The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Golden wrote:But I had my gameplan mapped out for a long time beforehand and I needed to stick to it. JJ, did you purchase a NK protect on the night I killed DDL?
I purchased one on the night Turnip Head was killed.

I tried purchasing one on the night Turnip Head was killed too, and learned that you couldn't sell a gun for $1 and buy an NK protection at the same time

I would have still been able to purchase it that night if the mafia hadn't destroyed one of my guns on a previous night. Well played there, baddies. I was hoping to get the last laugh though

My role checks were
N1 - JJJ
N2 - DDL
N3 - Roxy
N4 - Bass

I hinted to both JJJ and DDL in the thread that I knew their roles. Did either of you catch that?

MovingPictures07 wrote:I also said "TB was not Adam Smith" since I was fearing that my claim for role checker wouldn't be bought and they'd NK Turnip on N4 anyway, and I panicked a bit. I really just was trying to bait the NK in whatever way I could.

I knew that that's exactly what you were doing and it was much appreciated

The extra night let me confirm that Bass was bad. I thought I had enough resources to buy an NK protect that night, but I was foolishly mistaken as always :P

Damnit Golden. I knew there was something fishy about how quickly you latched onto my reads. You cheeky bastard!!! Well played sir.

omg this game

"It's cuz yo butt stank" is the greatest ending line of all time, but I thought rap #1 was overall more solid. The couplet that rhymed "diorama" and "llama" was particularly inspired.

omelette au gtfo

They're all waiting for a lynch post. Zombie take ova

Speaking of posting too much, MP is still trying to break the posting record even while he's dead.

Well yeah, he definitely posted too damn much, but that's just my fault for not killing him sooner lol lol :P

I have no problem with how Banks went after me in that game btw. I was totes bad and I didn't give him much to work with. I haven't been keeping up with the recent games though so I'm not sure what's happening there.

Cavs are fucked without Irving.

G-Man wrote:

Or both.

Like I said, I reread her from Day 0, something I had not done before. I tried to read with both lenses on, aether writing posts as a civ and aether writing as a baddie, and I think the case on her being bad, especially her conscientiousness of how a Bass flip will make her look, is pretty compelling.

I'll of course elaborate if I make it through the night.

I have reread acrosstheaether, and I encourage everyone to do the same. I think we should lynch her tomorrow.

Golden wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:The remaining baddie according to TH:

Simply too scummy for it to be true: G-Man
Plan B: aether or sanmateo
Tinfoil hat: Golden 2.0

That's where I'm at right now.
I seem to be everybody's favourite tinfoil hat baddie, and I can't help but wonder if it's down to what BWT has done before me? Which is one of those things, I suppose. But TH, if you can put your finger on specific things I might be able to respond to...

My own tinfoil hat baddie is DDL, and I don't think it requires that much tinfoil. But aether is front of my mind for tomorrow.

I'm not seriously considering it. For me it's the timing of BWT's replacement, it seems to coincide with the focus on BR and Roxy. Maybe the baddies thought they would need an active player to give them a chance in this game. Your contributions have been stellar, I like to think you're just a civvie that's on point.

DDL is cool in my book. I've liked his approach recently.

Damn son. Good work.

The remaining baddie according to TH:

Simply too scummy for it to be true: G-Man
Plan B: aether or sanmateo
Tinfoil hat: Golden 2.0

That's where I'm at right now.

G-Man wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'd have more posts if I wasn't dead.

It must be such a horrible burden to bear.

Bitchin'.

Early lynch post?

I'm not as worried as I was a minute ago.

Maybe.

I would ask that one kind individual who voted Bass and feels good about their vote reinforce it with a gun today, if they have one to spare.

This lynch is so getting switched to G-Man. Wonder what he'll flip.

G-Man wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Everyone who hasn't voted yet: remember to account for guns and butter.

What on earth does this mean G-Man

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Now if you have any questions please just ask.

I asked Bass a question soon after he said this, but he didn't answer it:

Turnip Head wrote:Bass why do you think TinyBubbles was killed Night 3?

We've since had the discussion about this NK without Bass's input, but the fact that he didn't chime in here makes me think he's guilty.

While all discussion today has been about Bass with a sprinkling of G-Man, this is Bass's only post in the past 24 hours.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:This is an important lynch if the mafia were getting the stuff they need for an extra kill they will have everything after this night phase. So if there are two mafia left after this lynch that could mean 3 kills.

He notes that the lynch will be important for us (quite an observation for him to make, tbh), but gives no thoughts on where to go with such an important vote.

The fact that he's not in here defending himself and trying to give us an alternative way for this lynch to go makes me think he's trying to hide. It's important to gauge reactions of players under pressure, and Bass is denying us that today. In his absence we're simply discussing him, and the longer we discuss his voting record and his words at their face value, the less inclined people will be to look his way.

Say what you will about G-Man, I agree he looks worse with every post lol, but at least he's putting up a defense and not just letting his votes do the talking, which is what I think Bass is doing.

For me, the thing with Bass is - and I guess the same could be said about G-Man - it's what he isn't saying, more than what he is saying, that makes me think he's bad. I think there would be more "meat" to his game, especially his opinion on Roxy, if he was a civvie this game. His contributions are bare bones, his opinions are all the right ones, and I think he's trying to coast through a talkative game.

I've said most of what I wanted to, and I've already voted for Bass. If the lynch goes G-Man's way I think that will be okay, but I personally feel more comfortable voting Bass first.

acrosstheaether wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:aether who are you thinking of voting for?
G-Man probably. I've mulled it over and still couldn't see why a mafia Bass would vote BR over me as I'm town. Much of the case on Bass relies on the notion of Bass and me being teammates.

Honestly if Bass flips mafia, I give up.

That's not the case for me. I think Bass and G-Man are teammates.

aether who are you thinking of voting for?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Such a hipster marmot.
Nooooo, don't use that word!

That's exactly what a hipster would say.

Such a hipster marmot.

Most of the peeps on the east coast are tucked into bed already.

linki: True story.

acrosstheaether wrote:Hang on how long until EoD from now? Are we close or are you just going to sleep? /australia

We're still like 19 hours away from EoD. It's about to be 10pm here /LA

Golden wrote:We must have done that so close to the same time, because when my poll came up it said "golden (9), Turnip Head (8)" instead of the other way around.

It's like that on my screen as well. Jinx! You owe me a Coke.

Golden wrote:As for leeroy, don't you know he was nerfed?

At least I have chicken.

Time's up let's do this

LEEROY JENKINS!!!!!

Solid analysis JJJ. In any case it makes me think Bubbles was killed because of her link to Bass, either to protect him or frame him. And since we know Roxy was a member of the team as well, and she was soft defending Bass (not like her hard defenses for Golden, Bubbles and splintsy), I have a hard time thinking the kill was meant to frame him.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:i have a big analysis post prepared for TinyBubbles regarding theories about her role. but i won't post it until something is cleared up with the hosts.

long story short: i don't see compelling evidence.

Fwiw I don't think Bubbles had a discovery role, but I think it's possible the baddies thought she did. Looking forward to your analysis in any case.

I'm in the same boat Golden.

This is happening.

We should not split this vote very much, as the baddies could have up to 8 night's worth of resources atm.

G-Man wrote:

G-Man, if you've been paying as much attention as you say you have, you'd know I've been trying to discuss the relevance of the TinyBubbles kill for a while. She abruptly voted for Bass (after abruptly voting for Elo) and was abruptly NK'd that Night. Do you think the baddies thought TB was a discovery role? Did they think she had learned Bass's role?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:G-Man is extremely conscious of the voting and suspicion trends regarding Bass.

Except when he forgot to talk about it re: his Day 1 vote

Day 1 abridged poll results wrote:Bass_the_Clever
5
JaggedJimmyJay (6), birdwithteeth11 (7), Sloonei (14), Golden (15), MovingPictures07 (17)
28%
Golden
7
Turnip Head (4), Metalmarsh89 (5), Dragon D. Luffy (10), Epignosis (11), Elohcin (12), G-Man (16), Bass_the_Clever (18)
39%

G-Man Day 4 Hindsight wrote:My Day 1 vote was utter shit. It was a 100% uninformed vote. I knew from see other people's posts that Epi usually gets taken out early and he certainly seems like a pretty rash (but probably loveable) guy. From what little I actually did skim, I thought MP was being a mini-JJJ but a little less objective. In the end I voted for Golden only because I had no read on Golden out of the three of them.

I forgot to say it at the time, but but thank you G-Man for simply taking me at my word re: that meta analysis I did on BR. You voted based on it right away, despite you saying multiple times in this game that you're bad at reading meta/people yourself, and despite us not having played a game with each other in years. Thank you for your complete faith in my case

sanmateo wrote:one thing that is bugging me is that mp was the main person who suspected fingersplints during the end of day 3/night 3 and as day 4 came around he dropped that case and then he died, although i think he hinted at having an important role in the middle of his breakdown about g-man. idk if i'm explaining myself correctly or if it even makes sense, tbh i still think fingersplints is suss bc of that non-vote for br

I'm looking forward to splintsy's current thoughts, I don't think we've heard from her yet this phase. I was thinking there was a good reason MP dropped his suspicion on her, and I've been feeling good about her lately, but I agree her Day 3 vote still stands out.

G-Man wrote:

If G-Man flips town, there is no concrete answer as to what that data will look like just yet. We would need to go back and research who maintained suspicion of G-Man, who applied the pressure and who just parroted it, who defended him, who benefited from attention on him, etc.

G-Man wrote:

Hardy har har, G-Man.

G-Man wrote:

Looks like you're pretty savvy with the thread's barometer there, G-Man. Can you quantify for me how aether has more suspicion on her than Bass? Talking about individual players' thoughts on both, here. You yourself came out strong against Bass suddenly today, but only now you seem to be moving back towards aether, who you've spoken less about. You're making it sound like the fact that players have suspected her continuously throughout the game is more reason to lynch her over the more specific pings about Bass.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:the biggest surprise of this game is sanmateo tolerating so many memes

Just saw G-Man's posts on my phone. I agree that he still looks bad.

I recall yesterday questioning the notion that Bass and G-Man would be mafia mates. Was that a thing? Please remind me why if so.

I don't remember why you were questioning it, but the Day 1 vote (and all their votes together, really) certainly puts some weight behind the theory that they're working together.

sanmateo wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Spoiler: show

everytime g-man actually talks he looks worse

Agreed. It all just reads like G-Man has some sort of agenda. Aether reads like she has no agenda.

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