The Syndicate

Snow Dog wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Zebra why didn't you spend your gold?
MM why did you trust me?
Everyone, that Banana King thing was just a joke with no relevance to anything. I think I was going mad.
You seemed genuine. Also, I saw something that I remember from your meta when we used to play together. That told me that you were a civilian playing as you naturally do, not a baddie trying to adapt to a new environment.

I maintain, your vote record was bad, but everything else about you spoke otherwise.
I disagree. I am mighty proud of my voting record. I voted a baddie every single time except for LC, which I rectified with the upshot....I still voted a baddie ( He was my other choice anyway)

I voted zebra several times, Quin and Soneji......and Scotty!

Oh right, I guess my read of your vote record is still stuck back at the moment I was nightkilled.

Dom wrote:snow dog-- i hope i get to play with you soon!! it;s been too long.

It'll happen sooner than you think.

Snow Dog wrote:Zebra why didn't you spend your gold?
MM why did you trust me?
Everyone, that Banana King thing was just a joke with no relevance to anything. I think I was going mad.

You seemed genuine. Also, I saw something that I remember from your meta when we used to play together. That told me that you were a civilian playing as you naturally do, not a baddie trying to adapt to a new environment.

I maintain, your vote record was bad, but everything else about you spoke otherwise.

I don't know who got the breath mints (they were taken from me Night 1).

I gave Snow Dog the sword, I believe on Night 3 (that should tell you how I felt about you, maybe).

I was going to give Long Con the shovel, but I was killed the same night.

MacDougall wrote:My jimmies are so fucking rustled rght now I swear.

I wonder how this game would have panned out if I hadn't snuck that final comment about you before I was nightkilled. :P

I tell you, legacy-lynching was at its finest this game.

@Snow Dog. I don't think I ever would have pushed for your lynch. You say I told you so, but my gut was still reading you as civ. :P

@Long Con, I was actually beginning to back off of you and reverse my stance on you when I died. Unfortunately, I didn't get the chance to say as much.

I died clutching my shovel. Does that mean I dug my own grave?

Endgame time?

Look Snow Dog! You died.

Quin wrote:If the marmot gets to vote then so do I.

Oops, I didn't see a dead player option.

DrWilgy wrote:@Host will we be notified of a team's loss?

I've lost.

Rezz please

llama goofed again

thellama73 wrote:
Long Con wrote: Host: do dead players in the winning faction get to claim a win?
In some cases, but not all. The Pirates win together. The Cannibals win together. Herman Toothrot and The Head of the Navigator can win with the Cannibals. The rest of the civilians have to be alive to win.

Aw rats.

Nachomamma8 wrote:I miss MM already. Let's lynch a bad guy again.

Our reunion was short and sweet Nacho!

Hope to see you again in a future game.

thellama73 wrote:
Day 6

Congratulations, the Three Trials are complete. You're a real pirate now, and ready to sail off to Monkey Island to confront LeChuck. If you can get there without being murdered that is.

Metalmarsh won't get there without being murdered, because he was murdered.

Incidentally, the treasure was West-West-South-South.

Metalmarsh89 has been killed. He was the Shopkeeper. He died clutching his shovel.
You have 48 hours to lynch a baddie., although it will probably be longer than 48 hours since I'm flying to Vermont on Sunday.

Oh no! I'm dead.

Well goddam.

a2thezebra wrote:I'll vote for one of Scotty or Snow Dog, whoever has a better chance of getting lynched tomorrow. I won't vote MacDougall, I don't think he would risk missing that many votes and contributing this little in general as a baddie. He's not a risk-taker.

Except in Romance of the Three Kingdoms, where he missed the vote on Days 8, 9, 10, 11, and averaged less than 10 posts per day phase throughout the game.

Just, ya'know, throwing that out there.

I gather that you're voting for MacDougall tomorrow?

Who's Sloonei? Is he a pirate character?

Also, boosh and/or kakow.

Scotty wrote:That just makes sense anyway. Why wouldn't we want to strip the pirates from their kill power (I'm assuming this is passed down to the remaining pirates when lechck dies)

You're right, it does. I've just been following what the OP says.

That's an assumption that might not necessarily be the best one. But you do you Scotty-peg-shoe.

Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Well there ya go! Good goin, Soneji voters!

My vote doesn't look great in retrospect unless LC is bad.

I think MM is definitely a pirate based on that flip. His reluctance to acknowledge the case on Soneji seems really wishy washy.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Nice job you guys!

Not the most ideal, but still good.
What would be more ideal than lynching a baddie, hmm?

thellama73 wrote:Civilians: Kill LeChuck, Bob, and the Cannibals.
It's not part of the quest, ye scallywag.
I believe that was corrected, old chum. And discussed and referenced since that correction.

I'd love to see where this happened because I honestly had no idea.

I'll take North-North-East for $400.

Scotty wrote:Well there ya go! Good goin, Soneji voters!

My vote doesn't look great in retrospect unless LC is bad.

I think MM is definitely a pirate based on that flip. His reluctance to acknowledge the case on Soneji seems really wishy washy.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Nice job you guys!

Not the most ideal, but still good.
What would be more ideal than lynching a baddie, hmm?

thellama73 wrote:Civilians: Kill LeChuck, Bob, and the Cannibals.

It's not part of the quest, ye scallywag.

Nice job you guys!

Not the most ideal, but still good.

Long Con, have my vote!

Despite Scotty's interjection, you can still answer my question Long Con.

In fact, I implore you do.

I want to lynch Long Con, and our only chance today is if DrWilgy joins me in forcing a tie (and someone has a wonderful item to use).

But I don't like ties either. This lynch is the worst.

Scotty wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Long Con, what do you think of Scotty?

I'm always hungry.
Oh no you don't. You still haven't answered my questions concerning Soneji and voting intentions i posed to you last night, which you conveniently skipped:
Scotty wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.
I did mention something like that. I said a team of 5 with some players who are often fairly active (including myself) managed to miss a nightkill, so really anyone can.

But Epignosis called BR out specifically, so I followed suit.
Hey @MM!

-What do you currently think of Soneji? I just went looking through your post history and the most you have mentioned him is to basically say "I am uninterested in lynching him" and "I'm not convinced he is bad".

-Are you currently looking to vote for LC today?

I kinda skimmed some posts, but sure I'll address this.

I made a comment about Soneji (in response to motel room) a couple days ago about his post calling MP civ. Soneji offered a reasonable explanation for it.

Other than that, I don't see anything incriminating against him. What about you?

Long Con, what do you think of Scotty?

I'm always hungry.

Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Scotty wrote:Why is MM a moderate scumread for you?
Because he was a Civ read, but then his latest agreement with meaningless and fake accusations against me made me question that.
I don't see either of those accusations being fake.

Sig made a gutread that you are bad, and was subsequently nightkilled. That doesn't make him civ, but the odds are in his favor.
Actually, you bringing it up makes it a lot more likely that you are bad. You killed sig in the hopes that everyone would come to the conclusion that I did it because he suspected me. Since that didn't happen, you, slightly frustrated, just tried to push that agenda. We've all seen it before, and here it is happening.

Scotty made a reasonable point.
I don't recall that happening, which point was that? I recall his last point against me having no real point to it at all, and when I asked him to clarify, he didn't - or couldn't - give any reply at all.

I wasn't connecting sig's death to your alignment. I said that sig was killed right after he said a thing, and so since he was nightkilled, there's a decent chance he's a civilian, and that what he says is sincere.

I pointed out that your statement is inaccurate. Rather than prove otherwise, you're attempting to flip this around on me. Do you still think that Scotty and sig made fake and meaningless accusations?

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.
I did mention something like that. I said a team of 5 with some players who are often fairly active (including myself) managed to miss a nightkill, so really anyone can.

But Epignosis called BR out specifically, so I followed suit.
This a scumslip

Hardly. People (Soneji) were giving me more credit than I deserved.

Soneji wrote:Scotty, I'm having a hard time seeing eye to eye with you on MM. The theory you have just seems rather implausible, for reasons you yourself stated. Epi could have gone after many people with his reasoning, why go after Black Rock, his supposed scummate? From what I have seen modkills don't really happen here so BR not having much time to play isn't very convincing for why they'd pull this, even if modkills were more common using the "inactives didn't send in their kill" logic to lynch anyone outside their faction would have been the more optimal move. All the BR lynch accomplished for them in that case is getting Epi offed.

MM, to my remembrance, seemed fine with the BR lynch based on personal experience of being part of a mafia team that failed to send in their NK.

I did mention something like that. I said a team of 5 with some players who are often fairly active (including myself) managed to miss a nightkill, so really anyone can.

But Epignosis called BR out specifically, so I followed suit.

Long Con wrote:
Scotty wrote:Why is MM a moderate scumread for you?
Because he was a Civ read, but then his latest agreement with meaningless and fake accusations against me made me question that.

I don't see either of those accusations being fake.

Sig made a gutread that you are bad, and was subsequently nightkilled. That doesn't make him civ, but the odds are in his favor.

Scotty made a reasonable point.

So nope! I disagree.

Linki: tfw you get almost 24 hours of linkitis.

Scotty wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Scotty wrote:Ok folks's, I've got a lot to do in prep for thanksgiving (happy turkey day, US of A!) including prepping my first tofurkey (wtf). I'm sated for now with soneji's response to the "MP is civ" thing. I think I'd rather vote Boom today, so I'll go ahead and do that. Godspeed, brave adventurers!

boom
Why did you decide to vote for Boomslang here? I don't remember him being one of the targets that you liked to talk about the most, and I'd expect me pushing his lynch to dampen your enthusiasm a bit.
Boomslang was on my list from N1 missed kills. Sure he wasn't one I was talking about the most, but then I talk about candy corn all the time. Doesn't mean I'm gonna make a meal out of it.
Why would your pushing his lynch detract from or attract me to his lynch? I found him more suspicious than you.

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Scotty wrote:
MacDougall wrote:I would like to point out that I am not also Snow Dog.
i feel like zebras are far less quarrelsome in the savannah. Zebras wrestling with dogs and...whatever the hell Mac's avatar is...unheard of!

Also, GTH who would you vote for right now?

mac, what is your avatar?

I want to vote MM. Anyone want to join me?
I don't really understand your case on MM; him voting Black Rock for not doing anything while saying that he wasn't doing anything was the crux of your case against him, correct? Don't you think there was a considerable difference between MM's play and Black Rock's?
Not the crux, no. But I was already suspicious of Epi's random push for BR, and that MM jumped on it without even thinking, and without even mentioning it before made my hair bristle.

Epignosis ought to be trusted more than he is.

On a side note, I am moving this week and have finals next week, so my activity will be sporadic.

sig wrote:Okay I have no case to back this up what so ever and don't intend to make one tonight, but I'm about 65% sure LC is mafia now. His play style was neaturl before, but I'm becoming increasingly more pinged by his play style and his attack on zebra seems to be what mafia LC used to do to me.

I'm also voting Nijju and must go for the time. I will be back later to do some ISO

I agree with you on LC.

Scotty wrote:
Long Con wrote:No more spreading out votes. I agree with zebra's analysis of Soneji, and he is now one of my suspects.
Wait what? But you just voted zebra. Zebra, this is a true waffle if I ever saw it.

I agree with sig that LC is bad. Probably bad with MM.

I agree with you on LC.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Could someone talk to me about why zebra is picking up votes?
Starting to reread the last 10 pages so I have a general sense of the game, then will start on ISOs.

Beats me. I've got her down as probs civ.

nijuukyugou wrote:

I have four votes for no good reason that I saw. I said my defense. It did nothing. I'm rather annoyed that it happened this way, actually. However, I see no reason to react ridiculously, as it changes nothing.

I was drunk. That's a damn good reason to vote for anyone.

Nice result. Excellent job on the lynch y'all!

Again, Snow Dog's play looks good, but his vote here is the opposite.

MacDougall wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Metalmarsh is town
I don'tk now if I trust you MAc, but I'm going to get some sleep and make some pumpkin panckates in the mornign. (You can have some too if you lieke)
Rude

This was meant as a a kind gesture. Gerofirt.

(but I nreally need to go to bed k)

kgodninught

]My fingertips are numb, I wonder how that caem baotut.

I ablame it on the unforunate daeaths of Quin and EEEEEEEEEEpignosi.

I just realie d that my ultimatum fr nijuukyougoyu leaves her only one reall pption.

Get lynched cheesecake!

MacDougall wrote:Metalmarsh is town

I don'tk now if I trust you MAc, but I'm going to get some sleep and make some pumpkin panckates in the mornign. (You can have some too if you lieke)

Ninjanasin Blooper! get lyched pr die!

Unfortunately, I'm drunk, and I haveto wake up in 6 hours tp leave for a snowshow/camping trip and won't e back on until after the deadline, so I'm toing to goite NIJUUUUUUUUUUUU to continue the legcay of the Epignosisisisisisisisisisisisis/

Scotty wrote:I'm still under the impression that there are pirates in the mix of my shortlist. But I also realize that the cannibals are probably actively hunting for pirates, so I probably need to start looking there so we have less chance to mislynch those on my list. Soneji is the top of my list, as he was with Boom yesterday.

I want to look at LC, MM and of course zebra.

MM, what would you say if i told you I feel like you were buddying Epi the past 2 days?

I have been budding him because he's ths civvest of civs and I turst himt.

Snow Dog wrote:
Long Con wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Aw crap.

Sorry Boomslang! You were the best of us.
Hey!

Long Con wrote:Sorry to see you go, MP - you were the best of us!
Needless plagiarism.

I enjoye this way more than I ahshould have.

Aw crap.

Sorry Boomslang! You were the best of us.

Snow Dog wrote:@Metalmarsh Have you heard of the Finnish band HIM?

No I haven't. Any specific recommendations?

My morning got away from me, and I've got to run. I'm voting Boomslang to put him ahead of zebra (who I have a slight townread on).

I'm not convinced enough to vote for Soneji, and while I trust Epignosis this game, it's too late to lynch nijuu today. Also I don't like ties.

Linki: Hi DrWilgy, I've got that power play, ohbaby!!

Snow Dog wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Does anyone object to lynching nijuukyugou? If so, why?
Why do you want to lynch her?

Long Con wrote:I think it's a weak vote from Vompatti.

Here's my take:

Long Con wrote:If the Pirates killed MP, then the only players in the game that knew MP was Civ (if it's so) are the Cannibals. That's pretty simple to see. The Pirates, for all they knew, killed a Cannibal. The Civs know next to nothing. Vice-versa if the Cannibals killed him.... then the Pirates knew if he's Civ.

I'm not saying that Soneji did know MP was Civ (and is therefore a baddie), but it is a possibility.

Or, he just made a careless assumption that the baddies killed a Civ, and forgot to consider the other option. That's very easy to believe.
I haven't decided which side I believe yet. If it is a slip, then it's such a delicious catch and I would hate to disregard it. On the other hand, I could easily see myself making that careless assumption, so it's hard to bring the hammer down.
That's a good point. Both of these stories are believable.

But that leaves me in the same spot I'm in with regards to Snow Dog. I see reason to believe he's civ, as well as mafia.
What would it take to convince you I am not mafia?

You do you mate.

I'm just here to judge you on all of your content.

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