The Syndicate

Yay, good job guys.. sorry I missed it, I'm really failing this game. Nice to see my ping from day three was right though!

Why does the lynch post make it sound like aces was the one who survived and not FH?

kneel4justice wrote:My internet is down the moment I have time for posting, go figure. I need a new computer, it's just mine that has these issues. Anyways I am surprised to say what TH is saying is actually coming across genuine and possible to me and I am wondering if some how I was wrong in suspecting him. So now I am wondering who to look towards and DH is someone I think has been flying under the radar. Also FH I did reply to your suspicion on Epi which I guess you didn't see.

I agree with this post regarding TH. I'm not fully caught up on today's posts and don't think I'll have time before the poll is up.

Voting DH- one of my early (day1 or 2) suspects in this game

So was there a civvie way for TH to have survived yesterday?

DharmaHelper wrote:16. One Night Stand: Choose one other player to spend the night with. Anything that happens to one happens to the other. If one or the other gets targeted for a kill, protect, curse, etc. then if affects both of them. If the player you spend the night with targets someone you are told who they targeted.

So at least one of Bass/SVS is guaranteed to be a civ?

Yeah... unless there was some strange target switching going on, I'd have to review the roles, not even sure it is possible.

DH- SVS had asked about what you thought about Aces switching his vote right at the last minute and I was also looking forward to your answer and what you think overall about him this game. Do you think he is civvie?

Aces- why did you switch your vote at the last minute? Did you really believe INH to be bad? What do you think of FH at this point?

I'm voting for TH now

Well with parting words like that all I have to say is good riddance, civvie or not.

I voted INH also. I can understand that all of FH's case might not be correct but I really doubt she is bad and turning the lynch on her just because her whole case doesn't line up 100% just stinks to me.

I'm so confused.

Good job guys

I only read back that last couple pages but what stood out to me was the Dom vs SVS, obviously. I'm throwing down on SVS's side. I think Dom and MR are possibly teamies aaaaand other than that I'm interested in FH's suspicions as well. I think those are a few good places to look the next day. I didn't really review the case on Rey so I'm kinda indifferent there, hope he's bad though.

Sorry I missed it

I was sleeping... Reading now

Might as well stick with bwt for the vote today, seems to have the most evidence from what I did actually read. I haven't had much time to keep up with this game that past couple of days... I'm back at wok tonight though and she have time for catch up.

Hedgeowl wrote:Ok, that was a shorter catch-up than I thought. Thanks for the analysis FH! Based on the assumptions we have to work with I can't see any other options. A lot of us missed the Day 1 vote which may make this harder. Dom was on my radar for his potential votes protecting Llama and still is after your analysis.

PB would have to be very careful how they voted since we could easily track them down if it was too close or a tie after a few votes. Since they were probably not voting for Llama or Sorsha it's a safer bet that they voted someone unlikely to get many votes or didnt vote at all. What gets me is why would PB vote JJ if llama were a big suspect? Since its likely they weren't on the same baddie team it would make the most sense to vote for llama and get "civv credit" for lynching a baddie. Granted at the time I didn't see the case on JJ and hadn't played with him before, where others really seemed to see something.

That's what she said

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Hedgeowl wrote:
You're right, Epi does swing both ways He can be über talkative and then slide back into quiet, especially if multiple games are going on at a time. So I don't tend to think of it as indicative in alignment necessarily.

Haven't caught up yet, but it appears I need to as votes are starting to role in...

Linki inh

That's what's she said

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Hedgeowl wrote:Ok, that was a shorter catch-up than I thought. Thanks for the analysis FH! Based on the assumptions we have to work with I can't see any other options. A lot of us missed the Day 1 vote which may make this harder. Dom was on my radar for his potential votes protecting Llama and still is after your analysis.
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That's what she said

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Hedgeowl wrote: BWT was brought up by k4j just before FHs post, but rather than addressing any suspicions against him he jumps at the possibility that rey is bad. Doesn't help his case here at all frankly. Maybe I am wrong since I haven't played with rey as much as others, but I tend to think of quiet rey as civ rey. I would love to hear BwT address some suspicions brought against him. It would clearly be in his best interest as well. I won't be here around the vote, so can't wait long either.

Honestly reading through today my list has changed a bit:
BWT
Dom
FH
Rey

That's what she said

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Bass_the_Clever wrote:I went with rey because I feel like he was backing llama up a little to much and it pinged me when he said he didn't look over the roles that well. I think if you were really trying to find mafia you would have read and tried to understand the roles especially after someone survived a day one lynch.

That's what she said

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Hedgeowl wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I don't recall that, but that does not mean it did not happen, obv. Generally, I am not a fan of fly bys, and most people are not. I don't recall Sorsha doing this in the past, but lord knows my memory is not all that lol.
I understand not having time and wanting to not miss a vote, but I think everyone should give a reason. Otherwise what is the point of the game? Votes, reasons given are a huge part of the analysis and discussion and where those who prefer pings vibes etc get their vibes from too. So yeah, I dont like no dirve-by, fly-by, sail-by voting.

Dang civvie Ninja! Way to end the Llama wont die saga. Love playing with you Logan! I only wished we had learned his role, but this saves another lynch from being used. Seems like its time for some analyzing.

My current list of suspects: Dom, rey, and DH. I will he back to explore these peeps further and encourage others to do the same.

That's what she said

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Epignosis wrote:I do not understand the pollquestion.

That's what she said

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DharmaHelper wrote: Shit Ace I think he's on to us.

That's what she said

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reywaS wrote:Well, that's lame.

That's what she said

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Epignosis wrote:I'm a top, not a bottom, asshole.

that's what she said
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This is what FH rounded up on that particular situation. It does't have DH's post which said there was a tie but I could find it, or you can search his posts.

Flyin' High wrote:I went back to pull the posts on MR and john that Sorsha was talking about to see for myself how this tie conversation initially began.

Mister Rearranger wrote:I like the changeable vote thing. Wouldn't want to see it in every game, but in a zany one like this, it feels right.

FZ. wrote:Haha, why do we even bother voting. I really hope you are a civ, llama.

And that would be quite an interesting mafia game
I wouldn't hope that. It paints quite a target on him for baddies if that's the case. And if he's bad, based on the roles that can avoid lynches and how they can do it, he's likely vulnerable to the next lynch.

@boo: Will ties result in no lynch? Or will the lynch be randomized?
This was the post by MR asking boo how ties would be handled which makes it possible he knew the lynch was a tie and wanted to know how it was broken.

johns2jj wrote:
FZ. wrote:
johns2jj wrote:I did not no vote because it seems some hosts may react to that. I would rather not miss out on anything because I did not vote.
What do you think about llama's suspicions? Would you agree with him if it were someone else and not you?
I think he may have a grudge against me for how I played in the last game but I can't be for sure. He tends to make passable arguments for those he votes for but as admitted by himself he has lately been lynching civs. I do not know anyone's play style well enough to believe anything they say yet but if you feel he has made a good enough case than I can't dissuade you. I think he is most likely bad because he survived the kill when in this game someone breaks ties.
This appears to be the first post where john makes it seem like he knew there was a tie before anyone said anything about the possibility of a tie. Then Sorsha asked if there was a tie and john proceeded to make about 3 further posts on ties.

However, other than the penis envy prize, was there a way for a player to have access to an additional vote Day 1 that makes them likely to have been bad? Reading through the roles there is the person who starts with -2 votes and then night powers which cause vote manipulation, but I didn't see someone whose vote is worth 2.

I see Sorsha's case is that it appears both MR and john may have known about the tie in advance which can be indicative of teammates. I can't decide if MR's question means he knew there was a tie, or was genuinely curious how future ties would be handled?

Regardless, I am still wary of john for the reasons I've previously stated. I'm going to place my vote on john now but am curious to read other people's perspectives on this discussion and others.

And yes I am an overdefensive player at times so I wouldn't put it past some players who know that to try to draw it out of me on purpose.

Mister Rearranger wrote:
Sorsha wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I vote llama again.
What exactly made you start suspecting Llama? Because I remember at first you said you didn't.
And do you still suspect BWT?

Linki, so does this mean you suspect DH?
I suspect him yes, but its mostly circumstantial.

After the day one lynch a couple of players (MR and jj) seemed to know that the lynch was a tie.... when nothing had been said in the thread about it being so. So I was thinking one or both of them had btsc with the player who made it a tie. DH being the card czar knew for sure it was a tie because he was the tie breaker (although he didn't say anything about it until 5 hours before the lynch ended) so he could have been the source of them knowing it was a tie (bts) also.

Hope this makes sense, I'm at work and really distracted.
So you think jj might be bad?

Well... not anymore no

kneel4justice wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I vote llama again.
What exactly made you start suspecting Llama? Because I remember at first you said you didn't.
And do you still suspect BWT?

Linki, so does this mean you suspect DH?

I suspect him yes, but its mostly circumstantial.

After the day one lynch a couple of players (MR and jj) seemed to know that the lynch was a tie.... when nothing had been said in the thread about it being so. So I was thinking one or both of them had btsc with the player who made it a tie. DH being the card czar knew for sure it was a tie because he was the tie breaker (although he didn't say anything about it until 5 hours before the lynch ended) so he could have been the source of them knowing it was a tie (bts) also.

Hope this makes sense, I'm at work and really distracted.

kneel4justice wrote:My vote is going to Llama. I just don't see you being anything but bad.
But I do tend to think some of you are just bandwagoning, and not paying attention to anyone else. Shouldn't you be at least looking at others besides Llama?! Or nah?

I am suspicious of everyone who voted for me resulting in my almost lynch on day one, and of DH.. and llama.

Voting llama

And to answer the question you asked DH but he didn't answer above, yes he has played many, many games with me.

rip john... someone having extra votes again?

oozing scrotum pustule

Sorry I missed it.. I'm having phone or internet troubles (haven't figured it out yet) I would have voted john but I'm ok with llama too.

Oh whatever. I'm done with this. I have things to do and no time to sit around today being attacked for every fucking thing I say.

What I was trying to get from John was an answer to why he thought/knew it was a tie. The wording in his post made it sound like he KNEW it was a tie but I wanted to make sure I wasn't misreading his intention. I'm not satisfied with his answers about it and think he is bad, I think with MR.

I didn't think they had btsc with you until you said something today about me being aggressive. I saw THAT as a way for you to defend john and/or MR.

Linki- how do you explain players knowing there was a tie when there was no in thread indication of it Rey?

Lol... I just re-read my own posts and I see no way how you can think they are actually aggressive. Can you find one in particular you thought was aggressive and point out what seems so offensive about it?

Seem aggressive? I'm asking questions....

And can you explain to me how MR and john seem to have both known that there was a tie?

DharmaHelper wrote:I panicked and randomized between llama and Sorsha and from reading back and reading the most recent comments of the two I'm starting to think my random pick screwed up :P

So you think you should have picked me? Why?

I see what other players are saying about llama and how it makes him look bad, what I am concerned about too is the knowledge that a few other players had that there was in fact a tie... Nothing in the host post had said anything about it or made us think there was one so I am thinking these players had btsc with one another. Or with DH who was the tie breaker.

The way you worded that post makes it sound like you thought/knew it was a tie.

And you are the second one to bring up the possibility of a tie in the lynch. And I find that weird... I have to look back and see who the other person was. I think it was MR. Yeah... It was MR.

Was there a tie?

Hedgeowl wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
insertnamehere wrote:We're all fucked aren't we. The baddies in this game are just TOO GOOD.

That's what she said.

Don't give up guys It is only Day 2.

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Unless the woman has Multiple Personality Disorder, I don't think that instance should count.

I would have preferred:

"The baddies in this game are just TOO GOOD."

"That's what she said."
Well unless you are Doin' it in the butt, I don't think you get a say.

1. Doin’ it in the butt: Each night, you may pick one player who must quote another players post every time they post (which they must do at least 10 times) the following day. In each post, the person you picked must bold a part of the quote, and the first line of their post must be ‘That’s what she said.’ in bold, it must make some kind of sense. If they fail to comply, you get to choose who they vote for in the following 3 lynches. Once in the game, you may make another player buttsore, putting 5 votes on them. Kills on odd nights.

So the same person who killed FZ is the one who gave this curse.

So who has a juvenile sense of humor and likes to kill the talkies?

Yeah, game over.

Well played baddies... well played.

Hedgeowl wrote:
kneel4justice wrote:
boo wrote:Night 1 End: Bringin Reagan Back

Ronald Reagan was brought back in time. The time-continuum was not changed. Weird…?

FZ got murdered by… doin’ it in the butt. Well, stay classy FZ.

Today’s question:
Daddy, why is Mommy crying?

FZ. has been killed. Thanks for playing!
It is now Day 2. You have 24 hours to lynch someone, please get your answer cards in in the first 23 hours of the lynch. Metalmarsh is your Card Czar today.
This SUCKS.
RIPiywg FZ! I am surprised FZ was killed early again. Not sure if because she was unknown or because of her suspicions. Will have to do a reread.

FZ was doing quite a bit of baddie hunting on day one so the mafia targeting her isn't really a surprise. She voted for llama but it looks like she would have switched her vote at the end (to me, I think) if anyone else had had enough vote to keep llama from getting the most.

Its kinda hard to tell who she actually found the most suspicious though.

And even though FZ is dead I would hope johns will still answer this for the rest of us....

FZ. wrote:
johns2jj wrote:I did not no vote because it seems some hosts may react to that. I would rather not miss out on anything because I did not vote.
What do you think about llama's suspicions? Would you agree with him if it were someone else and not you?

Sorry for missing the vote. I thought I would have time to come in and vote while at work but it was unexpectedly busy.

Thanks to everyone who voted for me though. It feels nice to be missed

Epignosis wrote:
Sorsha wrote:Try to get awesome points so you can lock into a cool role otherwise the roles switch each night. That's what I'm going with.
Is that what the kids are calling them now?

I remember they used to call them "cool points." If you did something awkward or stupid, they'd say, "Gimmie 10 cool points, bro."

Ah, the 90s.

I don't remember cool points, I guess I was way too uncool back then.

But I do know that I should get at least +1 awesome point for my Phil Collins avatar

Try to get awesome points so you can lock into a cool role otherwise the roles switch each night. That's what I'm going with.

boo wrote:
Sorsha wrote:So you need 3 awesome points to lick into a non-passive role. What about the passive roles? And there is only 1 point per day up for grabs? Is that right?
The passive roles aren't locked into. Since someone might already have it when you want to lock into it, that wouldn't really work.

Yes, just 1 point a day.

So how does one get a passive role? Did I miss it in the instructions somewhere? I thought I read everything...

Haha... Lick. How many licks does it take to get a non-passive role?? :P

So you need 3 awesome points to lick into a non-passive role. What about the passive roles? And there is only 1 point per day up for grabs? Is that right?

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