The Syndicate

I was just trusting the POE

I don't see a downside.

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:36 pm the inclusion of two different cops, in a game like this, couple with whoever? possibly being able to mess with checks
and I just dont claim here if I am a wolf, because it forces me to town side

if it is just bunch of evil 3p roles, then Kitsu is the correct lynch

What's wrong with "being forced to townside"?

That's why I suggested he's an evil rolechecker. Maybe it's him and nutella.

Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:06 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:27 pm Could Wisp just be an evil role checker?
is this the hill we wanna die on 1 hour before EoD?

All the hills look to be a similar size. I could die on any of them.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:29 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:27 pm Could Wisp just be an evil role checker?
What makes you say that?

It would help explain why we are floundering on the Mafia-finding front.

Could Wisp just be an evil role checker?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:10 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:43 pm I'm not sure why sabie is hesitating with this tiebreak idea.
Just saying if there's 7 people there's no guarantee I'm not just going to get chopped because someone will put a 4th vote on me. Unless I just tell you to vote elsewhere I guess. Is this your way of also proving your role?

An elegant idea, if he were voting in the majority four.

Maybe they tried to kill Wisp last night and they failed because of his vest.

[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

Ok, I'll go along with that plan.

Okay, that's cool I forgot wisp checked you.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:34 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:33 pm What's nutella's claimed role again? I forget.
Jack Black, I "entertain" or "inspire" my target so that their ability is guaranteed to work past any fuckery.

I have to say that I don't believe that. Is there any proof?

What's nutella's claimed role again? I forget.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:46 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:51 am Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
Take note post-game that after throwing a massive fit about my suspicion of you in this game, you failed to listen to a thing I said at any juncture.

I never want to hear you complain again.
Completely untrue. I listened, I read, and I didn't believe you.
Do you have any other reads?

I thought that I was the best doctor ever. When things started getting narrow down and it seemed like there was no Mafia kill, I already had my tuxedo on for this year's Sockys.

Then I didn't even send in a protect last night, and there was still no kill. I hadn't totally believe in the idea that there was no Mafia in this game, but what am I supposed to do with that?

If there's no Mafia, then I don't know who we have to kill, it could be anybody. You are the one I have suspected the most, maybe you are the only one we have to kill. I don't know. I don't know what else to go on oh, but my guts, at this point.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:08 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:51 am Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine
Take note post-game that after throwing a massive fit about my suspicion of you in this game, you failed to listen to a thing I said at any juncture.

I never want to hear you complain again.

Completely untrue. I listened, I read, and I didn't believe you.

Disagree. [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:18 pm Alison, Wisp, Epi
Why these people, and in what order?

I thought Alison was a likely target Night 1 for her strong town behaviour. I protected Wisp on Night 2 after he outed to confirm me. I protected Epi Night 3 when he claimed Jack Shephard. I protected no one last night.

That's who I protected. Going back to the wilderness till tomorrow. Sending in protect now.

Alison, Wisp, Epi

I have to leave until Sunday. I will try to check in, but I'll be at a cottage with no internet. I can drive into town and get some, so I'll do that to get necessary game stuff done. Just don't expect me to be in the thread. Good luck folks!

That makes no sense too, the mafia can just claim Miller as well in that situation.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:37 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:34 am Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.
If there’s a mafia they we’re probably told there’s some sort of miller theme among the civilians.

I disagree that that could be called probable. I do understand that you're trying to keep suspicion on Tony, so my post would work counter to that.

Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:16 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:16 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:52 am I could still chop Tony out of some desperate clinging to a hope that this is a Mafia game. Otherwise though I feel like I have made 800 meaningless posts.
Shove that up your POE.

I rust Wisp's role is legit, because he got my role correct. They Hally-SD-Wisp cross-mojonation on Night 1 was particularly convincing for me.

A "miller team" is not out of the question. Also possible that or Doctor is awesome and has protected the right person multiple times, obscuring the existence of a Mafia team.
If there is no mafia, there is no appropriate method to solve this game. It's an exercise in randomization.

No. Context clues, leaps of intuition. Let's kill some millers?

I absolutely 100% guarantee to you that my role is a) town, and b) exactly as Wisp saw. Beyond that, I don't know how evil Jack can be. There IS a Civilian faction, that I know.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine You sound like you want out. Also, you're bad.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:52 am I could still chop Tony out of some desperate clinging to a hope that this is a Mafia game. Otherwise though I feel like I have made 800 meaningless posts.

Shove that up your POE.

I rust Wisp's role is legit, because he got my role correct. They Hally-SD-Wisp cross-mojonation on Night 1 was particularly convincing for me.

A "miller team" is not out of the question. Also possible that or Doctor is awesome and has protected the right person multiple times, obscuring the existence of a Mafia team.

Ya lost me

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:04 am oh wait I'm dumb I wasn't a miller last night

Isn't that a good night?

Isn't it nighttime?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:15 pm I mean LC was already fine but LC super probably fine.

It's ok. I understand.

I thought her posts generally were confident that she had seen Wisp.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:05 am General questions for everyone:

Do you believe there is another hostile independent player?

If there is another hostile independent player, who do you think it is?

How do you propose we go about hunting for such a player?
That's easy, it's long con. This isn't even a question.

To the mafia, if you are looking for a hostile independent, it's Long Con, kill him.

That's not true. Why are you saying such things?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:22 pm To be fair, Tony can be a mafioso and also be correct about Long Con. Spacedaisy did get a 3P check after all. Perhaps she was redirected to Pawn as we’d previously assumed, or perhaps her check was literal.

The difficulty here comes in the check dynamic. If Long Con was given a fake role [card] and his real role stipulates Wisp’s check goes to the fake — why does Daisy get the real alignment? I wouldn’t know how to puzzle that together.

Anyway at present it’s still not a certainty that this additional 3P exists.

Not to mention that Hally only saw Wisp checking me on Night 1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:05 am General questions for everyone:

Do you believe there is another hostile independent player?

If there is another hostile independent player, who do you think it is?

How do you propose we go about hunting for such a player?

Yeet suspicious players. Use town abilities to best advantage. Adapt plan as new info comes in.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:00 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:54 am While I understand that my thought process may defy rationality, this "explanation" is empty with regard to my suspicion. Your whole attitude is fake, and has been all game to varying degrees. "Good idea"? I don't see the value in this empty cheerleading if not solely intended to bolster your town image.
The point was to encourage Kitsu to check out the flavor, because it's something she had been doing plenty of already in the game. And I think she would be better at it than I would. So I told her to go for it. There's nothing else to it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:54 amAnd I know for damn sure that this is a page in the playbook: put out an opinion that matches your accuser's opinion to emulate synchronicity of thought, or "mind-meld". Page 22, paragraph 3. Subsection ii.

You didn't have to look far at all:

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:12 amI would prefer checking Epi and confirming him town, due to his claim. Jack Shephard is a doctor, so he might be important to us.

Two points:

1) I hardly even remember that "Long Con is my accuser"; that is not a point of focus in this game for me. I don't care. It does not help me solve the game at all.

2) This parallel is not intentional. I hardly even registered that your post existed, sorry to say. I have never tried to fake a mindmeld in my Mafia career lol. It's just not something that even occurs to me.

I'm town Long Con. Get off my nuts and help me figure out the game.

Only my mom calls me Long Con. My friends call me LC. You can call me... RoboCop!

What are you doing to my brain in this game??

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:33 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:09 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:04 am
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:02 am Actually, lemme run back to re-read three last night write up.
Good idea. Y'all flavormeisters can maybe make sense of it.
This player is scum. "Flavormeisters" indeed.
Flavor is neat and I encourage its existence. I just don't like or care about anything that Jack likes or cares about and have not been able to follow any of the flavor-driven solving in this game.

While I understand that my thought process may defy rationality, this "explanation" is empty with regard to my suspicion. Your whole attitude is fake, and has been all game to varying degrees. "Good idea"? I don't see the value in this empty cheerleading if not solely intended to bolster your town image.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:34 am If there's a vigilante I strongly encourage you to shoot someone in the POE pool. If Epi is getting checked then shoot elsewhere.

And I know for damn sure that this is a page in the playbook: put out an opinion that matches your accuser's opinion to emulate synchronicity of thought, or "mind-meld". Page 22, paragraph 3. Subsection ii.

You didn't have to look far at all:

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:12 amI would prefer checking Epi and confirming him town, due to his claim. Jack Shephard is a doctor, so he might be important to us.

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:10 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:05 am sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@Spacedaisy
do we just follow Alison's legacy and double check Epi here?
or are we splitting?
We also have a Vig out there, I’m sure of it. I’m guessing since they holstered last night, they were following the multiple posts that asked them to. Or they were blocked, and if they were, then then mafia know their identity now.

I’d say we either have the vig have a shot at Epi, or look into him.

I would prefer checking Epi and confirming him town, due to his claim. Jack Shephard is a doctor, so he might be important to us.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:04 am
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:02 am Actually, lemme run back to re-read three last night write up.
Good idea. Y'all flavormeisters can maybe make sense of it.

This player is scum. "Flavormeisters" indeed.

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:43 pm The game may yet be as simple as it seemed before. I hope I will have time this night phase to do my work.
It’s only simple if you’re mafia and steering everyone in one direction and laughing at us behind the scenes.

If that’s not the case, then I’m not seeing simplicity anywhere.

Extra death with a yeet is atypical.

But why

Bo knows Mafia

I feel like Epi will be the one to shepherd us all to victory!

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:58 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:45 pm Hey, you know me, I just like to go with the flow. You're in the POE, so I guess my vote is pretty legit. Sorry if I sprinkle in my own gut reads while I vote you.
I'm not disappointed in your for voting me (although I will try to get you to move your vote off me for obvious reasons). I will, however, be very disappointed if you and the rest of town don't follow my legacy.

Speaking of which: both me and Epi are in the POE. Why do you find me more suspicious than Epi?
You said you're a Miller, right? He can be checked and you can't. He's still a suspect.
It's a reasonable vote from your point of view. That's why I said I'm not disappointed in you for voting me.

When I have the Alison Seal of Approval™, I feel more confident.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:45 pm Hey, you know me, I just like to go with the flow. You're in the POE, so I guess my vote is pretty legit. Sorry if I sprinkle in my own gut reads while I vote you.
I'm not disappointed in your for voting me (although I will try to get you to move your vote off me for obvious reasons). I will, however, be very disappointed if you and the rest of town don't follow my legacy.

Speaking of which: both me and Epi are in the POE. Why do you find me more suspicious than Epi?

You said you're a Miller, right? He can be checked and you can't. He's still a suspect.

Hey, you know me, I just like to go with the flow. You're in the POE, so I guess my vote is pretty legit. Sorry if I sprinkle in my own gut reads while I vote you.

Thanks.

Now I don't have to push myself to Force Reed's that I don't know if I believe in. Do what you want.

Remind me again what the difference is between having a list of people you think our town and a list of people you think could be bad, and POE?

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