The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:31 pm Whoa, good job Long Con!

I saved the game!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:06 am Apparently half the team was invincible. :P

My invincibility stemmed from my terrible Mafia gameplay. I was too awful to kill!

dunya, I assume you became invincible at some point?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:52 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:49 am I was Matterhorn. I guess you can understand why sprityo got frustrated some of ya'll were voting for him now. :P

No, I don't understand what you mean.

you broke his 4 day no lynch vote streak. We had to go 4 day phases with no votes on us to get NK immunity.

Oh yes, of course... I forgot for a sec there that you replaced him.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am Oh. My hint was that you guessed my win con LC.

GG town. Glad to have helped I guess. I've been even more frustrated than mafia this game. My win condition was to be taller than all living mountains put together, whether I was alive or dead. This was impossible for a few reasons.

1. I misunderstood and thought I had to live until late game.
2. I misunderstood and thought I had to win with town.
3. People wouldn't effing DIE! Seven missed deaths! No way I could recover from that. And mafia never even attempted to kill the tallest two mountains, as far as I know.

I think I played a good town game until endgame. At that point I tried to get lunched so scum could have an extra nightkill. No point to that either.

I tried too hard to help town, not knowing I could win with scum. Sorry scum. Though it was the neutered kills in this game that stopped you. And me.

I thought so! Night 2, I activated my "Janssen Observatory - Blanc may use this rickety observatory to take a look at Olympus Mons, the Martian mountain."

This is what I got.

Rumors wrote:They say that Olympus Mons is the tallest known mountain in the Solar System. Well, if we're talking planets that's true. But look at this gathering of mountains. Olympus Mons may be the tallest here, but Mars honestly can't compete with Earth in this game. Not right now. 21 km is a mighty impressive distance, but is it tall enough?

It took a while for me to figure out what it meant, but I got it eventually, which allowed speedchuck, in all his Indy glory, to clear me.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:49 am I was Matterhorn. I guess you can understand why sprityo got frustrated some of ya'll were voting for him now. :P

No, I don't understand what you mean.

Main thing I would like to see when Marmot morning comes around is a night-by-night recollection of how all those kills failed!

Oh, I was right about one thing - nijuu paid enough attention to deliberately no-kill to incriminate sig. Blooper, you were so marvellous!

Great game, all. Never seen such tireless effort as dunya's. Nice to know I can just bumble along and be wrong about literally everything, and still survive the whole game and become an Unofficial Confirmed Civ. I wish I could bottle the essence of that and spray it on every time I'm Mafia.

I was Mont Blanc. Not that anyone cared enough to acknowledge my claims of its existence, but my hint was:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:48 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:12 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:56 pm Epignosis, you're being needlessly difficult about this and while I'm enjoying talking with you about it I don't see it as being actually relevant to moving the game forward in any way. Its not my job to teach you basic symbolic logic.

Yet you keep trying.

I suspect you. And I'm not interested in "symbolic logic." I am interested in how you showed no interest in lynching 3J until it became a "thing" again.

You or LC will get my vote as it stands tomorrow.

Do what you must. There's no way I'm voting for you tomorrow.

And then I took Epi off the poll. Too subtle, I think, but hey, it's a no-infodump game, so I had to keep it legit.

Actually, you make some really good points.

And by points, I of course mean marmots.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:33 pm Is there a reason to believe LC is confirmed civ, outside of Speedchuck's claims?
yes

Is that reason strong?
yes

Can it be faked?
no

This... this I do not get at all. Something outside the thread?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:24 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:20 pm speed friendo, are your answers also "yes yes no" RE: LC

Sort of. Yes to the first two. Almost yes to the third one. It could be faked, but it would take guesswork and a crapton of luck. Like, an unbelievable amount. So much.

So I was right? Like, really right? My concern is that you winning means everyone else loses. I don't know that you'll get there anyway.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:26 pm 3 questions. Please answer with only "yes" or "no" for each.

Is there a reason to believe LC is confirmed civ, outside of Speedchuck's claims?

Is that reason strong? Can it be faked?

MY answers would be Yes Yes No... but that's due to my subtle hint. I don't think anyone got it.

So I would then say Yes to the first one because I think someone did some convincing vote analysis on Elohcin's Day 1 vote... which would have been some risky bussing indeed. Pretty strong, could be faked.

Those are both awesomely believable scenarios Kyle! I wish they were the case, I'd be proud.

Oh yeah, and after last K2, I'm finally caught up with the rest of you on K2's identity.

It just took reading that day, as I recall. I think we all spelled it out real good.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:50 am I believe Night 8 was a deliberate non-kill. To make us lynch Sig.

The rest are some combination of inactivity and roles.

THAT one I'll forgive.

I do NOT believe that there is an active player deliberately not killing as some crazy strategy to win the game by lynch. My main reason for not believing this is that we JUST came out of Chicka-Chicka-1-2-3 Mafia, which dragged on FOREVER. Ain't no one interested in implementing a slow-play strategy that will extend this game any more. Seriously, that had better not be happening. Not only is it a drag, but it a) makes the dead players have to wait longer with no game to play, and b) hurts the energy of The Syndicate as a whole. I already feel like this site has slowed down so much - that extended downtime hit us hard, and we're nowhere close to fully recovered despite some awesome immigration from HCRealms.

I also find it difficult to believe that role powers keep getting in the way. If we're really that "lucky", then I imagine that nijuu is the best choice today, because a replacement player might try to target some invincible role that someone tried earlier, a targeting choice that a whole-game-player would have known to avoid.

But still, inactivity. Gotta be. I should be dead. People have been puking my Civvieness all over the thread so much that I've written and re-written my Last Will and Testament fifteen times. And if they knew my role, which some do, then they'd know I'm as vulnerable as a newborn lamb.

All signs point to nijuu. We'll deal with the active crapster tomorrow if it doesn't pan out. Voting nijuu.

nijuu... or anyone.

I believe Matterhorn must have died.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:35 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:22 amAnd I will never vote to lynch dunya, that's ridiculous.

who's talking about lynching dunya

Well, like, the stuff that resulted in dunya goin':

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 pmsorry, I just found it hilarious Kyle and DDL were still hypothesizing me as scum. Like, come on.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:30 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:22 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:03 pm I appreciate the gesture, LC. The vote, that is.

I like fun!

And I have no idea how I could possibly be a confirmed Civ. I thought I knew, but not with what you said about the timing.

Huh. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was just coincidence. If so, I'll go back after the game and frame the post that made me think that.

It was something I posted? I bet I know what it was. Do you presume to know my role then? Yes or no will satisfy me.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:03 pm I appreciate the gesture, LC. The vote, that is.

I like fun!

And I have no idea how I could possibly be a confirmed Civ. I thought I knew, but not with what you said about the timing.

And I will never vote to lynch dunya, that's ridiculous.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:53 pm LC is 100% town by the way.

You have known this for a while?

What I remember about Pirates is nailing most of the scum team in the first two days and getting killed for it. So, good times!

Ah, but it's good ol speedy! How can you say no to that face?

Damn it speed, fine but you owe me one.

You're a freakin workhorse dunya

I don't know dude...

Lynch nijuu?

Although I have been believing Olympus was Kyle, of course.

Well, you can deny. I obviously just denied I was Olympus Mons, though I did check with the host to ensure that was allowed. I promised not to go crazy and deny every role except my own, or something.

Is the game over? Do you really know that?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:41 amGG then.

What, are you Olympus Mons or something? Maybe your win condition is to have your height be taller than all the mountains on Earth combined?

I know you can't verify any truth, but just thought I'd ask.

K2 lives! *holds up lighter*

Of course, we must vote sig. It is destiny.

Speedchuck...

dunya's case really is impressive, speed.

Genius!

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:09 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:57 pm I would lie about that... the 'W' Wilgy thing, I mean. I would consider myself quite clever to try such a a thing if I thought of it.

Yes, but I don't think normal people come up with lies like that on the spot so early in the game. It's way too evil.

Agreed.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:02 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:57 pm I would lie about that... the 'W' Wilgy thing, I mean. I would consider myself quite clever to try such a a thing if I thought of it.

I remember a game where you did something like that. What was it?

My memory of past games is hazy, it could be any game where I'm bad.

Woctor Dilgy, he's Wilgy's evil twin.

I would lie about that... the 'W' Wilgy thing, I mean. I would consider myself quite clever to try such a a thing if I thought of it.

Hey, let's just hope that Eloh turns out bad, and we catch the next baddie efficiently.

I actually didn't like it much the first time you said it. Just a gut feeling like it's an impression a baddie might want to put out there. The impression that "I'm a Civ who's doing a lot of legwork, and I'm really disappointed that it turned out to not be helpful." You know what I mean?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:35 pm Well I wasted my day.

This is similar.

Can't argue with the council!

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:52 pm oh my god eloh that geode cake is gorgeous!!!

Yeah I never saw anything like that before.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:41 pm ...

I may have wasted 45 minutes of effort making a case on Eloh.

That's the second time you have declared you wasted your time.

Boomslang wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:48 pm Super late to the party due to a power outage, but thanks to LC for giving credit where credit is due for player salad :P Making a lasting mark on the community!

I gave it my highest honour: claiming I made it up.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:14 pm wouldn't it be great if an active final wolf skipped their kill so we'd think they were inactive

I totally thought the same thing. If I were bad, I might try it.

I see. I was just going off your post:

I voted for him before going to bed.

But other people were on him. I think Sloonei, Jack, Speed and Nutella. Some of them left.

Makes it sound like the other people were on when you voted. Sorry if that's a mistake.

Please take a look at this DDL stuff.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:32 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:24 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:18 pm Why is lynching a low poster being considered today?

I find it unlikely that all if the scum can be found among the talkative folks.
I'm not advocating a lynch of a low poster without exhausting all our other options first.

I'll never understand this mentality. Worst thing about it is that it always seems to be the case.

Thah'ts why I compared low posters to zero posters.

There is that guy who makes 3-4 posts a day and contributes nothing. Sprityo, Sig and Wilgy could count on that category (personally I think Sprityo looks bad and I have no read on the other 2).

There is that guy who makes 1 post every 2 days saying hi and is a prime candidate for a replacement. I. e. Dom.

I think the former type can be a worthy lynch (though I'd like to ISO any of them before deciding). The later is not.

DDL mentions Wilgy in a list of "worthy lynch" low-posters, but puts the attention on sprityo.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:35 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:33 pm I didn't know Wilgy was playing in this game????

Actually he isn't, he forgot to use blue font.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:36 pm Nvm he is. I'm derping. Was looking for Wilgy at the W instead of D in the poll.

Ignore me plz.

IF DDL is Wilgy's teammate, then this is faked for distancing. If I were tunnelling, then I'd lean that way, but I don't want to tunnel. Up to you guys on this one.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:39 pm I don't feel like lynching Wilgy. He seems legit having trouble catching up. Would like to give him more time.

Almost too blatant and obvious to be really a teammate.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:42 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:38 pm *commercial music starts playing*
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I am not lynching Wilgy today.

Same here. DDL, lemme tell you something. I was liking your thoughts on Quin as the vote tomorrow, so I thought of a zany plan where I'd go after you for stupid reasons, but put a secret message in a post that I could refer back to in case things got ugly. I had some information I hoped to get out of this plan, but I don't want to share what it was. Really, I started to typed out what I hoped to get out of it, and then realized it was TMI and scaled it back.

BUT! Then I started to go through your posts and it's a little striking, some of the things I'm seeing in relation to Wilgy.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:04 pm I'm also bothered by the lack of votes in this day.

If Jay is bad, it would make sense for there to be some counter-wagon by now (maybe Wilgy is the counter wagon?). And I don't like how everyone who is voting for Jay is someone I'm currently townreading (well there is Jack, but I like current Jack more than Day 1 Jack so i'm still on the fence about him). Maybe mafia is just watching from afar, since the civs are doing their dirty work for them. So they don't need to expose themselves, by making bussing too obvious or risking discussion going against them.

ARGH! This one gives me the creeps too! The whole "bothered by the lack of votes" concerned-Civ schtick? Anyone reading this, please be objective, because I feel the tunnel closing in. And that's just the appetizer in this post.

That whole second paragraph, I don't even know how to talk about it, like setting up Wilgy as the opposing counterwagon... that makes him seem more Civ if Jay is bad, right? Or is the whole Jay-Wilgy suspicion just a grand manipulation by the shadowed baddies? MAYBE THEY'RE BOTH CIV, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:39 pm On Wilgy: I can't read him to save my life. That's why I'm mostly avoiding him.

Vague dismissive avoidance allows you to not contribute to Wilgy suspicion, but not defend him either.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:49 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:45 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:44 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:41 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:39 pm On Wilgy: I can't read him to save my life. That's why I'm mostly avoiding him.

Pokemon mafia was fun. I am sorry for that however.

I was already aware of my difficulty reading you before then, tbh. You could say I let my guard down in that game.

I did track you, though. But fuck G-Man.

Lmao, ain't that some shit.

DDL can you guess my top two Civ reads?

Do I win money if I do it? It sounds hard.

Let's say... nutella and Epi?

This whole exchange.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:04 pm I don't feel like lynching Wilgy. He doesn't make me feel any suspicion.

I feel some suspicion on Malakim on the other hand.

But now I don't wanna betray my civ Jay theory. Even though i'm also betraying my bad Jay theory to begin with.

Once again, is it just TOO blatant to believe?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:16 pm Alright.

Screw it.

*JJJ*

No matter what, he hasn't looked like a civ all game. If meta is worthless, I'll follow my gut.

And I don't want to lynch Wilgy.

Good night. Turning off my laptop.

When did this vote happen? Was DDL crucial in the JJJ or did he jump on after the writing was on the wall? And again the blatant Wilgy stuff. It could be a thing - is he trying to be so obvious that it's unbelievable?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:41 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:37 am EBWOP oh mal is still there heh.

I also think Wilgy might've been somewhere else? I know Epi/nutella/speed were on him for sure, and I thought Sloonei was too but if you weren't around at EoD it had to have been you.

I was on Jay during the last 4 hours of the phase. I voted for him before going to bed.

But other people were on him. I think Sloonei, Jack, Speed and Nutella. Some of them left. They came back later. I'm most interested in this comeback (and people who joined late like Epi).

Ok, so DDL voted for speedchuck fifth. That's not the best look. Then he wants to focus on other voters (a Civ-lookin' list if I've ever seen one, yes I see you speedchuck), specifically Epi. Joining fifth fits in my mind as a teammate bus vote, but I could say that about voting third, fourth, last...

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:02 am Took a quick review of EoD3:

- Nutella and Eoi look great
- Speedchuck looks off for jumping on Wilgy to save himself instead of Jay. Could see a Jay/Speed team-up.
- Bob looks Eh. He dropped out of the Jay thing when people started doing t, but jumped in again when they started coming bck. Jack looks similar to Bob in that regard.
- Eloh looks bad too.
- Sloonei looks awful. I bet he has the worst vote tracking out of anyone this game. The way he kept doing 180º turns on Jay, and those turns matched the flow of the thread is pingy as fuck, and also looks artificial. I'm only second doubting it because it threads close to "so bad it's good" territory, I actually doubt a true bad Sloonei would goof that hard. The Night 3 lynch feels similar too.

It ain't something that incriminates Wilgy, more like the opposite? In spirit anyway?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:11 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:01 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:45 pm Ok I'll bite.

DDL
Epignosis
Sloonei
Nutella
Dunya
Dr. Wilgy
Long Con
Speedchuck
Sig
INH
Elohcin
Quin
Kylemii
Colonialbob

@Sloonei

Orange means it's a light suspicion. I'm not really sold on it.

Yellow is neutral.

Anything above yellow is some degree of civ read.

Yes I'm torn on my scumpects.

Thanks, I dig this. Were there any names you had a difficult time deciding on? Or any reads that you surprised yourself with?

Wouldn't say I surprised myself because I have a general view on everyone. But the view for a lot of cases is "no idea". In recent years I've been more careful before actually saying someone looks civ or bad without a good reason for it.

I guess the bottom is hard to put a finger on than the top. I have a bad gut feeling about Kyle but it might be tunneling from my part, and so far I've been too lazy to actually ISO him. I don't have such a bad feeling about Bob, but I'm mostly sheeping you you since a lot of your points are good.

I've gut read Quin as civ before but he has also said some really suspicious stuff. Eloh is unreadable from my experience so I'm not even trying. INH/Sig are inactive.

Wilgy I don't really have a gut read but he looks good on the Jay lynch. Speed loooks slightly less good but I have a slightly better impression on him. LC is mostly gut.

Dunya onwards is where I start actually being confident. Mostly because information gathered from polls.

More Wilgy-friendly rhetoric.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:39 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:22 pm DDL-- "Wilgy I don't really have a gut read but he looks good on the Jay lynch."

I take issue you are basing your "good" read on a possible/ definite bussing scenario (not by all members of the team, but some). Is there anything else, other than the Jay lynch, that Wilgy has going for him in your opinion?

Where is Wilgy anyway, he's disappeared lately?

Well he's acting like a normal, scumhunting citizen, which is so rare for him it makes me feel good.

And I believe there was a civ in the Jay lynch, and that either Wilgy, or Speed, or both was an attempt to save Jay.

Is Wilgy the Civ?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:47 pm Ok Sloon I'll bite.

DDL: can you look at this cute face and not think it belongs to a completely innocent person?
Dr. WIlgy: normal Wilgy is such a delight to see I'm still drunk on it. Not a very strong reason so it remains a neutral read.
dunya: she feels legit. And her vote tracking is so crappy (opposing Jay lynch etc) it's hard to believe she would do it on purpose.
Elohcin: I can't read Elohcin for shit, and she seems like she really cares about the game which is not the case every game.
Kylemii: Well he is contributing. A lot. And my suspicion on him is a real case of tunneling so I might be completely wrong.
Long Con: he is so casual about the game it feels legit, a mafia might care more about his appearance.
ninja: I just flipped a coin and called heads if she was good. I got heads.
Nutella: lynch mechanics. Also feels casual like LC.
Quin: well he is being legit. He's not lying about that. The question is whether he is being legit as civ or doing that thing where you use your honesty to look good as bad.
Sig: I called tails this time, and got tails.
Sloonei: mechanics.
Speedchuck: been getting a "looks sincere"gut feeling since day 1. And he was the CFD against Jay so...

Neutral read. The guy you have never said a bad thing about, won't lynch, and just enjoy having around for personal reasons.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:25 pm Reasons I can read everyone as town:

Dragon D. Luffy - I have "mind-melded" with DDL on a couple of occasions, and he made one defensive post early on which read as highly emotional and passionate, the kind of thing I don't see being faked.
DrWilgy - Jay went after him hard.
dunya - Believable-as-heck tone, has put as much work as anyone into the thread despite numerous RL reasons not to.
Elohcin - She was Jay's top lynch priority on Day 3 when prompted to name any suspect at all. This would have to be a very aggressive bussing strategy for them to be teammates. This is also among the most involved games I've seen Elohcin play.
nijuukyugou - Finally a post from this player slot! Insertglorfblooper is town because there's no way two players fail to pick up a scum role card, right?
Kylemii - Believable tone. Has put a high volume of content into the thread without ever appearing seriously uncomfortable.
Long Con - He's a fearless scumster, but appears less involved than usual this game.
nutella - Possibly Everest. Helped kickstart the Jay bandwagon on Day 3.
Quin - I believe his tone, he aggressively defended Jay, and Jay may have been making a concerted effort to pocket Quin.
sig - Jay tried to lynch him.
Sloonei - Role card says so.
speedchuck - Similar to Long Con, though I have at times also felt like Speedchuck has presented some sincere thoughts and doubts in the thread.

I'm heading out for a few hours and I'd like for this exercise to actually lead somewhere today, so I'll explain myself and ask The Question now and hope that it helps in some area.

The purpose of this exercise is to get us all thinking about the possibility that each player is town, because that is a possibility obviously. After going through and making the list, my question for all the kind folks who participation is this: which pro-town arguments were the hardest for you to come up with, or which arguments did you find least convincing?

For me the players I struggled with/were least convinced by are: Long Con, nijuukyugou, wilgy, and speedchuck. Those are the players I'd be inclined to follow up on as a result of this for myself. But the point of gathering as many folks as possible is so that we can all compare our answers. So I'd like a response to this from everybody who participated. @dunya @DrWilgy @speedchuck @Kylemii

I'd still be happy if more people wanted to take a crack at this and I appreciate those of you who have gone through with this at my incessant begging. Thanks.

Oh I like this.

I guess that would be Wilgy. And Eloh. Kyle too.

Quin's one reminded me that he does sound legit in spite of everything.

My mind is not working. Is he saying that Wilgy is one of the three least-convincing Civ reads? That would be the first negative thing he has said.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:11 am Speed is looking supatown now

I like to believe mafia wouldn't let a CFD start on a third member of their faction when Jay and Wilgy were already leading the poll.

I can't recall what this refers to.

Anyway, cool lynch bros, but Marmot isn't even online, so I'm going to bed. Later!

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:42 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:42 am

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:37 am Before LC voted I was entertaining the idea that he was using "Wilgy is already in the lead" as an excuse to not vote and to allow Wilgy and Everest to lynch me today. If Wilgy was town he'd try to follow up with his lynch. I see arguments for and against Wilgy being his teammate in that scenario. Him not considering Wilgy and Everest's votes at the time just freaked me out.

Sounds entertaining.

I have a choreographed dance to go with it if you'd like to see it.

No thank you.

I used to call him Epig, but then I saw people saying Epi and I was afraid he might think I'm calling him a pig.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:37 am Before LC voted I was entertaining the idea that he was using "Wilgy is already in the lead" as an excuse to not vote and to allow Wilgy and Everest to lynch me today. If Wilgy was town he'd try to follow up with his lynch. I see arguments for and against Wilgy being his teammate in that scenario. Him not considering Wilgy and Everest's votes at the time just freaked me out.

Sounds entertaining.