The Syndicate

So Spacedaisy was sort of neutral on my suspish list, maybe I'll have a look at her posts. What's she busy with?

Paul W.S. Anderson is the clear choice for me. I haven't been too passionate about any of the movies the other two have made... and although WS has made a number of questionable movies, I do like the choices he makes in what to direct. Cool subject matter, cool scenes, characteristically short on plot... but if you go into them knowing that, they are pretty cool movies.

Straight To Video, Uwe Boll!

I am very relieved that MM was indeed a baddie. So many suspected him all game, and it never quite went through until now... if he had turned up Civvie, that would have been, like, the last straw.

Why did he lock the thread while he was vote leader? Why wouldn't he wait and see if DF would overtake him? Perhaps DF is on his team? I don't really buy that (though I think DF is bad), but I lack a better reason for the locking of the thread at a point where Uwe gets lynched.

Dom wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Dom wrote:

Long Con wrote:I cast my vote for DFaraday, who now has tried to introduce thread actions resulting from baddie moves (the Llama kill, the Uwe Boll thing)... I think he's a baddie who wants certain results from those actions.

And where does that put you?

Where does it "put" me? I don't understand the question.

Precisely!

Well in that case, let's just say I have me RIGHT where I want me.

DFaraday wrote:

Long Con wrote:I cast my vote for DFaraday, who now has tried to introduce thread actions resulting from baddie moves (the Llama kill, the Uwe Boll thing)... I think he's a baddie who wants certain results from those actions.

How would you rather I play? Just vote people based on intuition?

I'm only concerned with deciding how I play... how you play is none of my business, really. This is MY suspicion, and it could be wrong or right. You could even be a baddie on the team that had nothing to do with either of those things, and I get lucky by lynching you. Or you could be a Civvie, and I'm wrong again, and the baddies benefit. I don't know, I just have to go with my suspicions.

Also, I don't want to derail a Metalmarsh lynch, I just have lost faith and steam on that trajectory. I still think he's bad, but it's just like I thought Made was bad.

Dom wrote:

Long Con wrote:I cast my vote for DFaraday, who now has tried to introduce thread actions resulting from baddie moves (the Llama kill, the Uwe Boll thing)... I think he's a baddie who wants certain results from those actions.

And where does that put you?

Where does it "put" me? I don't understand the question.

I cast my vote for DFaraday, who now has tried to introduce thread actions resulting from baddie moves (the Llama kill, the Uwe Boll thing)... I think he's a baddie who wants certain results from those actions.

My theory for the Roxy survival is best left unsaid, and I think that's probably in line with the reason Roxy and Llama are staying silent.

Not surprising to see a Confirmed Civvie killed, that's just smart baddie behaviour. See you next time, BWT!

Sorry, I don't have the bandwidth to be watching whole movies online. Also sorry I couldn't participate in the Birdman contest; I started listening to the interview, but I had to keep pausing to do things, and I never got back to it. Too busy, I guess, I hope you got some good entries! Also, it felt suspiciously like a school assignment of some sort.

Nice analysis Roxy. I'm pretty neutral on BR at this time, really.

I've been on and off about Metalmarsh all game, but more to the 'on' side. As in I think he's bad right now. I feel like I'm walking in a minefield full of Civvies.

I still suspect DFaraday for the Llama-LC thing, maybe I'll just try to find time for a reread of him and see if he conforms to what I think a smart baddie would do.

Surely one baddie team has killed at least one baddie from the other team. At least one. Maybe they've killed all baddies! Imagine seeing the Civs on the verge of victory after lynching only Civs. It would be one for the record books.

Not likely what we're actually dealing with though.

Another day, another Civvie lynched.

I voted for DFaraday for reasons already stated. I'm suspicious of both TH and Metalmarsh, but I don't want to be part of another Civvie lynch if it's wrong. I'm just not willing to follow another suspicion just because it sounds good, I want to go against some instincts and try something new.

Yes, it was to spotlight your double-use of the word "Interesting". There are some baddie tells in the language people use, and I have seen it before that a baddie will call something "interesting" without qualifying it much more, so that word has become a trigger word for my ping-o-meter, much like the overuse of adverbs.

Ricochet wrote:Interesting development, so far. I re-read TH the other night...

Long Con wrote:I don't like following suspicions that sound good anymore. All it has done for me is lead me to lynch Civvies. I might have to vote for Spacedaisy today, because I don't suspect her.

Interesting 180 there, LC.

Interesting.

Ok, but if you look at it from my point of view, the baddies try to frame me, and it's not totally catching on, so I watch for who tries to push it. You did, and though you say what you just said, that looks like you backing off. I'm sure you can appreciate that perspective.

No, wait, I mean DFaraday! DFaraday is the one that will probably get my vote today. He knows why.

I don't like following suspicions that sound good anymore. All it has done for me is lead me to lynch Civvies. I might have to vote for Spacedaisy today, because I don't suspect her.

Turnip Head wrote:I don't know MM. I'm lost as fuck. I honestly don't mind being lynched today... As a civvie, this game has been a miserable existence. (Not that I haven't enjoyed it immensely Mongoose, because I have!) Being lynched would validate my thoughts on voting records, for one. It would also be a fun exercise in how discovery roles can be healthy for the game because of how easily they can be misinterpreted.

I'm already seeing this game as a lesson in going after quiet players as baddies, given our record so far. I definitely plan to study the baddies after this game is done and their roles are revealed, and I will be far quicker to accuse those players FOR quiet play based on this game.

DFaraday wrote:I haven't gone over the case on TH just yet (I'm about to), but is everyone just ignoring that Llama said he intended to vote for LC today and then gets killed that very night? I doubt LC would be that unsubtle, but I think it strengthens the need to look into his posts/votes more closely.

So you're the one.

I'm definitely a Civvie here.

Good luck with that.

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I had to walk away for 24 hours. I suck, and I am sorry

Don't be sorry. What do you think of Long Con? His last couple of posts have me firmly distrusting him.

Why?

thellama73 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Sorry, Made, at the risk of sounding cliché, I really thought we had a baddie that time.

I PMed the host, and she told me that Uwe Boll can use the power at will, there doesn't seem to be a triggering mechanism.

We're being really crappy Civvies. I may have forgotten how to be an effective Civvie, after being Black Knight and Gollum and Miles Axelrod, and in the Monopoly game I was LMS very early on... I am just not a good Civvie anymore.

This, combined with your vote post for made, which was all "golly gee, TH! Good point! I sure am convinced!" has earned you my vote tomorrow.

Do what you gotta do.

Sorry, Made, at the risk of sounding cliché, I really thought we had a baddie that time.

I PMed the host, and she told me that Uwe Boll can use the power at will, there doesn't seem to be a triggering mechanism.

We're being really crappy Civvies. I may have forgotten how to be an effective Civvie, after being Black Knight and Gollum and Miles Axelrod, and in the Monopoly game I was LMS very early on... I am just not a good Civvie anymore.

As for Llama... still seems slimy to me, but I'm willing to wait another day to deal with that.

TH, fantastic job on the Made research! That's looks like some top-quality analysis to me, and it put Made on top of my list, so I will vote for him now.

*votes Made*

S~V~S wrote:*barf

Bass_the_Clever wrote:LC, who are your top three suspects?

Glad you asked. I'm still of the mindset that Llama is a baddie, and if I recall correctly, I think that MM and Made are on his team as well.

And that's my top three!!!

Don't worry, Canuck, I get ignored a lot too, even when I'm crying and tearing out my beard to lynch someone. I think they're anti-Canadian.

Turnip Head wrote:As for why I don't think voting records matter yet... We haven't caught a baddie yet, so we can't argue that any votes were cast to save teammates. People tried to apply this logic on Day 2 and 3 and it resulted in the lynching of two civs. Analyzing voting records at this point will lead to all sorts of wrong conclusions and already has. We need to lynch a baddie before voting records will mean anything. If there's a certain vote that piques your interest or feels out of place, I'm all ears, but voting records in general just don't mean much yet.

We could look at voting records for the people who did NOT vote to lynch a Civvie... coming from the idea that baddies have a better idea of who is Civvie and who is not, they might avoid what they perceive to be a Civvie "lynch train" in the hopes that NOT lynching a Civvie could make them seem more Civvie... and then go after the Civvies who did the lynching.

Mongoose wrote:*Required Watching: Un Chien Andalou


Perhaps the most known collab between Luis Buñuel and Salvador Dali.

* Required Watching for life, not for the game.

Zany.

What are you saying, Metalmarsh, you think we should lynch S~V~S?

RIP Timmer!

Also: "He's got to face a gunfight once more to live up to his legend once more. To win just one more time."

What is this I don't even

*shake*

Turnip Head wrote:My eyes are bleeding

You're talking about your avatar, right?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Wow, I think I want to talk like this all the time!

This is freaking awesome.

I know, right??

This should be a new insanifier.

Hey, what are you trying to say?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Wow, I think I want to talk like this all the time!

This is freaking awesome.

I know, right??

Made wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Made wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Made wrote:Also, Just noticed, Gag's off for Champion game. My chain of thinking right now is Llama might be trying to pull what i pulled in that game. Give someone attention, then absolving them, thus removing them from most people's radar.

I think that's what you're doing for Llama right now. Baddies together.

The amount of meta required for that would be unreal, and while I'm not doing that this game, i wish i were solely because I'm curious if i could get away with it.

What's unreal about it? You and Llama are baddies together, and you say a bunch of stuff about him but absolve him at the same time.

While making an argument saying that he and SVS are doing the same thing. It'd be brilliant, but a little too on the nose for my taste...maybe one day tho...

If you're doing it, it's on your mind. Thus, it's not a big leap to apply the idea to someone else, especially when it's an easy plan to accuse someone of trying.

Made wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Made wrote:Also, Just noticed, Gag's off for Champion game. My chain of thinking right now is Llama might be trying to pull what i pulled in that game. Give someone attention, then absolving them, thus removing them from most people's radar.

I think that's what you're doing for Llama right now. Baddies together.

The amount of meta required for that would be unreal, and while I'm not doing that this game, i wish i were solely because I'm curious if i could get away with it.

What's unreal about it? You and Llama are baddies together, and you say a bunch of stuff about him but absolve him at the same time.

Made wrote:Also, Just noticed, Gag's off for Champion game. My chain of thinking right now is Llama might be trying to pull what i pulled in that game. Give someone attention, then absolving them, thus removing them from most people's radar.

I think that's what you're doing for Llama right now. Baddies together.

Made wrote:Not really. I mean, I have far less mafia experience than all three of you, and I pulled it, and pretty successfully

What exactly did you pull?

Regardless of personal antidotes, numbers don't lie.

Is someone poisoned?

We need to find some baddies. It's hard.

thellama73 wrote:To address your last point, my leading civvie lynches is the exact opposite of dodging accountability. I am responsible for those lynches. I led them, I argued for them, I voted for them. Anyone can look at the record and see that they are my fault and judge me accordingly. In my experience, baddies are more careful than that.

So, you are an experienced player, so you would know that baddies might be expected to be more careful than that... so you could act in a different way, and then say the above.

True enough about the move to lynch you, Llama. But it's a really tough decision, and if you're a baddie, we can't let you keep going. Very tough decision.

Dom plays like that pretty regularly, as I recall. Asking questions, so very much. Asking this person what they think of that person. Might be worth looking back at his games, though, to see if he does it all the time, or just when bad.