The Syndicate

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:40 pm Oh gee Chop Chop

tough question

idk which but whatever LC says must be right

Almost slipped. So close to the finish line. Bolt sbit mpo.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:39 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:38 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:35 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:33 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:03 pm If I'm already outed as town, what kind of fakeclaim should I give to deceive the wolves? Just claim vanilla?

LC did say this on Day 1.
That was just to try and mess with wolves, maybe draw a nightkill.

I know, my point is that I doubt you're a PR because this does look like cover, and so you're either VT or wolf.
You're not wrong.
Is that a VT Hardclaim or an Open Wolf?

Already said, go back and read.

Except I really did.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:35 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:33 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:03 pm If I'm already outed as town, what kind of fakeclaim should I give to deceive the wolves? Just claim vanilla?

LC did say this on Day 1.
That was just to try and mess with wolves, maybe draw a nightkill.

I know, my point is that I doubt you're a PR because this does look like cover, and so you're either VT or wolf.

You're not wrong.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:34 pm Pretty much has to be the slaver kill at this point

Why can't it just be an Enclave kill?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:03 pm If I'm already outed as town, what kind of fakeclaim should I give to deceive the wolves? Just claim vanilla?

LC did say this on Day 1.

That was just to try and mess with wolves, maybe draw a nightkill.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:32 pm jack is most likely the slaver yeah? not really interested in voting there.
not sure how/why lc is escaping the noose

Because you'd miss me too much.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:27 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:26 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:07 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I would not like to see TSP get deleted here.

Syn could be double-voting here, thus making that the leading wagon and I firmly believe that TSP is town.

LC is likely town to me as well, but if I have to choose who dies here I would rather it be LC.
So you are covering TSP, and Epi is covering Kyle. Crappy to see the likely non-LC candidates getting fine patronages.

How about Jack?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:11 pm LC tonereads to me as town, which means he's probably mafia actually
That's not how I operate, and never has been.
How ya feeling about Dom

I really thought his early game arguments were town Dom. It's my read, I hate to go back on it. But I would vote him to save my life.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:07 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I would not like to see TSP get deleted here.

Syn could be double-voting here, thus making that the leading wagon and I firmly believe that TSP is town.

LC is likely town to me as well, but if I have to choose who dies here I would rather it be LC.

So you are covering TSP, and Epi is covering Kyle. Crappy to see the likely non-LC candidates getting fine patronages.

How about Jack?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:11 pm LC tonereads to me as town, which means he's probably mafia actually

That's not how I operate, and never has been.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:34 pm I looked at your Epi case, it looks like you're making the same (or similar) case on him that he made on Kyle.

That's weird, that wasn't intentional.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:20 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:21 pm I think LC's cluelessness is a scumtell for this game hahaha
@Long Con

He just doesn't know me well enough.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:11 pm One could make an argument that LC is paying attention because he didn't use brackets.

But I think he's just mafia.

Is the premise that I don't pay attention when I'm mafia?

quote=Kylemii post_id=753391 time=1615743889 user_id=289
quote="Long Con" post_id=753390 time=1615743614 user_id=271
:pirate:

Sign me upcolor=#FF0000size=200,/size/color matey!
/quote

a problematic start to be sure
/quote

I mean ARRRR!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:40 pm Sign me up, matey!
a problematic start to be sure

arrrr

Sign me up, matey!

Okay I will try to do some work for myself, just give me one post that made his roll super clear and I'll have a look.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:40 am LC, what’s your Epi case?

Like Epi said, post 6299.

Epi has a claim as well? Jesus, what is it?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:31 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:23 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:11 am Martin’s right though it’s wrong to hold votes on Chop until/unless someone claims BoS
Why is that again? I may have skimmed/glazed on the Brotherhood of Steel stuff, except that I think Dom thinks BoS is a new Mafia term.
It’s confirmed that there’s at least one of each alignment. Since Chop is the only claim from BoS, he’s basically setup confirmed provided someone else doesn’t step up. It’s the only reason to TR him but it’s a pretty good reason and I’m not chopping someone on policy on day 6 in a losing position

Ok, would you be interested in an Epi vote then?

And

... at me accusing Epignosis "without merit". Sure dude.

I'll gladly vote for Enclavenosis if anyone is game.

I do feel bad about accusing a hardworking dog. Wait, are we talking about Chop here? That's not a hardworking dog, that's a dog that won't stop barking for days on end at nothing anyone else can see.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:14 am

I think it would be reasonably within gimmick to put post numbers with links in small text below your image, as a courtesy.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:11 am Martin’s right though it’s wrong to hold votes on Chop until/unless someone claims BoS

Why is that again? I may have skimmed/glazed on the Brotherhood of Steel stuff, except that I think Dom thinks BoS is a new Mafia term.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:25 am @Dom the last ten posts is roughly my impression of the case against me

Yeah, for sure. I was just kidding about my vote for you, just wanted to see how it would travel. [VOTE: chopchop] aubergine I told him I would, and he didn't care. Pretty much out of my hands.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:31 am [VOTE: dom again but mean it this time] aubergine

Because he didn't acknowledge your voting scheme?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:11 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:27 pm nothing wrong with twilight

Ah, heh heh, you must be forgetting New Moon!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:02 pm [VOTE: what has epignosis been op to] aubergine

Being shady. I think he's Enclave.

Dom wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:53 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:52 pm We were told when Vault City was entirely eliminated. Will we be told when each other faction is eliminated?
host said not about civ aligned ones

who should i vote for

You wanna get on the Tony train?

We were told when Vault City was entirely eliminated. Will we be told when each other faction is eliminated?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:06 pm [VOTE: goku] aubergine

ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:06 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:04 pm Ngl my main hesitation in voting Tony is that I feel like I should have a solid read on him and he says I should townread him and I’d be kinda embarrassed to misyeet himnotreal

That’s not a good reason to actually townread him.
He’s doing that because he thinks he’s a good wolf!

If you believe that he’s a wolf and you have lots of information that points towards that you push it.
As long as you point your reasons why, there’s no em brass meant.

Oh, that's rich.

But Tony is pretty suspicious right? I'll [VOTE: Tony] aubergine

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:04 pm at some point we should talk about how Made didn't claim until an hour after spacedaisy showed up to the thread

What's the relevance of that?

Feels frantic right now but there's so much time left in the yeet.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:51 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:49 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:44 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine why is this wrong
it's probably not
please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal
day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly

Yeah, let's you and me hook up at F3.

He could just be some wild radical villager convinced you're bad, Tonathan.

Sorry to interrupt your flow there TSP. No linki

I could be convinced Tony is bad, but it wouldn't have anything to do with what you're saying, @ChopChop , because it's too vague for me. I can't just look at 500 posts and get the same feel for fakeness that you do. It doesn't work for me for you to state an opinion, then gesture to a pile of posts that meant something specific to YOU, and expect me to emulate your thought process. I don't even know you, dude.

Being unable to provide some specifics about your case is going to make me suspect that it's a big act. It's certainly theatrical enough.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:23 pm So ugh I was the designated ML that Made needed

Why?

ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:05 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:09 am
ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:59 am Hey if you wanna go ahead and vote Tony I’ll gladly sheep you.
i'll vote for him right now right this second if you quote the case on him regardless of whether i agree with it
All I can recall is a slightly abrasive and far too repetitive chant of "Tony is WOLF!" for days. I don't recall what made him think that. His casual willingness to declare me wolf alongside Tony doesn't help the case either.
@Long Con

You gonna tell me you don’t remember Tony being Fake and Tunnelling me on SOD1 randomly?

Yeah, I wasn't that checked-in back then. I don't remember that. How do you know he was being fake?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:50 am

Epignosis didn't think it was relevant to include any Kyle discourse between those two posts for consideration. Not even this little triad:

Spoiler: show

I mean, take what you want from it; it's not meaningless when discussing Kyle's vote for Made.

Also, Epignosis pushed the Mac vote when Made was red-checked and outed by Nanook.

Epignosis was voting for me with no explanation, and was content to see other votes follow him, including some talk of him having info on me. Now that I have defended myself convincingly, Epignosis is tossing out a vote on Kyle based on the idea that he was resigned to be voting Made. I don't see that in the posts Epi referenced, and as I said, he ignores likely relevant information in favour of some rep-fueled and gimmick-protected weak gotcha.

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:07 pm @MacDougall why is there always a baddie between Marmot and LC?

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:30 pm Okay, I agree LC/Marmot feels awkward, both feel pushier than I'm use to seeing. I'm reminded of a video mafia game with Marmot where he got uncharacteristically agro while scum, and I could see that bleding in here, but his push on LC feel genuine which makes me think i'm wrong on exactly one of them ( which is why i wanted to here if mac got to the same conclusion or a similar one because...)
Mac is playing like he's scum attempting to play to his meta. I'd want to see more there before voting there, but a good place to look day 4
Chop feel manic but in a towny way. I see a why they're pushing alison so hard, and why no one in thread seems to be taking the carrot on that one, but the alignment who hates who table make that messy.
Sloonei is playing a Q/A game that reminds me of his play in christmas so I'm leaning town there
Pretty null on KZA off the top
Dom is probably scum, but I don't see energy there, so also probably a no go today

but yeah, i'm cool with a LC axe
[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:38 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:34 pm I don't really get why you offer reasons for Mac to be scum, for me to be scum, and for Long Con to be town, and in the end vote for Long Con.

And like, your take on me/LC is based on a thing that Mac said anyway.
I like tinfoil

we're not getting a marmot chop today, so going for a LC CFD makes the most sense, even if it's not my first choice

If this is my teammate, then by all means, yeet away.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 11:50 am

Post 4369:

Made wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:05 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:03 pm someone real quick summarize the case on made and mace

the quality and type of infromation involved
please. Also who is mace?

Post 5048:

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:16 pm my focus is not here completely, I should be here b4 eod, maybe. Putting my vote where it bwlongs [VOTE: made] aubergine

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:32 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:48 am [VOTE: Urist] aubergine
Bad vote

So's yours.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:09 am
ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:59 am Hey if you wanna go ahead and vote Tony I’ll gladly sheep you.
i'll vote for him right now right this second if you quote the case on him regardless of whether i agree with it

All I can recall is a slightly abrasive and far too repetitive chant of "Tony is WOLF!" for days. I don't recall what made him think that. His casual willingness to declare me wolf alongside Tony doesn't help the case either.

The bottom three pictures are not showing up for me. I enjoyed the writing though!

What was the evidence that the Enclave was sure that Mac was Vault City and not some villager getting railroaded?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:46 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:40 am At the last minute.
I don't think they were tied after checking.

But whatever. I'm not going to fight on who voted when and when their vote tags were put on the thread.

Or maybe my headache is being too much of a problem right now.

I'm sorry about your headache, but I know for a fact that after I voted Joseph, he had 5 votes and the next highest was four. That is a fact. That is my direct experience. I didn't mean to be that guy with that crucial vote, but I was. Go ahead and chop me. It won't help you solve the game much, but it will prove I'm telling the truth about this and that's enough for me. Good night.

ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:40 am Joseph as in Tony?

Joseph is Mac.

At the last minute.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:38 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:33 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:32 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:28 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:28 am Martin led the charge because of the mac/epi stuff
So. What?
The Vault City are basically potential and likely allies for Enclave. Heck, if they have a communications Officer they could've had a day-phase's contact with Mac and told him about the Enclave team if they either checked randomly or role-copped + checked with officer.

Enclave doesn't have a whole lot of incentive to go after that unless its unknown who the VC are, where they might stumble upon that accidentally.

Either case, I did catch a wolf of sorts.
I put the deciding vote on him.
Wagons were 6-4, I didn't realize the TSP wagon grew one bigger.

I'll give you some credit for that I suppose, the wagons could have been tied, but IMO generally the ones who start a correct wagon have more credit than those who jump on last.

The wagons were tied when I voted Joseph up one.

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