The Syndicate

I should clarify, when I said "I don't see any on the board", I was talking about the Light Blues. I think that was clear, but you never know.

Oh, shit. You're right.

Epignosis wrote:
Long Con wrote: No houses or hotels yet, though.
Why do you say that?

Well, because I don't see any on the board, and the people who landed on them didn't get charged those rates.

That's a cheap building area, it's interesting that they didn't put up hotels right away.

I was looking at the Pastebin to confirm juliets' observations, and I just wanted to say "HA HA Waterworks, you only made 4x the dice roll instead of 10x! Burn in hell, Electric Company!"

That's for killing my wife.

Well, Wife 1.0.

juliets wrote:Both Connecticut and Oriental also got twice their rent (the two partners of Vermont) so I think it is safe to say that group is whole.

Looks like it. I wonder how long before we see more pop up. No houses or hotels yet, though.

Yes, I have Hedgeowl as the Windfall winner as well.

I took llama's comment to bea to mean "Bea gets points for posting 11 times in a row" whereas I think bea took it to mean "I'm pointing at bea, pointing out a flagrant undecuple-poster!" At least, I think that's what happened, looks like it was taken the wrong way?

I also believe I recall one of the rules in bidding is that you have to beat the last person's bid by what you bid, possible $200 bonus notwithstanding. So Turnip Head would have had to bid $11 in order to beat Lorab's $205.

Turnip Head may be bad, but I don't believe he won the auction for Electric Company and lied about it... so it's not really valid to suspect him for that. Llama's case feels solid and doesn't include the auction result - my eye is definitely back on TH, and I haven't forgotten my early theory about him trusting Epig.

Wow, lots going on! Sorry I wasn't around last night, real life sometimes has to take priority.

I feel like I have so many things to comment on.

I also loved "freakwently". That is a truly awesome typo, never seen the like.

Shout out to Diamond Dog, the original FEB - he had that title locked down long before I had even won my first game as a baddie.

Here's a fun tidbit, the series of FEB Smileys that Lorab critiqued and requested slight changes to until we got the one we know and love today:

I like Epig's case on Boogs, there does seem to be some meat there despite Boogs' denial. I would gladly vote for Boogs, and I'm not ashamed to admit it's partially because his main goal in this game is to get me dead.

HOWEVER... why has no one mentioned Hedgeowl's survival? Turnip Head, did you use your protect on her? 'Cause otherwise... she's a baddie. Right? I don't know why it hasn't been mentioned yet.

I watched The Electric Company as a young child up here in Ontario.

Roughly 30 years ago.

Epignosis wrote:Guys, while I applaud your enthusiasm for detective work, it may help if you realize that you've already caught Electric Company and are now looking for Water Works.

My hunch is that our suspect always leaves the water running as a calling card.

Shit, the Wet Bandits? *begins constructing possibly fatal traps all through house*

Good thinking, TH, if the Utilities had discovered a railroad, it's likely that they would want to use that knowledge to lynch the railroad. And the railroads knew that the Utilities had one of them caught... so perhaps they would have been watching for someone who came out against the role-discovered RR, and moved to lynch that person ASAP.

I'm too lazy to go through BWT's posts right now, who's gonna do it?

Turnip Head wrote:Players the Utilities knew the roles of before BWT died:

Elohcin (now BR2.0)
Lorab
TH
Daisy
FZ
Keys
Hedgeowl

Zeek also landed on EC on Day 2, according to my notes.

Turnip Head of Splintsy-Splints! I know that villain, for when I was last in Splinsty-Splints, he did spill my Creme Dubusque down the length of my tunic! And nary an apology!

The Creme Dubusque being the traditional cocktail of Splintsy-Splints, or course.

LoRab wrote:Heyyyyyyyyy....you......guyssssssss.......

Did I just date myself terribly? Please. Someone else have gotten that.

Never say die, Lorab!

A Utility dies, and the beautiful lady who was killed by the Utilities returns! I'd say that's a good way to end a day.

Who won today's bids?

Switching my vote now to birdwithteeth, to gain access to the $200 bidding bonus on his property, and to widen the gap between him and myself.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Long Con, I went back and did a reread of your 'case' on me. I just realized that half of it I don't understand, and half of it is pretty much a No U. Do you mind reexplaining yourself?

Ok, well, I originally laid out the "Baddies Who Profess Trust in Civvies to Gain Trust and Foster Feelings of Synergy With Them" concept here:

Long Con wrote:In a recent game, I correctly called out Lorab and Canucklehead as baddies, because they trusted me and openly said they thought I was Civvie in the thread, multiple times. I found it suspicious, because I was a baddie, and I started to try to figure out why they thought I was Civvie. I came to the conclusion that they probably hoped I was Civvie, but that they were simply saying those things in order to placate me, or to make me feel more in sync with them in the thread. It was a way of acting that was, at its core, intended to make themselves seem more Civvie.

I'm not saying that Metalmarsh and Turnip Head are baddies. I am saying that their trust in Epignosis on Day One fits the basic points of what Lorab and Canucklehead were doing in that game, in that they don't have anything much to go on to say they trust him. It could be viewed as a way for baddies to set up a trust-warmed in-thread relationship with a player that they believe would be a better ally than enemy.

And, well, Epig is that sort of player.

I thought that what you and TH were doing with your early trust in Epignosis fit that theory. I presented the possibility, and the way you reacted (in contrast with TH's reaction) made me suspect that I had hit a nerve with you.

Your first post after mine above:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Of course, I'd just like to say right now (for any murderous, property-hungry baddies that are reading) that if I ever win the bid for a property, it will IMMEDIATELY be put up for private trade, and be gone from my possession before the next night kill lands.
What if I don't believe you?

What is this, just lashing out at me for... what reason? It really strikes me as weird.

Your next post to me, you say you're not suspicious of me:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Also, LC, what exactly is your case against Epig? Do you think he's bad, or is it that you don't agree with TH's early read of Epig? Sorry if I'm making you repeat yourself, but I might have missed your reasoning somewhere.
I got nothing much against Epig. He got my vote Day One, but he's not my biggest suspicion right now. I don't really want him to be lynched, I'd rather see how his game goes after the start he chose.
And that's exactly how I felt on Day 1. I didn't want Epi to be lynched, so I voted the closest person to him in vote totals. You happened to be one of a couple people tied at 1, so you got my vote.

No I'm not suspicious of you, I just don't agree with your strategies. I also don't agree with FZ.

Then in your next post to me, you imply that I'm bad again:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:Good point, I was wrong there. They couldn't kill one of their own. So I guess now I'm a railroad who's intentionally getting some things wrong about my own role...?
Well, Made didn't misunderstand his role on purpose.

I hope this clarifies my suspicion of you, Metalmarsh. From these quotes, I observe that you went straight to acting like I am untrustworthy, then say you don't suspect me, then you go back to suggesting I'm a baddie. That behaviour just looks bad to me.

thellama73 wrote:In fact, why don't I just play all the roles.

If you played all the roles, would the Civvies or Baddies win?

keys56000000000 wrote:
I'm interested in hearing from keys, as he's been very quiet after the searching debate and not said much about suspicions.
People didn't like what I had to say. The one person who did was lynched for it. A few people have accused me of disrespecting Boo and his game. It continues to be said. So, yeah. Now I'm just trying to be polite and run out the clock so the game keep moving. And what is there to say, anyway? The consensus seems to be that we're all intending to ditch the civs, if we live long enough. So why communicate anything to my competitors?

Keys, you clearly forgot to get your sensitivity inoculation after hanging out with Chris last game.

I wish to clarify myself on a point. When I say I want to play the game "the way boo intended", I don't mean that playing another way is a sign of disrespect for boo. We could play where we all agree to never bid for properties, and never search for allies, and it would be a much less multi-dimensional game that way. It's a valid way to play, and a legit use of this "playground" as I believe S~V~S called it.

When I say this is the way boo intended for us to play, I mean that he gave us these tools and these unique opportunities that only exist in Monopoly Mafia, and I think it would be a waste of boo's creativity for us to avoid exploring these things. We can play a lot of other games as Civvies who stay Civvie and just baddies to find, and no concept of trade, money, ownership, and lots of other stuff that comes with Monopoly Mafia. THIS is the game where we can do more, play differently, and I want to embrace that concept.

You can 'go dark' and get grumpy about it, or you can fight against it, or you too can embrace it. It's up to you. I hope that I've cleared that up for you, and can now wash my hands of any responsibility for your emotions forthwith.

keys56000000000 wrote:I know you know I don't mean to kill civs. That I mean to kill mafia. My whole lame plan revolved around that crux. But you keep denying it.

Keys, you never responded to my last attempt to deal with this post... I cut out a clip that I think illustrates the core of your issue with me.

You say your plan is supposed to kill Mafia, and is not supposed to kill Civs. The reason I would deny such a claim is that I'm a Civ, and you are trying to lynch me because I won the Autofind prize and used it to find a partner. You say you want to kill Mafia, but there's no case and no reason to think that I'm Mafia. So, although I do read English quite well, I do not understand the meaning of the words I'm reading.

You know that I know you say you don't want to kill Civs. Why don't you put your vote where your mouth is and vote someone you actually think is Mafia, instead of voting me for finding a Civ BTSC partner.

Hannah wrote:.
So maybe in the end it might be better to lynch someone from a suspected set rather than mistakingly lynching a civvie with no set...

That would not be better. I am not in a set, I am a Civvie with a Civvie BTSC partner. This game is designed so that the Civvies get an advantage through BTSC pairs. Don't look away from baddies and lynch me, please.

Well, that was a big post, MP, that didn't really say anything new, just being excessively wordy about "Llama trusts LC for some reason. I think they would be obvious about it in a WIFOM attempt to trick people into thinking they're not partners."

It doesn't matter how strongly you claim to feel about it, no amount of feelings are going to make it true , or even sensible. Something is off about you this game, between you pushing as hard as you can on a very weak case, and you accusing people and then taking it back... And so many random questions, "hey A, what do you think of B?" "Who are your suspicions, C?" ... It's like, look how pro-Civvie I am being!

S~V~S wrote:
Boogs wrote:This changes my whole perception of the situation that LC could have been a color set, and that in fact he could have auto searched a Railroad if Llama was already found. I agree his behavior was iffy on Day 0 and I agree with MP on the total turnabout on Llama. He did a fake back and forth with Bullzeye in Monty where i didn't bite on it too much and they played me at the end when they were distancing teammates. I would NOT put past LC to do it here again with Llama. Not to mention Llama and him having fake arguments today on "don't ruin my game" and stuff to now them not after each other again and focusing lights on me and MM to get out of the radar.

So you want to lynch them whether they are baddies or LMS? LMS without a kill is better than a civvie, but i would still rather find a baddie. And even if we are to accept that they have BTS now, how do you know it is baddie BTS, not civvie BTS?

Did either LC or Llama land on a utility?

Like I said, there's nothing that's been said about a reason why I'd be a baddie, except that MP and Boogs find it very easy to make their "case" against me and tack on "or he's a baddie" at the end for no logical reason.

Neither of us has landed on a Utility.

Boogs wrote:Mp I feel like a total dumb cat. I re-ead and realized that Railroads Do NOT start with BTSC like mafia usually do, only the utilities do. So it makes total sense now Llama and LC are railroads and they found the third with the auto search. I was under the impression of normal rules that Baddies start with BtSC. I am on it now buddy and same page. Let's get them.

It makes no more sense than it ever has that Llama and I are Railroads. There's nothing anywhere that points to that as any more likely than a Civvie explanation. You are clearly severely blinded by your own misguided sense of glory. I'm not a Railroad, I am only a guy who decided to bid strong for a good prize, and there's nothing but your Quixotic stubbornness that has even pointed that way. Don't take a situation in a previous game and shove it crudely into this one, this is not that game.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Why wouldn't he? WIFOM. It's so unbelievably ridiculous, why would he ever do it? Can you instead give me a totally different reason for him doing that, LC? And I'm not pretending that, it's because I know Llama incredibly well that I believe he would be willing to do something like this.

I'm not riding on Boogs's anything, I've openly criticized him.

Keys also pointed out that you're harping on points that aren't true.

Keys' issue has nothing to do with anything you're talking about, but I guess you'll grasp at any straw in a storm. (Now S~V~S is a baddie too? Busy boy.

)

Your "planned WIFOM" concept is empty, Llama would gain no benefit from it as my teammate. It undeniably creates a seeming connection between us, no matter how things go moving forward. There's no angle that Llama could take to deny it, were I to someday turn up baddie. Whatever he's doing, it's not what you''re saying, because doing what you're saying makes no sense for any reason.

You usually make a lot more sense in your arguments, this one only takes a little bit of analysis to show that it's just not likely. Are you usually the "dog with a bone" type of player, or do you change your suspicions when different ideas are presented, or your own ideas are proven not-so-realistic? I thought you were the second type, but your gameplay here has me puzzled about you.

Keys, I just looked through your posts, and I don't see anything that says you're doing anything but lynching me for using the Autofind prize. I don't see anything that makes it seem like you believe me to be Mafia. Can you help me out here?

Epignosis wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:Linki:
I ain't laughin.

Did you use your Chance card and get free?

keys56000000000 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
fingersplints wrote:I'm not understanding the case on LC. Boogs pushing it seems incredibly sketchy. His motivation and suspicion seems unclear. I haven't had much time to read your posts about it tbh. I've had little time outside of work though, and what I had was focused on the Zelda game. Since I am no longer in that hopefully I can get my head fully into this one and look at that some.
I'm also thinking that those supporting it could have shady motives. I mean, they're actively pushing a plan that specifically advocates going after prize winners and Civvies who have found BTSC partners over looking for baddies.
I feel like I keep repeating myself here. LC knows that I'm not specifically advocating that, but he keeps repeating it. Long Con, you can read, right? Words, I mean. Written in English. Right? Je peux passer au français si cela aide? Of course you can read. Because I know you know I don't mean to kill civs. That I mean to kill mafia. My whole lame plan revolved around that crux. But you keep denying it. I don't expect you to be so unreasonable - the only explanation is that you are a mafioso.

Ok, I think I must have skimmed a post. I assumed you voted for me for the same reason Boogs was. You think I'm Mafia? I'll review your posts and respond more directly then, sorry to vex you so.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't understand how people are misrepresenting my case. In it, LC and Llama can either be railroads or LMSers. No one has refuted either of those interpretations. Either Boogs doesn't understand my theory or he is still suspecting LC based on his own theory, which is fine, but I just want this to be made clear.

My theory is thus:

1) Llama's switch of opinion on LC, as incredibly radical as it is, occurred because they gained BTSC Night 1.
2) LC's pursuit of and subsequent use of the autofind means that they both have BTSC with a third person, after Night 2 -- meaning, either if they are railroads or properties, they have either established their railroad team of three or a monopoly, both of which are civvie threats.

I don't take Llama's defense of "give me more credit!" as having any merit because:
1) It is WIFOM.
2) I believe if Llama really felt LC's change in behavior warranted THAT strong of an opinion alteration, he would have elaborated upon it originally, instead of just saying "I can read LC, and he looks good to me now!" He even says "his behavior since" or something to that effect, meaning he didn't even think that his behavior D1 and before warranted reevaluation on its own merit. It's very sloppy, IMO, but I could see Llama doing this if he thought he could get away with his WIFOM defense and/or hoping no one noticed it and pursued his lynch because of it.
Nope. Suspect Llama all you like, I'm not connected to him in any way, he's just trying to mess with me or something with this trust crap.

I'm on my phone and it's hard to search, what is it that makes me any more likely to be a railroad than you?
Than me? Well, I know I'm not a railroad, but I understand what you're getting at. I only strongly believe my theory to be true, and I believe you utilized the Autofind for the reason I extrapolated. It would make sense if you were a railroad or a newly-turned LMS civvie, or even a civvie, but I just don't believe the third possibility is true.

Again, my interpretation. And I really think I'm onto something.

I find it hard to believe you even believe that Llama would even do that, it's like noobier than what a noob would do. He gets BTSC with me, and just plows into the thread and does a 180 for really no reason? Are we talking about the same Llama here? It's like you are pretending you've never played a game with him before.

Llama's agenda here is his own, and the fact that you're pushing so hard on this weak theory while riding on the coattails of Boogs' questionable outlook makes me wonder what your real motives are.

Boogs wrote:Splints i am not being shady. I expressed my opinion on LC finding his teammate and possibly getting the third and start bankrupting us. A monopoly this early is just as dangerous as a mafia member. I am suggesting he could be bluffing also and is mafia. Its a win win for me and i stand by my decision regardless what other disagree with me on it. Im Civ and alone, and it makes most sense to cast my vote on LC. Not changing my mind.

First of all, suggesting I could be Mafia is deceptive, because there's no case and no reason to think I'm any more Mafia than you or anyone else. It's just making it look like you want me out personally, whether I'm Civ, LMS, or baddie, and I don't know why you'd do that.

Why can't you just stick to your "case" (which is much less a case than a 'punish anyone who gets a prize' way of playing the game) and let it speak for itself? Why all the "also he could be Mafia so that's cool too" rhetoric?

I feel like there was one more person in there, but I wasn't talking about anyone specific who I thought gave specifically baddie vibes, I was speaking more broadly about the fact that this is something that the baddies would love to get on board with: trying to lynch Civvies who have BTSC who may or may not end up going LMS.

fingersplints wrote:I'm not understanding the case on LC. Boogs pushing it seems incredibly sketchy. His motivation and suspicion seems unclear. I haven't had much time to read your posts about it tbh. I've had little time outside of work though, and what I had was focused on the Zelda game. Since I am no longer in that hopefully I can get my head fully into this one and look at that some.

I'm also thinking that those supporting it could have shady motives. I mean, they're actively pushing a plan that specifically advocates going after prize winners and Civvies who have found BTSC partners over looking for baddies.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:So what exactly is the case on MM again? I think I must have missed it.

Did you miss everything I said leading up to the Day Two lynch, when I voted Metalmarsh? Nothing has changed my opinion much from then to now, and if people are willing to throw some votes his way, well, he's my main suspicion.

Just let me know if you need me to remind you of the case I made back then, otherwise I'll let some of the newer Metalmarsh suspecters fill you in on their version of the case.

Voting Metalmarsh for now.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't understand how people are misrepresenting my case. In it, LC and Llama can either be railroads or LMSers. No one has refuted either of those interpretations. Either Boogs doesn't understand my theory or he is still suspecting LC based on his own theory, which is fine, but I just want this to be made clear.

My theory is thus:

1) Llama's switch of opinion on LC, as incredibly radical as it is, occurred because they gained BTSC Night 1.
2) LC's pursuit of and subsequent use of the autofind means that they both have BTSC with a third person, after Night 2 -- meaning, either if they are railroads or properties, they have either established their railroad team of three or a monopoly, both of which are civvie threats.

I don't take Llama's defense of "give me more credit!" as having any merit because:
1) It is WIFOM.
2) I believe if Llama really felt LC's change in behavior warranted THAT strong of an opinion alteration, he would have elaborated upon it originally, instead of just saying "I can read LC, and he looks good to me now!" He even says "his behavior since" or something to that effect, meaning he didn't even think that his behavior D1 and before warranted reevaluation on its own merit. It's very sloppy, IMO, but I could see Llama doing this if he thought he could get away with his WIFOM defense and/or hoping no one noticed it and pursued his lynch because of it.

Nope. Suspect Llama all you like, I'm not connected to him in any way, he's just trying to mess with me or something with this trust crap.

I'm on my phone and it's hard to search, what is it that makes me any more likely to be a railroad than you?

And that also flies in the face of my whole theory that a baddie could put trust publicly in a Civ, Boogs. Don't trust Llama when I flip Civ, lynch him next!

Or just change your vote and play a better, more fun game where you don't just take someone out for winning a prize, and instead focus on baddies.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm keeping my vote where it is.

Is that vote now changeable, poll-functionality-wise?

Turnip Head wrote:I'm potentially looking at a MetalMarsh vote today and wondering how much support there would be behind that.

My main suspect from before this day, and nothing has changed my opinion.

Boogs wrote:
Long Con wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:LC, you seem to be saying that you wouldn't be as much of a threat as the mafia, but it doesn't matter to the civ if they land on a mafia-owned hotel or a non-mafia-owned hotel. Sure, mafia have the NK, but a player with a hotel is still a threat to the civs.
Do you see a hotel? I have one BTSC partner, that's it.
But you each have a chance to find teammate 3 tonight. We have a one chance.

Can you show me where you supported keys' ideas from Day Zero? No, because you didn't say a single word about it. Now you are 100% in support of his ideals, you want to lynch a Civvie for finding one BTSC partner. Why so quiet about the concept earlier on, and so vehement about it now? It doesn't make sense to me, you opinion changing so drastically. If that's the way you felt about success, then the time to say it was days ago, when it was the hot topic in the thread.

Is it really a Civvie thing to do to wait until it happens and then come out strong to rally the thread against it? Is it a stand-up thing to do as a player? If you had made your feelings known then, then I might have said "Geez, if I bid for the Autofind then Boogs will go all spaz on me!" but you said nothing. Nothing while the bidding was happening, nothing until after it was all over.

I found a partner. Guess what. I'm probably not the only one. I'm still a Civvie. I will never be a baddie, and I may become a Last Man Standing in the future. I may not, I may stay Civvie until the end of the game.

keys56000000000 wrote:LC, you seem to be saying that you wouldn't be as much of a threat as the mafia, but it doesn't matter to the civ if they land on a mafia-owned hotel or a non-mafia-owned hotel. Sure, mafia have the NK, but a player with a hotel is still a threat to the civs.

Do you see a hotel? I have one BTSC partner, that's it.

keys56000000000 wrote:
LC wrote: The worst I could do is build hotels and hope someone lands on them.
Civs are the vast majority in this game - you hope they'll land on your hotel? I can see how having a hotel would help you, but how will it help us? And will it really help you?

First of all you are taking that statement out of context, and then asking what I mean by part of it.

Long Con wrote:Even if I find my third colour group person tonight, even if I ALREADY found that person, there's no comparison at all to the level of danger the baddies pose. The worst I could do is build hotels and hope someone lands on them. The baddies are collecting properties all the time. The baddies are making lots of money. This money can be used to bid and win lynched properties.

There's the sentence in context. As you can see, I wasn't saying "Well, I hope lots of people land on my hotel!", I was comparing my earning potential to the baddies' earning potential.

Turnip Head wrote:I'm also wary of Hedgeowl being quiet, especially after the last game.

Ha! I was just thinking "Boogs wants to come after me for being a sneaky baddie in Monty Python?? What about Hedgeowl and her extended gang of superthugs who were laughing at all of us while they ran the whole game?"

Turnip Head wrote:Either way LC, you had to have known that getting that power would make you a target. Don't hate us, we're just playing the game too!

How's everybody feeling about Metalmarsh these days? He's on my list of players who are just barely paying enough attention. He seems to just be "going along with it"

I thought probably a target for the baddies, I really thought we were not going in that direction with the lynches.

Boogs wrote:
Long Con wrote:Ok, fine, I was hoping that enough people playing aren't just out to punish people who win prizes or buy properties. I thought bidding on cool stuff was going to be a fun and interesting part of the game, and not an instant death sentence. If I was wrong, then I misjudged the game and the players and I'll be lynched today for it.

I thought we were going to focus on the baddies. I thought I could find a partner and be strengthened by getting BTSC and use that to help find and lynch the baddies. I think it would be a more fun game for everyone if we played that way, and I also think that it would be smarter. Even if I find my third colour group person tonight, even if I ALREADY found that person, there's no comparison at all to the level of danger the baddies pose. The worst I could do is build hotels and hope someone lands on them. The baddies are collecting properties all the time. The baddies are making lots of money. This money can be used to bid and win lynched properties.

Let's just focus on the baddies and stop trying to take me out because I found a partner.

Nice try to sway us not to vote you. I ultimately can see you being mafia and bluffing us again. You're a good liar LC, I have seen it firsthand .

There has been no case made that points to me being a baddie. Stop pretending you're doing anything but trying to lynch me for winning an Autofind.

Boogs wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Llama and LC both seem super upset over these new allegations, wonder if that means anything.
Distancing and anger maybe?

Quit being so smug. You're wrong.

Ok, fine, I was hoping that enough people playing aren't just out to punish people who win prizes or buy properties. I thought bidding on cool stuff was going to be a fun and interesting part of the game, and not an instant death sentence. If I was wrong, then I misjudged the game and the players and I'll be lynched today for it.

I thought we were going to focus on the baddies. I thought I could find a partner and be strengthened by getting BTSC and use that to help find and lynch the baddies. I think it would be a more fun game for everyone if we played that way, and I also think that it would be smarter. Even if I find my third colour group person tonight, even if I ALREADY found that person, there's no comparison at all to the level of danger the baddies pose. The worst I could do is build hotels and hope someone lands on them. The baddies are collecting properties all the time. The baddies are making lots of money. This money can be used to bid and win lynched properties.

Let's just focus on the baddies and stop trying to take me out because I found a partner.

Boogs wrote:
Long Con wrote:I didn't ask for Llama to pull this crap, and I sure as hell wouldn't ask or want a teammate (and future possible LMS partner) to be doing it. We are not partners, I don't know this man, at the very least lynch him before me please.

What "powers" did I win?? I got an Autofind and used it. I don't have whatever "powers" we're talking about. All I have now is LESS money than Llama, and therefore LESS access to future bids.
Less money? How do WE know that? We move on the board every night. You could have tons as far as we know which was okay for you to buy that auto find.

All YOU know is what has been publicly shown, and it was publicly shown that I am down $400-something for the Autofind, and Llama is not. Anything else is blind finger-pointing. I'm not one of the big money-makers in this game, I'm just not.

thellama73 wrote:I am frankly insulted that you guys think my mafia game is so artless that I would just switch from saying "LC is bad" to "LC is good" because of BTS info. I actually hate when people do that. It is against the spirit of the game. My turnaround on LC was based purely on his in thread behavior. I have not yet found a member of my team. I search SVS night one and she was killed. I searched MP night 2, and he is not on my team.

As for who I'm voting for today, I don't know yet. Looks like I may have to save myself, so we'll see. But I am interested in some of the middle-of-the-road players between chatty and silent.

How about next time, you stay out of my shit, ok?

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Long Con wrote:Contrived, my ass, MP. There's nothign contrived in that post, and it really upsets me that you said that. I wrote that whole thing before even seeing your case about me and Llama.

At least lynch Llama instead. I swear to GOD that he is messing with me with this trust stuff, and he is NOT my partner! Llama today, me tomorrow, don't let him take me down like this.
You're distancing like in Monty Python with Bullz. I don't buy it. Not letting you swindle your way to the end and outsmart me this game, taking you out while I can stop you.

You are a cat with your claws into something so tight that you will make yourself see anything that supports you and nothing that doesn't. You are lynching me solely because I bought the Autofind, at least admit it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:LC, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but I'm calling your post out because it dripped contrived all throughout. That's my interpretation. If you don't mean it that way, sorry, but I highly doubt that is the case now. Sorry bud.

You are wrong, I meant every word I typed in that post, and it reflects my actual thoughts on the situation. Llama is not my partner.

I didn't ask for Llama to pull this crap, and I sure as hell wouldn't ask or want a teammate (and future possible LMS partner) to be doing it. We are not partners, I don't know this man, at the very least lynch him before me please.

What "powers" did I win?? I got an Autofind and used it. I don't have whatever "powers" we're talking about. All I have now is LESS money than Llama, and therefore LESS access to future bids.

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