied against it? Are you aware of her comments after the lynch?

FZ. wrote:RIP Sig Sorry I didn't fight harder for you.

Can't say this is surprising. I saw the huge bandwagon coming, which makes it hard to look at someone specific, because hey, everyone was wrong, why blame one person?

I stand by my suspicion of DH. Out of all the people who tried to give reasons for their votes (and I think baddies often try to make their vote seem thought through and not just a drive by vote), his felt the most insincere.



Your end of the world talk is depressing me. I think that we will kill ourselves long before nature does.

Are you aware of who the first two voters were for sig on that day? Mac and Wilgy. Are you aware that motel room also voted for sig that day?

And yet, FZ chooses to look at DH. Later on in the day, FZ would suspect Lorab and juliets, and even Boomslang a little bit. She didn't suspect any of Mac, Wilgy, or motel though for their part in the sig train.

Anyway, your call Marmot.

Again, WHY does Wilgy break a VISIBLE (at least) four way tie at the last second?

After Wilgy flipped, I was convinced for awhile Wilgy and Lorab were on a team because of that tie, but that was before we figured out the Noses team.

Why does he break a visible four way tie if none of his teammates were in danger? Even if he did think MM was bad, why break a four way tie where no matter what happens, your teammates are okay?

It doesn't make sense. Especially since Wilgy had his whole "won't vote for Marmot" thing, yet proceeded to vote for him LAST SECOND to break a 4 way visible tie?

No offense, but honestly, I'm talking to MM more then either of you.

I think it's both possible that...

a) bea targeted me last night, thus enabling the possibility of Sorsha being silenced.

b) That there are two vote manips on the baddie team. Again, going back to Keeler Mafia and the correlation of team members.

I dunno. If MM keeps his vote on Sorsha, there isn't much I can do.

But I'm voting FZ. Sorry, she looks bad to me.

Check it out.

There's a four way tie.

Last second, BOTH Wilgy and Golden switch up their votes and make it a four way tie again.

If Wilgy didn't know Golden was switching, then he voted to BREAK the tie.

Why, AS A BADDIE, would you intentionally BREAK a four way tie in which NONE of your teammates are in danger of getting lynched?

Answer me this. Please.

I can't tell you why Mac pushed a tie by voting FZ. I have no idea.

I know Wilgy changed his vote last second, and I have to wonder why. What purpose does it serve to try and get MM lynched last second, if not to save a teammate?

Let's assume that FZ is not a teamie of Wilgy's. WHY does Wilgy change his vote last second?

I keep going back to the day Lorab was lynched.

Despite vote shenanigans, no matter how you cut it, Wilgy changed his vote last second. So did Golden, but Wilgy didn't know that.

3J, Lorab, MM, and FZ were part of the four way tie that day.

3J was civ. Lorab was Noses. Wilgy actually VOTED for MM.

So who does that leave us with?

I'm not saying I'm definitely going to switch back, but you can't ignore Wilgy's switch that day.

FZ. wrote:I think we're at a point where we're over analysing. I get why you're not willing to let what you know go, Matt, but first, look how many civvies were wrong based on information, and second, it does make sense that if one group has something, the other will have that too. Especially since coming back good is a very important power for baddies.

Sorsha is bad, period. If it's anyone else, I'll bow in the face of genius (sadly, that's not me, LOL)

Well, we still have three hours, and tbh, I'm not entirely sold on you being good.

I also think it's possible that wrong information exists, however, consider this...

If I had stumbled onto Sorsha being civvie and she really wasn't, then why did she continue to suss me? Believe me, I've even dropped hints to her in thread that I knew her role, yet she continued to suss me. If she was bad, why wouldn't Sorsha use me as her little civ play toy and buddied me up?

I dunno. I think it's highly convenient that you wanted to analyze everything earlier, and now that we have three votes on Sorsha, it's time to call it quitsies and go home. If there were two vote manips on the Harry Stephen Keeler indy team, why couldn't there be on this game's baddie team?

Linki linki linki

FZ. wrote:

Matt wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Matt wrote:MM - I don't think you've answered. Do you think it's possible Team Llama has an alignment switch? The answer to this question is key, IMO, with regards to Sorsha.

What's an alignment switch?

Zebra's role had some kind of trickery with faking alignments. I'm asking MM if he thinks Team Llama had something similar.

Which would explain why you think she's good...

Perhaps. I also happen to believe I know which game her role is from, which would fit with her being on Team Llama, IMO.

Still, though, is it possible two teams could seem players?

FZ. wrote:

Matt wrote:MM - I don't think you've answered. Do you think it's possible Team Llama has an alignment switch? The answer to this question is key, IMO, with regards to Sorsha.

What's an alignment switch?

Zebra's role had some kind of trickery with faking alignments. I'm asking MM if he thinks Team Llama had something similar.

MM - I don't think you've answered. Do you think it's possible Team Llama has an alignment switch? The answer to this question is key, IMO, with regards to Sorsha.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Matt wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

FZ. wrote:MM, do you have a really goo reason to trust Matt?

Yes, because reasons.

If he's bad, he would have been a fool to try to nightkill you or myself last night, which is why the kill choice points to him.



But this silencing bizness Matt is talking about, I don't understand. He says I should, but I don't.

Let's go through this by steps...

1) Do you remember what I did last night?

2) How is it possible Sorsha is silenced?

3) The only way it's possible, is if bea, using her position 4 power of redirect, redirected me off of a certain someone.

I'm not really understanding how you're having trouble with this.

1) Yes

2) I don't think it's possible, unless she self-targeted or somethign

3) I'm still not sure I follow. I don't believe you have the ability to silence, nor FZ, so no matter how you look at it, I'm not sure this is related.

If there is a silencer, I don't know who it is. All I'm saying, is that if bea REDIRECTED me off of someone last night, based on what I can do, then and only then is it possible Sorsha was even silenced in the first place. That's all I'm trying to say.

If bea did redirect me last night, then I DO think it's possible Sorsha was silenced. You really don't follow me here?

Regardless, I think it's probable Sorsha is faking, based on everything I've been reading for the last hour.

And Rico, I'm sorry dude, but I figure I should use whatever knowledge I have to try and interpret this game, even if it is other forums business. If it was such a problem, I'd think SVS/Turnip would've warned me when I posted the Dom quote about civ rolecheckers the other day.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

FZ. wrote:MM, do you have a really goo reason to trust Matt?

Yes, because reasons.

If he's bad, he would have been a fool to try to nightkill you or myself last night, which is why the kill choice points to him.



But this silencing bizness Matt is talking about, I don't understand. He says I should, but I don't.

Let's go through this by steps...

1) Do you remember what I did last night?

2) How is it possible Sorsha is silenced?

3) The only way it's possible, is if bea, using her position 4 power of redirect, redirected me off of a certain someone.

I'm not really understanding how you're having trouble with this.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Matt is bad: If he is, I believe he would have killed bea, because he knew he had no other option. But unfortunately, this does not explain the Sorsha silencing phenomenon either.

That's not true. I mean, I completely understand what you mean by "no other option" obviously, but check it. If I were bad, I think it's likely I would've targeted you. You then think "It can't be Matt cuz he knows what I got", and then you use your extra ability on someone other then me the following night, after bea is lynched.

Again, I didn't kill bea. Nearly everyone in thread was saying it was either me or bea that's the last baddie. To take her down would be suicide if I were bad.

Linki - Good call, FZ. That makes way more sense then me killing bea. Seriously.

Rico - No, I'm not the silencer. And no, you're not supposed to know what I mean, FZ either. Only MM. Sorry that's the way it's gotta be.

FZ. wrote:I'm guessing at some point she'll just come in and say RL just didn't allow her to post or that she didn't know who she could trust so she let us talk among ourselves so she could get a feel of who the last baddie is.

Actually, if Bea thought you were the baddie why would she redirect the kill if it would only lead to another one of us dying? Could the redirection be shifted back to the person she was targeting? That is the only reason why she would target you, isn't it?

That's what I'm thinking. bea thinks I'm the last baddie and targets me, my power gets redirected, and then and only then, is it possible Sorsha is even silenced.

FZ. wrote:Does anyone really believe she was silenced at this point?

Again, unless bea targeted me, I'm having serious doubts she was.

Lol. I thought FZ was quoting MM there.

But sure, Rico can answer as well, if he wishes.

FZ. wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

FZ. wrote:
linki: Rico, as much as I appreciate you doing this, I don't think it's helpful. I think that what we need to do is think clear and talk live to people. That's the only way you can sense someone. Read the exchange between Matt and I and tell me what you think.

Yeah, ok, you do that. I don't have the vote priviledges (or pressure), I can only provide assistance and this is what I choose to do. You are the actors in this endgame.

Granted, if I reach the end of these reads and there's something I can interpret in yours and Matt's stances, claims, pleads, I'll do so.

Fair enough. I would still like your thoughts on who we should lynch.

Seconded.

Do you think it's possible Team Llama has an alignment switcheroo?

Also, UNLESS bea did target me last night, I have NO IDEA how it's even possible that Sorsha is silenced. Only MM knows what I mean, but wtf.

FZ. wrote:Listen to me, I'm a civvie. I am not lying, this whole game depends on us. Sorsha is not silenced. We got lucky with her vote, and she's scared to post. She let us go at each other thinking this would be the best way to insure a civvie lynch. We can not let this happen. We need this win, we will get this win and please take your vote off me Matt.

Fuck it. I'll temp vote Sorsha until MM returns with his thoughts.

Given how one of our hosts says silencing is his least favorite game mechanic, I'm finding it hard to believe that Sorsha is silenced at LYLO when there hasn't been a silenced person all game (again, as far as we know).

Fuck. I don't know what to do. MM, come back. Do you think Sorsha could be faking her silence? Do you think it's possible Team Llama has an alignment switcheroo as Team Noses did?

Linki - Rico, yeah, me and MM are a team and we're putting off piling on Sorsha and FZ for fucking giggles.

Please STOP.

FZ. wrote:So you and MM had some BTSC during the night? At least that's how it sounds. What does it prove? Last time someone had BTSC with some people, he wrongly trusted them. This means nothing. I think that if you're seriously a civ, you should really consider you're wrong.

It might be that Sorsha is letting us fight between us because if we don't believe her and vote for her, she loses because I don't think she can do much with her vote.

I do think it's fucking odd that someone is suddenly silenced on LYLO (which I'm assuming this is with "Finish It" as the poll title???) when there hasn't been a silenced player all game that we know of.

I don't know. Regardless, I'm not bad. If MM votes for me, and it's LYLO, then that means civs lose.

FZ. wrote:Matt, if you're not sure about Sorsha and it's not you, than it has to be her. I swear I'm a civ. Look at all my actions during this game. Like I said, if you are a civ, I don't know how you're not even willing to consider you are wrong. This is nuts.

It's hard to talk about this because people keep saying "rules rules!", but though I strongly believe her to be civ, I've even theorized myself (and maybe with SOMEONE ELSE derp a derp) that she isn't who she says she is.

Also, btw, I had a strange feeling in the back of my mind that there was a certain piece missing to this whole "silence" thing, and I just remembered...

Remember when I posted that Dom quote about how to act as a civ rolechecker. I'm not going to do the work for you, but check out the thread "What's your least favorite mechanic" in the Don's Hideout forum. Check out Turnip's answer to that question, and I have to wonder if Sorsha is even really silenced.

I dunno dude. All I know is I'm not mafia. And if I had to pick between you and Sorsha being the last baddie, it would be you based on your admitting you have a vote manip, and how that correlates with the indy team in Stephen Keeler being the baddie team here.

MM - If Zebra had some sort of "alignment" switcheroo on her team, do you think it's possible the other team has that as well? Hence why we think Sorsha is good?

So check this out...

I admit this doesn't exactly prove I'm right, I could've just been "acting", but please observe...

On Day 4, I came up with a wild theory in my head that Boomslang may have been lying about being question cursed on a certain day, because of what positions we were at, and how nobody was posting in questions yet on a day they should've been. Eventually, it was pointed out that Lorab most likely controlled the position the night before, so it wouldn't necessarily be a question curse anyway (and this is all before Boom flipped and saw he was the question curser and how it didn't even have to do with positions!)...anyway, I'm thinking up my wild theory, and check it out...

Matt wrote:Hmmm.

Can Sorsha, Niju, Wilgy Llama, and Tranq all post? I'm working on a theory, thanks! Or if you've already posted on Day 4 and I missed it, can you please quote the post for me?

Appreciate it!

Okay. So I've gathered everyone else up at this point, and the above 5 were the only ones not to post yet that day to see if my theory about no question curser existing that day was correct. Following so far?

Matt wrote:Thanks Niju

Now I just need Sorsha, Wilgy, LLama, and Tranq.

Niju posts and now I just needed four more to prove my theory that Boom was a liar (well at least I thought so in my head at the time). Still following?

Matt wrote:Thanks Sorsha/Llama. And haha, no not this time Sorsha

Wilgy and Tranq - please post, thank you!

Sorsha and Llama post, and now I JUST NEED Wilgy and Tranq to post to prove that I may be right in my theory on Boomslang. At this point, btw, I'm super psyched that I might actually prove something here.

Matt wrote:I'm going to place a vote on Boomslang for now. I'd have preferred to have waited until everyone posted, but right now, I'm feeling good about my theory. I still won't be sharing until both Wilgy/Tranq post, or when the day ends, so I understand if nobody wants to follow my vote today.

I also find it curious that Boomslang, of all people, immediately tried to interrupt and make fun of my "Super Secret Theory". Very interesting, indeed!

I get ahead of myself and vote Boomslang. Wilgy and Tranq have yet to post, but neither of them had been posting all that much anyway, and at this point, I REALLY think I'm right on my theory. I am super effin' pumped...but then...

Matt wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Have bea and motelroom posted at all toDay? They don't have links on the first page...

Oh. Now that sucks.

bea, motel room, please post if you haven't posted on Day 4.

Dang it, I was so close!!!

Linki - Tranq, now that's interesting. Hmmm. Please post again, Tranq.

Now CHECK IT.

If motel room was my teammate, you are suggesting that I COMPLETELY FORGOT HE WAS PLAYING when working on my Boomslang theory.



Anyway, I'm not bad. Please vote FZ.

FZ, btw, ya know what, I'm not 100% on Sorsha. In fact, MM knows I'm not 100% on Sorsha. However, I strongly believe her to be civvie. I just do. I strongly believe MM to be for the civ cause.

That leaves you, because I'm not bad.

Linki - Haha Rico. I just posted about that Day 4

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Matt wrote:Couldn't sleep and decided to do some research. I've still got more to sort through, but here's a few things that are interesting...

1) MM, if Sorsha is really silenced and this isn't some elaborate scheme (which I severely doubt), then I think bea targeted me last night. Position 4 won the "who to rezz" poll, and position 4 on bea's power list is "redirect a player's power". She was sussing me yesterday, and after Rico's brilliant suggestion of blocking me, that has to be why Sorsha is silenced.

Are you admitting that you can silence players?

No, I don't know who can silence. As Rico pointed out, I don't recall anyone being silenced all game so I'm thinking it must be a power won from one of the night polls or some other unknown prize.

What I'm saying up there, is given who I targeted last night, HOW is it possible for someone to be silenced?

I figure, though, if bea was sussing me as she was, and she was in position 4 as she was, it's logical to assume she targeted me, and redirected MY POWER elsewhere.

Do you remember what I did? Are you following?

Couldn't sleep and decided to do some research. I've still got more to sort through, but here's a few things that are interesting...

1) MM, if Sorsha is really silenced and this isn't some elaborate scheme (which I severely doubt), then I think bea targeted me last night. Position 4 won the "who to rezz" poll, and position 4 on bea's power list is "redirect a player's power". She was sussing me yesterday, and after Rico's brilliant suggestion of blocking me, that has to be why Sorsha is silenced.

2) I'm getting the vibe that FZ is claiming to be a vote manipulator. She's made references to her having knowledge of your vote having WEIGHT, MM. She's also asked Sorsha to vote for her today, which I thought was her just being weird, however perhaps she set Sorsha's vote at 0 or -1. I say this because after looking at her ISO some more, at one point she claims that she had knowledge of 3J's (and someone else, forget) vote being worth 0 on a certain day. Now what's super interesting is this...

Remember the Harry Stephen Keeler Mafia indy team theory, MM? Something about the indy team in that game being the bad team in this game. I just checked and the indy team in that game had two vote manipulators on it. motel was Li Ling Lee, and I think FZ might be Napoleon Foy, the Laundryman from that game. A variation in power, but the same.

Now CHECK THIS OUT. This is where it gets real fun. MM, you know what I can do. FZ just admitted what she can do. Let's look at a couple of polls keeping this in mind, and keeping in mind that FZ has vote manip.

On Day 9, it was between Draconus and Motel room. At end of day, the lynch appeared to be 6 - 4, motel to be lynched. However, if motel was fed that night, and if FZ is on their team and vote manipulated some WEIGHT onto motel or Mac's vote, then that would mean the actual vote is 5 - 5, a tie. And as we see in the story post when Drac dies, motel and drac are in some kind of duel to the death. I think that lynch was really a tie, because of motel's and FZ's vote manips.

Anyway, I'm tired as hell, and I'm finally headin' to sleep. I think FZ just admitting she has a vote manip answers that day's strange lynch of Draconus and makes her look bad as shit, tbh.

Seriously peeps, FZ is bad bad bad. G'night, we'll resolve this tomorrow one way or the other.

Lulz, I would say "that's not possible" but then I wouldn't be able to explain why.

I just saw all of her posts in the other categories. Did anyone take up Rico's suggestion and block me last night?

Anyway, night. Sorsha, vote FZ. Please. I've had your back all game and I know you don't necessarily understand why, but please do not vote for me.

Peace

MM, I'm tired dude. Long day at work, come home to this, and now it looks like it's either me or FZ tomorrow. Again, if you vote me, good game, but you won't be winning with the civs.

I don't know why you think I would 100% kill bea, because I absolutely fucking wouldn't, but wifom regardless. As soon as I saw bea's flip, I figured all eyes would be on me.

If you think I fed you bullshit Marmot, then vote for me. I didn't, though. I trusted you, and that's that. If we're going strictly by thread material, then FZ looks the better with her "5/5" record.

Anyway, I'll be back in the morning, and I have the day off, so I'll be around the full day up until lynch time.

DH also called me bad for defending Sorsha.

But whatevs. Marmot, do you believe me or not? FYI, I had a good time yo, and if you vote against me, no hard feelings, but you will be wrong. I am civ.

FZ has flip flopped on me so many times this game it's ridiculous. Just this morning she was calling me civ. And now, she's calling me bad because I think she's bad. And yet, before she claimed to be willing to vote for bea because "it can't be anybody else". Well that's effin' funny FZ, that YOU can say people certainly can't be bad, but if I say it, I'm a bad guy.

Bullshit.