The Syndicate

I'm going with Nero too. I just wanted to see what daisy would do with a tie. Sorry bullz

Lol.. It would be nice if she would grace us with her presence and let us know what she's thinking. Shes usually more talkative than this.

Why do you think she will vote for you and not Nero?

Well... That is true about the Wilgy point. I thought he made a good point about G-man and that continued to be the driving force behind my suspicion of him. But with the fact that there appear to be more than one team it really just ruled them out from being on the same team. And until wilgy flipped I did believe he was civ.

I could possibly change my vote. I still don't feel bad about Nero though.. I'd put daisy above him I think.

You have been basically throwing your votes away though. Easy to say he's obviously civ after he's dead, it wasn't obvious to me or I wouldn't have voted him.

I don't think bullz voting history looks great tbh. And no I meant lone wolf more like he's alone, no bts partners.

Is there a SK llama? Or is it a civ ninja?

Sig also defended bullz even though he admitted he didn't like his votes.

thellama73 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

I'm putting my vote on bullz for the moment, I still think bullz/epi/daisy are more likely to be mafia than Nero.

I think

I don't understand this reasoning. You also voted to kill obvious-civ C-Man. Explain yourself or I'm coming for you next.

I feel like Nero is a lone wolf this game. I don't really know his play style that well yet but his posts don't sound to me like someone with bts.

Out of the dead Mafia which ones do you think we're on which team, if we are assuming more than one team? And how does Nero fit with that?

I'm putting my vote on bullz for the moment, I still think bullz/epi/daisy are more likely to be mafia than Nero.

I think

I think this is the weirdest game I've played.

Three baddies down but the game isn't over?

DrWilgy wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:It's bothering me that you think I'm civ.

What exactly makes you think I'm civ?

Are you NOT a civ?

Am I?

I think you are. And I'm not going to tell you what gives it away if I'm right, just yet. Maybe after a few more games where I can really see for sure. I think I only figured it out the last game or two before this.

I don't really see anyone agreeing with me so I could be wrong.

linki- lol... ok I was wrong!

DrWilgy wrote:It's bothering me that you think I'm civ.

What exactly makes you think I'm civ?

Are you NOT a civ?

I think Wilgy has civ tells and I'm seeing them n this game, maybe he knows this and is exploiting them and I've been tricked, but I'm pretty sure he's civ.

Actually, I think it might be more accurate to say he has baddie tells that I'm NOT seeing.

sig wrote:Okay so some quick thoughts before the night ends. Right know I'm reading Llama as a civ he shouldn't be lynched. After reading everything over Bull's does look better though I still dislike his votes. He isn't a good lynch candidate. I've got a slight ping on Sorsha for her vote, but besides that she is null. A few pings from Nero, but not enough to lynch on keep I'll keep my eye on him.
Wilgy is a slight civ lean, again I wouldn't lynch him today.
I've got a slight mafia ping on Quin. Today I'd like to lynch either Epi or SD as I believe one or more likely both of them are mafia members.

You don't think bullz having two throw away votes in two days isn't pingy? I keep going back and forth on him, he seems to be contributing but his votes have been worthless imo.

I agree about llama, daisy and epi. I still think Wilgy is civ. Nero and Quin are both kinda to me. Quin isn't giving me the pings you're getting from him, I think you might be letting his vote for you cloud your judgment on him though.

For today I'd be looking for bullz, daisy or epi for my vote.

thellama73 wrote:I'm extremely disappointed in Sorsha and Daisy for casting such foolish votes. Nero had at least a possibility of being bad. One of you at least had better be mafia, or else there is no excuse for what you have done.

My rainbow list continues to be 100% accurate.

I'm not mafia. I thought G-man had a chance of being bad, I was wrong. I suppose I shouldn't have switched because I did have some reservations about daisy as well.... so voting with her was not a good idea, obviously now in hind sight, but I still don't understand why everyone now seems so sure of G-man, I didn't see it.

Sorry G-man

G-Man wrote:I'm back now after splitting my thumb open while assembling Lilah's swing. Sorsha is not helping her case any with her ebb and flow. I'll wait five or so minutes before placing my vote on someone.

I wouldn't really call it ebb and flow. I was suspicious of you yesterday, continued to be suspicious of you today. My bullz vote was just a knee jerk reaction to reading his post/vote. As soon as I clicked submit on it it just didn't feel right, thus, I went back to my original suspicion.

Forget it... I'm going back to my original suspicion of g man. It just feels better/gut thing.

I put my vote on bullz for the reason mentioned in my last post.

I'm at work now so my presence will be spotty...

Quin wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:

sig wrote:

Quin wrote:

G-Man wrote:My evening itinerary is dinner, bottle, bath time, story, and tuck in. The first two are complete and I'll return after completing the others.

I think I'll change and come back to G-Man. Bubby's take priority, after all.

Sig, your turn.

My turn for what?

'What makes you a bad lynch'?

Why would I be a good lynch? I haven't done anything suspicious I don't think, I've made cases and stated my opinion of people, and have been an active town player.

What makes you a bad lynch?

I ask questions, make reasoned assumptions and provide my opinions when due. And I think that is crucial to giving town the advantage in lynches.


I put forward my question (and vote) for Sorscha now.

What makes you a bad lynch?

Because I'm not bad and in here trying to at least find some baddies.

I don't like bullz vote this round either. He criticized players who voted him yesterday for voting a player who wouldn't be around to defend himself and he just did it himself now.

I could see a vote for bullz or daisy today also, neither have offered much/anything in the way of suspicions and don't seem to even be trying come together with the thread to baddie hunt.

Sloonei only mentioned Quin twice. Once as a defense of Quin wanting to vote for a no lynch and the other to explain how he knows him.

Looks like you've got some whittling to do g.

Sig can you explain what was so pinky about daisys post? I can understand it being defensive, because it was a defense :P but what pinged you? Daisy is always a tough read for me.

And I don't have much opinion on Quin. His posts seem ok to me, he knows sloonei from another site, I could see reasons for him both wanting to kill sloon night one and not wanting to kill sloonei night one because of that. I'll look over slooneis posts to see what he thought of Quin so far though.

Good to know. Looking at your iso's it's kinda hard to tell who your top suspects are g-man. Some of your reads are kinda wishy-washy, who are you looking at for a lynch today?

G-Man wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

G-Man wrote:I just thought it worth mentioning since people are giving Epi heat. His vote helped to save Bullzeye but it wasn't the last word. No one has yet asked me why I didn't try saving myself. You would all be wondering that one had I actually been lynched.

hey, why this?

If I had died, you guys would have wondered about my vote. I am highlighting the fact that it's treated as a non-issue today. Did nobody notice my vote or is it because I didn't die?

All other points of discussion are valid and I apologize for derailing.

When I was tied for two votes I did notice that your vote was in a position that you'd be able to move it to either lynch me or one of the other players with two votes which was why I was considering moving my vote if I needed to save myself.

I don't think you surviving the lynch makes you any more or less civvie than before. Looking at Epis last minute vote it looks like he was saving bullz but maybe it was down to the wire because you and epi were hashing out bts how to move your votes around (and if you wanted to burn you lynch save on the first lynch of the game). I'm still suspicious of you g-man because I still think wilgy had a good point yesterday. I'm also looking at bullz and epi. The one thing I don't find suspicious about epi that everyone else does is his the fluffiness of his posts. When we played LOST mafia he was the same, he did hardcore role playing for nearly the whole game.

Linki- I didn't play biblical g-man so I don't get your reference

Sorry I haven't been around. I was sleeping. I'm here now, going to read some stuff.

sig wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

sig wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I also need to mention a couple things to you beautiful players.
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Also, there has been chatter about player survivals. As is now evident, this sort of ability is in play in this game. This has been included as a mechanic in this game, and is not viewed as a power role.

I'm confused?

There is a Heist guideline that states that a Heist should have no more than three (3) power roles. I'm stating that I do not consider this mechanic to be a power role.

What is that mechanic and when does it appear?

I think he's talking about the survival mechanic of G-Man's role and what llama claimed as his also. That their survival abilities are not considered "power roles."

RIP Sloonei, adios SVS

thellama73 wrote:

Sorsha wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Four way tie is extremely bad for freedom, but I'm not inclined to vote for either Daisy, Sorsha, or C-Man. YOu guys should consider joining me.

Out of self preservation I would but I'd not want to lynch wilgy.

Do you have an alternate suspicion?

I'll refer you to my rainbow list.

Man... You couldn't even quote it for me, made me go find it.

Where is svs? I don't want to vote for her, just wondering where she ran away to.

I'd go for bullz if I had to save myself.

thellama73 wrote:Four way tie is extremely bad for freedom, but I'm not inclined to vote for either Daisy, Sorsha, or C-Man. YOu guys should consider joining me.

Out of self preservation I would but I'd not want to lynch wilgy.

Do you have an alternate suspicion?

Sorry wilgy that "who are you voting for wilgy?" Should read "who are you voting for sig?" As he was the one I quoted in that post.

I don't know 100% that you are civ here but you do know it's a fact that I was onto you in the last game when you were bad. I'm not seeing that same wilgy in this game and I think your observation about g-man is solid. This day has not had as much discussion as some day ones we've had lately so the fact that I think you're civ and I like your observation leads me to follow your vote.

I seriously don't understand what is so suspicious about this. If g-man is lynched and he's a civ I don't expect that I would escape scrutiny tomorrow or be able to just pawn it off on you. Does anyone really do that? Would anyone even let them do that? It would be stupid and lead straight to my own lynch.

sig wrote:

G-Man wrote:The opening posts say that ties are broken with a coin flip.

Thanks

@Sorsha I don't remember but I'm a cancer and that is how we roll.
:P

I'm cancer too, I'm aware. :P

What's your grudge on Quinn about?

And also.... What should I do but vote with someone I feel good about if I don't have any strong feelings of my own for someone?

Sloonei wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'm feeling like this is civ Wilgy this game, he's playful and seems like he's enjoying himself which is not how he is as mafia.

I think I'll trust him and go for a G-man vote.

voting Sorsha based on this post. I just got done criticizing Bullzeye for absolving himself of responsibility by randomizing his vote on you, but here you absolve your own responsibility by deferring to Wilgy.

I think I am a good judge of wilgy

Not much to go on for a day one anyway, it hasn't been too talkative.

sig wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'm feeling like this is civ Wilgy this game, he's playful and seems like he's enjoying himself which is not how he is as mafia.

I think I'll trust him and go for a G-man vote.

I don't reaally like this vote, It seems a little bit to early to just trust someone enough to vote with them. Even if Sorsha is right about Wilgy, he might not know what he is talking about.

Who are you voting for wilgy?

I'm feeling like this is civ Wilgy this game, he's playful and seems like he's enjoying himself which is not how he is as mafia.

I think I'll trust him and go for a G-man vote.

Is that video showing up?

Is it acceptable to no u vote bullz since his voted sucks so bad? I'm only half joking, I don't have any good suspicions now.

Bullzeye wrote:Randomizer said *Sorsha*. Now I'm off to hopefully stop coughing long enough to get some sleep

Seriously though.... Who random votes any more?

DrWilgy wrote:Let's play a game!

I'm bad and my teammate is Sig

*Wilgy places the tomato filled fish hat on Sorsha's head*

Thanks

Fwiw when this game started I looked back at the other heist games. All the other heist games have been 13 players with 3 baddies/10 civvies. I don't know how a 12 player game would be set up.

Llama- never mind that last questions you- you said yourself you never do rainbow lists. Why start now is my new question?

Also this has pinged me:

thellama73 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I'm not content to sit around and wait for Day 1, so I'll get the festivities started with a simple question: 9 vs 3 or 10 vs 2?

Neither. I'm betting it's not as simple as either of those.

Interesting. I could see that. Do you have any particular thoughts?

Not really. I just don't like speculating on things we have no way of knowing. Like Sherlock Holmes said, if you form a theory before the facts are in, you get committed to it and start twisting the facts to fit your theory instead of the other way around. I think it's dangerous.

You don't like speculating but by saying you're 'betting it's not as simple as either of those' you are speculating. It's also an odd statement to make since heist games were designed around the simple basic set up that Mafia started out as so why wouldn't one assume it be as simple as one of those? Unless you know for sure?

I'm voting llama for the time being. It's a half pressure/half suspicion vote.

Linki- sorry, it takes a long time to for me to finger type on my phone

Really glad G-Man switched his vote off of me, like sig I'm a crabby Cancer and I hold a grudge for a very long time.

Llama- is it true that it was your first time ever making a rainbow list like sig said?

I agree with pressure votes on wilgy, I guessed him as Mafia fairly early in the last heist game so hopefully I can get an early read on him in this game also.

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