The Syndicate

I assumed it would be an MP landslide, and I didn't vote. I vote MP.

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:39 pmThough I should make a point that 'sucking' and 'looking bad' are different.

I usually employ a mixture of the two.

Very impressive MP.

Except for the start of the game. That was unimpressive.

Sorry I'm a one-track mind right now, but:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:02 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:32 am I don't know why I am even bothering to do this. I'm sure it's a serious personality flaw that I have that I'm compelled to do this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:04 pm I'll try to keep this brief.

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In Mass Effect, an evil independent LC kept calling me nervous. We've had this argument since, but I maintain that I was not nervous, but rather was gleeful that my little scheme to out a member of the mafia was working.

Yes, he'll remind you that I wasn't a civilian (True: I was at the time a neutral who could eventually side with either good or bad) and that he wasn't mafia (True, but he was last man standing, which is a role civilians need dead to win, and is therefore "bad").

My point is that LC framed my posts in such a way that supported his narrative (to get me lynched) rather than one to help the civilians (to get mafia lynched).

No.

Here's what happened, not what Epi's specially selected words choose to tell you. Epi was a complicated Indy who could go either way, and he had a fakeclaim from the host to use. He tells the thread his fakeclaim on Day 2, which I find weird. It made me suspect he was bad, and using a fakeclaim. He wants to spin it like I was some "evil independent" but what do you think my strategy was? Frame someone? I didn't have a team to work with, or for, what I needed was some level of credibility. I was trying to find baddies in as genuine a way as if I were a Civilian.

If you see similarities between that game and this one, then that makes sense enough to me, because my goal was to find baddies in both. In Mass Effect, I was right to go after Epignosis because he, as predicted, joined the baddies. Listen to me again for the first time, here in this game, maybe I'm right again.

If people would have listened to you, they would have wasted a lynch. You weren't right to go after me. Nobody was, because nobody needed me dead to win.

I don't know how else to spell that out for you.

Very clever, Epi. You completely sidestepped the relevant point of what I said to focus on the Mass Effect argument instead. The relevant point was that I was trying to find baddies in that game, as I am in this one, and so any similarity you want to point out only hurts your case.

But you knew that having the appearance of winning an argument or point was more important to some of these other players than what you were winning. I don't think you really believe I am bad, you just want to win a lynch on me. If you really cared about whether or not I'm bad, then you wouldn't be sidestepping points that don't fit into your narrative.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:02 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:32 am I don't know why I am even bothering to do this. I'm sure it's a serious personality flaw that I have that I'm compelled to do this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:04 pm I'll try to keep this brief.

Spoiler: show

In Mass Effect, an evil independent LC kept calling me nervous. We've had this argument since, but I maintain that I was not nervous, but rather was gleeful that my little scheme to out a member of the mafia was working.

Yes, he'll remind you that I wasn't a civilian (True: I was at the time a neutral who could eventually side with either good or bad) and that he wasn't mafia (True, but he was last man standing, which is a role civilians need dead to win, and is therefore "bad").

My point is that LC framed my posts in such a way that supported his narrative (to get me lynched) rather than one to help the civilians (to get mafia lynched).

No.

Here's what happened, not what Epi's specially selected words choose to tell you. Epi was a complicated Indy who could go either way, and he had a fakeclaim from the host to use. He tells the thread his fakeclaim on Day 2, which I find weird. It made me suspect he was bad, and using a fakeclaim. He wants to spin it like I was some "evil independent" but what do you think my strategy was? Frame someone? I didn't have a team to work with, or for, what I needed was some level of credibility. I was trying to find baddies in as genuine a way as if I were a Civilian.

If you see similarities between that game and this one, then that makes sense enough to me, because my goal was to find baddies in both. In Mass Effect, I was right to go after Epignosis because he, as predicted, joined the baddies. Listen to me again for the first time, here in this game, maybe I'm right again.

If people would have listened to you, they would have wasted a lynch. You weren't right to go after me. Nobody was, because nobody needed me dead to win.

I don't know how else to spell that out for you.

No one wants to read Mass Effect arguments:

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:32 am

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In Blue Velvet, LC was bad, I was good, and we had a back and forth on Mass Effect. Here is LC's big, misleading post about me.

That was an awesome meta case, thanks for linking it. It has no similarities to this game though. It seems you just brought it up because it's an instance where I made a case against you... that doesn't really make the cut for doing anything to prove your point here.

I don't agree.

Predictably inadequate.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:32 am

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In Night Vale, Long Con and I were both bad- teammates even. What does he resort to?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:46 pm I look nervous to you, LC?

The line I referenced looks like textbook nervousness... it's not a general thing with all your posts or anything, but come on - you read that line and tell me I'm wrong.

I recall seeing this and rolling my eyes. "Not this 'nervous' bullshit again. Were I not on LC's team, I would have crucified him for it.

FALSE. This is a bogus entry, because I wasn't in any way making a case on Jack. I was laughing at how his post read to me. Try this link to see THE ENTIRETY of the exchange. As in, I wasn't pursuing it as any form of case at all. Epi's attempt to make you believe otherwise is deception.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:23 pm

Boomslang wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:24 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:09 pm Most inclined to vote Sprityo for self preservation lolololol or Epi for picking on someone he may view as weak.

Why that many "ol" additions the first time? Possible tell that you were thinking too hard about that post, and baddies must generate content whole-cloth. Could be an indication of teamwork, again playing off meta.

"Mind Meld" I guess - I thought it looked like nervous laughter.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:27 pm Long Con could yet get my vote too, although I tend to start reading him well if I give him some time, which I'm always mindful of.

I need more content, I think. I haven't fully gotten into this yet. Just caught up.

You...you mean you said something that could be construed as a serious suspicion and later indicated it wasn't serious?

A concocted connection, barely even tenuous. What was going on there was me buddying two Civs. What went on in this game was me observing your behaviour and finding it suspicious.

sanmateo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:59 am no wait actually they didnt. i'm voting now

Must have been a nice two minutes before you realized.

I don't know why I am even bothering to do this. I'm sure it's a serious personality flaw that I have that I'm compelled to do this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:04 pm I'll try to keep this brief.

Spoiler: show

In Mass Effect, an evil independent LC kept calling me nervous. We've had this argument since, but I maintain that I was not nervous, but rather was gleeful that my little scheme to out a member of the mafia was working.

Yes, he'll remind you that I wasn't a civilian (True: I was at the time a neutral who could eventually side with either good or bad) and that he wasn't mafia (True, but he was last man standing, which is a role civilians need dead to win, and is therefore "bad").

My point is that LC framed my posts in such a way that supported his narrative (to get me lynched) rather than one to help the civilians (to get mafia lynched).

No.

Here's what happened, not what Epi's specially selected words choose to tell you. Epi was a complicated Indy who could go either way, and he had a fakeclaim from the host to use. He tells the thread his fakeclaim on Day 2, which I find weird. It made me suspect he was bad, and using a fakeclaim. He wants to spin it like I was some "evil independent" but what do you think my strategy was? Frame someone? I didn't have a team to work with, or for, what I needed was some level of credibility. I was trying to find baddies in as genuine a way as if I were a Civilian.

If you see similarities between that game and this one, then that makes sense enough to me, because my goal was to find baddies in both. In Mass Effect, I was right to go after Epignosis because he, as predicted, joined the baddies. Listen to me again for the first time, here in this game, maybe I'm right again.

Spoiler: show

In Blue Velvet, LC was bad, I was good, and we had a back and forth on Mass Effect. Here is LC's big, misleading post about me.

That was an awesome meta case, thanks for linking it. It has no similarities to this game though. It seems you just brought it up because it's an instance where I made a case against you... that doesn't really make the cut for doing anything to prove your point here.

Spoiler: show

In Night Vale, Long Con and I were both bad- teammates even. What does he resort to?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:46 pm I look nervous to you, LC?

The line I referenced looks like textbook nervousness... it's not a general thing with all your posts or anything, but come on - you read that line and tell me I'm wrong.

I recall seeing this and rolling my eyes. "Not this 'nervous' bullshit again. Were I not on LC's team, I would have crucified him for it.

FALSE. This is a bogus entry, because I wasn't in any way making a case on Jack. I was laughing at how his post read to me. Try this link to see THE ENTIRETY of the exchange. As in, I wasn't pursuing it as any form of case at all. Epi's attempt to make you believe otherwise is deception.

Long Con's evil M.O. when he is bad is to cavalierly control the narrative to the point of outright making things up and sticking to them even when proof is presented to the contrary. He would make an admirable politician.

Where has that even happened in this game? What proof? What are you talking about?

I'm really disappointed in the players who praised this case as a good one. It doesn't make sense, and proving that didn't take a lot of reading through the links.

That's why I don't buy for a second his insistence that what he has been trying to sell as a joke was a joke.

Despite evidence to the contrary.

BWT, why did you keep saying it was the truth after the poll was over?

Also, I loved the Chef Boyardee magnifico finger kiss. I'm still laughing.

Hey all, another weekend, another food truck event for us. I'm just posting from the event, and when I come home later, I'll post some more. I don't think Epi's points from other games are similar enough to consider comparing this game too. Obviously talking about more people is a healthy thing, and we have plenty of time so I'll talk to you all later.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:36 am Since votes are changeable, I'm going to go ahead and put mine on Long Con for now. But since it's still early on Day 1, it's a very weak baddie read right now, but looking back at the initial start I feel like LC looks more bad than Epig.

So you agree with Epi that voting Queensland was suspicious of me to do?

I missed responding to this:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:01 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:44 pm I felt like Epignosis' reactions were way more suspicious than my reaction to them. I don't understand why you ignore my points about his reactions and just vote for me instead.

So you admit there is some degree of suspicious behavior around your posts?

I do not. However, from a neutral perspective, each and every post in the game can be given some sort of suspicion-level rating. Looking at Epi and myself from a neutral perspective, it doesn't make sense to me to decide that my behaviour was more suspicious than his. Like, there's no contest here.

Perfect plan, just reverse the lynch order and it has the best chance of being good for the Civs.

The Night 0 post indicated that Queensland was the wrong choice.

I already looked, and I couldn't find what you say is there. Are you sure you're remembering correctly? I found one game where I was bad and you were good - Barry Lyndon, I think - and I didn't even engage you in any real way at all as far as I could tell.

How is it manipulative? Is there something untrue in it? I'm looking at it right now and it's a direct accounting of what happened.

And yet you have no problem with this entirely made-up post:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:01 amThe past three or four times you have been bad, you've done this very thing: Manufacturing a narrative for my actions or reactions that isn't true.

I made the mistake of waving that off once or twice, citing recency bias to myself. Surely LC wouldn't keep doing the same things over and over when he is bad.

Now it's a pattern. This is just what you do when you are bad.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:35 am Let me try again.

LC, you said, "Sorry, not falling for that."

I asked "Falling for what?"

You didn't answer.

Answering would have been akin to "falling for it". Part of what bars me from "falling for it" is posts like this one from you, so it looks like I ended up falling for it after all, because here we are. You dove on this like a hungry dog and chewed it apart so I don't even recognize it anymore, and you are coming to conclusions that are the opposite of what I think the evidence shows. What bars me from the clearer answer is this. Too exhausting, and too frustrating when people actually believe your crap.

Nothing you feel like saying about the Fake News, for instance?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:08 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:47 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:17 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:11 am Epi vs LC, aka "El Clásico"

I know, right? I mean, I was just joking around... but Epi's reaction! I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say he totally freaked out. He demanded four times that I substantiate my claims, then he throws out a weak-ass OMGUS, and then demands opinions from everyone on it.

Not to mention he completely ignored Wilgy, who also made a very similar joke. I guess he understood that Wilgy's post was a joke, but not mine. This is unexpectedly juicy Night 0 stuff!

I fail to see how any of the behavior described here is suspicious.

I guess we'll see.

You were supposed to convince me.

I don't have a lot to say about it that I haven't already said. It's not like there's a huge volume of work to discuss. I think Epi's four-time insistence is excessive, and it stands as one of the most suspicious things I have seen thus far in the game.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:56 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:46 am

Epignosis wrote:I remain amazed that my naming MP and you as my initial suspects on Day 0 followed by a Quin joke constitutes "trying too hard."

I mean, for this to be a genuine opinion of yours, the level of effort I must put forth when I am a civilian has to be somewhere just north of the players who never even open their role PMs.

Yes, that makes sense, and supports the fact that I was just joking around.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:10 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 pm Epi's trying too hard. Usually he's bad when he does that.

So I'm normally a lazy civilian?

Sorry, not falling for that.

Falling for what?

You said I'm trying too hard, and that I'm usually bad when I do that.

I think that's silly.

When I am a civilian, what do I look like?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:43 pm You're allowed to think it's silly. I won't try to stop you.

You weren't joking.

That's crazy talk. My last quote you isolated is an indicator that it's not serious. How can that not be clear?

Oh, and also:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:01 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:44 pm I felt like Epignosis' reactions were way more suspicious than my reaction to them. I don't understand why you ignore my points about his reactions and just vote for me instead.

The past three or four times you have been bad, you've done this very thing: Manufacturing a narrative for my actions or reactions that isn't true.

I made the mistake of waving that off once or twice, citing recency bias to myself. Surely LC wouldn't keep doing the same things over and over when he is bad.

Now it's a pattern. This is just what you do when you are bad.

Fake news. These are not real facts.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:17 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:11 am Epi vs LC, aka "El Clásico"

I know, right? I mean, I was just joking around... but Epi's reaction! I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say he totally freaked out. He demanded four times that I substantiate my claims, then he throws out a weak-ass OMGUS, and then demands opinions from everyone on it.

Not to mention he completely ignored Wilgy, who also made a very similar joke. I guess he understood that Wilgy's post was a joke, but not mine. This is unexpectedly juicy Night 0 stuff!

I fail to see how any of the behavior described here is suspicious.

I guess we'll see.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:01 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:44 pm I felt like Epignosis' reactions were way more suspicious than my reaction to them. I don't understand why you ignore my points about his reactions and just vote for me instead.

The past three or four times you have been bad, you've done this very thing: Manufacturing a narrative for my actions or reactions that isn't true.

I made the mistake of waving that off once or twice, citing recency bias to myself. Surely LC wouldn't keep doing the same things over and over when he is bad.

Now it's a pattern. This is just what you do when you are bad.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:11 am Epi vs LC, aka "El Clásico"

I know, right? I mean, I was just joking around... but Epi's reaction! I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say he totally freaked out. He demanded four times that I substantiate my claims, then he throws out a weak-ass OMGUS, and then demands opinions from everyone on it.

Not to mention he completely ignored Wilgy, who also made a very similar joke. I guess he understood that Wilgy's post was a joke, but not mine. This is unexpectedly juicy Night 0 stuff!

You first:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:48 pm I'm not entirely sure I understand the Quin-searching thing, but I'll vote Queensland if that's the thing.

Then me:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 10:51 pm I suspect MP for his gregarious posting.

I suspect LC for his comment above. Does anyone understand the Quin-searching thing? If he doesn't understand it, why is he voting for the trendy choice?

I suspect Quin will get destroyed next time too.

Then you:

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 pm Epi's trying too hard. Usually he's bad when he does that.

So explain what exactly is a "weak-ass OMGUS" here.

That's a good point, I forgot about the initial exchange when I said that.

I remain amazed that my naming MP and you as my initial suspects on Day 0 followed by a Quin joke constitutes "trying too hard."

I mean, for this to be a genuine opinion of yours, the level of effort I must put forth when I am a civilian has to be somewhere just north of the players who never even open their role PMs.

Yes, that makes sense, and supports the fact that I was just joking around.

I felt like Epignosis' reactions were way more suspicious than my reaction to them. I don't understand why you ignore my points about his reactions and just vote for me instead.

Well, break a different one.

That would be a mistake.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:49 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:11 am Epi vs LC, aka "El Clásico"

I know, right? I mean, I was just joking around... but Epi's reaction! I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say he totally freaked out. He demanded four times that I substantiate my claims, then he throws out a weak-ass OMGUS, and then demands opinions from everyone on it.

Not to mention he completely ignored Wilgy, who also made a very similar joke. I guess he understood that Wilgy's post was a joke, but not mine. This is unexpectedly juicy Night 0 stuff!

If any post produces suspicion against Long Con, it's this one. I agree with Speedchuck that there is an impression of backtracking here in his "I was joking" stance. It may be the case that he was just playfully poking at Epi initially, but the way this post is constructed gives me the impression that he is seizing on the existing backlash against Epi's response to turn it willfully into a bandwagon.

"Seizing on the existing backlash"?

As far as I know, I was the only existing backlash.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:55 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:11 am Epi vs LC, aka "El Clásico"

I know, right? I mean, I was just joking around... but Epi's reaction! I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say he totally freaked out. He demanded four times that I substantiate my claims, then he throws out a weak-ass OMGUS, and then demands opinions from everyone on it.

Not to mention he completely ignored Wilgy, who also made a very similar joke. I guess he understood that Wilgy's post was a joke, but not mine. This is unexpectedly juicy Night 0 stuff!

I don't like the tone of this post. Sounds like you are trying to make him look bad without engaging him yourself.

I'm supposed to want to engage Epi? What good will that do?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:13 am

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:08 pm I'm voting for Queensland because I have info that it will help the civ cause.

Let's see where that one leads us.

Let's go back to this post. Some people accepted it, all of us seem to have followed it in our votes, but I'm not as familiar with the origins of information like this being distributed. I don't think bwt lied maliciously and I see no real grounds for suspicion here, but how much stock, if any, should we put in a claim like his? Especially in a Heist.

I think it's a reasonable claim. In many games back on Lostpedia/The Piano/Revolutionmafia before The Syndicate was founded, as well as in the early days of this site, it was very commonplace to start out the game with Day 0 with a poll like this. The host(s) often would PM a few randomly selected townies informing them of the option that was town-friendly, and same with the mafia team and independent faction. However, the results of the Day 0 poll usually weren't evident to everyone until the end of the game so that it didn't out people. There were variations, naturally, especially increasingly so over time as hosts became more creative, but a scenario in which each option corresponded to a faction and the option to receive the most votes "wins" for that faction was common when I started playing back in 2010. Another somewhat common variation developed where instead the Day 0 options individualized results (see: my Super Meat Boy game here on TS), where if one player voted for one option maybe it did nothing but another player voted for a different option which gave them a +1 vote for Day 1 or any number of things.

He could be lying, but I tentatively don't see any reason for why anyone would lie about this, especially since games with Day 0 polls accompanied by information have completely fallen out of style for a few years now.

I still like to include some sort of informationally meaningful Day 0 poll. My favourite was the Erlatz Eleven - 11 voters on one choice, and it was known that one of them got recruited to a bad team. Fun!

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:42 am What were you unwilling to fall for?

Some sort of labour-intensive Epi-history-search to prove exactly how he acts as a Civ or a baddie.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:50 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:39 am 1. Thanks for letting me know whether or not I was joking.

2. I don't think you understand what backpedalling is.

3. Whether or not I was looking for a reaction, I got one. I could discuss it, or not discuss it. You would prefer I not discuss it?

1. I calls them as I see them. I could have said "I don't believe it was a joke," I guess. I don't give a crap.

2. Regarding backpedalling, I saw this interaction as you nudging Epi, then doubling down, then backing off and saying it all was a joke while pursuing Epi on a completely different trail. I don't understand how this is not backpedalling, and I'm pretty sure everyone who read my post knew what I meant.
Not the first time I've been checked on my use of terms on the site. It won't be the last. But it isn't helpful, and it doesn't change the observation I was trying to make. All it does is belittle me because I'm not as anal about term usage as other people.

3. No, please, go ahead. If I can discuss your posts/reactions, you can discuss Epi's. You're acting like I was trying to shut you up, which... doesn't come out of what I said. Why would you act like I was trying to silence you?

1. Well, I was there, I was me, it's Night 0, my first post, and I am quite sure I was joking around.

2. Don't know about "doubling down", but from my perspective there was no backpedalling of any sort. I made a joke, Epi freaked out, I observed that. I don't see how there's room for a backpedalling accusation in there. It's not about being anal, it's about there being no backpedalling in the situation.

3. You gave negative feedback when I was calling out Epi. Like I was doing something wrong ("backpedalling").

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:40 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 am

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:11 am Epi vs LC, aka "El Clásico"

I know, right? I mean, I was just joking around... but Epi's reaction! I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say he totally freaked out. He demanded four times that I substantiate my claims, then he throws out a weak-ass OMGUS, and then demands opinions from everyone on it.

Not to mention he completely ignored Wilgy, who also made a very similar joke. I guess he understood that Wilgy's post was a joke, but not mine. This is unexpectedly juicy Night 0 stuff!

You mean to say I'm...nervous?

You said it, not me.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:33 am This is unexpectedly juicy Night 0 stuff!

Isn't it though!?
I'm not even under pressure and I'm still finding it impossible to see your posts in a joking light.

It wasn't a joke. If you were egging on Epi to get a reaction, which I could have bought, you wouldn't be backpedaling so ridiculously hard right now.

1. Thanks for letting me know whether or not I was joking.

2. I don't think you understand what backpedalling is.

3. Whether or not I was looking for a reaction, I got one. I could discuss it, or not discuss it. You would prefer I not discuss it?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:19 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:10 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 pm Epi's trying too hard. Usually he's bad when he does that.

So I'm normally a lazy civilian?

Sorry, not falling for that.

What were you afraid to fall for here, LC?

Afraid?

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:11 am Epi vs LC, aka "El Clásico"

I know, right? I mean, I was just joking around... but Epi's reaction! I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say he totally freaked out. He demanded four times that I substantiate my claims, then he throws out a weak-ass OMGUS, and then demands opinions from everyone on it.

Not to mention he completely ignored Wilgy, who also made a very similar joke. I guess he understood that Wilgy's post was a joke, but not mine. This is unexpectedly juicy Night 0 stuff!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:07 am As of now, you are getting my Day 1 vote, Long Con. Saying I am "usually" trying too hard when I'm bad show you don't know what I am like when I'm bad at all. You are making things up. Like you usually do when YOU are bad.

Do you always get what you want?

You're allowed to think it's silly. I won't try to stop you.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:10 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:09 pm Epi's trying too hard. Usually he's bad when he does that.

So I'm normally a lazy civilian?

Sorry, not falling for that.

Epi's trying too hard. Usually he's bad when he does that.

I'm not entirely sure I understand the Quin-searching thing, but I'll vote Queensland if that's the thing.