The Syndicate

Vompatti wrote:i trust zebra k

No, not really. Zebra is bad.

Scotty wrote:Why is MM a moderate scumread for you?

Because he was a Civ read, but then his latest agreement with meaningless and fake accusations against me made me question that.

Scotty wrote:Per the yellow:

Long Con wrote:I don't really understand why you would think I'm Mafia. Something's wrong with how you're reading me.

sig's whole post is just nonsense to me, as in it doesn't make sense.

"Okay I have no case to back this up what so ever and don't intend to make one tonight, but I'm about 65% sure LC is mafia now." I just don't see how giving a percentage works here, but whatever. "His play style was [neutral(?)] before," what does that mean, my play style was 'neutral' before? You mean your read of my alignment was unsure? Why not say that then? Or was it supposed to be 'natural'? "but I'm becoming increasingly more pinged by his play style and his attack on zebra seems to be what mafia LC used to do to me. " "seems to be what Mafia LC used to do to me" WTF are you serious with this? For starters, no. Again, you are attributing something to me that isn't something I've ever been accused of, and you have no references to back it up. You must be thinking of someone else.

It just plain doesn't make sense. And MM just comes in with "I agree!" When you just smile and agree with a suspicion that doesn't really stand up past being a mid-level gut feel, it just makes you look bad. But hey, cast your votes my way tomorrow, I've played enough Mafia to know that's the fastest way to convince some folks that I'm telling the truth.

Says this guy:

Long Con wrote:
I still don't trust Zebra's antics this game, like posting only in smilies, or being very antagonistic, and the early vote for Snow Dog pings me as well. So, in the interest of not missing my opportunity again, I'll vote zebra now.

*votes a2thezebra*

Then in the very next post:

Long Con wrote:No more spreading out votes. I agree with zebra's analysis of Soneji, and he is now one of my suspects.

...and?

Hopefully there's some cross-team baddie kill mojonation going on. RIP guys.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Necro-threesome.

Also, that high five was superlame and obviously not intended to be a hug.

NECRO-THREESOME sounds like some awful death metal band.

Or some undead jazz trio.

I can dig that.

A grave remark.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Necro-threesome.

Also, that high five was superlame and obviously not intended to be a hug.

NECRO-THREESOME sounds like some awful death metal band.

Or some undead jazz trio.

Soneji wrote:The impression I got from Long Con's wording is not that he truly bought into your argument but backed down based on how insistent you were. This says to me that he either didn't feel like going against/engaging you on the matter or backed off due to you being scummates and allowing you room to control the conversation. The latter is something I have taken part in with as scummates with my pal Marco on NF.

Well, I don't know what you and your buddy Marco like to do, but I don't see that as all too relevant when analyzing my behaviour. Here's my post that you want to condemn... weird that I'm the one who had to actually quote it, since you wouldn't:

Long Con wrote:My suspicion of MP feels better than my suspicion of Wilgy (probably due in part to Nacho's repeated viewpoint that no suspicion should arise from Wilgy's "no-role-look"), so I'll vote MP

So... what's the idea here again? Wilgy, Nacho, and I are all scummates? I guess that makes us the entire Pirate baddie team, since there's two Cannibals left at most. We didn't have to link to each other on Day 1, but we felt like it anyway. The thinking is flawed here. I posted what I did because that's how I was feeling at the time. No more, no less. I have no special connection to Nacho, Wilgy, or anyone.

I lean towards scummates given his claim of MP buddying, if he was town or opposing mafia I don't see him as willing to concede to you, rather take the opportunity to implicate you.

Is that what you do when you're town? "Take opportunities to implicate people"? That doesn't sound very Civvish. That's not how I roll, if I feel like someone is bad, then I will usually say it, and when I don't feel like they're bad, then I don't.

sig wrote:@Sonjie/LC Could you give me a rainbow list (or something like it) of your current reads?

Long Con
Nachomamma8
Dr. Wilgy
Vompatti
Scotty
Snow Dog
MacDougall
Metalmarsh89
Soneji
motel room 2.0
Sig
a2thezebra

I don't really understand why you would think I'm Mafia. Something's wrong with how you're reading me.

sig's whole post is just nonsense to me, as in it doesn't make sense.

"Okay I have no case to back this up what so ever and don't intend to make one tonight, but I'm about 65% sure LC is mafia now." I just don't see how giving a percentage works here, but whatever. "His play style was [neutral(?)] before," what does that mean, my play style was 'neutral' before? You mean your read of my alignment was unsure? Why not say that then? Or was it supposed to be 'natural'? "but I'm becoming increasingly more pinged by his play style and his attack on zebra seems to be what mafia LC used to do to me. " "seems to be what Mafia LC used to do to me" WTF are you serious with this? For starters, no. Again, you are attributing something to me that isn't something I've ever been accused of, and you have no references to back it up. You must be thinking of someone else.

It just plain doesn't make sense. And MM just comes in with "I agree!" When you just smile and agree with a suspicion that doesn't really stand up past being a mid-level gut feel, it just makes you look bad. But hey, cast your votes my way tomorrow, I've played enough Mafia to know that's the fastest way to convince some folks that I'm telling the truth.

Long Con wrote:... I can't remember anyone every saying that about me before...

*ever

sig wrote:LC seems to have been trying to lynch Zebra for awhile, since she is a low hanging fruit which is something he does alot as mafia.

I don't believe that's true. I can't remember anyone every saying that about me before, and I don't recognize that as one of my usual behaviours. You had better qualify that with an example, or it's going to look pretty suspicious to me. From my point of view, you're making up something about me to try and incriminate me.

He has also been posting less and his post about not killing active players was odd.

I haven't been posting less, I've been posting little all game. It's nothing I haven't addressed before.

And I know that post was odd. It was just so quiet, so I thought I'd say something odd. Maybe it was boredom. I wouldn't have said it if it weren't true.

thellama73 wrote:Things have bee really crazy lately...

Things have been really buzzing here as well.

Thank you for your patience!

I never agreed to having patience.

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:No more spreading out votes. I agree with zebra's analysis of Soneji, and he is now one of my suspects.

Wait what? But you just voted zebra. Zebra, this is a true waffle if I ever saw it.

Not when there are two baddie teams.

Which baddie team are you on?

Is that supposed to be clever?

Scotty wrote:

Long Con wrote:No more spreading out votes. I agree with zebra's analysis of Soneji, and he is now one of my suspects.

Wait what? But you just voted zebra. Zebra, this is a true waffle if I ever saw it.

Not when there are two baddie teams.

Soneji wrote:

Long Con wrote:No more spreading out votes. I agree with zebra's analysis of Soneji, and he is now one of my suspects.

LC I want you to explain how my choosing to vote Nacho over you is scummy to you. I can certainly see why it could seem scummy to others but to you that reason doesn't apply. It actively works against you.

Is that what you got from zebra's analysis?

a2thezebra wrote:What does that even mean? If you're not sold on it how can it be appeasing?

a2thezebra wrote:If he's a top suspect, why on earth let him be until later?

My take on it was that you were putting out some weird contradictory stuff about me. That makes it look like a manufactured opinion that's designed to be middle-groundy, but still leave some suspicion on me for later.

No more spreading out votes. I agree with zebra's analysis of Soneji, and he is now one of my suspects.

Soneji wrote:Seems they have gone more the route of letting the activity slow down to a crawl rather than try to take the lead now that most of the top level/most active players are dead. The players I was watching this phase were Long Con and Nacho. As I pointed out in my ISO of Long Con, he backed off of Wilgy due to Nacho's insistence that Wilgy's role PM antics weren't scum indicative. This was odd to me considering LC going after MP for supposed buddying but then allowing someone he has no reason to trust to sway his view on another player, rather than suspecting them of buddying/defending a scummate. That Nacho has fallen off the face of the earth in activity after d1 is a big red flag.

My vote will be on LC or Nacho today.

I don't think it's that odd. I don't have to trust Nacho to believe that his point of view on Wilgy is right. And I don't see any connection at all between my accusation of MP's buddying, and the Wilgy-Nacho situation. I don't automatically accuse people of buddying just for defending a person, or agreeing with them. It takes a lot more.

I haven't contributed much to this game, I know... as I said before, I'm just easing my way back into having Mafia in my life. If you lynch me, you'll lynch a Civ. Let the baddies kill me instead, and it will be closer to a Civ win.

I still don't trust Zebra's antics this game, like posting only in smilies, or being very antagonistic, and the early vote for Snow Dog pings me as well. So, in the interest of not missing my opportunity again, I'll vote zebra now.

*votes a2thezebra*

Looks like it. I would never do that, unless they were coming after me.

Nah, I'm cool with MM.

Yay, drunk MM! I'm a much more coherent drunk atm.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Aw crap.

Sorry Boomslang! You were the best of us.

Hey!

Long Con wrote:Sorry to see you go, MP - you were the best of us!

Vompatti wrote:

Long Con wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Bye Boomslang we hardly knew ye.

Are we really just gonna not discuss the fact that Wilgy hasn't read his role pm?

Does anyone actually still believe that's true? I never really thought he was being serious.

How is it relevant whether he has read it or not? Would knowing your role affect the way you play? Because it shouldn't.

Not in the way that you are seeing it. But the knowledge of one's teammates, if they exist, should inform one's play to some degree.

MacDougall wrote:Bye Boomslang we hardly knew ye.

Are we really just gonna not discuss the fact that Wilgy hasn't read his role pm?

Does anyone actually still believe that's true? I never really thought he was being serious.

DrWilgy wrote:All logic isn't pretzel logic, for then all logic would be delicious.

Sounds logical.

Sorry I missed the vote, everyone. I took on a job in the house that was bigger than I expected, and it consumed me for the last few hours of the lynch, then I went to work.

I think it's a weak vote from Vompatti.

Here's my take:

Long Con wrote:If the Pirates killed MP, then the only players in the game that knew MP was Civ (if it's so) are the Cannibals. That's pretty simple to see. The Pirates, for all they knew, killed a Cannibal. The Civs know next to nothing. Vice-versa if the Cannibals killed him.... then the Pirates knew if he's Civ.

I'm not saying that Soneji did know MP was Civ (and is therefore a baddie), but it is a possibility.

Or, he just made a careless assumption that the baddies killed a Civ, and forgot to consider the other option. That's very easy to believe.

I haven't decided which side I believe yet. If it is a slip, then it's such a delicious catch and I would hate to disregard it. On the other hand, I could easily see myself making that careless assumption, so it's hard to bring the hammer down.

Snow Dog wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Quin wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Earlier while compiling ISOs, MP accidentally deleted the one he'd done for Wilgy. Well if he was bad one must ask if this an accident. Or was it a way to avoid that analasys? Would MP do this though? Does it border on unfair play?

There is absolutely no way that it was intentional.

Absolutely? Why?

Because there is absolutely no way that MP07 of any alignment would intentionally abuse his power and cheat, especially in such a flagrant fashion. No more discussion on the topic is needed, case closed.

I don't feel like I was buddying Epi.

Yeah I already closed the case if you only bothered to check!

I had the post started for a while and finished it after your closure, and I didn't get linkitis'ed about it. Dial back that exclamation point, mister.

If the Pirates killed MP, then the only players in the game that knew MP was Civ (if it's so) are the Cannibals. That's pretty simple to see. The Pirates, for all they knew, killed a Cannibal. The Civs know next to nothing. Vice-versa if the Cannibals killed him.... then the Pirates knew if he's Civ.

I'm not saying that Soneji did know MP was Civ (and is therefore a baddie), but it is a possibility.

Or, he just made a careless assumption that the baddies killed a Civ, and forgot to consider the other option. That's very easy to believe.

Snow Dog wrote:

Quin wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Earlier while compiling ISOs, MP accidentally deleted the one he'd done for Wilgy. Well if he was bad one must ask if this an accident. Or was it a way to avoid that analasys? Would MP do this though? Does it border on unfair play?

There is absolutely no way that it was intentional.

Absolutely? Why?

Because there is absolutely no way that MP07 of any alignment would intentionally abuse his power and cheat, especially in such a flagrant fashion. No more discussion on the topic is needed, case closed.

I don't feel like I was buddying Epi.

Epignosis wrote:The names on the poll look like a man with a hat and large shoes. Seriously. Cool stuff.

You are tired. However, that man has some fashionable red-topped shoes! It shouldn't surprise you that I spoke little of BR, that's literally always the way I play the early game with her.

MacDougall wrote:

Long Con wrote:Zebra-Mac, together again.

Epignosis wrote:Long Con, are you a people eater?

Nah, I'm a manhunter. Get back here, you mans!

Put the bong down. Actually nah you do you.

Well, I ain't gonna do you. You ain't my type.

Zebra-Mac, together again.

Epignosis wrote:Long Con, are you a people eater?

Nah, I'm a manhunter. Get back here, you mans!

Epignosis wrote:In the past two games, Eloh was bad, busy, and bearing it. She also killed me in both of those games. She subbed out here.

For that reason, I don't think she's bad, and I don't think motel room 2 is.

What do you think of his assertion that zebra and Mac were performing a distancing spectacle?

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

What'cha thinkin' about, old chum?

People acting like hooligans outside.

Does it make you feel intimidated? Or will you confront them and bid them to get off your lawn, as it were?

We're getting the fuck out.

Because it's time to go.

srs bsns! Glad to see things are looking up. Hard work and determination are the shizznit!

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

What'cha thinkin' about, old chum?

People acting like hooligans outside.

Does it make you feel intimidated? Or will you confront them and bid them to get off your lawn, as it were?

Epignosis wrote:

What'cha thinkin' about, old chum?

Quin wrote:stop killing the active players u actual nerds

Agreed. You should have killed me before MP, I'm generally considered Civvish, and he was playing a way better game. I know that he was more of a threat, but I think that the quality of the game for everyone should be a goal to keep in mind, and he was top-quality.

Sorry to see you go, MP - you were the best of us!

motel room wrote:Mighty fine distancing, mighty fahhhn

This was my favourite part:

MacDougall wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:The best apology is improvement and I ain't seeing it even though you're right here and presumably not mid-bender.

I have been online for 10 minutes psycho.

Top drawer hilarity!

DrWilgy wrote:...or get me to answer any 1 question truthfully.

If you are Civ, don't you answer all questions truthfully?

Voted sword because I like swords.

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:Good job, I agree with Epi's theory. The Pirates are lazy PM-missers, and the jerk Cannibals killed Golden.

Are you a lazy PM-misser?

Nope!

Good job, I agree with Epi's theory. The Pirates are lazy PM-missers, and the jerk Cannibals killed Golden.

MP, I totally appreciate the effort you are putting in, and I feel shame at being a surface-skimmer at this point. I'm hoping that my light touch will make me less of a nightkill target at least, though more of a target for righteous scorn.

Looks like BR is likely going down. If the kill was missed then she's certainly one of the likely suspects. I'm going to throw a vote Zebra's way though, because I think her weird behaviour is a screen for her baddieness. Sorry I'm not ready to get all MP07-level with my game analysis, but this is my first game back after a break, and I need to gently work Mafia back into my life, which was 0% mafia for some time.

*vote a2thezebra*

Those were huge. I haven't read them yet, but they must have taken you a long time. .

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:// Method for Monkey Island gameplay
while (alive) {

• if (vompatti == alive) {
  • vote(vompatti);
  } else if (a2thezebra == alive) {
  • vote(a2thezebra);
  } else {
  • vote(self);
  }

}

return;

This is too real for me. Fuck coding.

It's one of my favourite posts in the game.

Quin wrote:I'll post this here as well just so people are aware of why my activity or level of effort might drop in this game:

Quin wrote:I'm getting one of my wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Originally I was supposed to get both of my bottom teeth out way back when I got the first one out, but I had some issues getting scans done so the dentist postponed getting one of them. So now I get to go through recovery a second time

My painkillers make me drowsy and between that and the expected repeat of the lack of sleep and pain I went through last time, I probably won't be incredibly motivated for a while

I got 4 impacted wisdom teeth out at once, and I was eating within 24 hours, with no pain or anything. You just gotta have the right surgeon.

sig wrote:I could also see LC killing Golden day 1.

Not so likely. I'd kill plenty before killing Golden.

I kind of skimmed your big post, but it looked like Golden said he's good at reading me, so I killed him. Sorry, my time is short right now, I'll try again in a bit.

thellama73 wrote:Meanwhile, a fight breaks out, as fights are wont to do in places like this, and Motel Room is killed. He shouldn't have put his elbows on the table.

Wait a sec, was this a pasta pun?

My gut tells me that MP wouldn't have killed Golden.

RIP Golden. I'm not sad because I'm back now, and I know I'll play with you again soon.

Epignosis wrote:Time to cull the less actives.

Already? Who did you have in mind?

Epignosis wrote:Two people should have died. Only one did.

thellama73 wrote:LeChuck - The infamous ghost pirate. Kills nightly.

The Cannibals (3) - Just want to be left alone on Monkey Island. They kill nightly and win if both other teams are dead (with the exception of Herman Toothrot and the Head of the Navigator, whom they can tolerate.)

There's a blocker, a protector, and the Head of the Navigator, but there's also this:

thellama73 wrote:Night ends in an hour and I am still missing lots of actions.

Exactly... maybe the killer wasn't around to send it in. Host, can a team send in a kill for an absent killer?

Epignosis wrote:I want to lynch Black Rock.

Ah, I see.

So Zebra, if you could talk all along, then why were you not? Was that a method of getting through day 1 without attarcting much attention? I wonder if you would have stopped fooling around sooner if someone other than motel room or MP had been on the chopping block?