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by Marmot
Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:05 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Waitin' for that flip!
by Marmot
Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:41 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

You know I was gonna vote Gav :p
by Marmot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:00 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Yeah, Deli's Day 2 push of Syn is a good reminder that Syn is likely just town.


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Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:37 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:19 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:15 pm enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn
this is a lie
Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:43 pm I’m saying syn probably wolf slipped, and they targeted someone else, which means JK also went thru…

Unless there is some other mech reason Esooa could be lying that I’m missing?
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:46 pm
Gavial wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:45 pm
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:43 pm I’m saying syn probably wolf slipped, and they targeted someone else, which means JK also went thru…

Unless there is some other mech reason Esooa could be lying that I’m missing?
You think Syn is claiming JK?
How would that make sense? Unless he JKd Esooa?
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:49 pm And if Syn is a wolf I presume he knows where the NK was lmao what is this
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:55 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:53 pm
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:48 pm
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:43 pm I’m saying syn probably wolf slipped, and they targeted someone else, which means JK also went thru…

Unless there is some other mech reason Esooa could be lying that I’m missing?
ok couple things.
1 - nobody has mentioned JK, just doctor, so that's bad
2 - esooa claiming doc on wiml and syn saying that's a lie doesn't mean syn knows where the NK was, please think that logic through.

Pretty sure Jk is a role in this game, bruh
pretty sure the 4 roles given in the OP said town will have 3 of them.
… forget about it, I didn’t read closely

Regardless, I don’t understand what syn is doing and Occam’s razor feels like syn is just a wolf here

Syn/hk/nanook team doesn’t seem unrealistic
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:59 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:56 pm
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:55 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:53 pm
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:49 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:48 pm
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:43 pm I’m saying syn probably wolf slipped, and they targeted someone else, which means JK also went thru…

Unless there is some other mech reason Esooa could be lying that I’m missing?
ok couple things.
1 - nobody has mentioned JK, just doctor, so that's bad
2 - esooa claiming doc on wiml and syn saying that's a lie doesn't mean syn knows where the NK was, please think that logic through.

Pretty sure Jk is a role in this game, bruh
pretty sure the 4 roles given in the OP said town will have 3 of them.
… forget about it, I didn’t read closely

Regardless, I don’t understand what syn is doing and Occam’s razor feels like syn is just a wolf here

Syn/hk/nanook team doesn’t seem unrealistic
that is not what occam's razor is

man what a pandora's box
Simplest solution is often the right solution. All you’ve done is say Esooa is lying, no reason why, nothing. It’s just wolfy tbh
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:56 pm Syn should be hiding his claim or just claim it, instead he is doing this weird middle ground vague thing that doesn’t make sense

Regardless we lunch outside of the claims 100% of the time here I’m pretty sure.
Deli wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:07 pm Whatever Syn is doing is anti town so unless he tracked Esooa and she did not visit wiml, or he JKd Esooa, there is no reason not to believe her. There could have been a JK somewhere else that caused the no NK, either thru protecting the Jk target or by preventing w!jktarget from getting off their kill. We have very little information and what Syn has done has been anti-town and tbh between it and the petty fighting it’s all been pretty demoralizing.

I’m busy, have a job interview tomorrow I’m really excited about. I’m working the 25 minutes leading up to EoD so I’ll only be here tomorrow during a short window. Someone else solve the fucking game.
by Marmot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:54 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day One

Deli wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:34 pm
Creature wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:13 pm
Deli wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:10 pm
Esooa wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:58 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:06 pm @Esooa is Kami mafia?
RN I'd say she's town. In the game I played with her previously she didn't really care that much and made few reads etc because she was scum and didn't really want to be. This game obviously she cares about reading stuff and is mad at HK because of what she's read
Kami’s caring is a function of her mood, not her alignment ime
Besides hollowkatt, who else are you up to lynch?
i'm almost at the point with hollow that like nah, idk that a wolf comes in and does that-- not going to clear them for being inconsistent but Idt it would make sense for hollow to be w/w is falcon and I'd rather flip falcon first.



Villa
Deli

Villa lean
wiml
marmot
igno?


Not clearing(hopefully not more than 1 wolf in here)
Mac
Esooa
Kami
Hollow
Creature


Lunch here(three wolves-- one time?!)
gavial
nanook
falcon


tbh tho it's early and this list could be very good or very bad or neither :O

Deli forgot to include Syn in his Day 1 readlist, would I be foolish to call this auto-town Syn?
by Marmot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:37 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Syn wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:51 pm when do you want to vote, marmot
Probably later tonight when I go back and reread stuff. I want to do more due diligence in looking at you and Mac to be certain about where to vote.

Still leaning toward Gavial at the moment, but I'm likely the nightkill tonight, so I know whenever we hammer will be my last post.


Who do you want to yeet at this point?
by Marmot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:37 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Two

Gavial wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:51 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:40 pm
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:37 pm
Syn wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:19 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 3:15 pm enough people have showed up

being confirmed town is fun

I'm the doctor and I protected wiml. I can self target/consecutive target so I have no real qualms with claiming rn
this is a lie
Esooa claims doctor, protected wiml. Given there was no death, this obviously has to be true. Why would it be a lie unless syn knows wiml wasn’t the target of the NK??

Wtf is going on
[VOTE: deli] aubergine
the fuck is this vote
Wait a second I just realized something.
If mafia did attack WimI and if mafia knew the only one that would protect them is Esooa and that happens to be the case, how would mafia go into the next day knowing this logic?
Honestly it may make sense to insta vote WimI to push their kill target and out Esooa.
I think HK could actually be Scum.

I tried reading Syn's ISO in a negative light as if he's mafia and the thing that looked the worst wasn't even a Syn post, but a Gavial post where he sorta TMI'd that esooa was the doctor and performed a successful check on Wiml, and made a push to yeet someone who had incredible town equity.
by Marmot
Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:30 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:12 am
Gavial wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:06 am
Kami wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:07 am i dont really care if you guys lynch me not game losing but you need to vote mac tomorrow.
The post of deli purposefully calling me v and him w will make it even more obvious they were w/w if u flip me anyways
If your town.
There’s no way we lynch scum today.
Marmot won’t vote Syn and probably won’t vote Mac from the looks of it.
see @Marmot its all your fault
What's my fault?
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:06 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Kami wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:38 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:41 pm Acually, looking back at Kami's Day 3, I feel worse there lol. They called Deli town the whole day, and voted Mac, Nanook and Syn.

Kami's Day 4 wasn't great. They never talked about Creature, and only talked about me when I associated them with Creature. They then accused me of lying when I pointed out that Deli was trying to yeet Mac on Day 2. But Kami eventually voted for Creature despite being in a position where it made more sense to vote for me, and it happened after I acknowledged their argument and that I didn't fully understand their behavior.

It's the one thing that makes me think Kami is possibly town. As scum, they were incentivized to yeet me yesterday, but chose to back off of their OMGUS of me when I also backed off.


Also, esooa's legacy is that Kami is town.
Bruh I never OMGUS you or even said I was going to vote you, but you are 100% being a liar if you can't see that deli is w/w with mac

1) OMGUS is not a bad thing lol. It's just a description for when Player A suspects Player B, and Player B in turn suspects them back. That is what you did yesterday, I said you looked cornered, and you responded by scumreading me and calling me a liar. OMGUS is a natural response from a townie who feels they're being suspected for dumb or insincere reasons imo.

2) Stop calling me a liar, ok? Saying that implies that I'm intentionally saying something that I know is not a truth. I am not intentionally lying, that is what I saw in Deli's handling of Mac. We can disagree on that, but it doesn't make me a liar. And anyway, you could only feel so strongly about my "lying" if you actually knew Deli's true motives were something different, and even then, it would just be TMI on your part from being their teammate.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:54 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Gavial wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:35 pm You even seen it marmot. You know how Mac and WimI treated each other day 1.

Can you explain to me what you're seeing there?
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:21 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Have you even read any of my posts today Mac? I'm literally confirmed town, but you're listening to the dead townies?
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:48 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Gavial wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:19 pm It would also make sense because it felt Creature/Deli felt pretty comfortable dying.
Also the WimI save by Esooa. Didn’t Mac and WimI have major interactions day 1?
I don't think Creature was comfortable dying. Deli most definitely, (especially looking at Creature's bussing of him), but Creature I don't think so. If Creature was comfortable with it, I assume that means that he was likely being bussed. Mac was doing everything but bussing Creature.


Also, I don't know, did they have major interactions Day 1? What does that mean?
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:55 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Oh it totally was. We're both wolves.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:41 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Acually, looking back at Kami's Day 3, I feel worse there lol. They called Deli town the whole day, and voted Mac, Nanook and Syn.

Kami's Day 4 wasn't great. They never talked about Creature, and only talked about me when I associated them with Creature. They then accused me of lying when I pointed out that Deli was trying to yeet Mac on Day 2. But Kami eventually voted for Creature despite being in a position where it made more sense to vote for me, and it happened after I acknowledged their argument and that I didn't fully understand their behavior.

It's the one thing that makes me think Kami is possibly town. As scum, they were incentivized to yeet me yesterday, but chose to back off of their OMGUS of me when I also backed off.


Also, esooa's legacy is that Kami is town.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:23 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

I came into the day with my order of suspicion being Kami > Gavial > Mac > Syn, but now I suspect Gav pretty firmly over the other two.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:21 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

A lot of that points to Gavial (someone who's familiar with Mac) being the final scum over Kami (someone who I don't think is familiar with Mac) being scum, in that they can inform the other two wolves.

I don't think Mac knows Kami, and this post would suggest that's correct.

MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:58 am Kami why did you sign up to our site with two user names? You're also @MissSparkles right?

I think esooa was the one who invited Kami to the Syndicate, but I could be wrong.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:02 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Fwiw, Gavial did immediately accept the Nanook result before talking himself out of it and scumreading Nanook.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:58 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Five

Syn wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:54 pm Creature made the same case on chopping Deli over the alternatives, no?

Yeah it's true, do you think both teammates did that?

Creature also threatened to break the postcap to get modkilled, which was never going to work for scum unless people angleshot-read that as townie and yeeted me instead.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:46 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day One

Looking through Mac's ISO

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:14 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:12 pm Meh, self-restricting myself in posting is really boring. I think I would rather run out of posts halfway in the day than allow some game stagnancy and we all should be doing the same. Like, I think there's no difference if we end up choosing a lynch and running out of posts halfway in the day except we'd have to wait a little longer for the day to end.

Only townreading falcon so far.

[VOTE: Wiml] aubergine
I am now townreading two people.
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:15 pm Sorry three people.

Note to self for later. Creature, Falcon, Hollowkatt are town.

Mac gave Creature an early townread. Not great, but whatever.

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MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:13 pm Deli probably town.

Then Mac gave Deli a townread.

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MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:08 pm Fairly sure Wiml is wolfing though, and Esooa is town. Also think Wiml spewed Deli town.

This is another weird read, and less of a good look for Mac. I finds a chance to call Deli town based on Wiml spew.

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MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:25 pm Pretty confident townreads

hollowkatt
Esooa
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Moderately confident townreads

falcon45ca
Syn

Not sure, kinda towny maybe

Creature
Gavial
Kami

Kinda scummy but I have a sense I might be reading these people wrong

Marmot
Deli

Just wolfy

Wiml
ignoramus

Deli dropped from a townread to marginal scumread at this point on Day 1, Creature maintained his TR status. Nothing really wrong with this.


Mac didn't talk to or about Creature or Deli on Day 2, and Mac even postcapped this day. I actually think this is a good look for Mac. I think he would not completely ignore his teammates for a full day.

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MacDougall wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:49 pm Deli's Nook world.

3 town flips. Healthy game state for mafia Nook.

Nook decides to out himself by fake claiming cop so he can chop exactly Deli and Marmot in order to win the game.

As opposed to just ... not doing that?

If Nook is fake then the real PR will out. You should be pushing Esooa but you aren't. Cuz you know you can't.

Day 3, Mac does buy into the Deli wolf strategy immediately, and makes a good case for town Nanook.

Mac does push for me being scum over Creature. but Mac did strongly scumread me from Day 2 (and scumreads me every game anyway), so this is at least consistent with his play this game. That said, this is probably a comfy position for Mac to be in as scum if he gets me yeeted before Creature, because it easily puts him in F3 with presumably Kami and Gavial.

So yeah, Mac does get credit for helping yeet Deli, but given his pushes otherwise, I don't think it deserves a lot of credit. There is other motivation that is possible here.

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MacDougall wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:38 am Deli is obvious wolf. Really no need to do anything else. Marmot feels obvious to me as well but you all probs need the Deli flip to get comfy with it.
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:02 am nanook thinks I go with deli/marmot worlds... that's some wack ass analysis. Deli/marmot thinks I go with syn/nanook worlds thats less wack. What to do with that information hmmmm.
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:08 am kinda think nook is smart enough to claim and keep bullshitting his way through to endgame with checks and wifom. I think we need to chop deli to sort him cuz sleeping and then nook living and like some random dying kinda just leaves us in the same place? If we chop deli and he's town we can just insta chop a wolf tomorrow. If we chop wolf then good shit obvs.
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:10 am I would be like...
chop deli/marmot
infochop nanook
sleep

in order of preference.

I was pretty locked into believing nook before but with his wack ass analysis of me being in his poe with how obvious it is that I'm not with deli or marmot that's been rocked.
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:14 am I think wiml is spewed town by gamestate. Esooa is town too which adds to that.

Creature/marmot difference heavily favours creature.
Deli/esooa is a dichotomy produced by nook and esooa is just town so its really a deli/nanook dicho. They're never together.

Marmot goes with deli hand in glove. That eod is a perfect how do you do of Marmot's wolf play. Deli's claim is omega suckfest.

Nanook is probably real but if he isn't then he's done this to next level fux with us. He doesn't out knowing he's creating an easy to solve fullteam dicho. He's probably real but if he isn't he's probably... no he's just real.

Maybe sleeping is right... Fuck nanook why did u have to intro that wack ass analysis.
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:16 am im so sure esooa is real that I probably wanna just chop deli and live with the consequences of being wrong over sleep so [VOTE: deli] aubergine

Although now that I read Mac's though process in yeeting Deli Day 3, I'm coming back around to town Mac. He even talked about how if Nanook isn't the cop, the best way to figure it out is by yeeting someone else, not by sleeping. I like this whole progression.

Again, Mac would already be in a comfy position without saying all of this, so the fact that he did do all this work raises his town equity. I don't think scum Mac would spend this much energy game-solving and trying to set a clear-cut strategy, even if it's wrong, he'd imbue more chaos into this.



Addendum: Mac's ISO isn't perfect, but I think he's town.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:20 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Two

Gavial wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:13 pm
Syn wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:20 pm I want to open up a creature deli and serve up some marmot
Marmot you say?
You haven’t mentioned them much why do you read them as scum or partners with creature/Deli?

This is also a notable post. Gavial asks Syn why he thinks I (confirmed town) are partnered with Creature/Deli (confirmed scum), especially considering Syn mentioned us all in the capacity in his sentence, and that Gavial opted to split the three people up based on their alignments.

It is true that Syn hadn't talked about me much to this point, but he hadn't talked about Creature either. Syn's ISO to this point had treated Creature and I essentially the same, though Gavial did not treat it this way.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:13 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day One

Spoiler: show
Gavial wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:18 pm Time for me to go over everyone:

Syn - Starts out with a WimL push. Claims they are willing to hammer any wagon then tells someone to hammer WimL. I’m assuming WimL is just a placeholder, from what I can tell from HK’s question Is that Syn has reads on Falcon or Deli but hasn’t mentioned them until that point.

Mac Dongull - Comes in first thing with the sheep vote, boy what a play!
Smacks em up next with that double deal town read.
Retracts that baby into the triple!
I question that guy about having those triples in mind for later and this boy hits me up with the “bad memory” excuse. Prob Town.

Hollowkat - Starts with the good ol’ locka town on the “first” poster.
In responses pops stuff up with some quick early reads!
Wants to be pocketed by Syn.
I really like HK’s readslist. Not the reads itself because it’s wrong but that is definitely the way to go about this kinda game!

Creature -
Complains about post restriction and town reads Falcon. Thinks they could wolf read Nanook according to their response towards Hollowcat. :/.
Votes me because I “disappeared”.
Throws us 5 town reads although I don’t think they ever mentioned Deli before this.
I want to say that despite this not looking so great, probably just town playing it in a different approach.

WimL -
I like the 2 in one combo! Entrance + Reaction post.
Doesn’t really show signs of survival as told Syn straight up they wouldn’t be mad if WimL got hammered.
Calls my entrance post bad but has good justification for it. I’m just trying to go try hard this game though in my defence.
Gives Falcon a Town Lean and puts Esooa/Deli Town. I like how they are going about these early reads ignoring the fact they are susing + voting me.

Marmot - Very Active :p

Falcon -
Doesn’t like being third and wishes for more is what I’m getting from his entrance post.
Claims to Nanook he is town which from what I remember in a previous town game of his probably means he is town.
Has an issue with 5 town reads at once.
Well then he’s probably not going to like this post lol.

Deli -
Ah the good ol “I’m Nub on this site” approach.
Claims WimI spews himself later on in the game which is notable.
Other then that I don’t really notice much else except maybe the joke post regarding Kami with HK’s readslist.
Prob Nub town if I had to take a shot in the dark.

Kami -
Comes straight in with the Nanook vote.
Also calls me a wolf, not surprising as I’m usually a Willager.
Nothing real else to note.

Ignoramus - Scum Reads me for “GTH Spamming Posts” and my bluff or not bluff post. Not to mention using HK’s reads to add in my name on HK’s list that wasn’t present in HK’s list. Other then that the only things of his that stand out to me is maybe the Town read on Nanook and Gut Scum Read on Falcon.

Nanook - Being Nanook

Esooa - Most notable thing is that push and interaction they had with Falcon

Here’s my solve:

GTH Top 7 Town:
Mac Dongull, Falcon, Hollowcat, WimL, Creature and Deli
6-Man PoE Scum Pool:
Syn, Ignoramus, Kami, Marmot, Esooa and Nanook because leftover.

Gavial's reason for townreading Creature here is kinda bad. A lot of these reads are really just summaries of what players had done to this point, but looking at Creature's summary:

Gavial wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:18 pm Creature -
Complains about post restriction and town reads Falcon. Thinks they could wolf read Nanook according to their response towards Hollowcat. :/.
Votes me because I “disappeared”.
Throws us 5 town reads although I don’t think they ever mentioned Deli before this.
I want to say that despite this not looking so great, probably just town playing it in a different approach.

Gavial gives Creature a :/ face for the first point.
Gavial doesn't comment on the second point (but really, that's not a great reason to vote someone, and I'm surprised Gavial didn't comment on it).
Gavial mentions the read discrepancies that Creature had with what is no a confirmed scum.

And yet, Gavial came away with a townread.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:05 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Night Four

Kami surprised me with their vote for Creature yesterday, ngl. I do think Creature and his partner had a chance to push my yeet, so Kami not eventually doing that does have me scratching my head a little bit.
by Marmot
Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:02 pm
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Night Four

5 players left. 1 of them are Ellendil.

I'm confirmed town at this point. Syn is most likely town due to spew.

That leaves someone among Kami, Gavial, and Mac.


We've got two chances, I like our odds here.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:43 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Well, self-hammer is one way to do it.

Sorry Creature, I'm not upset, just wanted to dissuade you from taking that approach
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

You have 27 more posts, but I also don't think threatening to break rules is a good way to resolve this.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:05 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Syn wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:02 am I am satisfied with my work and am settling on Deli/Marmot/Kami pending extraordinary evidence otherwise

I recommend you read days aside from Day 3 you goof.
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Three

Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:56 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:54 am
Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:50 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:47 am
Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:40 am Literally just cause of what esooa and some other person said.

Why are you trying to link me to creature so hard, and why are you sticking to your lies about deli's push?

I'm asking you because there's nothing in the thread that could have told me this. There is clearly a wolf between myself and Creature, so yes I am surprised that you haven't talked about this at all. I'm not accustomed to how you play the game, but I'm having trouble following your thought process.

I can stop interrogating you, but I'd encourage you to focus on myself/Creature first before you try to get Mac yeeted.
Because mac has been an obvious wolf all game, and you're defending him with lies so yes I'm going to focus on someone lying so obviously about what happened.

Aight.
So you gonna explain why a wolf whose trying hard for a misslynch starts defending the top wagon?

I don't know why.

I do think it's a reasonable point. It still doesn't discount the idea that Kami did push Mac earlier in the day (which is not a lie btw, Deli did do that, as I've pointed out in the quotes I showed you).

Regardless, we're not yeeting Mac today, so I'm done engaging in this conversation until tomorrow (if I'm still around) because I only have 14 posts left after this one.
by Marmot
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Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:50 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:47 am
Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:40 am Literally just cause of what esooa and some other person said.

Why are you trying to link me to creature so hard, and why are you sticking to your lies about deli's push?

I'm asking you because there's nothing in the thread that could have told me this. There is clearly a wolf between myself and Creature, so yes I am surprised that you haven't talked about this at all. I'm not accustomed to how you play the game, but I'm having trouble following your thought process.

I can stop interrogating you, but I'd encourage you to focus on myself/Creature first before you try to get Mac yeeted.
Because mac has been an obvious wolf all game, and you're defending him with lies so yes I'm going to focus on someone lying so obviously about what happened.

Aight.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:53 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

It was terrible cover, but whatever.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:52 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Three

Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:51 am
Syn wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:47 am
Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:43 am ur kinda trolling if you think me and marmot are being performative but okay

but you've been trolling all game so I guess it's expected
my dude, deli tried this exact tactic before getting smeagol'd

it didn't work then, why would it work now
I mean it's pretty troll as town to say someone is lying about a claim with no reason
I think Syn was just covering for esooa and not specifically trolling.
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Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:40 am Literally just cause of what esooa and some other person said.

Why are you trying to link me to creature so hard, and why are you sticking to your lies about deli's push?

I'm asking you because there's nothing in the thread that could have told me this. There is clearly a wolf between myself and Creature, so yes I am surprised that you haven't talked about this at all. I'm not accustomed to how you play the game, but I'm having trouble following your thought process.

I can stop interrogating you, but I'd encourage you to focus on myself/Creature first before you try to get Mac yeeted.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:38 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Syn wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:36 am are you two done enacting the plan you wrote in scum chat btw
lolsyn
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Three

Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:34 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:33 am
Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:30 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:28 am @Kami what's your read on Creature?
I was leaning them over you but you're being wolfy as fuck right now.
Think you and mac might be the last two

Can you explain why you were originally leaning them? I looked through your ISO, and you only talked about Creature once.

Kami wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:52 pm creature/nook lock wolves tbh

This is your very second post of the game. Serious read or no, this was three days ago.
Yeah and I haven't mentioned wiml/you/creature literally the entire game pretty much. It doesn't really indicate anything.

That's why I'm asking why you had originally leaned to vote ​Creature at the beginning of Day 4, I can't find any reasoning in your posts that explain that.

Why did you?
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:33 am
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Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:30 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:28 am @Kami what's your read on Creature?
I was leaning them over you but you're being wolfy as fuck right now.
Think you and mac might be the last two

Can you explain why you were originally leaning them? I looked through your ISO, and you only talked about Creature once.

Kami wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:52 pm creature/nook lock wolves tbh

This is your very second post of the game. Serious read or no, this was three days ago.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:31 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Nanook outed a difference check between myself and Creature. Presumably, we're yeeting among that pair today right? You haven't mentioned Creature yet, and I get the feeling you're currently trying to mis represent my posts in a negative light to get me yeeted. The reason I think this is the case is because I brought up some evidence that Deli was pursuing Mac and trying to get him yeeted. Your immediate response was "Why are you lying?" rather than a "Good point" or "I disagree" or some other manner of dialogue.

Addendum: You don't seem interested in entertaining me as a townread today.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:28 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

@Kami what's your read on Creature?
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:09 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

@Kami I do realize that Deli later dropped the attempt to yeet Mac, but I believe it was a product of it not sticking, not because it was a teammate that Deli didn't actually want yeeted. Those quotes I pulled do look like attempts to push pressure on him earlier in the day. If the two were teammates, I think Mac would have encouraged them to keep pushing and that he would have no trouble with the pressure (I wolfed with Mac in a game recently, and learned as much from him).


(I think I've been getting Deli's pronouns wrong all game, I'm sorry Deli)
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:04 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Report Syn, he opened up an ISO.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:02 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

I don't think Kami and MissSparkles are the same person.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:57 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:56 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:56 am Mac does deserve credit though. Like, we were considering going to go with sleep (not a terrible option) or Nanook (a terrible option) yesterday, so the fact that we didn't is a good thing.
So why are you lying about deli's push onto mac?

Can you explain where I lied?
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:56 am
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Mac does deserve credit though. Like, we were considering going to go with sleep (not a terrible option) or Nanook (a terrible option) yesterday, so the fact that we didn't is a good thing.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:54 am
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Esooa wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:51 am ur posts are so bad it makes me want to vote u

Deli was ALREADY DEAD

They aren't living

And sleeping, does not hurt town.

You didn't help town by voting Deli

You are thus INCENTIVIZED to vote her so u can say this exactly

We have enough confirmed town voices that sleeping doesn't exactly help either. It won't narrow the POE.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:53 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

I'm yeeting Creature/Kami in that order, and will entertain other options if those aren't the last two wolves.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:51 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day One

Deli wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:37 pm Is Mac an audacious wolf? cause this page has just been him trending downward.
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:19 pm Lol

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

I’m not sure what the case here on wiml is? He was wrong on igno but so were a lot of you…
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:30 pm we should entertain the possibility it was v/v wagons, although I’m not sure why there was so much movement from falcon to igno— if falcon flips wolf, I was probably wrong on marmot. Pretty sure Mac is a wolf here— he pulled igno out the blue after he’d been pretty towny

Idk I think Mac is more likely a wolf than wiml. Why does w!wiml come in as last wolf on a villager wagon??
Deli wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:24 pm Tbh I think Creature and Marmot look worse than wiml for the switch onto igno, especially if falcon flips wolf.

Also noteable is Mac was wolf reading wiml, but then voted igno after him? Then never moved.


Nah, Deli was working to get Mac yeeted.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:44 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Mac is running... automations?
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:42 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

MacDougall wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:37 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:36 am Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol
You mean how I voted the wolf out of the game and you tried to hard defend them.

If you're talking about EOD2, I defended Deli because he claimed JK. I buried him before that, but it wasn't the right call to yeet a PR claim there.

I voted Deli out yesterday too, so you're welcome.



Also, I realize I have the advantage in this situation and know that Creature's a wolf while you don't have that tmi, but that doesn't make you any more right.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:36 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Mac's reads have been so off since the claimfest I'm almost inclined to agree with you Kami lol
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:32 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Two

Deli wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:12 pm Mac has been wolfy af, I thought I had another reason to wagon him and then realized I completely misread the thread and it became irrelevant. I still think he is >rand a wolf but tbh I don’t think we should lunch there today probably.
Kami wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:19 am Naw mac is wolfy as fuck and the push was pretty weak
by Marmot
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Ngl, Kami feels more cornered than Gavial does today, which has me leaning in that direction.
by Marmot
Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:21 am
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Re: The Fall of Númenor - Day Four

Esooa wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:19 am
Marmot wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:18 am Can someone remind me why Mac isn't a wolf again?
Deli pushed him a decent amount day 1/2 and used their JK claim to scum read him in a weird way I don't think is partnered and etc

Oh right, I forgot about the weird scumread.

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