The Syndicate

Elo I will try to remember your civ game here! It's always fun to play with you.

Lol DrWilgy accidentally getting the flamethrower and fucking using it could have been the hero town deserved

poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:15 am So, do you want to say something @Turnip Head? killing me N2, rude vegetable is rude

Well done scum team ~

I respected you as an opponent, so I killed you

Yes there were lynches, there was also votes for the flamethrower. Mafia could have lynched themselves (say, if DH had torched me or INH out of 4 attempts) or town could have gained control of the flamethrower. It's just that neither of those things happened.

Mafia needed six mislynches with no mistakes, I'd say that's pretty fair. Like DH said if the consensus townreads had actually been town it would have been a different game.

That would have been cooler if I said it 4minutes earlier.

Pretty much a perfect game from DH

I started ass-reading DH around the time of the Elo lynch

I don't think it favored the baddies all that much. iNH and I got lucky to know find other so early, which helped us stay focused on lynching/killing humans.

Hell yeah nice job Things

I'm not sure they teach it in host school either

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:05 pm Vote for me I can't be wrong 4 times.

Ftfy

Give it to me gentlemen I'll handle this

I just want to go home

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:53 pm I am a thing.

I'm so happy 4 u

5 players left which means there's only two assimilated or the game would be over.

fingers crossed lol

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:38 pm
@Turnip Head

Same question. What’s the biggest difference between town you and scum you?

idk man. Scum-turnip is probably more reactive

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:28 pm
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:01 pm Hey Jack. Let's play a game.

What would you say the defining difference is between your civ and scum playing/posting strategies?
When I’m scum, I have a more detailed plan.

As town, I start with a bunch of null reads and I try to sort them. Player A feels town. Player B started a train on a scum player and tried hard to save a town player from lynch. Player C is not voting their scumreads. Player D is not interested in hunting. Player E says they suspect player D but they keep ultimately voting elsewhere when it really matters. Lynch the scumreads. Listen to the townreads and try to keep them from getting lynch. Hope Jay doesn’t go after me and knock me over before I really get going. Shitpost. As EOG appoaches, try to find w/w and w/t or t/t groups and do ISOs now that it’s worthwhile. Hope I’m right. Rely on charisma and effort to never be lynched.

When I’m scum, I try to replicate my town game. I’m more likely to selectively ignore shit about ne, though I still do this as town. I’m more likely to take a strong stance on competing t/t wagons. But there’s always a plan. A list of most to least mislynchable townies. A list of townies I can ignore/buddy vs ones I must kill. Reasons to mislynch. Reasons to defend. An internal calculation of when I must bus and when I cannot. At EOD, there’s an order. Mislynch A, kill B, mislynch C, kill D.

As scum, I can have a plan because I know exactly what has to be done. As town, I can be wrong which means going back to the drawing board.

Does this help? I kinda just like talking about myself regardless.

hmmmz

Ummm I guess you're right.

Are we all sort of in agreement about DDL? My PoE lands on him but I haven't delved into his ISO

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:10 pm And then there’s 5 more posts that are basically “Jack is probably mafia” which kinda undermines the whole “townie mindset” thing.

TH, respond to me kk.

Thank you for the mountain of notifications

And thanks for taking the time to case me instead of "I can't read TH so I won't even bother", which is what I usually get tbh.

I admit I've tunneled you the last few phases but part of that is because I wanted to see you interact with my suspicion of you, which you hadn't really done. My read on you hasn't developed much because you haven't developed much. I've seen you town hard in a few games and this hadn't looked much like that to me.

I think you me and the doc are the only humies left. So torching Jack, DDL or INH should do the trick, preferably Jack

Good luck today Dharma, no pressure

There's 7 of us

Let's not give jack the flamethrower please

Welp we're boned

Not like this lord

Mmhmm

I'm about to go out like a punk

Come ooooon let's get jack. his turn at the flamethrower was uninspiring and I'm pretty sure I suspected him before that even happened

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:34 pm If I sit back and don;t suspect anyone....Eloh is bad. If I come up with reasons to suspect someone...Eloh is tunneling. GAH! I'm done. Have a fun time losing civs 'cause that's where you're headed. Mafia has become a total shit show over the past year and I am done.

nvm I'm gonna die

So then what're you thinking m'boy. I seem to be alone in suspecting Jack. Do you have a decisive read on Elohcin or INH?

um okay. okay.

DH I'm sweatin' a little. I didn't think you actually suspected me tbh, do you just want to watch me squirm?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:17 pm Lots to consider.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:43 pm Voted for TH so I don't get modkilled. I'll be back later

But that's me

Reason I'm voting Jack is cuz I felt like he half-assed yesterday by his own standards. I watched Jack hunt speedchuck down like a bloodhound in Mega Man. To see him sort of nonchalantly dispatch him here rings false. There was fire but no fuel

I don't think Elo would keep poking DH like this if she were bad. Doesn't make much sense to spend your time attacking the one guy who's unlynchable, unless you really mean it

Voting jack for now but I'ma consider DH's analysis in the morning

He's got the torch

[mention]Elohcin[/mention] correct

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:50 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:46 pm
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Colin -
I dunno if this read list is a joke or not since it lists everyone as "Good" technically, but if its not, voting to give the flamethrower to Eloh (a middle read of his) over someone higher on the list is noteworthy. As is his post here Parroting Eloh's claim/theory that a "consensus" townread is fooling the thread. He names me, Speed and Jack as the possibles, but as Speed has pointed out, he and Jack aren't really "consensus" town-reads, if town-reads at all, and he and Jack haven't really pushed anything or tried to fool anyone. He also originally posited that the non-kill was an inactive.

His "who would you kill" exercise is also something to look at. He said he'd hold off on answering and didn't.

I've never really felt great about town-reading Colin and his recent stuff hasn't nudged me out of that mentality.

DDL -
Voted to give Quin the flamethrower, townreading Quin based on his recent uptick in activity it looks like. He has either town-read or "un-readable" status on most players, with Sprityo sitting at "too-scummy-to-be-scum" status and being the closest thing DDL has to a suspect ATM. Stepping on eggshells, me no like.

Eloh -
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, I think Eloh's most recent cases (Me and INH) hold no water. She was very vague about her suspicion of me ("how you're playing. POE") which felt like she was just using buzzwords to make it seem more than it was. "Process of elimination" in particular. Like, Good luck using POE in this set up lol. And the INH thing falls apart at close inspection. She says she didn't expect him to be this active (The only reason he's not the least active poster is because Wilgy signed up, told himself not to forget to play this game, and then I guess got invited to travel through Space and Time with the Doctor) Then she called out the "content" of his posts, and said here that INH is "serious at looking civ" which I highlighted earlier but will comment on now. Why does he have to be trying to "look" civ? Can't he just be...civ? Eloh's framing of the question there might have let slip the mask a bit.

INH -
Funnily enough since his decent case on Colin which was posted last Sunday, INH hasn't really done much "content"-wise. Sticking to his guns RE: Colin, asking for more from TH and questioning Chuck on his Quin townread. I don't think INH is bad at this point. Though if Eloh's criticism of his game starts to color his activity/presence, I'll revisit a read on him.

Jack -
A moot point for today but I'm still null on Jack, which isn't great 4 Days into a game I guess, but not much I can do about it for now. We'll see how he handles the spotlight, if he puts out any reads, gives any directions, goes with the flow, etc.

Quin -
Moderate uptick in activity. Still not feeling great about his early game. Wanna see him put some beef in the broth before I move the needle out of the red on this boi. He's being town-read by people though which I will consider, but I can't shake what I can't shake. Ehm.

Chuck -
Again rough that there's not much to update on this read but them's the brakes. Wish he'd expand on his "colorless rainbow". Moving on.

TH: -
Reading back it seems like he was dead-set on Sprityo for a long time there whilst he had the Sizzler. Could be because nobody gave him anything else to work with, but it could be he just saw Sprityo as an easy out and didn't want to look at anyone else, whether he was asked/shown or not. Shifting TH slightly into the red for D3.

I've been considering for a hot minute how in-thread behavior would shift or change or make itself evidence if/once infected targeted each other and from my reads I think I see two likely pairs

- DDL/Quin
- Colin/Eloh

DDL has been soft-as-a-baby-bottom defending/townreading Quin for a hot minute. And Colin's lockstep with Eloh's "we been fooled" play skews a bit when you look at his read list there.
My best guess scenario for who might know who RE: Assimilated.

Oooh I somehow missed this post the first time around. Lemme take some time to unpack this yumminess

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:37 pm Hey BTW feels like I been on Eloh/Colin/DDL/Quin for ages fam.

What sorta connections are you seeing here

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:32 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:51 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:48 pm Feel better about Jack after that. Thinking INH next.
Then vote for moi
Why should I trust you?

Because I'm your friend and I've never ever betrayed you, not a once, and everyone deserves a second chance, and, well, it's just the right thing to do

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:48 pm Feel better about Jack after that. Thinking INH next.

Then vote for moi

That said, I think it would be a good idea to utilize some misdirection in who we are voting for from now on, lest someone gets Nova'd before they get a chance to wield the flames.

Don't forget to vote for your friendly neighborhood Turnip Head tonight. I think I led the most successful lynch, despite the result, as there was a clear majority against my target and I was open about my intentions throughout the day. You can be sure I'll fight hard in my second term to land us a better result.

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