The Syndicate

Quin wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Also I did not understand how it worked,I thought you could only use it onyourself. So I wanted you to pick it up since you seemed more in danger than I.

Idols? Nah. Actually, when LC started bringing up your name and trying to control my BTSC choices, I considered asking Scotty if I could give you the idol. But without a message to go with it, I was worried it'd be wasted, so I just tried to change his mind.

I didn't see it so much as "controlling you"... more like "I'm glad we're on the same page and I can trust him."

Yeah, I'm more-so saying that from my perspective, because I wanted to go back to SVS and you kept saying 'no, go talk to sawyer and DF'. And as long as you didn't check my role, I thought I could trust you too. But I didn't see a situation where a member of your alliance could go unchecked so I'm a little glad that didn't become a problem.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Long Con wrote:Did anyone play the entire game without deceiving anyone?

Yep.

Quin wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Also I did not understand how it worked,I thought you could only use it onyourself. So I wanted you to pick it up since you seemed more in danger than I.

Idols? Nah. Actually, when LC started bringing up your name and trying to control my BTSC choices, I considered asking Scotty if I could give you the idol. But without a message to go with it, I was worried it'd be wasted, so I just tried to change his mind.

DharmaHelper wrote:No plan ever survives contact with the enemy, LC. Had you and I been on the same tribe at any point I would have Neganed up to protect you.

DharmaHelper wrote:People can believe me though.

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:The greatest thing about LMS games is that I can enter them knowing I have no chance at ever winning them.

speedchuck wrote:Sorry guys, I thought we had more time. I was at a camp during deadline. Was gonna vote for Opt anyway.

Opt_Outside wrote:Scotty- this was rad. When you first told me that you were planning this game forever ago I had no idea it would be this cool! Most of those challenges were so well done- that memory one and the idol in the sand and all the puzzles you created... good stuff, man.

Poor speedchuck though- the part of his role that was like "can learn who had btsc"

Yeah, I just stopped submitting that I think.

Scotty wrote:The most unbalanced advantage I think looking back was speedchuck's (puzzle) advantage in the 'X Marks the Spot', which told him the immunity idol was buried in the water...which, after people revealed their clues in thread, made it glaringly obvious exactly where the idol was.

I had actually narrowed it down in my head, and was certain it was there. I almost told everyone else not to bother, but I wanted them all to lose the energy so I said nothing.

Good game, all! Sorry about the confrontation, Long Con. It got me dead too.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Golden wrote:LC, you seem to think you had an 'original five' deal with me. I had never even heard about such a thing until after you were gone. Someone was bullshitting you that I had allied with you.

DH... he lied to me and to Quin. Same lie. Was INH even involved? DH, you are too corrupt and deceitful to ever trust.

I did no such thing :P

Golden had told me he'd like to bring Quin in during the preseason, and I took that to mean Golden and Quin and I were good. Then I talked to you and INH, which made 5.

I don't recall mentioning final five, but there's the five that I do recall mentioning I had spoken with and hashed something out

Quin wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Golden wrote:LC, you seem to think you had an 'original five' deal with me. I had never even heard about such a thing until after you were gone. Someone was bullshitting you that I had allied with you.

DH... he lied to me and to Quin. Same lie. Was INH even involved? DH, you are too corrupt and deceitful to ever trust.

DH and I never spoke at all - in fact, you were the one who told me about the alliance. When you told me that there was a five, I didn't know what to do. I didn't trust it at all though.

Golden wrote:LC, you seem to think you had an 'original five' deal with me. I had never even heard about such a thing until after you were gone. Someone was bullshitting you that I had allied with you.

Golden wrote:That's one of the funny things that happened in this game... people thought I had a lot of deals but then I was being told I was in deals that I never was...

Deals I made in the game:

Final three with Quin and SVS pre-game, and a side pact with DH
Final three with Opt and DH at Atamai, final five with LoRab and speedchuck
Final three with Opt and sorsha in the post-swap tribe
Then I gave LoRab a final three deal to slot in to DH's place come merge when he was gone

That was all the deals I made... it's a few, but I heard a lot more that I had apparently made.

Golden wrote:LC - I mean, here's a rule in Survivor.

Never ask to be voted for...
Never ask people to be straight with you...

They'll assume you are trying to con them into voting for you. Long Con you, even.

It just made me think you were playing me and you were going to invalidate the votes if you found out they were coming your way.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Quin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat

I would have voted you dude. Congrats on Final Three... rumour has it there's a banner involved in that.

DharmaHelper wrote:Oddly I think Eloh's elimination hit me the hardest. She was my last BTSC partner alongside SVS, and I enjoyed our conversations RE: Loyalty. I think if she'd made it to the end she would have been in the running.

Linki @ LC: Some birdies told me you were talking all kinds of shit about me.

The fact is that I had a column in my spreadsheet just titled "DH", and people got a positive or negative number for how they were inclined to you. I started it when you started the King of the Island shit. I never wavered for a second from the Goal. I guarantee you that. Anything I said about you was about reading the results for our future benefit.

In fairness the birdies that told me you were talking shit also told me they weren't going to bend me over a barrel.

Golden wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Golden wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Golden wrote:

Long Con wrote:Wow, congratulations, Opt!

Golden, you're on the list.

I was looking for a single person to turn. Sorsha said she didn't trust you. So down you went.

You gotta say though, I blindsided you good. I pulled a few great blindsides in this game - you, inh, SVS... it was good stuff.

Though it was not what I expected, I wouldn't call it a complete blindside. I don't know whether or not Sorsha relayed to you when I asked her just to be straight up with me if I was getting played. She decided not to grant me that dignity, so yes, I guess you could call it a "blindside". My blind side being my faith that I was dealing with people who had a scrap of sympathy or honour.

She did relay it to me, but I did not trust it not to be an idol play. I thought it was genuinely possible that you and sawyer were planning to play an idol to flip the numbers. I made up stuff for her to copy paste to keep you in the dark.

I may not have had honour, but I did have sympathy.

What are you talking about??? There were no Idols in play until that very Tribal Council, in which you had the only Idol. Wait, am I remembering wrong?

I mean a hidden one. We didn't know you or sawyer didn't have one (as it happened, Quin had it).

Golden wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Golden wrote:

Long Con wrote:Wow, congratulations, Opt!

Golden, you're on the list.

I was looking for a single person to turn. Sorsha said she didn't trust you. So down you went.

You gotta say though, I blindsided you good. I pulled a few great blindsides in this game - you, inh, SVS... it was good stuff.

Though it was not what I expected, I wouldn't call it a complete blindside. I don't know whether or not Sorsha relayed to you when I asked her just to be straight up with me if I was getting played. She decided not to grant me that dignity, so yes, I guess you could call it a "blindside". My blind side being my faith that I was dealing with people who had a scrap of sympathy or honour.

She did relay it to me, but I did not trust it not to be an idol play. I thought it was genuinely possible that you and sawyer were planning to play an idol to flip the numbers. I made up stuff for her to copy paste to keep you in the dark.

I may not have had honour, but I did have sympathy.

DharmaHelper wrote:How the fuck you gonna do me so dirty when I kicked so much ass at battleship guys?

Quin wrote:Putting on my self-entitlement hat for a second - I'm actually surprised I only got one jury vote. Who dat

DharmaHelper wrote:Oddly I think Eloh's elimination hit me the hardest. She was my last BTSC partner alongside SVS, and I enjoyed our conversations RE: Loyalty. I think if she'd made it to the end she would have been in the running.

Linki @ LC: Some birdies told me you were talking all kinds of shit about me.

Golden wrote:

Long Con wrote:Wow, congratulations, Opt!

Golden, you're on the list.

I was looking for a single person to turn. Sorsha said she didn't trust you. So down you went.

You gotta say though, I blindsided you good. I pulled a few great blindsides in this game - you, inh, SVS... it was good stuff.

DharmaHelper wrote:I'm very glad Opt won. If it wasn't going to be me, it had to be one of my Saviors. Though with Quin in the final 3 it was a nervous vote. I think Sorsha played too low key of a game, even if it was a good enough game to get to finals.