The Syndicate

The player suspicions from you that I remember after that skim, are all reactionary to them voting you.

I looked at your ISO from Day 3, and I don't see "towning your ass off". One main thing I think is "towning one's ass off" is showing an interest in figuring out who's town and who's wolf, and your Day 3 ISO looks more like you're watching from the edges but not really trying to figure anyone out. Is that your usual town play?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:29 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:18 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:06 pm @Epignosis @DarlingMonroe What's your beef?

I think DarlingMonroe is mafia.

That's it.

Works for me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

Abi rescinded.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:32 pm Question, was there a perceived town core from the other thread?

Yeah, and I was even sometimes in it! Epignosis, Abigail, Sloonei in some, Seanzie in some... Caitlin was in it. Did sig make it in at one point? leetic I think I saw in one, but I'm not down with that.

Thank you.

Of the players on your side, Sig was the only one I had a tr on, do you know who advised the town Sig?

Can't recall without looking for it.

Abi’s a wolf

Multiball or no?

Epignosis is generally thought of as town, and has had no memorable suspicion against him.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:27 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:26 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:25 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:23 pm 1. why would you use gun differently then cop check?

This sounds so American.

You're also American.

Yeah, just like Scottish people are British.

Scottish people are Europeans.

Sure, but they're also in Great Britain, so they're British.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:25 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:23 pm 1. why would you use gun differently then cop check?

This sounds so American.

You're also American.

Yeah, just like Scottish people are British.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:23 pm 1. why would you use gun differently then cop check?

This sounds so American.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:20 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:11 am I realize I am doing the same thing I'm accusing you of in my emotional response and I shouldnot do that

I do think the pelt is mine though

I think I'm wrong on someone in my town core who Caitlin was right about otherwise I think I'd be dead N1 over her

It could be falcon... but I don't want to think it is

So Princess Abigail is town yeah?

We generally like her. She was a major pyxxy pursuer, and I think Caitlin had her as town.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:21 pm Especially if the flip here disproves an idea of multiball...

Let's hope so!

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:16 pm Out of the other thread players so far, I feel most comfortable calling Cape90/Dyslexicon town. I dont think I can put that into words more than just 'They seem alright.' Would like to know if that's a sentiment shared with those who were in their thread these last few days though.

To a more technical extent, Nutella/MasterRadishes join that list since I dont think the haiku restriction would come from town, even if just because it seems so inconvenient for town to apply to someone, and what they have given so far doesn't feel scummy enough to warrant being restricted by town to begin with.

How about WWA?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:17 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:12 am A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.

Would have liked to see leetic on a line in there.

1. usually posts like this wouldn't have the user talk about themselves as that could be LAMIST/indulgent.
2. why not do it yourself?

1. Ennnnh, I wouldn't expect a reads post to involve the poster, but this was a news report. leetic could tell you a one-liner about his pyxxy interactions. He SAID "everyone's".
2. I don't always feel like looking stuff up.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:18 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:06 pm @Epignosis @DarlingMonroe What's your beef?

I think DarlingMonroe is mafia.

That's it.

Works for me.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

Abi rescinded.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:27 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:32 pm Question, was there a perceived town core from the other thread?

Yeah, and I was even sometimes in it! Epignosis, Abigail, Sloonei in some, Seanzie in some... Caitlin was in it. Did sig make it in at one point? leetic I think I saw in one, but I'm not down with that.

Thank you.

Of the players on your side, Sig was the only one I had a tr on, do you know who advised the town Sig?

Can't recall without looking for it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:11 pm Damn, I just scrolled up and thought I saw a tit.

Nature is beautiful.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:09 pm There's no way to see the other thread?

Forever off-limits.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:07 pmArr!!

Was the first post today a mistake?

Beaten by two seconds!

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:03 pm What are the West Facility's feelings on Delta?

Delta had the most votes at one point in Day 2, but both sig and Porscha ended up with the lion's share. Epignosis did a delta-pyxxy interaction analysis that had some convincing points that they could be teammates.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:57 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:54 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pm “TSP fits onto a lot of teams” something people say when TSP is town

Wait, yeah, @Master Radishes what does this even mean? I think you should qualify/explain it.

It means TSP has done nothing to suggest he's town, and so could be scum, but equally has done nothing that screams he's scum, and so could be town. It was a lazy way of me saying he's firmly PoE.

As for why I said it, I was browsing the list and saw his name and forgot he was here and thought 'hmm, if we're thinking a wolf team lacking thread control that could mean TSP too' and then later saw Nutella throw his name out there too.

Ok. Weird expression though. Like, if he campaigned to get pyxxy out then he doesn't necessarily fit on that team. I'm over it.

He's dedicated to posting one-line posts. The only time he seemed particularly animated was in one of his only multiline posts where he ranted about being stuck waiting in a Walmart. It's like a schtick, but it feels like a schtick that promotes slanking. He said on N0 that he would come back on Day 2 and be wrong about everything, but he didn't even really try that as I recall.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:56 pm I have 6 votes?





That's a lot, eh?

That's what I'm saying!

Not even halfway through the day, and so much consolidation. Will it stay, or is it too early to be consolidated?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pm “TSP fits onto a lot of teams” something people say when TSP is town

Wait, yeah, @Master Radishes what does this even mean? I think you should qualify/explain it.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:40 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:35 pm Do you have a Top 3 T & Top 3 W?

Town: Dizzy, Long Con,
maybe Windward at this point.
Plus sig and Abi.

Radish, Epi, Sloon
also climbing up that way.
This is more than three

For scum, there's Lemon,
maybe falcon and sabi,
also TSP?

TSP looks like
type of slot that would be scum,
not talked about much

and leetic described
his pyxxy positioning
that didn't sound great

We're going to get along just fine. These are guys I can handle voting for: leetic, falcon, TSP. I was vibing with the Lemonfairy votes earlier, but I didn't feel my vote was necessary at the time - I thought it ballooned up a little bigger than needed, actually. Lemon was already seeming a little cautious and probably two or three votes would have been enough to get her talking. Five was like "we are seriously killing you now" vibes.

sig is my most personal scumread, and historically they're mostly wrong, so I'm going to cool off on it. If he becomes a wagon, I'll almost certainly join it.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:34 pm "Opportunistic"
is such an overused word
never good reason

It's the cheapest and easiest go-to reason for a Wolf to use as (part of) a reason to cast a vote on someone.

Town probably use it sometimes as well, it's an understandable way to feel when you're feeling besieged.

But mostly wolfy.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine I do not feel like this is opportunistic, since I've made a case on you in the past, and have you in the red zone of my rainbow list.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:32 pm Question, was there a perceived town core from the other thread?

Yeah, and I was even sometimes in it! Epignosis, Abigail, Sloonei in some, Seanzie in some... Caitlin was in it. Did sig make it in at one point? leetic I think I saw in one, but I'm not down with that.

The way that the Nanook-Dizzy exchange ended looked like a concocted "let's do this because what Wolf partners would even do that?" plan. It's too silly to be real, and yet a perfect fun thing to do because it's the Champs game.

I can't seriously pursue it, but I couldn't not say it.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:21 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:18 pm I was just about to do my town core post and...I find myself struggling for town core reads

Falcons dropped out of my old list and only WWA has really joined it

Why did falcon drop off?

Caitlin + doing nothing yesterday after Caitlin his main pusher died but mostly Caitlin

The main reason I cooled off on falcon was your insistence that you are the ultimate falcon reader, and that you say he's definitely town.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:14 pm I'm not voting LC or Epi

We are your two town reads?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:33 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:33 pm hihi o/ will be around in a bit, have caught up but will share my thoughts once I'm free

could someone from the other thread run me through how Davos approached things while split? would kinda like to look into both the sock puppets here since the fact we have two is interesting

agreed with the general idea of voting within our facilities today & will follow suit \o/

i said this before, but he made pirate noises twice and never voted in the thread but voted in the polls

Who did Davos vote for? Who did he vote with?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:40 am I mean more the contents of the messages, not the action.

I think only a couple of them were messages.

The sending of secret santa was public, so that was discussed.

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:12 am A brief summary of everyone's pyxxy interactions for y'all in the other thread:

Delta: Prodded pyxxy to contribute more a couple of times, never really pushed them hard. At EoD, was more concerned about their wagon than pyxxy's.
Epignosis: One of the earlier voters on pyxxy, but only really had three real interactions with them.
falcon: Only player (besides 1-poster Spacedaisy) to never interact with pyxxy at all.
LC: Voted pyxxy last-minute; had no strong pyxxy interactions before then.
Abby: One of the earlier and more steadfast pyxxy voters.
Ricochet: Talked about pyxxy a couple times but never really established them as a suspicion.
Scrappy: Had pyxxy as their alleged biggest suspect (without much elaboration) only to switch to tunneling me by EoD.
sig: Voted pyxxy last-minute without ever interacting with them beforehand.
Sloonei: Originally voted pyxxy just to follow Epi without expressing a real read on them. Eventually just voted pyxxy because they were the "best" option
TSP: Only a couple of barely notable pyxxy mentions. Had the opportunity to switch their vote to pyxxy at EoD but didn't.

Would have liked to see leetic on a line in there.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:01 am Bold, half-baked take: the content in this thread so far has come overwhelmingly from town voices.

I'm currently comfortable with that, I had those same thoughts.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:59 pm [VOTE: DarlingMonroe] aubergine

Crossing the line! What'sssssss goin' on?

How do you guys feel about that Davos pirate guy?

I have front-row tickets, it's gonna be wild

Yeah, so much for Seanzie's long-held "tell" for Porscha.

Why haven't you given sig any thought?

My suspicion of sig goes like this:

I made a case on Seanzie on Day 1. He responded somewhat reasonably and I said "ok fair". Later someone asked me about it and I said the reasons I was suspicious. Seanzie reacted somewhat uncoolly, and it led to him accusing me of pushing his case all day, and also being reluctant to push the case, when I simply hadn't pushed it at all. So I got suspicious all over again and made a case surrounding those events. So that's "LC's case on Seanzie".

sig posted last-minute at EoD and it included him saying he likes "LC's case on Seanzie". Day 2, I asked him what he liked about my case, but he didn't respond. Later he repeated the words that he likes my case on Seanzie, once again without talking about the case, which parts he liked about it, why it makes Seanzie look bad, or any other reasons to suspect Seanzie.

It is highly unusual for anyone to say the words "I liked Long Con's case" at all, but that sig gave it lip service twice without elaborating, and without responding to me asking for more insight... I told him I think he was just laying groundwork to foster the appearance of suspecting Seanzie, but he responded with something like "well I haven't even gone after Seanzie, so that makes no sense".

Maybe it's only suspicious to me.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:43 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:22 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:14 pm I need to read over Sabi's posts now that Alison flipped town
I was pretty sure Alison was going to flip scum :/ it just felt like she was making up reasons to keep her PoE the same for a while

Thread had copium
I wish I had spoken up
More that she'd flip town

I had changed my mind
But did not convince others
Wolves were happy there

well yeah, *I* was happy there

What do you mean?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:20 pm I am curious
to hear the case on Delta
that has been mentioned


Curious that sig
and falcon are both suspects;
had early good vibes

It would be difficult to convey the Delta case here because it hinged almost entirely on interactions with pyxxy, and we can’t copy text from the other thread.

Paraphrasing could
still do some work to convince
if context is clear

Delta did some pushes early to get pyxxy to post more, and also voted on the counterwagon, and gave the reason that recent games they have been v-w, and Delta was hoping pyxxy would be v-v this time... or something like that. I wouldn't say that the logic for Delta being suspicious was unreasonable.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:26 pm My hope with thread merge
is that rather than counters
with one town one scum,

each clique votes their top
suspect and we end up with
two wolf/wolf wagons

At least for Day 3? I feel like my vote would be more honest on someone from our facility.

Seanziei was clear to tell us all about his message on the other side, but who knows?

If there are 30 people and only one mafia team, then what do you guys think, 6 Wolves? 7?

I think that someone would have mentioned something if they got a message but who knows? A Wolf might have kept the information to themselves. Let's see if anyone from our thread claims sending one.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:09 pm what reads list

Good question

@TonyStarkPrime Hey man, why don't you tell these nice people about your reads list?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:24 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:21 pm And you know what else? No one said anything about the breathing thing.

are we allowed to talk about that? if so, it might be helpful.

I originally thought there might be some planning or something, but I was super super busy busy yesterday and I couldn't find the time to do very many posts. So busy. Few posts.

And you know what else? No one said anything about the breathing thing.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:53 pm Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.

Ah ok, I haven't played one of these before. But that explains why Guillo said this forum was fond of multiball lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:54 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:51 pm Did you guys keep track of who sent who Secret Santa stuff? Any discussion on that front?

I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.

leetic sent one to Lime Coke.

that's... interesting
given that Lime Coke was scum

You know, I thought so...? But no one in our Facility seemed to care that much.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:31 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:25 pm Hi, other siders.

Someone tried to kill me last night, but failed.

that's fascinating
do you think you might have been
targeted by town?

I don't think so. I'm not 'top town', but I'm also not generally that suspected.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:52 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:51 pm Did you guys keep track of who sent who Secret Santa stuff? Any discussion on that front?

I can recheck the East thread if you're curious but I don't remember much discussion about it. I think there were 4 people who sent gifts to your thread.

leetic sent one to Lime Coke.

Given the fact that it's 30 players, and two old-school hosts, and that previous Champs games have been multiball, I would bet money on it.

Did you guys keep track of who sent who Secret Santa stuff? Any discussion on that front?