The Syndicate

I should have been more direct in explaining that Epi and I were Masons. That Day 2 yeet was just out of control, and I understand why people thought that I was protecting/saving Epi from the yeet.

I didn't want to yeet ted at all, but I did have to vote to save Epi, so I did.

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:54 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:53 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:52 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:51 pm ted is a miss too
Crap, I've been calling her a dude!
rookie mistake
But in your profile it says Male

The joke is that Urist used the word "miss" as in "mistress".

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:51 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:49 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:47 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:46 pm @Long Con what do you think of ted?
Has he done anything blatantly suspicious today? I still have him as a townread.

Can you point out where? I searched your ISO and you talked about ted a lot, but I couldn't find a read.
If that's the case then I may be mixing up games.

You and ted aren't playing any other games together lol

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:47 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:46 pm @Long Con what do you think of ted?
Has he done anything blatantly suspicious today? I still have him as a townread.

Can you point out where? I searched your ISO and you talked about ted a lot, but I couldn't find a read.

@Long Con what do you think of ted?

[VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

I want no mana Enrique, my role is silly

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:24 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:21 pm @Jackofhearts2005 why are you still voting Epignosis?

@falcon45ca do you still believe that Epi/Guillo are w/w and did this public dance for towncred?
I don't do shit for town cred. Smarten up.

I'm not convinced they're both town, and I still can't see why Epi would do that with his mana...does he not need mana for his own artifact?
Try again.

I didn't say you did something for towncred. I was referencing the post where you accused Guillo/Epi doing this stunt for towncred.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:23 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:21 pm @Jackofhearts2005 why are you still voting Epignosis?

@falcon45ca do you still believe that Epi/Guillo are w/w and did this public dance for towncred?
I don't do shit for town cred. Smarten up.

I'm not convinced they're both town, and I still can't see why Epi would do that with his mana...does he not need mana for his own artifact?

Try again.

@Jackofhearts2005 why are you still voting Epignosis?

@falcon45ca do you still believe that Epi/Guillo are w/w and did this public dance for towncred?

@Jackofhearts2005 why are you still voting Epignosis?

@falcon45ca do you still believe that Epi/Guillo are w/w and did this public dance for towncred?

@hollowkatt, who would you yeet today aside from ted?

@MacDougall what's your better wagon?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:55 pm I have zero interest in any of these wagons: Falcon, Jack, JPIC, Mac, Marmot. Do something better with your votes sheesh
Make a fucking better one then

lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:50 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Can I help you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:49 pm Jack is obvious town

I mean I think so too, but he jumped on your case pretty quick and hasn't changed.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:40 pm People with no votes (not counting mine) that I don’t have a reason to townread: Wilgy, Dunya (arguable), Enrique, Falcon

People with votes that I do have a reason to townread: Marmot, Epi, Urist, JPic (arguable), Mac (arguable)

People with votes I don’t have a reason to townread: Ted

I’m sure I left somebody out but I loathe the current wagon formation.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:54 pm Actually, yeah, that shit does look pretty pockety.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:59 pm [VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Does Jack flip this easily on reads?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:39 pm Did Jack just drop a vote on Epi and dip?

And I'm not talking bean dip either.

Did Jack just drop a vote on Epi and dip?

cuz you a mississippi queen

Noooooo Guillooooooo, I'm town

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:24 pm
That is quite the disagreement to just brush over. Why x 2?

JPIC could go either way. I don't think chopping him today is the play. Need more into. Need a better chop. If he dies today its likely because he's town and mafia view him as a mischop.

I meant otherwise agreeable.

Mainly vibes for LC. Mainly some thing Urist did Day 1 that I didn't like but am forgetting about now.

Regardless, I'm happy to yeet 112.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:16 pm Jack, Kyle, HK, Urist would be my top town.

Guillo, Wilgy town lean.

Ted, Marmot, Dunya not out of their range.

112 and LC are quite scummy.

I have LC and Urist flip-flopped, but this is agreeable.

What about JPIC?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:19 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:00 pm I guess it takes Mac to push my Epi read for others to take notice
He is supposed to be a mafia god afterall.
Are you saying you agree with the read?

I think Epi's town, and Mac not paying attention doesn't change that.
Weird post considering I am trying. I can go back to giving zero fucks if you'd prefer

I know you're trying, there's just a lot going on.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:18 pm Marmot i want to lean a lil more town than Dunya and Ted but he's the devil.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:15 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:01 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:00 pm I guess it takes Mac to push my Epi read for others to take notice
He is supposed to be a mafia god afterall.
Are you saying you agree with the read?

I think Epi's town, and Mac not paying attention doesn't change that.

Kyle's dead Mac...

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:14 pm So if I am right zero mafia have votes on them atm. Which also makes sense.

Tell me it ain't so.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:08 pm I’m gonna [VOTE: falcon] aubergine btw.

Quick points before I settle down somehwere:
* Dunya brought up his vig claim. Where I’m at in my catch up he only brought it up as a joke (“I’ll kill you!” posts are classic ultraviolence-era Enrique-core), but I see that more recently he talked about damaging someone. I’m completely unconvinced.
* I talked about him being chaotic earlier. There was an entire page early on that was just him and Kyle discussing whether Kyle’s hotter than dunya. Then he decided Kyle wasn’t his friend for being too silly. It’s fairly minor but leaves a bad taste.
* I don’t want to lynch Ted or Urist. Epignosis I don’t really have an opinion on (I mostly remember two posts by him - one seemed really civ, it was maybe his first one, pointing out the silliness of falcon town-reading LC for reading the rules). If anyone I think JPIC is the better non-falcon option but his posts are pretty much nothing.
* Ted-three-lands-gate is a fake scandal (ik some of my town reads also pushed it but I still don’t like it).
* Is generally just all over the place. Some people he distrusts too easily, some he trusts for no apparent reason. His thought process is very hard for me to follow and I don’t think it’s organic.
* Super early on I thought he was really pushing for Jack and Bolas (separately) to each reveal their role. I actually have this as two separate notes and just noticed the connection. As far as I can tell he hasn’t been doing more of this since neither of them elaborated and faded into the background.

I don't remember that, but I got similar vibes in this post.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:29 am Epi, why would you give Guillo 6 mana? Was there a post he made that led you to believe he needed mana?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:05 pm JPIC is probably town just off a gamestate read tho.

Go read his iso, or at least today's.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 5:00 pm I guess it takes Mac to push my Epi read for others to take notice

He is supposed to be a mafia god afterall.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:50 pm Marmot, were you pretty sure of your PoE when you voted for Made and he got lynched? That was proven inaccurate, so where does this confidence come from?

The confidence comes from my townreads finding moments in the thread where they're townreading each other.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:44 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.

If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.
Sewing discord for scumreading you? ok pal

What do you think of my townreads? Do you disagree?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:39 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:14 pm My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.

If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.
What does this mean? Sounds like you're hedging a bit, and what do you mean "don't think today's the day that happens"? How on earth is a TP this confident in their reads?

What discord am I sewing amongst the players today?

I'm confident in the POE that I've established, and until it's proved inaccurate, I don't feel the need reconsider my strong townreads.

But to answer your question, it's posts like this. Instead of asking me to clarify or something like that, you're saying that I'm hedging and imo framing my post in a negative light and discrediting me.

dunya
Epignosis
Guillotine
hollowkatt
Jackofhearts2005
Long Con
DrWilgy
Enrique
MacDougall
tedxtr
Urist
falcon45ca
Justplayingitcool
112

This is my current rainbow. This time, yellow (Enrique) is null, whereas orange is middling (could go either way)

Must... find... scum...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:16 pm [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

@Enrique

Maybe. In total, I had 1 less mana yesterday than I needed to use my better power. So it would be out to use. That said, there’s a fair chance I got pity the fooled by the wolves yesterday because I asked for more mana so if you give it to me and the same gift and fool pittying happens again, I may be on my way to dying.

Legit, probably best to just give it to someone you townread and not have anyone volunteer power info.

(Though fool pitying isn’t that strong)

It's strong in that it's uncounterable though.

My perception of today's gamestate is that town players are starting to find each other and establish a towncore. I could be wrong, but a number of players that I townread yesterday still hold that status in my mind today, and not only that, they're seeing it in each other. Epi/Guillo. Jack/HK. Myself/Jack. Dunya/Wilgy.

I'll admit I could be very wrong about any number of them, but I don't think today's the day that happens.

If that is what's happening, that would mean my perception that the outliers sewing discord among those players are the mafia. JPIC and falcon are two players who imo are doing that today.

I dunno what Leorio is, but I am TRing you again Jack

[VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:54 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:45 pm Marmot,

Just noticed it. I tend to start reading at point B and stay caught up until point C. Then I will be away until point D. At that point, I will simultaneously start reading at point D and C, trying to keep up and ketchup at the same time. Occasionally (especially early in the game), I will close a window (usually on purpose) and simply lose the posts between C and D.

You can kinda see these two parallel time streams in my isos if you really look for them so just FYI, that’s why it may feel like I’m picking random ass posts out from 10 pages back.

Anyway, why?

I do this too tbh. It's a pain in active games and I just give up on the point C catchup.

What did you just notice? I'm confused at what you're responding to.

Also, why what?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:41 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:16 pm hmm, i saw pyre ted yesterday, i tred him in that game and defended him against the thread and he sussed me so i'm gonna be wary of letting him think i townread him now lol.

[VOTE: guillio] aubergine tbh. he's stifling me and i don't like it. if anyone has been "chaotic" in the thread, it's been him.

Did you notice this earlier and comment on it now, or just notice this?
In hindsight, I think you were talking to Dunya about this post not to me about my post about this post.

That was a product of me catching up from point C and trying to talk to you at my point D with your point D during your point C.

I would yeet JPIC. My memory of him today is throwing random shade in my direction.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:45 pm Marmot,

Just noticed it. I tend to start reading at point B and stay caught up until point C. Then I will be away until point D. At that point, I will simultaneously start reading at point D and C, trying to keep up and ketchup at the same time. Occasionally (especially early in the game), I will close a window (usually on purpose) and simply lose the posts between C and D.

You can kinda see these two parallel time streams in my isos if you really look for them so just FYI, that’s why it may feel like I’m picking random ass posts out from 10 pages back.

Anyway, why?

I do this too tbh. It's a pain in active games and I just give up on the point C catchup.

What did you just notice? I'm confused at what you're responding to.

Also, why what?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:55 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:57 am @Jackofhearts2005 been largely MIA today, where you at boi
Going for the classic LHF I see

Jack is LHF?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:51 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:28 am Spicy read. Wilgy and Mac are partners.

I dont like how he came to Wilgy’s rescue when we were pushing him and dunya off the fake redcheck.
I dont like how Wilgy is voting there knowing well that wagon might not take off today. I don’t like it how Mac is not reacting to it.
spicy indeed

mac and wilgy in scumchat

wilgy: im gonna redpeek dunya lol
mac: do it! i can push her then.

>dunya claims to have targeted mac
mac: dunya town

mmmmmmmmm i can't see it.

What about either one of them independent of the other?

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

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