The Syndicate

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

Reminds me of when I won Kill Bill Mafia by being Bill and getting killed.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Y'all use weird terms around here. :P

"Meta" is a staple of RYM vernacular. Where you say "no u", we say "omgus" (oh my god you suck). Where you say "civs with BTSC", we say "masons" (though the entire concept of BTSC is completely different here). I'd never even heard "BTSC" before coming to The Syndicate.

Our culture developed independently of the larger mafia community for sure. A lot of us got our start on LostPedia where no one had really played mafia before. I think "no u" was a catchphrase of a few players and it caught on because it's fun to say. I have no idea who came up with "BTSC"... I remember being confused by that one when I started playing. Rezzes are a byproduct of having so many power roles - the standard for games on LP was 30 roles, and almost all of them had a unique power. We like crazy games

It is interesting that we never really referred to a player's "meta" much. I think a lot of players including myself like to play differently in each game. I've certainly never played like I did in this one, and probably won't ever again.

DrWilgy wrote:Black Rock!!! Long Con!!! Can Team Celia's name be changed to "The guys who were only able to kill Ubzergois temporarily?" because that's all we accomplished... I think it's fitting!!!

I was thinking that DH tried to recruit me early on and failed. Is that true? Did you guys figure out who I was?

unfurl wrote:only nutella dn llama were the only baddies lynched

Llama will be the first to tell you that he was never successfully lynched

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm not going to lie, I'm feeling really burned right now. Seeing everything going on makes me realize I really never had a chance to win this game from the start. There were some balance issues here. But I did enjoy the game despite that. So thanks for your hard work BR and LC.

I know how you feel, I felt the same way as civvie team leader in Recruitment III. We knew who most of the baddies were and lynched a baddie almost every day, but it didn't matter because the Musketeers had access to the baddie chatrooms and had so much influence over how the game played out. It sucks when you play a strong game but come up just short.

I think the important thing with these games is that you play hard and have fun because it also takes a lot of luck to win Recruitment Mafia.

nutella wrote:Sorry TH, you'll probably never forgive me I really wonder how differently the game might have gone had I rezzed LoRab instead (or JJJ, lol, that would have backfired. But I trusted more that Lorab was in fact unrecruited ) Possibly a successful Guardian alliance would have given us the numbers power to win. But it was a risk that my teammates strongly discouraged, and we wanted Llama back.

No hard feelings I would have recommended a LoRab rezz anyway because her role was more useful

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:-- Who did you end gossip to on D/N11?

I picked bullseye, TH, and Sorsha for gossip.

"One just finished the Epic Challenge last night
One may just lose it all today
One had to have their role redefined"

I'm pretty sure my night action got redirected though, because these didn't really match up.

That's me!

And I'm pretty sure that's the only time I was targeted by anyone with anything the entire game, other than when Devin killed me at the end.

Roxy being the Supreme Judge is the funniest post-game revelation for me. I kept telling her she was crazy What happened with the Night 9.1/9.2 thing Rox?

My epic challenge was to stop 2 Guardian lynches in Position 5 and then all Guardian lynches would be pardoned. I made no progress on it. The one time a Guardian was up for lynch in that position, nutella had a lynch switch anyways.

Bullzeye wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Lmao at aapje double crossing everyone I was told he was on Team Azura. Grats winners!

I enjoyed trying to win as my role but I had a lot of bad luck with my Guardians. JJJ and LoRab both died as soon as I found them, and nutella wasn't interested in helping the Guardians win :P I felt like a complete non-factor most of the time I had a ton of fun though as I always do in BR/LC games. But Recruitment Mafia games always have a way of breaking my heart.

To be fair, nutella did want us to win with you and did ask us to rezz one of yours. She also defended you a few times in our btsc. We just didn't have any reason to trust you and were only keeping you around because we didn't need you dead. You kept coming after me and Llama so we weren't really keen on helping you, and didn't want to use our team's rezz on someone who wasn't aligned with us in case you just used us out for your own ends and then sold us out.

I went after you guys because she wouldn't tell me who her teammates were :P So I didn't know who to go after. Eventually I figured out that you and Llama (obviously) were on the team, so I backed off you and tried to get Rey lynched, but then Nutella died and I went after you because I had nothing else to play for.

I'm happy to hear that she stood up for me in BTSC

Lol @ JJJ not telling me he was recruited. my recruits has a hard time trusting me

Black Rock wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Lmao at aapje double crossing everyone I was told he was on Team Azura. Grats winners!

I enjoyed trying to win as my role but I had a lot of bad luck with my Guardians. JJJ and LoRab both died as soon as I found them, and nutella wasn't interested in helping the Guardians win :P I felt like a complete non-factor most of the time I had a ton of fun though as I always do in BR/LC games. But Recruitment Mafia games always have a way of breaking my heart.

I need to apologize to you. I made your win condition too hard. I have learned my lesson and will try something else next time... In Recruitment V - Back to the basics - Back To Earth!

You know I'll be back for more. Can't wait for the next one

Thanks again BR and LC for hosting this, you guys were amazing.

Lmao at aapje double crossing everyone I was told he was on Team Azura. Grats winners!

I enjoyed trying to win as my role but I had a lot of bad luck with my Guardians. JJJ and LoRab both died as soon as I found them, and nutella wasn't interested in helping the Guardians win :P I felt like a complete non-factor most of the time I had a ton of fun though as I always do in BR/LC games. But Recruitment Mafia games always have a way of breaking my heart.

Black Rock wrote:TH. Behave.

I think I've held it together remarkably well all things considered

(And I just want to say that I've had tons of fun this game. )

24 hour Days yes please. Put me out of my misery

Spacedaisy wrote:I'm fairly certain there are at least three still on the Azura team, maybe four. Force voting three people clinches the next vote for them.

Are you telling us that Uzbitch is dead?

Voted for "place". I will be suspicious of all "holding" voters.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:From the mouth of a wise, bierded man: "JUST DO IT!"
I might be paraphrasing, though. Can't remember.

DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS

YESTERDAY YOU SAID TOMORROW

SO JUST DO IT!

bea wrote:Devin as I said earlier when I switched, I was positive it didn't matter where my vote went, it was going to get switched regardless.

bea wrote:Imma vote position 2.

...

Long Con wrote:"Please, go back home and sleep, and you will find more clarity of thought in the morning!"

I agree with SpaceDaisy here.

Spacedaisy wrote:TH, plan on voting?

Not really.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ugh, I feel like lynching llama today would not turn out well.

Me too, and no one seems to care.

reywaS wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I see you chose not to act last night Rey.

Or maybe he had an out of body experience.

Long Con wrote:G-Man has been killed by a mysterious figure.

or maybe not lol

Can't argue with that

Bullzeye wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:I know getting votes is frustrating, and I'm sorry for that. And I admire you for sticking with your guns. But I'm going to stick with mine, too.

I'm getting votes because of deliberate misinterpretations of how things happened and because I'm a convenient scapegoat. Funny how Llama was definitely and obviously bad, blatant lynch candidate, right up until the lynch starts...

Who's deliberately misinterpreting things?

Nobody is arguing that Llama isn't bad.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Good point. I guess with all these lynch switches and immunities, overpowered is the new normal.

Speaking of overpowered, I wouldn't mind being a Shinigami again.

I know right? Shinigami is the life for me.

Good point. I guess with all these lynch switches and immunities, overpowered is the new normal.

The only thing missing from the "Llama = Azura" theory is that Azura's Position 2 power feels like a Night power rather than a Day one, and the night for Position 2 hasn't happened yet. Maybe it can be used during the Day; that seems a little overpowered though

thellama73 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:You almost have to wonder why anyone bothered to rezz Llama at all

Hey, uncalled for.

Bullzeye wrote:I think I'm a quite easy scapegoat for Team Azura now. They don't want to lose Llama. They want to lynch someone who isn't on their team, so they will push the lynch in my direction.

The people expressing hesitance for a Llama vote today (MM, Daisy, myself) are the same people suspecting you (MM, Daisy, myself) and are the same people who have been saying all game that Llama is bad (MM, Daisy, myself). So who is this "they" you speak of? I believe Rey referred to this as "straw manning".

You almost have to wonder why anyone bothered to rezz Llama at all

Spacedaisy wrote:I see you chose not to act last night Rey.

Or maybe he had an out of body experience.

Long Con wrote:G-Man has been killed by a mysterious figure.

LoRab wrote:REZZZZZZZZZZZ MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

I miss you

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Meantime, I am only about 600 posts away from TH's record in Death Note.

Until someone gets an unkillable role that has to be lynched, or MP ever survives more than halfway through a game, that record will never be broken :P

I'm down for a Bullzeye lynch. Fo sho.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Azura Nokomis - Sorcerers of the Elements

Position 2: Chooses a player. Votes for her go to that player, and votes for that player go to her

Perhaps llama is Azura and he chose Tranq.

Could be.

So why are we in Position 2 again?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Rest in peace Epi, G-Man and Team Caelia.

Here we are again in Position 2. We were here when we tried to lynch Llama that one time. Fun stuff.

Any idea what happened last time? I can't make heads or tails of it.

Ubnub switched the lynch to Tranq who was Ahriman and immune is my best guess.

Rest in peace Epi, G-Man and Team Caelia.

Here we are again in Position 2. We were here when we tried to lynch Llama that one time. Fun stuff.

reywaS wrote:Ok, I have a question about the whole "let's definitely lynch llama tomorrow" thing. I could very well be missing something here, but that's the purpose of the question.

Why is llama the obvious choice to be a team mate of nutella rather than, say, Turnip Head or Bullzeye who were the most vocal advocates for abandoning the idea of lynching nutella in order to get rid of me?

Don't kill me plz

Spacedaisy wrote:Doubt he will be for long. He was rezzed when the Druidic elder was in a position to Rez. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out his alignment.

My thoughts exactly.

Rest in peace Nutella.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I like my idea better.

Word. Who else is excited for the inevitable Llama lynch tomorrow? I know I am

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

reywaS wrote:we really live in a crazy world when Must survive to win = can't win with anyone else.

With the way this game has gone, we most certainly live in a crazy world.

TH, you and I have a tendency to simultaneously make it to late game stages together.

What's your secret? :P

I could ask you the same question

reywaS wrote:we really live in a crazy world when Must survive to win = can't win with anyone else.

With the way this game has gone, we most certainly live in a crazy world.

bea wrote: I seem to remember a certain Big Bad Wolf (TH) being quite the help to the civs, particularly Bo Peep in that storybook game on LP way back in the day......

Truly my finest hour :P

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Linki: Survivor? But TH, why lynch someone who you might need dead when you have the chance to lynch someone who you do need dead. I'm not exactly sure where you stand, but I'm guessing you feel differently?

I'm not sure what you're asking me here but I feel I've made my stance on this pretty clear. I believe Rey was mindlessly killing until I called him on it. I think he's going to be forced to play nice at least for a little while. I have no idea if the rest of us need him dead or not, but SK's usually can't win with anybody else and I think we'll have to deal with him eventually.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:I do like working with/listening to people who sound genuine.

You know he's just saying whatever he has to in order to stay alive, right?

If he's the SK then he probably needs everyone dead to win, that's what SK means. Good luck with that

You're the one who suggested he achieved his epic challenge. His win con may have changed.

To what?

Ironically enough, I think me calling out Rey as the SK is what will force him to stop killing willy nilly and choose a side. I don't think he can be trusted long term (he's claiming to not be LMS, and while the role doesn't explicitly state that it's LMS, I don't think it's a reach that it is). And if he's telling the truth about not being LMS, then even more ironic is that his best bet for a swift endgame would be to kill the civvies who are probably fewer in number than the baddies, and those are probably exactly the people who have been forced to put their hope in Rey's murderous hands. But I don't think he'll do that, and in any case I'm happy with the work I've done here today

That said I think Sorsha makes an excellent point about us being in Position 3 and being able to nullify Rey's potentially harmful actions in the short term. I'll switch my vote to nutella in the hope that it takes me off Rey's shitlist.

reywaS wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I think making a deal with the devil is just asking for trouble. Good luck trying to control a guy who doesn't pay attention, doesn't care who he kills, has completed his Epic Challenge, and needs everyone dead.

So much conjecture in this post.

Have you read the role that you claim I am?

Yup.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Who's to say that EC accomplishment didn't give him a new win con? And further, more of a reason to fight for his life?

Or maybe it gave him a second kill

Long Con wrote:Llama has been killed by the Rogue Mercenary. Scotty has been killed by a mysterious figure.