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by FZ.
Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:17 am
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Re: Death Note Mafia [END]

Ricochet wrote:Reading your post-game thoughts, FZ., I tend to agree now that an unlynchable detective would have probably had more problems after surviving a lynch, due to Team Light gradually forming and becoming aware of each other, leaving room to "hide" only for a third Shinigami (who, it turns out, had to do with best to out himself) and Higuchi (which people wouldn't have believed much, because of their fixation on Epignosis), but I still believe an effort to conceal this till the bitter end would have been better than thinking "outing" is "preventing" anything. It seems that Team Light deduced your and DH's roles from failed kills, anyway - which leads back to a problem, perhaps, with the mechanics.

Sorry again for gunning you. I was aware already who Kami (Light) was, so I figured you must be Mello or Near, but I had to pretend you are still an option for Light. I'm glad if you ultimately enjoyed this, because I remember well your disappointment in being killed early in previous games (one time by myself and my team, in Film :blush: ). Even if so debateable, I still think your performance was really great.
In retrospect, outing myself make even more sense, knowing that the baddies already knew who I was. I often have no problem with outing other civvies, because I'm one of those who gives credit to the baddies and think they know a whole lot more than civvies do, and even try to read everything in the thread to get information from the "hints". So, I think giving the civvies that knowledge is important. And what happened in this game only proves it. Detectives aren't guaranteed to "follow everything", because they're only one person with limited powers, and sometimes clueless, while baddies each contribute to understanding what is going on, and usually have more powers at their disposal. I think that in light of everything that's been revealed, outing myself was the better option. If some people would just care to listen :P , it might have even made a difference.


In any case, you did what you should have, and I think you played really really well. :) Yeah, it was nice to get to play a little more finally, but I was targeted for a kill. It just failed. I think people don't like me :P
by FZ.
Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:16 am
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Re: Death Note Mafia [END]

**That said, I would do the same thing again, in terms of not voting him, because I want to trust people to know where to put the line, and I think being considerate is more important than winning the game.
by FZ.
Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:12 am
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Re: Death Note Mafia [END]

Well....................


Congrats to the winners :nicenod:
Especially TH, who I thought tried to help the detectives as much as he could, and never understood why people weren't giving him more credit for it. And I knew you'd know me better than anyone.

Also, Rico did fool me. I knew that TH suspected him, but just couldn't find anything wrong with how he played, so props from me.

Daisy, I think you did very well, although every time I thought you were suspicious, I told myself that it's the travelling from here to there you kept talking about. But when you started getting really pissed at Epi, I thought you were good. So good job :)

DH, I hope I didn't take away the fun from your game, but if I did, I apologize.



As for me outing myself, I never planned to do it, and I went many days without saying anything, but instead, fighting as strong as I could (boo to all those who said an unlynchable civ wouldn't fight so hard), because I felt that's what I had to do, and because I thought if I did get lynched, when the baddies gained BTSC, they would know I was either Near or Mello.
But, after Epi decided Russ checked me out, and came out with the probability factor, I thought that if I get lynched, the baddies know who I am, and the civvies think that I survived it because I was a Kira, and I was worried that once L was killed, Mello would NK me. I thought it would be best to just put it out there. Ironically, it turns out Russ didn't even target me, so that's that :rolleyes: .
At one point I also thought llama was L, especially after how he posted on himself, and I thought he probably tried to summon me to a BTSC and failed and thought that combined with Russ' "results", would make him positive I was bad.

In my defence, I wasn't lying about starting the game not wanting to play, and doing it only because MP was really excited about my role and thought I would do really good in it (shows how much he knows :P ), and I felt I couldn't disappoint him. And then, because I was in a foul mood starting it, it got people suspicious of me and it only escalated from that point on. I admit I was really frustrated this game, and even though most of the time I thought llama and Epi were just having tunnel vision, there were times where I started doubting it, because I couldn't understand why they weren't even considering I was not bad. But I understand where Epi was coming from, and I might have done a lot of things the same. That said, Epi, I think this is something we all do, and maybe we should learn from (though I'm pretty sure neither you or me will :P ). We decide someone is guilty and then everything they say is used as evidence they are what we said they were. That's why I do use "emotions" or "intuition", because it sometimes saves me from myself. If you get a feel of the person, it might help you decide better. I never said don't use logic. I even said a few times that your cases were the best.
I still prefer you hosting me than butting heads with me :P But I really wanted to play with you because I usually play your games.

I am disappointed in Bass for the emotional manipulation he used on us. I thought his attempt at making it better the day after was not enough. We all literally didn't lynch him because we felt bad for suspecting him because he had a death in the family, and he used that by saying he wasn't here and that's why everything he wrote was BS. It doesn't even matter if he was lynchable at the time or not. he shouldn't have done it.
That said, I would do the same thing again, in terms of not posting, because I want to trust people to know where to put the line, and I think being considerate is more important than winning the game.

llama, don't beat yourself up, I think you did a very good job with some of the things, while not so good in others...We all do that most of the games. Sorry I got angry at points. I still love playing with you.


MP, I think it was a very exciting and creative game, and obviously, thoroughly planned and executed. I'm not sure these types of games are for me, because I get lost in all the mechanics, secrets and complicated roles and win conditions, and I can't keep up. Maybe it's why some people considered me bad because I was supposed to keep up with everything. I just couldn't. I have to keep a lot of information in my head in RL, and I guess I don't have enough room :P
I hope I didn't disappoint you with the way I played. It was really hard to focus on finding baddies when I had to defend myself so much :shrug:
As for the mechanics, I do agree with those who said that too many unlynchable baddies is very frustrating. I get that each team could win, but even though TH tried to help the civvies, he didn't have to, which means that this was something to consider when planning. Also, other than Mello, who could only use his power after L died, or maybe Near, also when L died, the only way we could win was by lynching the baddies. So if they can't be lynched, you feel like there's no point in even trying to find them. The most important remark, in my opinion would be that we not only had to find baddies, which I think we did pretty good, by the way, we had to find the right baddie every day, and the probability of that happening was very low. I used to be a very sore loser, and even though I sometimes still take it hard, I'd like to think I've grown since I started playing mafia, and that this point of view would have been voiced by me even if I had won....though probably not :P

Still, with all the frustration, the outing and the FU, which I've never used in a game, neither as a baddie or a civ, but agree with DH, would never have said as a baddie, I enjoyed playing this game. There were twists and turns left and right, and never a dull moment, so congrats on all of that. You managed to suck me in. Thanks!! :D
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:28 pm
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Topic: Death Note Mafia [END]
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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 10]

Can I say fuck you now?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:24 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

:( Wow, this sucks big time
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:22 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

The way Boo didn't try very hard to convince us not to vote for him makes me think this is going to end in a no lynch...
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:21 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:
zeek wrote:Not much. At that point it still could have ended in a Bass lynch. Plenty of people said they might vote that way, so :shrug:
Possibly.
What do you make of it? :ponder:
I don't know. It's the first time I've even considered you to be not good, because you voted right when all the tension started, like you're trying to avoid accountablity. But since it's Bass who I don't trust either, I guess I can wait and see.
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:17 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

zeek wrote:Not much. At that point it still could have ended in a Bass lynch. Plenty of people said they might vote that way, so :shrug:
Possibly.
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:13 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

What do you all make of DH's vote?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:09 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

*the one (not then)
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:09 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

thellama73 wrote:If I die, I want you all to know that I love you very much.
:hug: I hope you don't. Unless you're bad. But looking at the list of voters for you vs. then one for Boo, I can't believe I even hesitated
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:06 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I this really feels like a llama save and its making me nervous so I'm voting llama.
This post made me vote for Boo.
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:04 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Okay, I'm going with Boo. I'm going to be really pissed if I screw this up
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:00 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Mata just voted llama. WTF?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:59 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Voted Bass.
Why? It looks like it's going to be between Boo and llama. Why aren't you taking a stand?
I am taking a stand.
You think both llama and Boo are good?

Zeek, now that Epi's voted, would you still take your vote off?
:mafia:
What do you want? You're not helping me here
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:59 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

:sigh: So Boo just disappeared?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:54 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Voted Bass.
Why? It looks like it's going to be between Boo and llama. Why aren't you taking a stand?
I am taking a stand.
You think both llama and Boo are good?

Zeek, now that Epi's voted, would you still take your vote off?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:52 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

DharmaHelper wrote:Voted Bass.
Why? It looks like it's going to be between Boo and llama. Why aren't you taking a stand?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:48 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Epi, you're debating this too, I can see it. Are you really convinced Boo is lying?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:46 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Boo, why did you wait until the end of the day to say all this?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:46 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

boo wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote: What do you think he is?
I am continually mystified by this attitude. This isn't pool. You don't have to call your shot. I don't know who boo is, but I think his motives are impure. He might be Higuchi, he might be Kira X. He might be Light. I just think he is bad.
No, you think Epi will vote for me because he said he would, so you did.
I can't freaking decide who I should trust between the two of you. Convince me
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:34 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

thellama73 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I would rather vote for BR too, Rico, but I also don't want to die.
Despite your misguided beliefs about me, you can count on my vote to help save you.
Epi, who would you rather lynch, Bass, Boo, or BR?

(B for Baddie is back!)
Of the three, I'd say boo is my top pick.
I'm going to vote for boo then. I am not Higuchi and I think he knows it.
What do you think he is?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:31 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

I hate this game....in a good way :P
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:30 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

I mean Boo, not Epi
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:30 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

While you got me wondering, Epi, Rico has a point there too.
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:24 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

I'm back. Despite your tunnel vision, I'm going to help llama as well. I didn't like Boo's vote either.

Who are we voting for?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:50 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

FZ. wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Who do you think is Light FZ? Who do you think is Mikami?
I have no idea. I don't care Epi thinks a detective is supposed to follow every change and secret in the game. I'm just regarding it as baddies vs. civvies. The only thing that I'm not ignoring in terms of theme, is the roles that can't be lynched. If Mata can't be lynched today, I will not vote there even if I think she's bad. Other than that, I'm playing with no who's who. I want to find a lynchable baddie this day.

So who do I think is bad? n
I think Bass' last post looks like a baddie who feels like we're going to be disappointed in him, so he's saying he didn't mean what we thought he meant. So I think we should probably vote for him this day.

Then, I have no idea what to do with BR. I feel like she hasn't been herself the entire game, but now she has RL issues and she can't really defend herself.

And then, there are Epi, Boo and llama, who at some points really concern me, and then at others, I feel better about them.
I don't think Spaceydaisy is bad, and I don't think DH is either. Zeek seems pretty okay to me, and with Rico, I'm trying to see your suspicions, but it's not happening for me. Can you please give a succinct list of reasons why you think he's bad?

Whats that n?



I think my vote will go on Bass unless someone convinces me otherwise.
Oops.
Oops, here goes again

LOL, I must have started writing something. No idea what


Anyway, I have to go. I'll be back in a few hours. Where is everyone?
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:49 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

DharmaHelper wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
FZ. wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Who do you think is Light FZ? Who do you think is Mikami?
I have no idea. I don't care Epi thinks a detective is supposed to follow every change and secret in the game. I'm just regarding it as baddies vs. civvies. The only thing that I'm not ignoring in terms of theme, is the roles that can't be lynched. If Mata can't be lynched today, I will not vote there even if I think she's bad. Other than that, I'm playing with no who's who. I want to find a lynchable baddie this day.

So who do I think is bad? n
I think Bass' last post looks like a baddie who feels like we're going to be disappointed in him, so he's saying he didn't mean what we thought he meant. So I think we should probably vote for him this day.

Then, I have no idea what to do with BR. I feel like she hasn't been herself the entire game, but now she has RL issues and she can't really defend herself.

And then, there are Epi, Boo and llama, who at some points really concern me, and then at others, I feel better about them.
I don't think Spaceydaisy is bad, and I don't think DH is either. Zeek seems pretty okay to me, and with Rico, I'm trying to see your suspicions, but it's not happening for me. Can you please give a succinct list of reasons why you think he's bad?

Whats that n?

LOL, I must have started writing something. No idea what


I think my vote will go on Bass unless someone convinces me otherwise.
Oops.
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:42 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Turnip Head wrote:Who do you think is Light FZ? Who do you think is Mikami?
I have no idea. I don't care Epi thinks a detective is supposed to follow every change and secret in the game. I'm just regarding it as baddies vs. civvies. The only thing that I'm not ignoring in terms of theme, is the roles that can't be lynched. If Mata can't be lynched today, I will not vote there even if I think she's bad. Other than that, I'm playing with no who's who. I want to find a lynchable baddie this day.

So who do I think is bad? n
I think Bass' last post looks like a baddie who feels like we're going to be disappointed in him, so he's saying he didn't mean what we thought he meant. So I think we should probably vote for him this day.

Then, I have no idea what to do with BR. I feel like she hasn't been herself the entire game, but now she has RL issues and she can't really defend herself.

And then, there are Epi, Boo and llama, who at some points really concern me, and then at others, I feel better about them.
I don't think Spaceydaisy is bad, and I don't think DH is either. Zeek seems pretty okay to me, and with Rico, I'm trying to see your suspicions, but it's not happening for me. Can you please give a succinct list of reasons why you think he's bad?

I think my vote will go on Bass unless someone convinces me otherwise.
by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:04 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

bea wrote:Yea - the promotion is prolly - I hope not - but likely the death nail in my mafia life.

But it was fun while it lasted. And I hope next time around I can keep playing and having fun.

It' most cerianly means that my Bowie game will likely not ever be played. And that makes me sad. But ya know - you take your hits and keep on moving on.

You though. Should I get to play again. You have a VERY special place in my heart :D
First of all, congrats on your promotion Bea!! I'm happy for you :D But regarding you not playing mafia anymore:
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by FZ.
Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:59 am
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

juliets wrote:I've got to say I'm disappointed in Bass for not getting himself in here and playing the game with us. Lots of people gave him the botd regarding his lack of engagement in the game. I agnonized over voting for him and now here we are and haven't heard a thing from him. I also have a slight twinge about him not acknowledging my telling him I hope he's not using rl as a way for a baddie to get away and I would think less of him and he gave no response like I would think he would give to "not worry, I'm not bad, I won't disappoint. Small thing I know but it's only been a day and I have the heebie jeebies about him again.
I was actually thinking the same thing :(

Also, I didn't expect BR to show up like that. I guess I was wrong...Which brings me back to her as a suspect. But I will give her the BOTD because of her RL issues, and hope she comes back and starts talking
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:37 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

I'm going to bed, I'm too tired to think. I was up until 3 am last night.

In any case, I think a lot more people need to start talking more and say who they are thinking of voting for, and why.

I want to hear more of SD's thoughts as well as Zeeks and BAss. I also want to know who Epi is going to go after now that he can't lynch me.

I'll give my thoughts tomorrow. It's too hard to form meaningful thoughts in my condition.

Night
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 5:00 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Ricochet wrote:
FZ. wrote:Rico, what do you think about TH's suspicions of you? Do you think he's misguided but trying to be helpful, or just trying to cause chaos, like llama thinks? Also, you used the term "informed" when you talked about him earlier. Is that a slip and you think he's informed about you some how?
They're nicely built (even up to classic TH standards, from what I've seen in Film and how I understand him to be generally expected from him :noble:), but sadly wrong. I offered my rebuttals both times he made a case on me - he says that didn't change anything for him, which is fine with me. I'm generally more ok with his out-in-the-open choice of Shinigamiesque gameplay, certainly more than laugh-in-our-face-joker MM.

Regard the last bit, I explained to him what I meant by that.
I have to say I don't see you as that suspicious, but TH is very good at finding baddies, so who knows. I'm watching your back and forth
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:39 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Turnip Head wrote:I'm not sure I follow you FZ.
:sigh: I don't want to say too much
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:38 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Turnip Head wrote:
FZ. wrote:TH, knowing what we know, could BR still be bad. Is it possible in terms of mechanics?
I assume so... I can't think of any reason why she couldn't be bad.
She'd have to give up something
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:34 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Rico, what do you think about TH's suspicions of you? Do you think he's misguided but trying to be helpful, or just trying to cause chaos, like llama thinks? Also, you used the term "informed" when you talked about him earlier. Is that a slip and you think he's informed about you some how?
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:32 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

There are so many players that we've given a free pass to, it bothers me. Not sure what to do with it.
TH, knowing what we know, could BR still be bad. Is it possible in terms of mechanics?


linki: I give baddies more credit than most people give them. As a baddie, I'll be much more attentive to try and figure out roles, so I know who to kill, I usually know before others what's going on. So the framing thing if possible is something that they've had to have thought about themselves. I don't know if it would be worth it to them, but I want to put it out there, so they don't try to push it later.
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:26 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Turnip Head wrote:Rico is the person I'm most convinced is a baddie at the moment, but I don't think he's someone that we need to lynch today.

And omg FZ don't give then any ideas on how to frame you :doh:
If it makes the note change hands, it's worth it if we know about it. Those who want to suspect me will do it anyway. Those who want to think, will think
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:03 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

TH, is Rico still your top suspect at the moment?
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:01 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Ricochet wrote:I'm conflicted about FZ. post-lynch, because I said L's report afterwards would be most relevant and now he'll either be killed before submitting one or will have to be really insinuative about a DN transfer (he didn't exactly put the information out there, in case Matahari is Misa, which makes me believe he can only hint at it) if he can still get a message through in time. Of course there's still the survey on Higuchi we might get (for Namikawa's phone call) to point out if Light let go of his DN and Higuchi has it now. If none of this happens or is clear, I think it's possible FZ. is actually what she claims to be. (Unlike Epig, FZ., I will probably offer some post-game apologies if you prove to be a detective, because the whole thing will prove once and for all how much I suck at trusting player's genuine civ claims, judging by this game and Film :blush:).

I'm not sure about her connection with Boomslang's kill either, wasn't our understanding of Kira's kills that he still has to schedule them during the Night, even if he delays them until later during the next Day? I get that she could still have been aware of this kill, if she's part of Team Light, but in that case, like TH said, I see no reason or positive outcome for her to comment openly about this right before it happened.

FZ., why do you find DP genuine? His D7 vote was "I'm going where all the most votes are going". His D8 was "I'm voting with Mata because I agree with her voters". His D9 vote was "I'm going with Bass even if it's currently pointless".

Also, I forgot to post earlier, but: you said you don't give a shit about the theme and it's too complicated to follow and that doesn't make you a baddie (when Epig criticized you), but are critical of me apparently not relying enoough on the "extra" stuff?

Not sure about Llama, even though he said he could come with many good options, then just circled back to FZ. and TH (+ Epig). I wouldn't be surprised for him to be a detective with a vision the length of Laerdal Tunnel.

Also, even though I get how Epig would be most suspicious for his gameplay, I don't know how I feel about throwing in so many new and unverified names for Higuchi, when context points at Mata being either him or Misa. I find that a better statistical likelihood compared to normal gameplay interpretations. Then again, I seem to be the only one so far believing that, so give me more insight on why Epig would really stick out as an obvious Higuchi, because when the time comes for the detectives to answer the survey for Namikawa's call, it'd be definitely a good idea not to spread our votes much.
Is it possible in any way to frame me with the DN passing hands? Could they do it just to make L think it passed, or with all the unlynchable lynches, is it impossible?

As for DP, I can't say I can fully read him, but he comes off like he's got nothing to hide, like he's following what he feels like. Again, I'm judging by how I play, but I'd feel the need to not vote like that if I were a baddie, because I'd be afraid of how it may look. That said, I've already realized I expect too much of people, so who knows.

linki: Oh, right. I'm sorry, I just keep forgetting everything with so much information. I'm having a hard time keeping up, and I can't be bothered to go back and read every time I don't remember things :blush:
by FZ.
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

I'm asking because aren't the detectives supposed to get rid of all Kiras and Kira supporters? How can we get rid of Hyuk? Or is he none of the above?
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

Ricochet wrote:SPOILERS FOR EVERYONE ELSE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SHOW

FZ., the first is L, in a clip from the episode (and the day) in which he died. That is an anime-only foreshadowing scene in which he has one last conversation with Light (and cleans his feet for some bloody reason - hey Epig, did you ever feel this scene had idk weird biblical connotations). The second is Yagami Light, just laughing like a maniac (don't remember the scene, episode).
Thanks. I had a feeling these were the characters.
Anyone have an idea what his win conditions can be other than outing him by lynching him twice, like TH suggested?
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Ricochet wrote:Well I just had to give my Speaking proficiency test on topics with 0% accuracy of fucks given such as helping strangers, unpaid community work and trees. Yes, TREES. I was so close to answer that I don't care and I'd rather be at home playing Mafia right now.

RIP Watari old man. :puppy: Not a good situation right now.

FZ., I am constantly trying to rely on the "extra" stuff, but I'll admit I may not be doing a very good job at it. I usually get deterred by the various levels of uncertainty in what I can deduce rather than going with it no matter how uncertain it can be. If TH, for instance, will prove to have been genuine in his help and level of deductions, that he's been kicking ass in this game - but if the contrary, he's just been very "informed".
I think there's a misunderstanding concerning the "extra" stuff. I don't mean what's going on behind the scenes in terms of powers and roles, but rather the "vibes" people are giving you. I know some players *caughEpiCaugh* look at it condescendingly, but I feel that a lot of time the "facts" tell only half of the story and reading a person by how genuine he comes off is also important. In that regard, you're more like Epi I guess. Just not sure if it's real or not.
thellama73 wrote:
juliets wrote:llama, why do you think TH has been unhelpful? Are you thinking of something specific or just overall? It seems to me he's been very helpful.
I think the unlynchable Shinigami are playing for their own amusement and own motives. He's not interested in helping us, he's interested in helping himself. This has been the case all throughout the game, but you see it most recently in his pointless antagonism of me, which I presume he is doing just because he finds it funny, or he wants me dead because I am annoying to him. You saw that when he demanded I name suspects (which as I pointed out, proves nothing) and then voted for me because I didn't play along. I don't think any of it has to do with actually interest in catching Kira.
I disagree. I've been an independent role and I've tried to help the civvies most of the time. I could win with either, but since I enjoy being good more than bad, I chose to play it like I'm a civvie, and when there were 1 baddie and 1 civvie remaining, I made a deal with the civvie and helped them win. I've said this many times, TH is the player that plays the closest game to mine, in my opinion, and I think (or hope), I'm a pretty good reader of him. I think he's doing just what I described


linki: Yeah, I guess you're right, TH.
I'm going to get back to you on your question
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:42 pm
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:
FZ. wrote:Can I just say that I love you TH (but if you turn out bad, I'm never trusting you again). :D
May I ask you abput your feeigs on me FZ? :D
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also.

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Metalmarsh89 wrote:And also.

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I don't know who these characters even are, but I get the feeling I'm not fond of you that much :P

MM, seriously, what are you trying to do other than keep your win conditions?
by FZ.
Sun Mar 15, 2015 12:18 pm
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I can't stay, but if you read the roles again, you'll see why I'm starting to trust BR.
by FZ.
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I'm not sold on Russ thinking Boo wasn't good. I think that if he wasn't sure about him but he started gaining his suspicion, he would have checked him. The fact that he said what he did probably means that he either got a good result but wasn't sure it was a valid result, or he didn't check him.
Since it seems he investigated me and I know he was wrong, he definitely could be wrong about others, but I don't want to rely on it, because it didn't get us far last time.


Here is the list of players. We're supposed to have 8 baddie roles. So far, we have 2 dead Kira supporters and 2 players who are probably bad. We still need to find 4 more baddies (assuming they didn't take any of their own down)

Bass_the_Clever- the only thing making me think he's not a baddie is his RL situation

Black Rock- Hmm, might have changed my opinion on her due to recent events

boo- Really not sure about him. He's like the 2 old guys from the Muppets. He's viewing things from the outside, throwing peanuts and comments every once in a while to stir things up. I'm still not sure if he's doing it in an attempt to harm or because that's how he plays. Some of his posts seem very logical and helpful, so he's a tough one for me.

DharmaHelper- I have no reason to suspect him. He felt genuine to me throughout the game.

DisgruntledPorcupine -Not much to go on, but his latest posts feel genuine.

Epignosis- I really go back and forth with him. One minute I think he's really doing his best to find baddies, building cases and doing a lot of ground work. The next, I think maybe Boo is right and like I initially thought, he wanted me out not because he wanted to help the civvies, but to help himself.

FZ.- That's me. True and blue good.

juliets- Julliets has been doing all the "right" things. She's considering all angles, listened to what everyone says and asked questions. Mostly, it feels like she's like her usual self. That said, I haven't seen her as a baddie, and also, unlike previous games I've played with her, every once in a while, I get this feeling like all her considerations are not really genuine. To those who only go with pure evidence, there's nothing there, but I feel there's something I can't shake off. I can't do anything about it either, so it means nothing. If someone wants to check her out, that would be nice.

Matahari-bad

Metalmarsh89-bad

Ricochet-seems very logical and I find myself agreeing with him on many things, but unlike others I've come to trust, it ends with the logic. He seems very helpful, but he isn't relying on the "extra" stuff at all. It could be just a personality thing, or it could be because TH is right about him and he's bad. I'm keeping an eye on him more out of process of elimination than other things.

Spacedaisy-Comes off genuine to me, though I would like to know what about Epi makes her so suspicious of him.

thellama73- If he's a civvie, he needs to step up his involvement and stop with the tunnel vision.

Turnip Head-Sidoh I think he's Sidoh, and I think he's trying to help the detectives. I think we should listen to him more, not less

zeek- He comes off like having nothing to hide, but I don't feel he's contributing enough, so it's hard to say for sure
by FZ.
Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:31 pm
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And now, I'm going to bed. If anyone wants to actually look at bad behaviour and not just make crazy and ridiculous speculations, I'll be here tomorrow
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Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:30 pm
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boo wrote:
FZ. wrote:Boo, if I had done it to get Mikami to commit suicide or whatever, why would I wait for the last second? Pretty stupid if you ask me. Give Mikami 4 minutes to get my message. Yep, makes a lot of sense
Well that's the thing about last ditch efforts, they tend to be the last thing you try, and you only try them when time is down to the wire.
Yeah, whatever you need to tell yourself. Is this for real? You're not telling me why I couldn't have said that an hour before, a day before, or somewhere in between? Come on.

I might need to strangle someone soon
by FZ.
Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:19 pm
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Boo, if I had done it to get Mikami to commit suicide or whatever, why would I wait for the last second? Pretty stupid if you ask me. Give Mikami 4 minutes to get my message. Yep, makes a lot of sense
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Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:17 pm
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Re: Death Note Mafia [DAY 10]

thellama73 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Question for everyone who's not a Shinigami: does TH voting for me because I didn't succumb to his ridiculous threats sound like genuine baddie hunting?
No, but like I said, you were so full of it and your suspicion of me has taken over the entire game. I think expecting you to give something other than what you have was fair. I also think it was a sort of a protest and calling your bluff vote, and he might also believe you're bad. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that he had to vote fast for some reason. I agree that he should have waited with his vote, but you really asked for it.

llama, I don't know if you're bad, but the way you've been handling things lately doesn't scream very civvie to me.
What do you think of Epignosis?
At least he's going to read things now, and his case on me was always better than yours, so between the two of you, I trust him more

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