The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.
No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.
I targeted no one Night 1.

I targeted you Night 2.

I don't even know who I'm arguing with.
This is fallout from your mistaken post + funnygurl's claim.
What fallout? I'm telling the truth.

The fallout is merely Long Con acting the fool.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.
No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.
I targeted no one Night 1.

I targeted you Night 2.

I don't even know who I'm arguing with.

This is fallout from your mistaken post + funnygurl's claim.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:20 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:18 pm Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.
No version of events has epi targeting mac on night 2.

Ah. Ok, I mostly go from memory, and also I like weed. So...

Nah - Mac killed someone the Night he died, I'd wager.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:15 pm the only conceivable way that epi and i are both telling the truth is if there's some sorta bus driver or ... puppet master type wolf role

but then you gotta think odds here

there is a world where we're both telling the truth but it's very unlikely

i want sour gummy rings

Busdrive from Sloonei onto Mac for Epi. Was Mac blocked Night 2?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:11 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.
Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??
LC FG TS
FG’s “whadda ya think about this Mikey” gimmick seems pretty not w/w
Why not?
Pretty aggressive buddying scheme for teammates. It’s not out of anyone’s range and I suppose there are pairs I could see it with, but it feels earnest.

It's tough to judge due to both being new to me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:10 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:08 pm Epi says he blocked Sloonei. Sloonei says he wasn't blocked. Is there a dead blocker? Like, someone that could have blocked Epi?
I have since rescinded this claim. It is not impossible that I was blocked. I targeted turnip with an item, not a role ability.

Gotcha.

Epi says he blocked Sloonei. Sloonei says he wasn't blocked. Is there a dead blocker? Like, someone that could have blocked Epi?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:06 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:03 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:19 pm I readily grant that LC’s failed hammer vote rubbed me wrong.
Yeeeeaaaah actually that might make me think LC's scum and Epi's not??
LC FG TS
FG’s “whadda ya think about this Mikey” gimmick seems pretty not w/w

Why not?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:52 pm I changed my vote too. It occurred me to that if Funnygirl has a claim against and I know I'm not lying, then I need to think about that.
I don't know what you mean.
It means I'm not going to vote someone without considering other ideas. Jesus. For someone so smart you don't get it.

I'm gonna allow this since JJJ said this to Epi last game:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:20 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:16 pm You mean the mafia team might not be playing optimally? Oh gee. Never saw that one before.
Okay.

There you go.

Stop for a moment.

Breathe.

Reflect.

You're close.

It's not just suboptimal, Epignosis.

It's terrible.

It's fucking moronic.

It's the stuff of idiots.

Okay?

There's no need for the brilliant mafia duet of JJJ and Nanook to play these games instead of just, you know, winning it. The normal way. There wasn't likely to be a ton of resistance to me especially. This shit doesn't make sense. Use your head.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:55 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:51 pm switched to no kill to prevent against hammer rushing
[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine to prevent No lynch from itself being hammered
is that a possibility?

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine
I almost used Scaredy as well, Twinsie!
Hammer time!

We can't both be MC Hammer.... maybe we can be Milli Vanilli!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:52 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:49 pm Every single player has appeared today. The only one not present recently is Tony. If the mafia are in a position right now where they can hammer Epignosis with a quick spurt of votes (if one or neither of Sloonei and Long Con are mafia), then the only thing preventing that right this moment would have to be a mafia Tony.
What about people not understanding what the fuck a hammer vote consists of?
That applies to nobody in this game.
Not true. I do not know shit about hammer voting.

Is there a level of complication of which I'm unaware?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:51 pm switched to no kill to prevent against hammer rushing
[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine to prevent No lynch from itself being hammered
is that a possibility?

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

I almost used Scaredy as well, Twinsie!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:52 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:51 pm switched to no kill to prevent against hammer rushing
[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine to prevent No lynch from itself being hammered

Can that happen?

Hammer time joke that Sloonei stole.

Looked like fun to do a hammer. I didn't hammer, I just put it within range.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:01 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:59 pm STOP!!!
Is it hammer time already?

...

[VOTE: Epi] aubergine

STOP!!!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:47 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:32 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
If Sloonei was roleblocked last night, with three kills, wouldn't that be a good mark on him?
I said I was a limited role blocker. Can't you read? I don't even understand my own role.

I thought that meant limited shots.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:32 pm [VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

If Sloonei was roleblocked last night, with three kills, wouldn't that be a good mark on him?

So, JJJ, nutella, I presume you guys are town-aligned? Or Indy? What have you been doing all this time? Has it been boring, or have you been silently participating the whole time? Have you cast any secret votes? Any tic-tac-toe?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:53 pm It has an end date in the past

This game is WILD.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:59 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:45 pm [VOTE: radish] aubergine

I've been thinking about it, and I'm feeling a TMI vibe from radishes, he is too sure that I'm Civ.
Are you a civ?

[VOTE: radish] aubergine

I've been thinking about it, and I'm feeling a TMI vibe from radishes, he is too sure that I'm Civ.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 12:26 pm Here's a fun one: A readlist based only on people's current votes:

Good votes - MacDougall, Sloonei, Funnygurl, ts account, Epignosis
Not Good Votes - Turnip Head, Master Radishes, Long Con, TSP, Ted

Ok, is this better? [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:07 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:51 am I hate to be the person to bring it up, but it is interesting Turnip Head is looking for a team of three. I thought with 15 players it would be more likely that we are looking at a team of four.
absolutely and forever town here look at this. is it a dumbtell? perhaps, idk, however this is a tell

if there are 3 wolves, look to turnip head. thanks

my tells are never wrong you're welvome

Don't like this, it's a nothing statement. We can't know until the game ends. [VOTE: funnygurl] aubergine

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:01 pm How confident are you in your Long Con vote?
Maybe 60%? I'm not married to it, but I also think it bears talking about.
Care to explain in the simplest terms possible so we all have it moving forward? The thread is silent, we can put forth any ideas we want.

Epignosis is actually three skeletors in a trench coat.

I wish I knew how to embed this video, but: https://ifunny.co/video/9bGzHy7X7

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:07 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:01 pm How confident are you in your Long Con vote?
Maybe 60%? I'm not married to it, but I also think it bears talking about.
Care to explain in the simplest terms possible so we all have it moving forward? The thread is silent, we can put forth any ideas we want.

Epignosis is actually three skeletors in a trench coat.
30% is the self-vote, 30% is his early response to suspicion, and the other 40 percent is the stuff in between. LC is like a sandwich with good filling and moldy bread.

HEY man

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:32 am Does anyone have an opinion on Mikey they'd like to share? Also Mac's vote for speedchuck feels phoned it but I was townreading him aside from that

I hear he's into Life brand cereal.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:08 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:03 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:08 pm [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Turnip Head is town.
Explain your thought process on why TH is town now? I liked your point about him watching and commenting and sitting on a dead wagon. (It may have only been 1 vote off, but it had no momentum.)
He's not lying about having a town read on leetic, and the response of telling me to shove my vote up my ass looked authentic.
I never get a pass for that.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:23 am Also, why no JJJ/nutella still? Who's keeping them away?

At this point, they've had no interaction with the game, unless they're casting secret votes or using night powers. Maybe they have a Grandmaster challenge going on where they win by predicting the Mafia team better than the other.... but that sounds like a lame-ass "role" to get in a Mafia game, like, "I signed up to PLAY, man!"

So tempting.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:21 pm It wasn't that big of a thing really. Maybe I'll want to revisit it at some point but I think I've moved onto Mikey for now

*checks poll* Yup, you have.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:43 am There you go, he’s outed

Who's outed? As what?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:35 am You are a town read, LC. I left my vote on leetic at least partially because I didn’t want you lynched. I expressed this read well before your self-vote. These are not interrogative questions. I’m just hoping to hear your voice.

I'll let you know if I hear anything.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:31 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:29 amBut my vote is the only one that counts in this exercise.
Who should we vote for today?

Why don't you ask your towncore?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:27 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:26 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:25 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:18 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:17 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:14 am

No you’re not. Or, that’s TBD. What made you decide that was the best thing to do?
Bad mood.
If yours was the only vote that counted yesterday, where would it have gone?
Probably Drago or Mac.
Why?
They were upsetting me the most.
But they don’t have votes in this exercise.

But my vote is the only one that counts in this exercise.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:25 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:18 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:17 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:14 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:38 pm @Long Con talk about your self-vote for us.
I'm going to get lynched at some point anyway.
No you’re not. Or, that’s TBD. What made you decide that was the best thing to do?
Bad mood.
If yours was the only vote that counted yesterday, where would it have gone?
Probably Drago or Mac.
Why?

They were upsetting me the most.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:18 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:17 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:14 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:38 pm @Long Con talk about your self-vote for us.
I'm going to get lynched at some point anyway.
No you’re not. Or, that’s TBD. What made you decide that was the best thing to do?
Bad mood.
If yours was the only vote that counted yesterday, where would it have gone?

Probably Drago or Mac.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:14 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:12 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:38 pm @Long Con talk about your self-vote for us.
I'm going to get lynched at some point anyway.
No you’re not. Or, that’s TBD. What made you decide that was the best thing to do?

Bad mood.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:38 pm @Long Con talk about your self-vote for us.

I'm going to get lynched at some point anyway.

Well, good luck if you're town, leetic.

Disappointed no one went for the hammer.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:47 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:45 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm I really don't think leetic is bad here.
why not?
Well, you could read my posts.
Oh right, you made a big thing about it.
I'm in the "too generous" camp.

Yeah, I read your posts.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:42 pm I really don't think leetic is bad here.
why not?

Well, you could read my posts.

I really don't think leetic is bad here.

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:40 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.
I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
If you are town then this means you believe you are the best lynch.

Guess so.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:34 pm Way too much omgus in this game.

I'm more in OMGIS mode right now. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:09 pm
Spoiler: show
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:54 am So, leetic... I'll do this like counting cards in Blackjack. Start at 0, +value for towny, -value for wolfy.

First post (beyond guitar vid) is criticising the level of Day 1 activity in the thread. A valid criticism, we were 7 hours into Day 1, and not one player had tried to get serious. I liked this opener. +2 (2)

Second post votes Sloonei for having three posts, 100% dedicated to setup speculation. 4 hours AFTER telling the thread to get going, with still no serious responses. I liked this as well, which is why I decided to double down the vote. +2 (4)

Third post is a little sketchy. It's nice to see the genesis of the Mikey-Sloonei thing, but leetic's calling Mikey's post "weird" doesn't check out, because Mikey isn't "calling out Sloonei for setup speculation", he's criticising Sloonei's speculation with a hypothetcal designed to reveal the pointlessness of Sloonei's discussion. -1 (3)

Post 4:
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:13 am
ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:57 am
leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:06 am
Y'know, this post is a bit weird. Mikey is calling out Sloonei for setup speculation, yet when you look at the first paragraph, that's exactly what he's doing here

Care to explain?
I would like to know from you. Are you worried about me pocketing you?
Mikey's behavior is weird, last game when he was town he wasn't going after the people doing setup speculation despite the fact that there was a lot going on. And what's with this business about pocketing, like of course I'm not going to discount the possibility of someone being scum just because they townread me. Now I'm voting Mikey for this reason.
I quoted this one because Mikey's post is something I don't really understand. I don't see how that is, in any way, a response to leetic's question. It's a really weird response.

THEN leetic responds to Mikey... but in third person, like he's presenting Mikey's post to everyone else rather than responding to it. Also just weird, I don't really like that he specifically disengaged from the conversation, but it makes them look less than teammate-compatible, so there's that. Vote switch does please me, and makes sense, if Mikey's departure from previous town behaviour is accurate, it's a better reason to vote than Sloonei's speculation. +0 (3)... -1 for ts account.

Post 5 continues the meatiness that I am so far liking in leetic's posts. The "pocketing" discussion so far is just randomly generated by Mikey, and leetic's response to his pressing on the subject is the right response to the odd curveball.

Suspicion of tedxtr's early towncore feels good.

Radishes calls leetic out on the casual (too casual?) talk, leetic gives a reasonable response. Maybe Radishes is right, I wouldn't have noticed such a thing if he hadn't pointed it out. Slight minus on this post's score, a la Radish.

The tedxtr interactions, I don't agree with tedxtr's criticism of leetic's... whole game so far, I guess. +1 (4)

Post 6 leetic gives a list of reads with some explanation. Looks like genuine solving. +1 (5)

Post 7 Dragomir responded negatively to leetic's assessment that he was just sheeping Sloonei with no original thoughts. Dragomir's reaction to the accusation was mild defensive hostility, which is a -1 for him, and leetic's reply was a reasonable explanation and a prod toward fixing the apparent problem. Dragomir would have looked better if he had given original thoughts instead of just bristling at leetic's observation. +1 again for leetic (6)

Post 8 Dragomir doubles down on the idea that leetic is prodding him to "create random thoughts out of thin air so [he] could be original". Like, where do thoughts come from usually? Amazon? You have to, like, think about things to get thoughts. leetic shames Dragomir and casts a vote that I judge to be valid. +1 (7) Is leetic still in the lead for votes? He looks really town so far, where are the suspicions coming from?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:25 pm leetic cont'd...

Post 9, follow-up thoughts on Dragomir's bristly rebuke of leetic's suggestion that he could share some original thoughts. 0 (7)

Post 10 leetic challenges the "growing LC wagon" because no one was defending me. If leetic were bad, then he should have no problem at all with a growing town lynch. This looks very good, and I'm fine with the TMI bias I'm obviously showing. +2 (9)

Post 11 I don't really understand what tedxtr is saying here, I don't know the term "town blocking". leetic's response I don't get either... where is the monopolization of discussion happening? 0 (9)

Post 12 to clarify to Sloonei the Post 10 position on the LC votes. Casts some suspicion on speedchuck, but I don't really like the word "opportunistic" all that much. It's a big word that's pretty easy to throw around to put suspicion on people, and it's one I've used as a wolf in fake cases before. leetic says it twice here. -1 (8)

Post 13 again with the "opportunistic", and there's an "interesting" in there to boot. Dislike. -1 (7)

Post 14 is meh. Not too solvey, definition discussion and slight prod. 0 (7)

Post 15 was directed at me, asking my opinions on Mikey-Sloonei. Pretty basic. 0 (7)

Post 16 Drago and leetic snapping at each other a little, and it looks genuine to me, in that I don't think they are w/w. Drago's criticism is valid; two votes doesn't really make for wariness of a growing wagon. The "taken out of context" thing is weak. -1 (6)

Still well in the positives, a town lean at this point on leetic.

LC, can you point to any instance of your doing this exercise with anybody in the history of ever?

And why just leetic?

Yeah, I've done it a few times before, once it was the ScumDar10 system, this time it was "counting cards" style, basically the same concept of numerically rating the suspiciousness of posts.

I chose leetic because at the time he was at four votes, leading the lynch. I wanted to see if I wanted to "get on the train" or argue against it.

I've been told now that it's a stupid system that apparently does nothing but open me up to suspicion for some reason, so I won't do it ever again.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:57 pm lc, where ya at. wheres that analysis. where are those PUSHES pls man

I'm here, how's it going?

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