The Syndicate

Golden wrote:The game loses half a star because Diiny killed me!

Otherwise it was essentially perfect.

I echo that. How did you pick your kills Diiny?

Wow, congrats to the civvies. Great game everyone! Rico, I'm proud of you. I only had one BTSC as "don't worry about the government" but I'm happy it was you. I think you had an amazing game.
JJJ, I love how you put everything into the game. It's really impressive (though a little scary

), and MM, after losing too many games in the last minute, I'm glad you finally got the win you deserved

I think the baddies did one hell of a job, there were points in the game when those of us talking in the chatzie thought it was a done deal and there was no way the civvies could win this, so props to all the baddies.

Great game MP and Sloonei

Epignosis wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Massive props/thanks to Epignosis, who's legacy was a massive impact after his death.
Thank you 3J. The sheer amount of effort you can squeeze into a task such as this baffles me even after having witnessed it before. I really don't know how you do it.

And I'd like to point out to k4j and FZ., who suspected me early on because I was quiet, that sometimes...just sometimes...a person stays out of the way because he has an awesome role that like, skips night kills altogether.

Haha, well that wasn't the only bad suspicion I've had lately

At least I came around later on and we both agreed that Russ was bad.

And you crazy people need to get a life instead of posting obsessively and being proud when you beat others :P

Bye. Thanks for the game MP and Sloonei

Whoa, what the hell happened after I went to sleep, and how did Bea end up dying?

Can I just say how much I hate the fact that I can never be here when the day ends

Remind me to only join games hosted by non Americans.

Going to catch up.

I'm off to bed. Just in case people miss this in the sea of posts, here's my reason for voting Russ.

FZ. wrote:
sig wrote:What is the argument for a Russ lynch?

linki: I'm reading his post and waiting for one about me :P

Can't speak for the rest, but these are my reasons:

FZ. wrote: The part where you mentioned Russ brings me back to my theory that the person to gain the most from framing you (if you were in fact framed) with K4J's death is Russ. Other than K4J and I, he was the only one I can remember that said you were suspicious, and then you came after him for the "deliberately misinterpreting" comment and ended up voting for him. So by killing K4J, he would make you look even worse, and maybe get you to back off from him. I just can't think of a reason that someone would choose K4J out of all people in the game, when he was only voicing suspicion of you, and no one has interacted with him in a while.

FZ. wrote:In continuation of my theory of Russ being scum:

Russ and LC were the last to vote. Before that, LC had already 7 votes, and Bcornett had 5 votes. This means that if LC voted BC, it would tie (due to his 3 votes), and no matter who died, we would know that one of the BC voters was Flowers. If Russ is bad, he could have voted for BC with LC which would make BC die, ending in the same result- we learn that Flower is in the BC voters, and making Russ look really bad for putting that vote at the end.
So at that point, LC was going down no matter what. The smartest option was for Russ to vote LC and LC to vote BC, giving both 8 votes. In case Bcornett lost that tie, they got a civvie lynched and LC has to deal with the results, as well as the rest of the voters. It still takes time to figure out who is Flower. In case LC lost that tie, like he did, Russ still comes out looking great.

Unless I counted wrong, anyone care to join me on a Russ lynch?

I hope we get a baddie whichever way this goes. But at the risk of ending up defending another baddie, I still think Golden is not bad. No idea about Sorsha, but I didn't get a bad feeling from her either.

Wilgy, the way I see it LC had two options: 1. vote bcornett and reveal that one out of the four you mentioned is Flower, 2. Take the chance that he might die, but might not, and the flower role is revealed. If he lives, he's back to the first option. If he dies, his role is revealed and Russ comes out looking very good.

In the long run, the second option seems better to me because LC was on a verge of a lynch that day, he's the focus of the game and there's not much hope for him. Yet Russ can run miles from that point.

By the way, I'm not ruling out bcornett being bad, but I guess they had better options than that.

Matt F wrote:RBZ asked for my comments on Russ and a possible Russ lynch.

Long Con's role was pretty important. He had the ability to add two extra votes to any player from the opposite forum. Though it is possible to bus your teammate (I've done it myself more then once), I see Long Con's role power as very important, and I don't see a teamie voting him off like that. His power was way too important. I'm sure when MP revealed it was LC who was lynched, the baddies were PISSED because they just lost LC's power.

I just don't see it.

I really think a Sorsha lynch will prove to be valuable, whatever she flips. But I'm sold on her being Mafia.

Btw, back to Roxy, if you ever get your way and I'm lynched, and I'm proven to be civilian, I sure hope everyone looks at your tunnel towards me, and how you've been able to avoid voting for anyone else because of that.

What are your thoughts on Sorsha, Roxy? Civvie or Mafia?

I wanted to go into Golden a little bit. Golden, I don't know what you're doing. If you are civvie, stop asking people to lynch you. I find it highly suspect that you and Long Con both voted for bcornett after Russ placed the final vote on LC, and now suddenly, you are doing some crazy stuff. Let me ask you a question, if you get lynched, will you die? If the answer is "No", then stop asking us to waste a lynch day on you when we could be looking for actual scum. If your answer is "yes", then stop asking us to lynch you if you are really civilian. Please.

But if all votes were already made, and all that could change were the baddies' votes, what would you do in their place? I don't think Golden is bad because voting with LC for bcornett would make them look awful. So I think Golden and JJJ are both civvies that put the mafia in a very bad condition, and they had to decide what was there best strategy given the situation.

linki: Wilgy, I don't follow. What does the teams have to do with anything? Sorry if it's obvious and I'm not getting it

DrWilgy wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:While re-reading a bit I realized I forgot to comment on this:
Strawhenge wrote:Okay, back in it. Also this is the first time since the game started that I'm actually listening to Talking Heads. Like, IRL. Remain In Light at the moment. More Songs About Buildings and Food is next. Man, this band... Regrettably I always seem to forget how damn fuckin' cool they are. Even the overplayed hits like 'Once In a Lifetime' and 'Psycho Killer' are so good. Dang. Sorry, had to get RYM there for a second. Oh wait, what am I talking about. People don't praise music on RYM.
I'm in the same boat as you here, it's been forever since I last listened to Talking Heads and this game made me rediscover my love for them. Fear of Music has been on repeat for me. And LOL at the underlined part, that observation is sadly too true.

Back on topic, I'm curious what Wilgy has to say about this incoming Russ bandwagon.
It's dumb. Russ's vote was the one that lynched LC.

I would like more info before we try to lynch the people's champion.

I am unsure about the lynch today. I need to separate and balance what is the logical solution and what is emotional solution in my head.

If Russ voted anywhere else, Bcornet would have been lynched and everyone would know the baddie is within those voters. He couldn't afford to vote bcornett himself, because that would get him the eye even more. So if they talked to one another, that would be the best scenario, just like you're looking at it now. Russ saved the day.

sig wrote:What is the argument for a Russ lynch?

linki: I'm reading his post and waiting for one about me :P

Can't speak for the rest, but these are my reasons:

FZ. wrote: The part where you mentioned Russ brings me back to my theory that the person to gain the most from framing you (if you were in fact framed) with K4J's death is Russ. Other than K4J and I, he was the only one I can remember that said you were suspicious, and then you came after him for the "deliberately misinterpreting" comment and ended up voting for him. So by killing K4J, he would make you look even worse, and maybe get you to back off from him. I just can't think of a reason that someone would choose K4J out of all people in the game, when he was only voicing suspicion of you, and no one has interacted with him in a while.

FZ. wrote:In continuation of my theory of Russ being scum:

Russ and LC were the last to vote. Before that, LC had already 7 votes, and Bcornett had 5 votes. This means that if LC voted BC, it would tie (due to his 3 votes), and no matter who died, we would know that one of the BC voters was Flowers. If Russ is bad, he could have voted for BC with LC which would make BC die, ending in the same result- we learn that Flower is in the BC voters, and making Russ look really bad for putting that vote at the end.
So at that point, LC was going down no matter what. The smartest option was for Russ to vote LC and LC to vote BC, giving both 8 votes. In case Bcornett lost that tie, they got a civvie lynched and LC has to deal with the results, as well as the rest of the voters. It still takes time to figure out who is Flower. In case LC lost that tie, like he did, Russ still comes out looking great.

Unless I counted wrong, anyone care to join me on a Russ lynch?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:If you don't want to read my long posts (anyone), I always leave my final conclusion at the bottom. It's like a sentence.

I understand your reasons, it's just hard for me to read. And thanks, I'll look at the end of your posts

linki: zebra, did you see the post where I talk about K4J's kill? That was a very weird choice for a NK.

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:While re-reading a bit I realized I forgot to comment on this:
Strawhenge wrote:Okay, back in it. Also this is the first time since the game started that I'm actually listening to Talking Heads. Like, IRL. Remain In Light at the moment. More Songs About Buildings and Food is next. Man, this band... Regrettably I always seem to forget how damn fuckin' cool they are. Even the overplayed hits like 'Once In a Lifetime' and 'Psycho Killer' are so good. Dang. Sorry, had to get RYM there for a second. Oh wait, what am I talking about. People don't praise music on RYM.
I'm in the same boat as you here, it's been forever since I last listened to Talking Heads and this game made me rediscover my love for them. Fear of Music has been on repeat for me. And LOL at the underlined part, that observation is sadly too true.

Back on topic, I'm curious what Wilgy has to say about this incoming Russ bandwagon.

He already said my theory is bad.

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:I would say that analysis makes espers look significantly worse.

If you mean his vote, I agree. Assuming I'm right about Russ, and the mafia went with what I think they did, then another mafia member would spread his vote elsewhere. He voted llama after LC voted bcornett, and either way, that's a cop out vote.

linki: Will reply after

Is anyone really reading JJJ's posts? If so, I applaud you. No offense, but I can't read those novel long posts. I'd much rather you tell me what you think of each player and why. But I guess you really don't care what I prefer :P Just trying to explain why I'm not replying to those posts.

linki: Thanks Bullzeye...and Epi. I'm starting to think I was really wrong about you, and though I'm the last person who should apologize to you :P I do.

I would really like to hear people's on my theory regarding Russ.

Bullzeye wrote:That's basically what I was asking because I was feeling too lazy to check for myself :P

Oh, I don't know. I'm lazy too. But add that to my previous post about Russ and this seems rather plausible.

Bullzeye wrote:
FZ. wrote:In continuation of my theory of Russ being scum:

Russ and LC were the last to vote. Before that, LC had already 7 votes, and Bcornett had 5 votes. This means that if LC voted BC, it would tie (due to his 3 votes), and no matter who died, we would know that one of the BC voters was Flowers. If Russ is bad, he could have voted for BC with LC which would make BC die, ending in the same result- we learn that Flower is in the BC voters, and making Russ look really bad for putting that vote at the end.
So at that point, LC was going down no matter what. The smartest option was for Russ to vote LC and LC to vote BC, giving both 8 votes. In case Bcornett lost that tie, they got a civvie lynched and LC has to deal with the results, as well as the rest of the voters. It still takes time to figure out who is Flower. In case LC lost that tie, like he did, Russ still comes out looking great.

Unless I counted wrong, anyone care to join me on a Russ lynch?
My only real question: Is the highlighted statement the only conclusion we could've drawn from a BC lynch in a scenario where Russ did vote with LC?

BC ends up lynched when he has less votes. Is there anything else in the roles?

Golden wrote:Anyway, I doubt Il'l have a chance to be back before the lynch. I'd vote myself if I could, but that would be heinous rule breaking deserving of punishment, so I'm sticking with it on JJJ. I don't think Sorsha is the right person to lynch.

Good luck everyone - I'm really hoping that I'll discover you have listened to me, but if you lynch someone else then good luck on that one.

@JJJ - oh, really, you think I haven't considered a disastrous impact of my own lynch? What would that be?

@Bullz - I don't think refusing to hear other civilians is a townie thing to do.

If you're still here, I'm so behind. What the hell is going on?

In continuation of my theory of Russ being scum:

Russ and LC were the last to vote. Before that, LC had already 7 votes, and Bcornett had 5 votes. This means that if LC voted BC, it would tie (due to his 3 votes), and no matter who died, we would know that one of the BC voters was Flowers. If Russ is bad, he could have voted for BC with LC which would make BC die, ending in the same result- we learn that Flower is in the BC voters, and making Russ look really bad for putting that vote at the end.
So at that point, LC was going down no matter what. The smartest option was for Russ to vote LC and LC to vote BC, giving both 8 votes. In case Bcornett lost that tie, they got a civvie lynched and LC has to deal with the results, as well as the rest of the voters. It still takes time to figure out who is Flower. In case LC lost that tie, like he did, Russ still comes out looking great.

Unless I counted wrong, anyone care to join me on a Russ lynch?

Epignosis wrote:These are the people LC talked about:

Voted Choutas and reywaS for CEO.

His second post names me in a point of clarification.

He thanks Sorsha and Roxy for the CEO vote.

He congratulates 3J and Wilgy.

Then this, which we are later told is a ruse:

Long Con wrote:Bea has opinions about who is Civvie, but none about who is bad. A Mafia member knows every Civvie out there, so can proclaim their trust with confidence. I think bea is Mafia, and I'm going to put my vote on her for now.

*votes bea*
There are multiple people here who have opinions about who is good but none about who is bad. Since we know this post is a ruse, then why did Long Con choose bea? Notice he didn't make a strong case on her.

bea's reply is thus:

Long Con wrote:
bea wrote:
Long Con wrote:Bea has opinions about who is Civvie, but none about who is bad. A Mafia member knows every Civvie out there, so can proclaim their trust with confidence. I think bea is Mafia, and I'm going to put my vote on her for now.

*votes bea*
Srrsly? Lamest day 1 vote ever LC. I haven't stated at all who I think is civ with confidence. My whole argument is I don't know yet who is or isn't . It's like you aren't even reading my posts....

I expect better from you tbh.
If you say so. My vote is staying where it is for now.
++++

Then there's a soft suspicion of Roxy. Doesn't think me or JJJ voted together (or Wilgy) as mafia.

He gives a big suspicion of bea, but it doesn't make sense to me.

Sig is a little suspicious.

Defends Russ's "I have to read before I post"

Tell rundontwalk: "You sure can, in this poll at least. Just bold it in the thread as well."

"Liked" a post by Ricochet against bcornett24.

Corrects sig's grammar and says "our explanation as to why you would be going back over your posts makes a lot of sense to me."

Tells 3J he forgot to bold his vote in the thread.

Comments on FZ.'s opinion that "quiet Epi is never good" and pushes her on it while at the same time raising his hand. To me this indicates FZ. is good.

Gets pissed at Rbzmncaeaei for accusing him of not reading the thread. LC mentions real life responsibilities. Rbz apologizes and LC says not to worry about it.

++++

I'm going to stop here to take a break.

This is funny:

Long Con wrote:
sig wrote:First thing first what is an ISO post?

On Diiny he does seem to be being to aggressive, tone reading his posts I don't like them and would consider voting for him this phase. As well as the way he has targeted Roxy, out of the two I'm reading Diiny as scum more so then Roxy.

Jay's responses to Diiny was interesting it seems like he is trying to offer Diiny a way out of his behavior without directly doing so. This could just be because he thinks he is a strong civilian player and trying to help a fellow forum member, however if one were to flip mafia I would be inclined to think the other is as well.

I agree with Bea sentiment to not lynch Roxy based on random posting.
I dislike Long Con's lynch vote.

linki: To Long Con I'm just the "other guy" it seems. If I was the suspicious type I would say he used this wording on purpose hoping someone would pick up on it and see it as an attempt by Long Con to distance himself from me. Which would lead players to become suspicious and eventually lynch me. Good thing I'm not the suspicious type he probably just forgot my name.
Sorry, sig, I just really couldn't remember who the third player involved was. I think it's because your name is so short and lowercase, maybe. Let's not have distance. *offers hug*

I'll go back and let you know what I saw in bea's posts.

The part where you mentioned Russ brings me back to my theory that the person to gain the most from framing you (if you were in fact framed) with K4J's death is Russ. Other than K4J and I, he was the only one I can remember that said you were suspicious, and then you came after him for the "deliberately misinterpreting" comment and ended up voting for him. So by killing K4J, he would make you look even worse, and maybe get you to back off from him. I just can't think of a reason that someone would choose K4J out of all people in the game, when he was only voicing suspicion of you, and no one has interacted with him in a while.

I'm sorry for not being around this day, but we had a medical emergency in the family.

I only have a few minutes before I have to leave, and maybe I'll have a few more minutes in a few hours or so, and I'm 10 pages behind (and 4 more before the lynch) which I won't have time to read today. Can anyone please tell me how Golden got all those votes? Was there something I missed. Last thing I remember is a feud between Golden and JJJ, with Golden accusing JJJ of being bad for reasons I didn't read because I had no time. What happened since then?

Is there a post that analysed the votes? How did the fact that LC had 3 votes to use influenced the later votes on him?

Oops. I missed it. I don't think I'm going to have much time to read what's been going on since I left for bed, and then there will be pages more to read by the time I get back. Not good.

Is it day again?

I'm going to go eat my hat in the corner. What a result!! Nice job people. Sorry I was trying to save him

Just goes to show that the more you play with a person, the less you retain your basic instincts of sniffing out his bullshit, which is my explanation to why those who didn't know LC were better judges than those who do know him.

And I was spending way too much time thinking about flower's strategy, hence the questions about what would happen in case of a tie. Time that I'll never get back

I guess I don't have to worry about that any more.

I just saw the result because I don't have time, and you all just posted like crazy when I was asleep. I'll try to catch up next day, because I won't be here until Saturday evening, but for the sake of my sanity, try to get some rest (i.e., slow down with the posts) during the night :P

Epignosis wrote:
FZ. wrote:linki: Russ, yeah, we should think about Epi next day if he doesn't step up his game. And if you fight hard enough, you might end up not getting lynched and getting night killed instead :P
Sorry, not gonna happen right now.

Okay then. By the way, what's your opinion of Eloh? Are you still suspicious of Russ? How about Rico? Has anything changed?

Going to bed. Good night

screw it. I'm falling asleep. Yes, I'm choosing to trust someone I believe is a civvie (golden and jjj) and vote for someone who has done nothing to make me believe he is a civ.

linki: Yes Diiny, I would. Is it that much to ask?

Anyway, I hope I don't regret it:
bcornett 24

linki: Russ, yeah, we should think about Epi next day if he doesn't step up his game. And if you fight hard enough, you might end up not getting lynched and getting night killed instead :P

Diiny wrote:
FZ. wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:Ok, just now catching up. (I think I did alright on my exams) Voting LC for now, not reading the interactions with bea to be genuine. Still really far behind, though.
This sounds like a baddie who acts like he's constantly behind, so he can't really be accounted for his behaviour.
How would someone who is genuinely behind sound?

Better yet, how would a town wilgy who was genuinely behind sound?

I don't know, but I've done this as scum. If you're behind, you can never really engage in present conversation. You can always say that you're still behind, so your thoughts might change later, giving you an excuse for your vote. As a civ, you try to engage both in catching up and in live conversations to make sure you don't miss anything

I would go with Eloh. She's not trying. She can look for laughs somewhere else. Sometimes I think that players that seem like baddies but are trying hard should get more opportunities to stay in the game than players who don't care. And like I said, I'm not sure this isn't an attempt to look that way by Eloh. But she isn't going to get enough votes to save LC. So I have to vote somewhere that would be helpful, or at least try.

linki: Mac, I think that when he's a civ, he doesn't care how bad he looks. Most of us don't, so he's more likely to appear bad

linki: Russ, not whatever Golden says to vote, but Bcornett. I have read his posts. Nothing there screams civvie to me. I'm null on him, while I feel good about LC. I'd rather go with that.

Russtifinko wrote:Ugh, I'm on time to vote but feel like I may be late to the party. This was a very good point.

FZ. wrote:How is it, that not one regular syndicater voted for LC? How is it, that none of the Rym players don't take that into consideration? Are we missing something here?
I should say that I have suspected LC as recently as my last post, though, and I'm a Syndicater, so it's not 100% true. Everyone seems to have ignored my posts, though, as I don't think anyone answered a question I asked...

Anyway, the fact that no other TSers are suspecting LC makes me feel a bit better about him. However, I have absolutely no read whatsoever on bcornett, and I think voting seaside or Macdougall at this point seems like a real bad idea. So I don't see a ton of opportunity to influence the lynch with my vote.

Also, I know Golden is a SuperStar Civ, but it's weird to me that at least 2 people (bea and motel room) are willing to just accept his suspicion at face value and go that way.

Actually, I'm considering it too. Out of the options I have, this seems like the one I could live with. Maybe because I don't know him...

lots and lots of linki

Epignosis wrote:Again, five votes from people who don't know Long Con and aren't from around here.

This is starting to look cliquish.

Something we agree on.

motel room wrote:^ talking about Long Con not Wilgy here, apart from that first sentence

what do you think about bcornett? Do you agree with Golden and JJJ?

linki: So is he familiar with LC's game?

motel room wrote:
FZ. wrote:How is it, that not one regular syndicater voted for LC? How is it, that none of the Rym players don't take that into consideration? Are we missing something here?
Is Wilgy not a regular?

I think he's suss but that translated into a vote from me because he kept being mentioned as suss back on day 1 but he was never a lynch contender, which is a thing that I feel scum can then point back at their posts and say "i thought he was suss, see". Anyway I had a vote on him for a good portion of today and he hasn't flinched or questioned it or brought it up, not sure what that says. And now he's lead lynchguy, there's even an unexplained vote from Choutas on him (or well, I havent seen him mention his vote in thread).

So like, I dunno are we missing something here?

I don't know Wilgy. I thought he was a Rymer. If he is from TS, he hasn't been a regular since I've started to play, so either he's new, or he's been a regular before I registered and then disappeared

I need to go to bed. Since I don't see LC as bad at this point, I don't want him to be lynched (and if I'm wrong, I'll kill him :P ), so since neither Epi nor Eloh seem to be garnering that much attention, I guess I'll have to put my vote somewhere else.

Will probably go with bcornett unless something really interesting happens before I go. It's not a good vote because I can't really read him, but I'm putting trust in people that hopefully can read him

Roxy, what is your opinion of the players who now have more than one vote? Can you see yourself voting for someone else, or will you leave your vote no matter what? Can you explain again why you're voting for Matt F?

Out of all the people who currently have at least 2 votes, I'm considering voting bcornett, because I actually find myself trusting both golden and JJJ, unlike some other of the voters out there. I wonder if they're seeing something that I don't recognize because I don't know him

How is it, that not one regular syndicater voted for LC? How is it, that none of the Rym players don't take that into consideration? Are we missing something here?

DrWilgy wrote:Ok, just now catching up. (I think I did alright on my exams) Voting LC for now, not reading the interactions with bea to be genuine. Still really far behind, though.

This sounds like a baddie who acts like he's constantly behind, so he can't really be accounted for his behaviour.

Bea, thanks for that list. It made me feel a lot better about you.

Ricochet wrote:
FZ. wrote:Can anyone summarize their suspicion of bcornett please, assuming you are suspicious of him

Ricochet wrote:b24 - he made an RVS with no roots to the actual game, then came back saying this vote served its purpose to generate content, which to me still makes not much sense (the most content it actually generated was suspicions on him voting this way; the rest of the game's content cannot be said to have been achieved by this vote of his). Next couple of posts are reading Roxy's banter ways genuine (and familiar, as a style itself) and slightly insisting on questioning a few players who suspect Diiny. He dismisses Diiny's vote on him for being inactive by saying he's one of many, at that stage, to have contributed in low amount. Switches to voting BWT for him voting bea's disbelief in Day 1 suspicions generating something consistent. Frankly, his posts so far don't read like any clear input and it doesn't make me trust him.

Thanks

Devin the Omniscient wrote:MP likes death.

But how does he decide? Does he flip a coin?

Anyone know what's MP's strategy when there's a tie in the lynch?

Golden wrote:
FZ. wrote:Can anyone summarize their suspicion of bcornett please, assuming you are suspicious of him
He reminds me of baddie Brian from RYM87. That's basically it.

What did he do that was different from his civvie game?

Can anyone summarize their suspicion of bcornett please, assuming you are suspicious of him

Ricochet wrote:
FZ. wrote:Rico, you're such a teacher's pet with that table. I'm kind of afraid to make this confession, but I don't know any TH songs (at least not that I know of)

But it's interesting that you say you feel good about me when I said the same.

I find it funny that all the votes for LC are coming from the Rym players, and Sig. Where is Sig from?

I personally feel that LC tries to be more "helpful" when he's bad, which makes people inclined to not put him want to trust him. I don't feel like he's doing it this game. He's one of the best baddies I've seen on this site. The memories of Flash mafia still hurt... So obviously, he can fool everyone. But I'm getting a more snarky feeling from him, like he's not trying to please anyone.
I wasn't returning any nicety (of course, I'm only glad to hear my replies make you feel better about me ), if it gives you that impression. I worked on this all day. Also, my general impression of you goes over the entire period of the game and in every aspect. I had gripes before with you seemingly demanding me to get into top hunting shape as early as an actual day into the game or so and I'd say that slight criticism still turns up in my read of you.

I expect everyone to go into top hunting shape on day one. They can be wrong, but at least feel like they're really trying

I guess I won't be getting any answers from Bea or Eloh before I go to sleep

linki:

TH!!!! I miss you

Sorry, going to try the last paragraph again:

I personally feel that LC tries to be more "helpful" when he's bad, which makes people want to trust him. I don't feel like he's doing it this game. He's one of the best baddies I've seen on this site. The memories of Flash mafia still hurt... So obviously, he can fool everyone. But I'm getting a more snarky feeling from him, like he's not trying to please anyone.

Rico, you're such a teacher's pet with that table. I'm kind of afraid to make this confession, but I don't know any TH songs (at least not that I know of)

But it's interesting that you say you feel good about me when I said the same.

I find it funny that all the votes for LC are coming from the Rym players, and Sig. Where is Sig from?

I personally feel that LC tries to be more "helpful" when he's bad, which makes people inclined to not put him want to trust him. I don't feel like he's doing it this game. He's one of the best baddies I've seen on this site. The memories of Flash mafia still hurt... So obviously, he can fool everyone. But I'm getting a more snarky feeling from him, like he's not trying to please anyone.

I think I'd rather we leave llama alone and go with someone else. I'm actually feeling better about Rico, so won't be going that way either.

I think my top options at the moment are: Epi and Eloh. I'd like to see a fight between the two

Rbzmncaeaei wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Seaside is either scum or a liability that we can't take further into the game.
When I placed my vote for him, I was leaning towards the latter, because I would rather vote for a civilian who's hurting the civilian's progress than someone who migggght be scum but then flips town and sets us even further back. However, if seaside has chosen the more productive path like recent posts would imply, then I can no longer keep my vote on him.

Epignosis is defending more than scumhunting, which is unlike him. Even more unlike him, his scumhunting is super weak so far. At first I was reluctant to give the suspicions towards him much credit, but that was because I assumed his defend:attack ratio would improve. In actuality, it's gotten significantly worse.

What do you think about his two "R suspicions" (Rico and Russ)?

MacDougall wrote:I am tied up so I will probably only have time to say this. I am voting for thellama. Post history is whack. Vibey as feck. Am on phone and busy so can't promise I can elaborate much more. Take a look at llama and tell me what you think guys and gals.

llama is known as the guy who gets obsessed with a person and won't quiet down until he does it. He's acting very different, but I think he knows we expect him to do it. I would be very disappointed if he turns out to be a baddie that just isn't trying enough. On the other hand, he tends to get lynched very early as a civvie. This feels like he's trying to lay low, but a little too low if you ask me. I'm really not sure what to make of it yet.

Elohcin wrote:
Matt F wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Maybe we are just cooler than everyone else.

No, but seriously. Do you really think if we had BTSC that we would vote the same way? And, I think I was the first to vote too. I think you are grasping at straws here Matt. (Nice to have you back on the syndicated though I have fond memories of our BTSC together. Don;t ask me the name of the game, I never remember that sort of thing. But I remember having fun with you.)
Hi Elo. I forget the game, too, but I believe it was one of your first on TS, if I recall? Good times

Now, down to business...

1) Maybe you wouldn't vote together if you had btsc. But if Sorsha was mafia, would you put it past to her to intentionally vote the same three options as a Civ and/or possible indy? This way, if she were to be lynched, especially early in the game, people might look at the person she voted with?

2) Who are you looking at today? Rereading you, I see you voted Diiny on Day 1 because Mac made you laugh...?
1) Yes, that is actually a very good point. And you could be onto something there.

2) I did vote for Dinny b/c Mac was the only one to make me laugh the whole day. I promised at the beginning of the day that I would vote alongside the person that made me laugh most. Now, Mac did end up changing his vote after that and I was unaware of it until after the poll ended as I was away from the computer. I do not plan on keeping up with this trend, however I do think it is very important to have fun and laughter in a Mafia game and I do hope that at least one person will make me laugh today. Heard any good jokes lately?
As for who I find suspicious, it is difficult for me to tell. First of all, this is a full game and if you remember me, it takes a while for me to wrap my head around SO many players. Add unfamiliar personalities to the mix and I feel I am in information overload when I read the thread. It is my assumption that some of the baddies are lying low while others are quite vocal.

hmm....wow, I started this post hours ago, got busy, and never posted it Well, I will post it now and then catch up.

No offense here, but if you're only looking out for laughs and fun, why not read the jokes section. I thought mafia was about trying to find out who is lying or do the actual lying. If you're not engaged in the latter, how do you plan to go about finding baddies if you're in an overload when reading the thread? Do you expect it to get any better? When do you think it would be okay to expect actual suspicions from you?
This is something I've said before in regard to your posts, but even though I'm usually one of those who believe baddies wouldn't be that obvious in their laziness and lack of trying to find baddies, in your case, this smells like a deliberate attempt to look like you couldn't give a damn. I'm not liking your posts, but if you are a civvie, why not join the team effort to win the game?

linki: Hi Bullz

As much as I feel for your condition, I don't know if I can do that without putting my own perspective into that summary. Not sure it's a good thing

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