The Syndicate

Who made me do Kanye West?

Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:By the way, your welcome TH (and SVS) for stating in thread what my item was and that it was Oriental.

Though it seems you may have figured it out anyway with the book.
people keep suggesting in threads which items might be celestial but we knew what we needed the whole time. We had gotten most of them in the start poll, and then we robbed BR (I think?) night 1 to get another.
At the time, I thought I was the only person who knew that the bottle held an Oriental drug. And when TH spoke up and said he had it (when Epignosis should have had it), I was surprised he would be so blatant about it. Why did you say that anyway, TH?
That was a hint to LC that I had received the bottle from him, and that DP and I were Celestials.

At least that was confirmed for me. My face was the opposite of this:

thellama73 wrote:Will (reward for killing one particular person)
Surprisingly, it belongs to Zomberella12. It reads: "Whosoever holds this will at the time of my death will receive my entire fortune.” That's a weird thing to put in your will, but don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

So, I read it as closer to what BF said than S~V~S. And I can see how it implies that the person named in the Will is rich - "entire fortune" sounds like an entire fortune.

What was your angle, S~V~S, was this you trying to help the baddies on purpose?

blindfaeth wrote:That's odd, what brings you [Bullz] here out of the blue? Sure, you're playing the game, but I feel it's awful convenient you show up right after I mention it. He starts pushing an agenda of discrediting me and spreading doubt about my speculation. Is it because he's worried I know the name of his teammate, the millionaire? That's what I think.

Trust your instincts.

thellama73 wrote:Nothing (the first person who vote for nothing gets nothing. All subsequent votes for nothing will get something, a piece of info on what an item does)

Ha! I knew Nothing was something.

Eloh must have stolen my arrow.

Did the Ivory Arrow do anything, or was it just a Celestial relic?

thellama73 wrote:
Sato Okimo - The Japanese Lawyer - Can execute wills, stock certificates and promissory notes.

What did this role actually do?

Also, every "suspicion" I had of S~V~S and TH was solely to try and protect them. I figured they were Celestials from long before I manufactured the suspicions. I felt like Rabbit was on the same page there.

Turnip Head wrote:Hahaha, the fucking bottle! I was like... I don't want this!

But imagine it was Ear Tubes?

You guys would have loved me!

fingersplints wrote:What did you guys think of SVS buddha story?

It was great, and as the game went on I became more and more suspicious that she was Legga. Damn, I wish I had Legga's power the night I got killed. But that night, I got the power to roleblock 2 people. I saw it as a great way to narrow down a couple of folk who were not killing, but I never thought to roleblock my own wife, which would have saved my life.

Dom, Doctor Who wrote:Yes, I was the Master.

I will say that I am COMPLETELY frustrated with the way I lost. I didn't lose because of anything I did or did not do. I lost because several players were outed and outed themselves. It came to the point where if you were suspected, you dropped role hints until everyone got what role you were.
That's not how we play Mafia.

Good game, everyone. I had fun.

Dom, Game of Champions wrote:Of the people in the end game, the only person who was not outed/didn't out themselves was DH-- when excluding inactives because they don't matter at that point.

That's a problem.

Honestly, this is the second game on this site that has been absolutely DESTROYED because of info dumping and role outing. There's good in info dumping, but there's also, "hey i'm not bad and it rhymes with "prom".

Dom, I'm actually pretty surprised that you would call it BS that a baddie team would kill you for infodropping, when you're usually heavily on the other side of the argument.

Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Dom wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Dom wrote:
juliets wrote:Dom you so persevered that it put the doubt in my head about BR. Why is he asking that question? Why is he so sure Vompati doesn't have the items? etc. You turned my head and thats all it took along with SVS.
I might have won if I had waited just a day or two longer before bringing it up
Actually I was saying we should kill you the night we went with Rabbit (or maybe the night we killed TH). I think ultimately you only lived as long as you did because we hoped you'd go after SVS and get one or both of you lynched.
Why?
My instincts sucked this game.
You vouched for Canuck. We were annoyed with the amount people vouching for each other and wanted to eliminate anyone with btsc, regardless of how active their partner was.
So I was killed because you were "annoyed" with the vouch I made for Canuck?

But SVS lived?-- in retrospect I don't know how I didn't pick up on it.

TBH that's BS.

It's not BS... you made yourself into a Confirmed Civvie, so you had to go. Basic Mafia logic. (I was following along at home at that point).

Long Con wrote:Anyway, I just want to reiterate to the Celestials, to Ichabod: please steal from me tonight. I promise that you will be glad you did. If you don't, then a great opportunity for you will be lost.

OH! So, funny story here. I wanted the Celestials to steal the Ear Tubes that I stole from Liz Night 1.

I figured I was going to be nightkilled very promptly for coming after Epig and getting him lynched, and I didn't want the Ear Tubes in baddie hands.

Unfortunately, I didn't know that I had stolen the Bottle from Epig's safe when I assumed Luke McKracken's role. It was unclear that Luke got to STEAL from the safe, it seemed like he just got to SEE what was in the Safe.

So when Llama told me my Bottle was stolen, I was like "What bottle??"

Sorry if that was confusing, TH, I can't imagine what you guys must have thought I was trying to do.

Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Even though i knew you were bad, it really was like kicking a kitten.
What is voting for me like?
I can't believe players fell for your bullshit case on me on Day 2.

I didn't do myself any favors, sure, but whatever.
I want to point out at this time that when I made the reference to Black Rock getting killed, I was just being amused. There was no plot behind that remark, as Long Con later alleged.

I alleged that you should have defended MM instead of accusing him.

Two curses here, I believe.

rabbit8 wrote:RIP Eloh...interesting.

Interesting Item?

Dom wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Dom wrote:
Long Con wrote:I just feel like listing my lists would only paint targets on people.
I look forward to your thoughts during day 8 then.
Ok, but right now I don't have much. It's literally "these are the people that could be bad:". Your name is on that list because I don't have some good reason to believe you're not.
I undetsand nwo:)

*not sure if serious*

Dom wrote:
Long Con wrote:I just feel like listing my lists would only paint targets on people.
I look forward to your thoughts during day 8 then.

Ok, but right now I don't have much. It's literally "these are the people that could be bad:". Your name is on that list because I don't have some good reason to believe you're not.

I just feel like listing my lists would only paint targets on people.

Well, that was an annoying curse, well done curser. "u u" was supposed to mean "uh uh" as in "no".

Sorry, Elohcin, but you are just on a list of people that could be baddies in my books. I have a shorter list of people I don't think are baddies.

Dom wrote:
Long Con wrote:yyyyyaaa

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r u kidding me you clever bastard.

does it have to do with his voting record?

u u

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LOL I read it as a desperate attempt for the Celestials to stop the baddies from slaughtering them in numerical order.

Turnip Head wrote:She could have been lying about it getting stolen

It would explain why there seemed to be one too many steals on night 1... smart move too, because the baddies would probably want to get the Ear Tubes after she told us how she could listen in on the baddies.

Why would the safe scare us?

Interesting point on Lizkeen, Metalmarsh! It's like she knew that a baddie or Celestial had the Safe, isn't that right?

Vompatti wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Vompatti wrote:Thanks for the overwhelming support.
I just don't understand you, man. I want to. People were pushing for you to be our ambassador, to be our Champions Game nominee. I didn't understand if they were joking or not... maybe you have an impressive history of wins under your belt that I'm simply ignorant of, I can only go off the limited experience I've had with you. You seem to give purposely enigmatic answers to most questions. Help me out here, tell me what your angle is maybe?
I don't care about winning, therefore I play the way I feel like playing regardless of my role.

What about the other players who DO care about winning? Players who are on your team? Seems like a really poor and selfish attitude to have. If this were a baseball team, and you were the guy that "didn't care about winning", so you do a funny dance while the ball is in play instead of trying to throw or catch it... your team would get pretty upset that you hurt their chances of winning, and they'd have a pretty darn valid point.

Maybe you should just follow along with games and make non-player comments along the way instead of playing them?

Vompatti wrote:Thanks for the overwhelming support.

I just don't understand you, man. I want to. People were pushing for you to be our ambassador, to be our Champions Game nominee. I didn't understand if they were joking or not... maybe you have an impressive history of wins under your belt that I'm simply ignorant of, I can only go off the limited experience I've had with you. You seem to give purposely enigmatic answers to most questions. Help me out here, tell me what your angle is maybe?

Dom wrote:I doubt anyone with lots of votes is the Millionaire because they would have stopped the Epig lynch or something?

That's a big assumption to make about The Millionaire's powers.

And what of Vompatti? I'm interested in your opinion.

Vompatti plays intentionally inscrutably to a degree that I have difficulty understanding. I've been sitting here thinking about your question for a little while now, and my current conclusion is that I'd have to see a Vompatti win in order to understand his gameplay. If this kind of thing works to help him win as a Civvie or a baddie, then maybe I'd understand, but from what I have seen, it usually just gets him suspected and lynched. I can't say for sure what he is. Maybe he got a rolechecking item and has known TH is a baddie since Night 1, and this is how he shows us. Maybe he's a baddie trying to maintain a narrow line of unsureness among the voting majority.

To be honest, I find the case on LizKeen to be the most compelling. I'm also looking at TH and S~V~S for other reasons I've shared.

Love the poem, by the way.

RIP, Splintsy, if it's any consolation, I trusted you for the most part.

I feel like it's something I've seen in a game before... a baddie killing the very Civvie that trusted them the most as a way to trick the other Civvies.

Weird... where are these items??

There is definitely the element of the missing items though. Epig should have the Two-Headed Elephant Charm. And a couple of others, I haven't looked to see what the people Epig killed had.

I got nothing. Perhaps fingersplints got the safe WITH a few items in it?

Simpatico!

Putting the blame all on Golden for your turnaround is so... convenient.

S~V~S wrote:But a true one

I'm gonna have to get a bunch of your posts together, because I can remember quite a few that made me think "Hmm, that's suspish especially if Epig flips bad!"

S~V~S wrote:
LizKeen wrote:I'll go look at Hedville when I get home.

We only have your word you were even cursed,and how did you know a civvie did it? The doctor has an ability? How were you silenced when you posted on Epi. Wouldn't silence trump everything?
You completely backtracked today and you flipped your opinion on Zombarella when she was in trouble.

FS, you suspect me, what about SVS?

I'm not worried, I don't think there's shoe-eating in my future.
I think Splints has made it clear she does not suspect me

And the Silence is a baddie power. They would not both curse & silence someone, would they? The host allowed me to meet the conditions of the curse and also the silence in that I could not talk about anything other than the curse, and could only make the minimum number of posts required by the curse, 5.

And this host does not think that one trums the other, he obviously thinks all targets are equal

Linki ~ there you go. I thought Epi sent me the Compliment Epi curse. But in retrospect, I can think of a few others who would find that amusing Civvie Others.

A complicated story.

Wabash street-train, I choose you!

S~V~S wrote:I got silenced & cursed. I was allowed to complete both by only posting compliments to Epi in my posts, and by making the minimum # of posts to complete the curse. No other topic, and no other posts.

S~V~S wrote:You played as nobodys fool at hedville? I played like every game at hedville, I don't recall you. What games did you play?

Linki, I was not defending him, I was not sure he was bad.

The other night I got both silenced and cursed with the Compliment Epi curse. So the Epi curse had to come from the civs. I presumed Epi gave it to me. But when I reread where you were coming from, I realized he probably did not. That it came from someone else. So I flipped opinions on Epi & on someone else after I reread you this AM, LC.

What do you mean you got silenced AND cursed with the Compliment-Epi Curse? I recall you complimenting Epig a lot, so you clearly weren't silenced...

There was quite a bit of you sort-of-defending Epig there.

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