The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:53 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:45 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:57 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:36 am [VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

I don't actually plan on dying.

i'm not going to say that this is a wolftell but i have literally never seen a "I Have No Intentions Of Dying Today"-esque post that didn't come from a wolf

Do you have any other evidence for this?

I have no evidence of anything, but I do find that comment a bit suspect from a tone standpoint. It sort of sounds like forced assertiveness.

I was asking spf, but thanks.

I don't like her comment because it's an accusation without the insinuated basis.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:52 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:26 am In my experience, Long Con has displayed irritation when suspected either way, but the form of the irritation may be distinct. When he's mafia, the irritation is a more overt kind of rage, like someone railing against an offensive that truly threatens him. When's he's town, the irritation is a more sarcastic dismissal of everyone else, like they and the entire game of Mafia itself are all nonsense that should be treated like nonsense.

I don't know that I see much irritation at this point though.

I don't remember LC being that irritated when he was mafia in MtG

LC was irritated as mafia in Bike. But he was also irritated as town in Fallout.

I copped Nanook N0

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:57 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:36 am [VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

I don't actually plan on dying.

i'm not going to say that this is a wolftell but i have literally never seen a "I Have No Intentions Of Dying Today"-esque post that didn't come from a wolf

Do you have any other evidence for this?

Alright, spf can be town.

Oh right, this is a mafia game about a TV show named Fargo.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:36 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:34 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:04 am Not only am I mafia, but I am on all of the mafia teams.

@TonyStarkPrime this sounds like Simone Gerhardt

Y’ain’t wrong

What is this?

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

I don't actually plan on dying.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:15 am marmot, when you get the chance, do you mind quickly breaking down your reads for me? just hearing your view of the game rn would be helpful for me

Sure. I'm about to go to bed, but here's where I'm at.

I think some of the players who are steering the thread and maintaining a cohesive, team-oriented approach are town. This includes JJJ and Sloonei. There are probably other such active players that I haven't had the chance to interact with, but these two are standouts.

Tutuu has been high activity, but low commitment to her reads, I don't think there's much sincerity behind it. I can dig into it tomorrow to see if I still feel that way.

I've already explained my read of you. Some good posts. One icky post.

Nanook is in a slightly similar boat, one post that I didn't care for, but overall has been fine. I expressed suspicion of him earlier, but when I think about it, I'd expect more slanking from him as mafia.

TSP and Bo I think are town due to volume and content. Bo in particular seems extremely comfortable and fluid here to an extent that I've never seen from himn, and he's been the Day 1 yeet in multiple recent games.


These are the players that have stood out to me thus far. Thanks for asking, this was a useful exercise for me too

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:13 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:10 am im shaking my hips irl rn at the prospect of getting townread no cap

are you playing mafia standing up

Did you know if you sit forward in your chair while squatting on your feet, you increase your reasoning capabilities by 40%?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:09 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:07 am Now I wanna try.

tututututowntututuuutowntutututututownttutuututt

OIOIOIIROTIIJTIRIIOTITOTIIITITITITIRRIRIRIRIROITITT I LOVE YOUUHHU I POBEEEEE I LOOOOOOOOOVE YOUUUUUU I LOOOOOOOOVE YOOYOOYOOMSOL BABBYNMARMOT AMSOLEKKEK

u know how cats love to get scratched above their butts im the same when u townread me yesssss yesssss ilyyyyyyyy kisssssssssssssssss

I'll remember this forever! Anytime you're feeling down I'll give you a townread

Sloonei is town and I'm having PTSD

Now I wanna try.

tututututowntututuuutowntutututututownttutuututt

Not only am I mafia, but I am on all of the mafia teams.

I also hosted a game a few years ago with 12 players, but 3 mafia teams.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:35 am Throwback to Game of Thrones Maphia on RYM where every player was a member of a “mafia” faction.

How the heck did that play out?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:27 pm i hardclaim jester

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:19 pm If this ends up being multiple mafia teams and all of this Day 0/1 hunt has been fundamentally broken, I'm going to riot.

There are 4 mafia teams.

RIP JJJJ

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:00 pm @everyone: tutuu is mafia.

Agree or disagree?

Agree

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:28 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:54 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:52 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:38 pm My slow prodding catch up is done. I am here and mostly up to date on the happenings. But the thread is dead. I need real time interactions. I crave real time interactions. Somebody step out of the shadows and keep me company.

I'm around

Who are your strongest town reads in the game so far?

JJJ, Mac, BK, yourself

You listed me twice.

Can you substantiate that Bo read? I want to agree with it, but I'm having trouble articulating a reason.

I don't see how JJJ, BK, Mac, and you is listing you twice, but whatever.


BKs posting is light and easy, stress free. I think he'd be more focused on appearing solvey if he randed scum (again). It's like a weight's taken off his shoulders not having to scum again.

These are the same vibes I've felt on BK this game.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:48 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:44 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:38 pm Can you expand your thoughts on Odd, and Straw please?

My read on Oddmerta is a bit of a product of my other reads. A lot of my town reads have to be wrong about Oddmerta for him to be mafia, and I don't think he's that suspicious myself anyway. If one of my town reads that has vouched for Oddmerta ends up mafia, perhaps that'll be something to revisit later. For now I'm fine with him.

Strawhenge is probably the easiest read on the board for me. His posts radiate the purity of a player returning after five years away from Mafia with a town role card, uncertainty about how to get into business, and an admirable motor to do it anyway.

I'm a huge fan of the Odd reasoning tbh. It reminds me of synthetic CDOs. You're betting (reading) on other peoples reads and hoping it all falls in place. Is there anything in Odds content that makes you believe he's town?

I do agree with this. I also think if Straw randed wolf in his first game back in five years he would be playing a little more conservative and not sticking out his neck like he did earlier today.

What's a CDO?

This game needs a Kyle

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:10 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:06 pm finished my exam... jays are making me mad... what's going on

This post is sure to spark some confusion, so let me point out that BoKnows is probably talking about the Toronto Blue Jays, and not JaggedJimmyJay.

Thanks, I actually did think he was referring to JJJ as JayJayJay in some way

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:22 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:20 am I know JJJ has this thing for maintaining a certain thread state, but it still irks me.

Jay is quite very town.

:audible fart noise:

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:19 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:57 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:59 pm This game feels like Jay and I are mafia teammates. I wonder if anyone has made that observation yet.

I think a majority of scum rn is active

What's the point of this post if the following is your readlist?

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:37 pm Falcon-town
2. Tedextr-towny, lacking
4. Odd-fine but needs to make actual content
5. Sloonei-whatever
7. Strawhenge-town
8. JaggedJimmyJay-town
9. Staypositivefriend-town
10. KZA-probably town
11. MacDougall-probably town
13. Marmot-no thoughts
14. TSP-scummy
15. Long Con-no thoughts
16. Fingersplints-towny
17. Tutuu-playing different to her scum game from when I've seen her twice but in a way that is more scummy so idk what to think exactly
18. JPIC-whatever
19. Michelle-town
20. Alison-null
21. BoKnows-towny
22. Al Sama-scummy

I legit have no clue what you're attempting to say with this

Why did you say that the majority of mafia are among the active players, but post a readlist where all most of the active players are townreads or something that isn't a scumread?

I know JJJ has this thing for maintaining a certain thread state, but it still irks me.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:45 pm she's way more scummy than her previous scum games. Which I'm fine just saying mafia, but I've not seen her play town so I'm not completely sure how to approach that. I generally read her outside of that as scummy

Technically you saw her as town in 8-Ball for all of one day

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:12 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:34 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:12 pm

Dude I don't start with your alignment and you are capable of randing mafia so what do you mean? I am supposed to just not attempt to solve you?

You do not need to assume I am mafia.

I am not. I am waiting for you to do something that proves you are town.

I am speaking generally, across all the games. This one is included, though.

It's whatever man. Just play the game.

How do you have 127 posts? I've not been around for a single one.

Yeah we haven't had a chance to butt heads yet have we.

You seem more relaxed this game from what posts I have seen in my catchup

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:14 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:03 am @Marmot could you elaborate on those nanook and tutuu reads?

Tutuu's been an active presence in the thread, but changing her reads on a whim.

Nanook said he's not going to read JJJ until Day 3-4, but he's made multiple posts like [url[https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 91#p760791]this one[/url] and this one that look like mild attempts at shade.

I believe the second one is the opposite of shade. Someone (esooa?) had made the argument that Jay was "tryharding" and that that meant he was mafia. Nanook was shooting that down, I think.

I see that now. I noticed the first one when I was reading the thread earlier, but spotted the second one when searching his iso for it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:08 am that game frustrated the shit out of me too, tbf

I believe you. That game seemed to break you to the point where you could do nothing else but townread everyone.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:03 am @Marmot could you elaborate on those nanook and tutuu reads?

Tutuu's been an active presence in the thread, but changing her reads on a whim.

Nanook said he's not going to read JJJ until Day 3-4, but he's made multiple posts like [url[https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 91#p760791]this one[/url] and this one that look like mild attempts at shade.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:29 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:22 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:13 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:10 pm Marmot should be where I am right now but instead I'm playing marmot and marmot is gone

ok in between where I was reading this and then this marmot showed back up but this remains true

Why should Marmot be where you're at right now? Translate

in all of the games I've played with Marmot recently where he was town, he took the position of a high posting contrarian. in fallout he got into a big fight with sloonei etc.. In this game, on the other hand, he's posted rather little (that can be explained by other factors) and while in the thread largely followed the town leaders as far as I can tell. This strikes me as off.

i felt like i was the instigator in my Big Fight with Marmot.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:57 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:54 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:17 pm My list of 9 goes as such, and I will only expand on a player when asked/prompted.


Alison, Al Sam, nanook, tutuu, LC, Marmot, Ted, Michelle TSP

All of them please.

How would you rank those 9 names?

I can't rank them because I have no read on several of them, but the ones that I do have input on:


Nanook - slight scum
tutuu - slight scum
TSP - town

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:57 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:57 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:29 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:28 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:27 am [VOTE: Oddmerta] aubergine

What are you doing?

Playing Fargo Mafia... What are you doing?

Lol I dont like this post. I do like Oddmerta here tho.

Oddmerta's behavior here isn't anything to write home about

I agree but what do you stand to gain from this comment

I'm interested in why Mac liked Oddmerta over such a simple statement.

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:59 pm This game feels like Jay and I are mafia teammates. I wonder if anyone has made that observation yet.

I think a majority of scum rn is active

What's the point of this post if the following is your readlist?

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:37 pm Falcon-town
2. Tedextr-towny, lacking
4. Odd-fine but needs to make actual content
5. Sloonei-whatever
7. Strawhenge-town
8. JaggedJimmyJay-town
9. Staypositivefriend-town
10. KZA-probably town
11. MacDougall-probably town
13. Marmot-no thoughts
14. TSP-scummy
15. Long Con-no thoughts
16. Fingersplints-towny
17. Tutuu-playing different to her scum game from when I've seen her twice but in a way that is more scummy so idk what to think exactly
18. JPIC-whatever
19. Michelle-town
20. Alison-null
21. BoKnows-towny
22. Al Sama-scummy

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:17 pm My list of 9 goes as such, and I will only expand on a player when asked/prompted.


Alison, Al Sam, nanook, tutuu, LC, Marmot, Ted, Michelle TSP

All of them please.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:57 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:29 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:28 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:27 am [VOTE: Oddmerta] aubergine

What are you doing?

Playing Fargo Mafia... What are you doing?

Lol I dont like this post. I do like Oddmerta here tho.

Oddmerta's behavior here isn't anything to write home about

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:51 pm

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:04 pm @staypositivefriend

what do you think about the way your earlier voters moved off you

honestly there's way too much random posting rn that's so tangential I can't actually work through it atm and my current opinion is just lynch into them so I'm starting with tsp like mac suggested

plus he's been scummy

the entire dynamic surrounding me was bizarre - there was a large concentration of pressure/suspicion built primarily off of conjecture, and then the pressure completely evaporated when i gave the slightest pushback. i don't know what to make of it, to be honest

marmot was the person that i found the most suspicious during that entire dynamic - i felt that he jumped in to make a post that signal boosted the suspicion against me (and tutuu) without actually showing an interest in finding a wolf between us

You're one of the few players I'd paid attention to because it was recommended (by JJJ I think) that I iso you. I thought you showed equity for either alignment, I just hadn't really posted as such until after I saw tutuu's handling of you.

The game is dynamic and I'm looking at other players too. Why do you expect me to focus on you and tutuu?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:02 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:58 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

What moved you?

i no longer felt comfortable with my vote on fingersplints, and the concerns that i had about marmot yesterday have not been alleviated in the slightest by his posting today.. i got the impression that he may have been trying to play up the dichotomy of tutuu/myself

I had mild suspicions of both of you, and then you starting butting heads, or at least tutuu starting calling you scum. That's when I happened to voice said suspicions.

But of course tutuu's back to townreading you (as of this post of yours), which is also my qualm with her.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:12 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:18 pm

Still yet to see anything from you that feels remotely challenging to scumread. Where's the casing brah? Where's the champ?

It is counterproductive to do this every game.

Dude I don't start with your alignment and you are capable of randing mafia so what do you mean? I am supposed to just not attempt to solve you?

You do not need to assume I am mafia.

I am not. I am waiting for you to do something that proves you are town.

I am speaking generally, across all the games. This one is included, though.

It's whatever man. Just play the game.

How do you have 127 posts? I've not been around for a single one.

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:22 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:21 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm My only experience of marmot is that he is silly when mafia and pretty serious when town. My sample size is only three games so I acknowledge i need more data.

This is true based on the one game I saw him as Mafia

Which game was that?

Shadow Corridors

he was known as Thundercat, some sort of villainous alter ego of his I'm sure

Side note, since you bring this up. I wonder if @BoKnows ever realized he and I were teammates in that game.

Thundercat is a slappin bassist.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:16 pm My only experience of marmot is that he is silly when mafia and pretty serious when town. My sample size is only three games so I acknowledge i need more data.

I've realized this as well and am attempting to make them more consistent.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Yes?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:53 pm The last couple of pages make this game feel chaotic. That's not my favorite thing. Still, I think we're okay. I am personally going to take a step back now and incubate on the game. Being away from the thread helps to find equilibrium and sort one's true feelings in the absence of emotion-evoking new posts. If anyone else feels similarly about the state of the game thread, I encourage you to do the same for a little while (but not too long).

We're gonna be fine. We just have to tend to our garden a bit. Someone's gonna punch me in the face one day for the goofy zen things I say in Mafia games.

get that voltaire outta here

Voltaire is a pokemon right?

bbl, I have bread to bake and other life things to attend to

I prefer some amount of chaos and you can't take it from me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:53 pm The last couple of pages make this game feel chaotic. That's not my favorite thing. Still, I think we're okay. I am personally going to take a step back now and incubate on the game. Being away from the thread helps to find equilibrium and sort one's true feelings in the absence of emotion-evoking new posts. If anyone else feels similarly about the state of the game thread, I encourage you to do the same for a little while (but not too long).

We're gonna be fine. We just have to tend to our garden a bit. Someone's gonna punch me in the face one day for the goofy zen things I say in Mafia games.

Well what the heck do you want from us Chief?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:48 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:48 pm I think tutuu and spf are both scummy, but I'm having trouble with a world where they're teammates.

why is tutuu scummy? why am i scummy? can you break down both of those reads for me?

Some of your posts I've read I've felt good about the explanations. But there are other posts like this one where you used the word "particularly" more times than necessary, which I didn't like.

There was another thing I saw in your ISO yesterday that I'm forgetting atm.

My concern about tutuu is that she's been all over the place, playing a cute version of Mac's spew shit and see what sticks meta, and it's one that he replicates pretty well as mafia.

I think tutuu and spf are both scummy, but I'm having trouble with a world where they're teammates.