The Syndicate

Shrugs are the new adverbs.

Matt wrote:Vote MM

It's not what you do, MM, it's what you say!

Let us be lynched together!

a2thezebra wrote:
Ricochet wrote:All I hear is "gauge reactions", but that's missing the point. I caught zebra and b24 red handed. I accept their attempts to defend, of course, but I'm not quest for reactions per se.
Your claiming this makes you look even worse.

Do not accept defeat.

Draconus wrote:
Matt wrote:Zeebs - Yeah I was joking. Kind of. But fair enough. Now I'm interested, though, what are your non PC views?

Rico - So no answer then?

I think we can all agree that Metalmarsh has to go. Ten points to anyone who can tell me why.
Because he's the real Day 1 policy lynch

Agreed (but that doesn't mean I'll be lynched).

Matt wrote:
Draconus wrote:
Matt wrote:Zeebs - Yeah I was joking. Kind of. But fair enough. Now I'm interested, though, what are your non PC views?

Rico - So no answer then?

I think we can all agree that Metalmarsh has to go. Ten points to anyone who can tell me why.
Because he's the real Day 1 policy lynch
Zoinks!

But nah, not it.

Ten point offer still out there.

Why is Metalmarsh the baddest bad in all of the land? He will most def receive my vote Day one.

Rico - So still no answer then?

I didn't do anything.

Better to be tested than testy! Thankfully I'm not being testified against, nor do I have testicularitis.

a2thezebra wrote:Rico, you are a comedic genius this game. You've got everyone pegged before the first day.

Not me.

He even excluded me from his rainbow list. I am unpinnable!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:LoRab and llama have not butted heads over who is the better writer and poster.

confirmed fishy
I think I'm cool with lynching llama first. I hope I don't forget by the time I have to vote.
Which team do you think he is on?
I dunno dude, maybe the bad one. One of the bad ones?

I guess I'll do a thing where I talk about his posts or something.

Well that is a response alright.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:LoRab and llama have not butted heads over who is the better writer and poster.

confirmed fishy
I think I'm cool with lynching llama first. I hope I don't forget by the time I have to vote.

Which team do you think he is on?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Maybe we should quote the entire thing again.
How do you currently feel about being red on multiple rainbow lists?
I care so much less than I have cared in years. It's a liberating feeling. I don't think I've done anything remotely suspicious, but I'm probably biased, yanno? I'm me.

I know that feeling.

I will also add that rainbow lists are crocks of s*** right now anyway.

Spoiler: show

I don't want anymore tests Mettaton!

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Maybe we should quote the entire thing again.

How do you currently feel about being red on multiple rainbow lists?

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Fixed.

Ricochet wrote:Update #tree

Turnip Head

Ricochet

thellama73

DharmaHelper

DharmaHelper

MacDougall

Epignosis

Hamburger Boy

Bass_the_Clever

Boomslang

Spacedaisy

RadicalFuzz

dfaraday

LoRab

Sorsha

nijuukyugou

Ricochet

Juliets

Draconus

Dom

sig

JaggedJimmyJay

Matt

Tranq

Golden

Timmer

Elohcin

Dr. Wilgy

Black Rock

Long Con

a2thezebra

bcornett24

DharmaHelper

I am missing, and you listed yourself as red.

New Day 1 lynch priority.

We should lynch Golden, Metalmarsh89, Turnip Head, and Boomslang all at the same time.

a2thezebra wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:Turnip Head
Echoed.

Turnip Head
Epi's next on the chopping block, he posted RIGHT AFTER TURNIP HEAD DID!!!!!!!!!11!!1!!1!!!

Omg, you posted after Epignosis did!

You're going down Day 3.

a2thezebra wrote:Turnip Head

Echoed.

Turnip Head

Ricochet wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I posted "this is madness" because I had yet to catch up with the thread at that time but I still wanted to make my presence known.

Yes, you posted that because you had yet to catch up and wanted to make your presence known.

b24 also posted because he had yet to catch up and wanted to make your presence known.

It's called teamie coordination.

zeebz: Hey brian, let's go catch up on the mafia game.

brians: OK zeebz, I'm not caught up either (but posting in BTSC anyway).

zeebz: I have a great idea, let's state our intent to catch up before we do it.

brians: Good plan, you go first, I'll follow up in exactly 22 minutes and 17 seconds later.

zeebz: Fist bump broh!

Is this how you imagined it?

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Why yes! It means I don't believe in your accusation.

"Buddies Ricochet" is a post that I believe is a joke, and shouldn't be used against her.

Linki: Friendship is the theme of this Night 0.
It disproves she was adversarial off the bat in this game, so it should totally be used against her.

She said she is often adversarial right off the bat.

I guess it could be true, depending on your definitions of "often" and "right off the bat". But luckily we don't need dictionaries anymore to define our words, since we can let our own minds create new definitions. Thus, yours and my understandings of this statement could be totally different!

Ricochet wrote:
MetalMarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
LoRab wrote:So that's 2 (I think, may have missed another) folks who have said they were one of the roles named in the prior game. Perhaps the game roles are the roles that people had in the game in which they won? Not necessarily the same powers/alignments (I'm still not necessarily thinking these are the same) but the same role names? Can anyone else say if they were one of the roles in this poll?
In case you really don't remember the Champies mechanics in previous years (which I doubt, but whatever), then it is near certain the roles (characters) in this game are a mashup of roles (characters) that appeared in the games played throughout 2015.

Just like you, I don't believe that means every role will necessarily have exactly the same power they were designed with in their original game. I'm less sure about alignments, because I don't remember roles being converted to an opposite alignment compared to their original one in previous Champies. Then again, it all depends on how wicked our Hosts this year can be in design- oh wait so that's like 200% possible. Heh.

One other thing you asked above and I want to answer to is that the roles imported in this game are not necessarily the roles with which players have won in previous game. For instance, Ezekiel, Xander Crews and Watari were civilian roles in games in which the civilians did not win. So while we are champions fighting it off based on having won games, the roles don't necessarily follow the same rule.
Mac says that Idaho is a civ role.

Also Finn was a civilian sympathizer.
Dunno where you're getting at, but ok. Mac won Dune, right? Don't recall Finn, but civs won Cars too, overall.[/url]

I think I misunderstood your intent. I thought you were declaring that Ezekiel, Xander, and Watari were the only civ roles in the poll.

Ricochet wrote:
MetalMarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I get a rush of energy when I elaborate on what I believe to be opportunistic behavior. If you've seen me in any game ever for even a day, you know this. Doesn't mean I'm good, but it also doesn't mean you rustled anyone's jimmies. Get off your high horse. Nice continued lack of defense to a legitimate and shared suspicion by the way.
Surely you wouldn't be this adversarial off the bat if there wasn't an underlying intention. You are posting like a parody of yourself right now.
Dios mio, a warranted suspicion! You're still wrong however, quite often I am adversarial off the bat. In fact if I'm a parody of myself right now then I'm a parody of myself in every game I've ever played. Which might very well be the truth.
"Quite often I am adversarial off the bat".

First real post of the game:

"*buddies Ricochet*"

Heavy artilleries there, m8.
I'm over it.
Is there any point to this comment?

Why yes! It means I don't believe in your accusation.

"Buddies Ricochet" is a post that I believe is a joke, and shouldn't be used against her.

Linki: Friendship is the theme of this Night 0.

a2thezebra wrote:
Ricochet wrote:How am I a suck civilian. I just caught Black Rock, Long Con, zebra and b24 on Night Zero. Possibly timmer, too, I'll have to assess him further.

Ricochet wrote:I just caught Black Rock, Long Con, zebra and b24 on Night Zero. Possibly timmer, too, I'll have to assess him further.

Ricochet wrote:Black Rock, Long Con, zebra and b24 on Night Zero. Possibly timmer

Ricochet wrote:Black Rock, Long Con, zebra and b24

Ricochet wrote:zebra and b24

Ricochet wrote:b24
That's it, you're trolling. This is pure unadulterated WIFOM. Civilian Rico does not believe that b24 is actually "caught" by a connection with me that can only be described as abysmal and can only be justified as being posted in the first place for the sole purpose of reaction-gauging, NOR does mafia Rico believe that this act will actually convince anyone that they're putting in an honest scum-hunting effort while claiming that b24 is caught for the very same reason. So, we're left with WIFOM. And when in doubt with WIFOM, it's coming from a baddie.

You know what's interesting about this whole thing?

1) The post Ricochet was talking about wasn't even your first post of the game. This one was.
2) Matt posted far closer to you in terms of time frame, but Ricochet never mentions Matt.

a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote: I'd like to grind this negative interaction to a halt because I'm a little bit over 200 post arguments with people I actually don't have scum reads on (see Golden vs. Mac, Star Wars). I've seen enough out of you to change my tune.
Works for me, but I have to address this:

MacDougall wrote:Post lots and you'll live longer.
For you, and for many people, this is true to an extent. For me, helllllll no. I got as far as I did in Star Wars by the skin of my teeth and a shit-ton of luck. When I speak my mind and play a strictly genuine game - regardless of my alignment - you can guarantee that I will be lynched (not night-killed, LYNCHED) by Day 3. So I don't do that anymore - regardless of my alignment. People think my observations and conclusions are either too strange to be town-motivated or outright fake. They just do. So my mafia persona has incorporated much more deceit and much more manipulation then when I started out. For me, this is a necessity to survive. I NEVER coast, because I simply can't. It's not in me to be a minimal poster, I'm not synchronized with everyone else enough to state my mind 24/7, and I can't even coast with sheer posting magnitude because even when I keep certain things from others there's still enough posts where someone will call me out on something by reading it the wrong way. Even when I AM bad I'm more often than not read as bad for incorrect reasons, such as misinterpreting my intentions or thinking that my activity is effected by my alignment when it literally never is. That makes the game fun and challenging for me, but I have never coasted in any game ever.

To be fair, I think I have only ever voted for you once, and that was in a game where I was bad, and it was still a joke vote on Day 1.

So I can wash my hands of this.

DrWilgy wrote:Daily reminder: Lynch Fuzz

Hello everyone!

Hello Dr Wilgy. It is currently still a pleasure to play in this Champions Game with you.

Would you like a cup of tea? :tea:

Ricochet wrote:I see a winning option has been strengthened in votes. That is very good.

Epignosis wrote:My top suspect is Sorsha. I found her Ricochet comment superfluous and without adding anything to the conversation (not that the bar was set real high).
My suspect #14 is Epignosis, for not letting players comment on me and suspect me as they please.

He is also my suspect #10 for not sending me a copy of his third album.

Aren't you also telling players to

a2thezebra wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Zebra is confirmed caught, I have not much else to add.

I'm bad-reading you pretty damn hard right now and even I wouldn't go nearly as far as to call you "confirmed caught." Your feigned confidence is so transparent. Saying you already know Golden's role and all this gobbledy-gook here. I'm glad when I first called you out as faking it I put the word effort in seven quotation marks.

You should only confirm that I'm top civ and work on your concession speach instead, tbh.[/quote]
]read you as top civ?

Ricochet wrote:
LoRab wrote:So that's 2 (I think, may have missed another) folks who have said they were one of the roles named in the prior game. Perhaps the game roles are the roles that people had in the game in which they won? Not necessarily the same powers/alignments (I'm still not necessarily thinking these are the same) but the same role names? Can anyone else say if they were one of the roles in this poll?
In case you really don't remember the Champies mechanics in previous years (which I doubt, but whatever), then it is near certain the roles (characters) in this game are a mashup of roles (characters) that appeared in the games played throughout 2015.

Just like you, I don't believe that means every role will necessarily have exactly the same power they were designed with in their original game. I'm less sure about alignments, because I don't remember roles being converted to an opposite alignment compared to their original one in previous Champies. Then again, it all depends on how wicked our Hosts this year can be in design- oh wait so that's like 200% possible. Heh.

One other thing you asked above and I want to answer to is that the roles imported in this game are not necessarily the roles with which players have won in previous game. For instance, Ezekiel, Xander Crews and Watari were civilian roles in games in which the civilians did not win. So while we are champions fighting it off based on having won games, the roles don't necessarily follow the same rule.

Mac says that Idaho is a civ role.

Also Finn was a civilian sympathizer.

Ricochet wrote:Yes, I am flooding the thread, why do you ask!

I'm not in the mood to update my rainbow list this morning, the version that MM corrected is fairly accurate.

Lulz

Golden wrote:
LoRab wrote:So that's 2 (I think, may have missed another) folks who have said they were one of the roles named in the prior game. Perhaps the game roles are the roles that people had in the game in which they won? Not necessarily the same powers/alignments (I'm still not necessarily thinking these are the same) but the same role names? Can anyone else say if they were one of the roles in this poll?
It was LoRabs theory.

I realize this is a closed setup, but I disagree with this theory being true for reasons.

Ricochet wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I get a rush of energy when I elaborate on what I believe to be opportunistic behavior. If you've seen me in any game ever for even a day, you know this. Doesn't mean I'm good, but it also doesn't mean you rustled anyone's jimmies. Get off your high horse. Nice continued lack of defense to a legitimate and shared suspicion by the way.
Surely you wouldn't be this adversarial off the bat if there wasn't an underlying intention. You are posting like a parody of yourself right now.
Dios mio, a warranted suspicion! You're still wrong however, quite often I am adversarial off the bat. In fact if I'm a parody of myself right now then I'm a parody of myself in every game I've ever played. Which might very well be the truth.
"Quite often I am adversarial off the bat".

First real post of the game:

"*buddies Ricochet*"

Heavy artilleries there, m8.

I'm over it.

MacDougall wrote:Yes Ricochet is most certainly bullshitting hard. This is not my beautiful Ricochet.

This is a beautiful statement.

Also, Ricochet has been shrugging his shoulders when accused of bullshitting. Ohmygoodness, suchwildandlameaccusations.

Epignosis wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Lorab is my number 2 suspect. She is too comfortable.
I should clarify on this. A lot of people are saying "yep, she's like her, sounding like her, doing her twirly thing."

She cracks under pressure.

So somebody apply pressure. Now.

You're the pressure cooker. I'm just a toaster oven.

Well that sure put a damper on the ol' chattery.

I am Ryuk. Discuss.

Watari has a mustache.

Also, Watari is comparable to Batman's Alfred, except that Watari is more awesomer.

Linki: I said probably.

a2thezebra wrote:State your case, MM.

Ezekiel is probably dead.

Xander Crews is an asshat.

Finn is a Spy, and cannot be trusted.

I have no idea who Duncan Idaho is (but Idaho is pretty cool).

Watari has a mustache.

Matt wrote:We're the only ones who voted Duncan, Zeebs.

Elohcin wrote:
Golden wrote:
Elohcin wrote:haha, that wasn't Epi, sorry DH.. You're not stupid.
Thank goodness it wasn't Epi, otherwise you'd have to ask why he can't tell Simon and Abigail apart.
I saw the transcript in linki and assumed it was Epi that wrote it. I didn't actually READ the thing. But I would understand him not knowing the difference. Abigail and Ephraim sound a lot alike sometimes.

Epignosis wrote:My top suspect is Sorsha. I found her Ricochet comment superfluous and without adding anything to the conversation (not that the bar was set real high).
My top suspect is Ricochet. But I think I suspected him early on in the last game we played together and I was wrong. I can't remember. Damn memory. I'd love to have Epi's memory, but then I might have to give up my common sense and ability to clean in exchange for it and I wouldn't want to do that. Haha...we had a new heating and AC unit put in today and the man putting it in was going to clean up after himself. He asked Epi for a broom and Epi had no clue where it was kept.

You are so correct.

Transcript:

Spoiler: show

DharmaHelper wrote:

TRANSCRIPT TO PROVE I AM NOT A CHEATER:

Owen Wilson: Wow. I'm Owen Wilson, star of such films as Night at the Museum, Shanghai Noon with my good friend Jackie Chan and I'm here to tell you that...vocaroo...is a legitmate form of posting and not to let anyone tell you any different, wow.

Me: Gee thanks for that Jac...erm...Owen. Really appreciate you stopping by.

Owen: Wow, not a problem. Anytime. Wow.

Owen Wilson is not a role in this game.

Neither is Randy Newman.

Just remember what your old pal said.

Black Rock wrote:
Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Boomslang is bad. Discuss.
If everyone agrees to lynch Golden, Boomslang, and Matt on Day 1, do you think the hosts will let us?
I only agree to this plan if Metalmarsh is included.
Or we could just lynch Metalmarsh and be done with it.

What's a Syndicate game if I'm not lynched Day 1 and you aren't killed Night 1?

Linki: Not really. His statement was accurate, since no other Game of Champions Night 0 has been more lame than this one.

Epignosis wrote:Lamest Game of Champions Night 0 ever.

That's acceptable, since this is the first ever (and thus only) Game of Champions Night 0. :P

Fixed.

Ricochet wrote:Update #tree

Metalmarsh89

MacDougall

DharmaHelper

thellama73

DharmaHelper

Epignosis

a2thezebra

Hamburger Boy

Bass_the_Clever

Boomslang

bcornett24

Spacedaisy

RadicalFuzz

dfaraday

LoRab

Sorsha

nijuukyugou

Ricochet

Juliets

Draconus

Dom

sig

JaggedJimmyJay

Matt

Tranq

Golden

Timmer

Elohcin

Dr. Wilgy

Black Rock

Long Con

DharmaHelper

Linki: Guess again, MacDougall.

Golden wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Boomslang is bad. Discuss.
If everyone agrees to lynch Golden, Boomslang, and Matt on Day 1, do you think the hosts will let us?
I only agree to this plan if Metalmarsh is included.

You already know where my vote's going on Day 1.

MacDougall wrote:Boomslang is bad. Discuss.

If everyone agrees to lynch Golden, Boomslang, and Matt on Day 1, do you think the hosts will let us?

Turnip Head is lurking. He is also bad

MacDougall wrote:
Golden wrote:@DH - the answer to your question is that I try and maintain a duality about what could be going on so that I don't close my mind. Sure, I may suspect mac, but if he is town (as I noted in that post) I know he is truthful when he says he has good day one instincts. It's not useful for me to shut out the concept of Mac being good and to think about the implications of that, just because I have a suspicion of him.

Is your conclusion on rico that you agree with my suspicion, or just that you can explain why I do better than me?
Note. Golden completely shut out the concept of me being good in previous game and I was. Golden is evolving!

Or he's badder than a pile of wet fish guts.

Ricochet wrote:
Draconus wrote: Lorab: I went after her in A World Reborn for the exact reason people are looking at her now. I regretted it. Nuf said.
BOTD'ing someone simply because of patterns repeating themselves? Hmm.

*checks how low on the red scale Draconus was placed*

not low enough, it seems

linki:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I was ready to open all of these up and hate them, but I ended up liking them.
Maybe the same thing will happen when you record yourself.
Worst idea ever.
You sound like GLaDOS.
Copying what others say, hmm?

Confirmed DH teamie.

Well lookie there, Golden said the same thing I did.

To be fair, he said it in OT green.

Ricochet wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I was ready to open all of these up and hate them, but I ended up liking them.
Maybe the same thing will happen when you record yourself.
Worst idea ever.

You sound like GLaDOS.

Rainbow List?

I think we should force Golden to resign.

I think you've mistaken llama for a camel.

timmer wrote:Oh, and I picked Xander Crews. I hope if that role is in the game that whoever has it finds more luck than I did with it. I never found a single xticle or whatever the hell they were.

It didn't help that I was lynched Day 1 with 3 flippin' votes.

Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Elo and Metalmarsh made their first posts at very near to the same time. Discuss.
Are they having an affair?

Coincidence, MacDingus.
I was being sarcastic Epi. Did you see the posts they quoted.
I didn't even notice that.
Theory: baddies don't have to read the thread as thoroughly as Civvies. Converse.

Harumph!

I will exhibit a behavior this game that has not been previously imagined by any mafia player ever (including myself).

Hold on to your butts!

RadicalFuzz wrote:To clarify, I'm intentionally going to play differently than my previous game on this site. If that rouses suspicion then that's perfectly fine, but I'm vetoing any future "he's been acting strange" paths here and now.

You are acting strange.

MacDougall wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Elo and Metalmarsh made their first posts at very near to the same time. Discuss.
Are they having an affair?

Coincidence, MacDingus.
I was being sarcastic Epi. Did you see the posts they quoted.

I didn't even notice that.

MacDougall wrote:Elo and Metalmarsh made their first posts at very near to the same time. Discuss.

Epignosis spends too much time at band practice.

DharmaHelper wrote:Tranq posted but didn't vote. Mac voted but did not post. Discuss.

Scandalous.

Epignosis	Hamburger Boy	Bass_the_Clever
Boomslang	Spacedaisy	RadicalFuzz
dfaraday	LoRab	Sorsha	nijuukyugou
Ricochet	Juliets	Draconus	Dom
sig	JaggedJimmyJay	Matt	Tranq
Golden	Timmer	Elohcin	Dr. Wilgy

Epignosis	a2thezebra	Hamburger Boy	Bass_the_Clever
Boomslang	bcornett24	Spacedaisy	RadicalFuzz
dfaraday	LoRab	Sorsha	nijuukyugou
Ricochet	Juliets	Draconus	Dom
sig	JaggedJimmyJay	Matt	Tranq
Golden	Timmer	Elohcin	Dr. Wilgy
Black Rock	Long Con	DharmaHelper

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