Good result, though not really surprising.
Golden wrote:FZ. wrote:Scotty, no, I'm not sure that corruption means the player will change to bad, but I want to be sure about this, because if any of us were bad and could recruit or something of the sort, we'd take the most trusted player in the game. Right now, that's obviously Sloonei. So unless someone saved him, or he has a power to survive a NK on his own, I would be quite worried.
As for Golden voting Epi, that's a very weird choice, and I think we should think about why it's there. I doubt he was forced to do it, because Epig was not a high candidate for a lynch, so why waste it on him. So it seems he voted Epi for a good reason, at least to him.
Oh, and Neverwhere just reminded me about Splints.
Splints, of course civvies hesitate, but I think your choices for baddies are too easy. I think Bubbles is not bad, and based on his recent posts, I don't see Bass as bad either. I could be wrong of course, but it seems as if you chose the easy targets.
@sloonei, this is the post that first pinged me about FZ. Particularly, the middle paragraph. I do not at all like her attempt to read meaning in to my vote for epi while I'm not around to provide context. Particularly when she explains away the possibility of the vote being forced when I had no previous form for suspecting epi.
I've also subsequently been pinged about her focus on you as the corruptee, primarily because this does not back it up at all:
Dom wrote:SLOONEI sits on the floor. Silence. A pair of roller-skates with blades on them whiz by, only to just miss. ENTER two HOODED FIGURES. They shake hands, and ascend out.
SLOONEI exits SR.
I would think if this post indicated Wildhorn successfully corrupted someone, wildhorn is one hooded figure and the person corrupted is the other. But the two of them leave, and THEN sloonei exits stage right. For me, this borders on evidence that if there was a corruption, it is NOT sloonei - a point I've already made before. Certainly, it at least provides no evidence it would be you...
I have the vague theory that FZ could be on mafia team 2, could have a role that controls votes (or with a teammate who controls votes) and knows whether a corruption occurred and who did it, and that these posts are deliberate distancing.
I wouldn't say this is an exceptionally strong read, but I'm wary of FZ right now.
I do think she is genuinely baddie hunting (eg posts on splints) but in this game you can do that and still be bad.
I actually think being suspected a little is not bad, but I have to reply to this, because it's crap (no offense
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I was trying to understand why you voted the way you voted. I did not push for voting him, nor did I make something big out of it. I'm a person that needs to understand things, and when something that I don't understand happens, I bring it up. I want things to be out there. I was afraid that if you were silenced because you found out something important, they might try to kill you next before you could talk. The part about the forced vote was because in many games played here, there was a power to force a vote, so it felt like something that was possible. I didn't do anything with it other than bring it up. When you came in and said it wasn't the case, I dropped it. You are making something out of nothing.
As for Sloonei and the corruption thing, let's just say I've been burnt by something like that in the past. The most trusted player is the most prone to be recruited if there's such a power in a game, especially if we don't know of such a power. The way Dom's story was worded suggested it wasn't a save, but that something did happen. The high five along with the PM from the first night suggested it was a possibility. I haven't done anything to make Sloonei look bad. All I've done was put something on the table. I even told people there was not much point discussing it further at that point.
If you think I'm scummy for bringing things up and putting them on the table, that's your choice. But a civ would look at my entire behavior and judge it all with its context.
I think I actually trust both Golden and Sloonei, as well as Scotty. Though I'm fully aware one could be that baddie that fools everyone. That's what LC did on Flash. A high poster that everyone seemed to trust. Not sure which of them it could be yet, if at all.
I think I agree with both Golden and Sloonei on DF. He's been laying low, posting enough to be seen and not really clashing with anyone. Staying in everyone's good graces.
Nutella and Splints are still in my not trusted list. I go back and forth on them, but they are far from being on my trust list.
Neverwhere is someone I don't know if I trust very much. She seems to be agreeing with me quite often, and mostly on what I said on Sloonei and what I said about Golden's vote for Epig. It seemed a little too much to me. Not sure what to make of it yet. I might have to go read her posts later
BR is a question mark. I know she thinks I'm always suspicious of her, but I don't think I am. At least not to the point I aggressively go after her. I have to question her contribution here, which is not very high, but nothing screams baddie either.
Epig is a mystery. I don't think anyone can deny he's posting less than he did on day 1. He wanted LC out, but what I want to check later is, did he continue going after him strongly when he came back. If it was as strong, I think he can't be from his team, though it's possible, but if he subtly backed off without making it too obvious, it's possible. I think I recall he voted for G-man both days, and when I asked him what he would do, he said he doesn't want a tie. That made me feel better about him, because I think I know what his role was before. But the point is he didn't vote for LC but G-man. As for the other team, his exchange with G-man seems genuine, so I doubt he's on that team. Maybe he's an independent who doesn't care as much who wins and is laying low to not get NK again.
I don't see why both of you are seeing Timmer as such a civ. I agree that he did seem that way in the early stages, but he hasn't really been very helpful lately. Maybe it's real life, but I need a whole lot more to put him as most likely civ.
I think MM and Bass are not bad, but it's mostly based on gut feel.
Bubbles seems okay to me. Like I said before, she looks like an easy target. Her saying she's a civ again and that she would be better at catching baddies after she finally plays one, could be looked at as a reverse baddie psychology, but it felt genuine to me.
I'm not sure I agree with Golden on Cobalt. I was getting a civ read from him, but I need to look at his connections with Sig and g-man. I'm at work, so no time right now.
All the low or non posters are null for me. I hate them
Why play in the first place? If you're a civ, you're hurting us. If you're a baddie, you're a coward baddie. Nothing more to say on that. RL comes first, and if it happens on rare occasions, it's okay. Life happens. But some players do it every game.
But I feel bad for you knowing that every time you put so much into being a civ, you end up losing late in the game. This is Flash all over. The annoying part is, we did take out all the active mafia players. It's hard to judge players who substitute a non active player so late in the game. In my opinion, the Flash win was more impressive.
I forgive you 
I never do after I die, but for some reason, this game stuck to me. Maybe it's because I'm on a mafia break 
Maybe it was done just to cause chaos