The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:Bass, you said to look at Ambray as well as Made, right? Why Ambray?

Made wrote:It's sticking out like a sore thumb in my head that simple doesn't make sense. Why do we care so much that Ambray was the first to vote FZ? Is there more background or context that i'm just overlooking? It isn't arguable that Mp was the driving force behind FZ's lynch. Are people who are throwing Ambray's name around contesting that?

Current reads, I'm really mixed on MP, It's interesting, how now that i have actually have bases to make an argument against him, he seems civvie. As DF described, he seems like his eccentric self. I think it's too early to lynch him if there's an alternative.
My lead going into this day was Llama, so

I'm not seeing a solid case against Bass due to how much that weighed on FZ being mafia.

Dom is reading Civvie, which is terrifying because normally he reads blank. He's far more helpful and seemingly rational than normal imo.

Hedgie and BWT should say more words

Made wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well I guess I voting snow dog. I think everyone who is voting for me needs to be looked at next lynch.

Did you speak at all about the accusation MP gave to you? I think you did, but please refresh me: did you know it was MP who was targeted? Did you know DFaraday could have been the target?

I didn't know who was targeted . I said MP's name because he had votes and was being talked about. That's why I bought him up. I said he could be the civvie role that can survive night kills. I also went on to say I didn't want to see either Mp or Df get lynched because of that.

The last part of this message is misleading. After being confronted, you stated this, not before the issue was brought up.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I really don't understand why someone would conclude I was the one targeted.

Bass and FZ.'s most recent posts really don't make me reconsider my perception of my observation.

Bass, the thing is: It was not made public whether DF or I survived the NK. So why would you say you think I'm civvie SOLELY based on the NK survival and you have no opinion of DF, even though it was not made public which one of us was the target?

FZ., I have NEVER seen a game on this site where there was a possibility of two different targets for the NK survival. It's certainly an interesting way to write it. But I can't recall anyone doing this, let alone Epig or Elo. And don't worry, you didn't offend me, but now that you're implying I'm either paranoid or baddie, instead of logically refuting my observation, makes me wonder. Especially so since you haven't said a word about my Bass observations.

You are reading way to much into my post .I wouldn't lynch you or DF because of last nights post.

MP even directly asked you how you felt about DF, to which you said:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Bass, what do you think of DFaraday?

I really don't have a read on him yet. What do you think of him?

Either you didn't have a read, or you didn't plan to vote for him because of the night post. Claiming both is a contradiction.

Long Con wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well I guess I voting snow dog. I think everyone who is voting for me needs to be looked at next lynch.

Did you speak at all about the accusation MP gave to you? I think you did, but please refresh me: did you know it was MP who was targeted? Did you know DFaraday could have been the target?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Voting Roxy

Why?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Can we call you idiot, Alex, if FZ flips civ? Because it'd be well worth the loss.

Sure. Same with Bass.

But if she and Bass both flip bad, I expect all of the doubters to tell me I'm awesome.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Bass, I don't think I said you appealed to emotion. Rox and FZ. have though.

You just have failed to clarify your remarks. Sorry bud.

Now, really. I've already laid out the case. I think it's the most excellent case I've ever crafted and I would bet my mafia reputation on FZ. and Bass being bad. If you wonder why, it's not a meaningless back and forth. Read my posts.

I do not want to keep debating. I have dinner to eat and a paper to write. I've neglected it. If someone actually comes up with a refutation of my case, I would LOVE to hear it. I want to catch baddies after all. It would be terrible if I was wrong.

It's too bad for the baddies that I'm 99% sure I'm not wrong.

Linki w/ Splints: Fair enough. Please read it. I really, really, really think it's self-evident for a reason and there's a reason I'm so worked up about it. I also realize I'm not doing any good jumping up and down right now, so I'm seriously not responding anymore unless someone wants to actually discuss some merits of the case.

MovingPictures07 wrote:FZ. and everyone, seriously, I am not insulting anyone. I am not questioning anyone's intelligence. I refuse to let the thread be swayed by emotion. I realize civvies use emotion. But civvies do not behave at all in the way Rox, FZ., and Bass have behaved. I will sig bet every last person on Earth that Bass and FZ. are bad.

I just want my intentions to be made clear. If anyone does not understand the ramifications of my case, please read it carefully, and ask for clarification. I have seriously tried to consider EVERY possibility for the actions of the aforementioned, but neither Bass nor FZ. gave a single reasonable response.

Now I will leave. I just want it known that I am being reasonable and that I am not insulting anyone nor am I trying to be unfair. I am trying my hardest to be fair. The fact that these three are appealing to emotion instead of refuting or addressing my points should be the final nail in the coffin.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Lol at Rox's "you do this to her every time!"

You heard it.

Rox, FZ., and Bass are all on the baddie team.

I'd bet my reputation on it. Seriously.

MovingPictures07 wrote:But NOWHERE in that post does it mention my name.

You did not mention DF at all.

Then when I asked you about him, you said:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Bass, what do you think of DFaraday?

I really don't have a read on him yet. What do you think of him?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I really don't understand why someone would conclude I was the one targeted.

Bass and FZ.'s most recent posts really don't make me reconsider my perception of my observation.

Bass, the thing is: It was not made public whether DF or I survived the NK. So why would you say you think I'm civvie SOLELY based on the NK survival and you have no opinion of DF, even though it was not made public which one of us was the target?

FZ., I have NEVER seen a game on this site where there was a possibility of two different targets for the NK survival. It's certainly an interesting way to write it. But I can't recall anyone doing this, let alone Epig or Elo. And don't worry, you didn't offend me, but now that you're implying I'm either paranoid or baddie, instead of logically refuting my observation, makes me wonder. Especially so since you haven't said a word about my Bass observations.

You are reading way to much into my post .I wouldn't lynch you or DF because of last nights post.

Oh, but I'm not reading way too much into it.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well so far I don't want to see MP get lynched and i'm not to sure about llama either. I feel like llama could just be really busy and thats why he hasn't been active like his normal self so it really hard for me to say at this point . If I had to vote right now it would probably for Black Rock . Her vote for Dom seemed kinda strange to me and out of no where .

Why don't you want to see me lynched? What about my play makes you think it's a civvie? I'm just curious. I find the fact that now at least three people (DF, you, and FZ.) have said I seem civvie interesting.

With Llama, that could be the case, but could it not also be the case for BR?

Why do you think the scenario you described is the case for Llama but not BR?

Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill. The one reason that could have happen is a certain civvie role. I don't know for sure if you are that role or not but I would hate to lynch someone who could be that role.

Yes the scenario coulod be the case for both of them but so far this game BR has given me more reason to look her way then Llama has.

I asked you "why don't you want to see me lynched?"

Your answer was not:
- I feel your attempts to baddie hunt have been genuine.
- I assess that your behavior seems like your normal civvie self.

Or anything like that. In fact, your ONLY reason is clearly bolded above. "Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill".

How is there anything more to read there than the stated? You clearly stated there has to be a reason I survived the NK.

Elohcin wrote:

Night 1: Matte Kudasai

“The competition is heating up down there Bob. The racers are doing whatever they need to do to get ahead.”

“Right you are, Darrell.

“Woah, would you look at that?!”

“What is it Darrell?”

“Right over there in Shu Todoroki’s pit. Looks like Acer has made his way over there and is puttin’ up a fuss about something. Oh man! Acer just shot at someone in the crew!”

“Wait, Darrell here comes security. Looks like Acer is backing off.”

“Woo wee, that was close. Let’s keep this race friendly folks. Let’s keep this race real friendly.”

No one has been killed.
It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Where in that post does it say I survived the NK?

MovingPictures07 wrote:I really don't understand why someone would conclude I was the one targeted.

Bass and FZ.'s most recent posts really don't make me reconsider my perception of my observation.

Bass, the thing is: It was not made public whether DF or I survived the NK. So why would you say you think I'm civvie SOLELY based on the NK survival and you have no opinion of DF, even though it was not made public which one of us was the target?

FZ., I have NEVER seen a game on this site where there was a possibility of two different targets for the NK survival. It's certainly an interesting way to write it. But I can't recall anyone doing this, let alone Epig or Elo. And don't worry, you didn't offend me, but now that you're implying I'm either paranoid or baddie, instead of logically refuting my observation, makes me wonder. Especially so since you haven't said a word about my Bass observations.

FZ. wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well so far I don't want to see MP get lynched and i'm not to sure about llama either. I feel like llama could just be really busy and thats why he hasn't been active like his normal self so it really hard for me to say at this point . If I had to vote right now it would probably for Black Rock . Her vote for Dom seemed kinda strange to me and out of no where .

Why don't you want to see me lynched? What about my play makes you think it's a civvie? I'm just curious. I find the fact that now at least three people (DF, you, and FZ.) have said I seem civvie interesting.

With Llama, that could be the case, but could it not also be the case for BR?

Why do you think the scenario you described is the case for Llama but not BR?

Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill. The one reason that could have happen is a certain civvie role. I don't know for sure if you are that role or not but I would hate to lynch someone who could be that role.

Yes the scenario coulod be the case for both of them but so far this game BR has given me more reason to look her way then Llama has.

Damn, do you think llama is a civ? I don't want to lynch a civ

MovingPictures07 wrote:Bass, what do you think of DFaraday?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well so far I don't want to see MP get lynched and i'm not to sure about llama either. I feel like llama could just be really busy and thats why he hasn't been active like his normal self so it really hard for me to say at this point . If I had to vote right now it would probably for Black Rock . Her vote for Dom seemed kinda strange to me and out of no where .

Why don't you want to see me lynched? What about my play makes you think it's a civvie? I'm just curious. I find the fact that now at least three people (DF, you, and FZ.) have said I seem civvie interesting.

With Llama, that could be the case, but could it not also be the case for BR?

Why do you think the scenario you described is the case for Llama but not BR?

MovingPictures07 wrote:That's the second time now you've said something now where it sounds like you're coming from a non civvie perspective.

I have no clue whether I'm just reading into your statements too much or whether there's something to that observation.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Meh, not really feeling Rox anymore, and it feels weird having my vote on her...

I'm switching to Bass to get him to talk.