The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:Well, I disagree. I think the game should continue as long as there's a chance for either team to win, especially given the significant handicap imposed on civs by the tight time limit (what is chance? Isn't it chance that we didn't correctly guess who the baddies were and lynch them, to a certain extent?) But your game, your rules.

I will keep that in mind for the future. I like your reasons and agree with them regarding the endgame procedure.

The players have more than chance to lynch baddies. But you're right, 1 hour is hardly enough time to do so. Flipping a coin to decide who get's lynched? There is definitely more chance there.

fingersplints wrote:I just hate not having an ability. I already don't like being a civvie and than I see vanilla

It happens. If we had lucked into finding a mafia day 1 it all would have been different. We should have stuck to the lynching Boogs scheme

In my honest opinion though, I understand 15 minutes is not much time to decide who to use your night action on. Now imagine having to coordinate 6 civvies and 2 baddies night actions in that same 15 minute period by yourself.

SVS suggested the idea of cycling the power roles for civs. I incorporated that idea, so if you didn't get a power the first day, you still might the second day.

Thanks for voicing your opinion though. I thought the speed of the game would make up for getting a plain role. I was wrong. So we will come up with some other ideas for next time for sure.

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Do tied lynches no result in a death?

No, they would be decided randomly.

But this is a mafia background that I'm used to. If there are equal number mafia and civs at the start of a day phase, then mafia wins. Even if it was a no death, the civs have 0 chance at that point.

Flase. If SVS and Splints voted for Roxy and Rox and Epig voted for SVS, and the ranomizer picked Rox, the night phase would have started 2 civs, 1 baddie. The civs could have been protected or the baddies could have ben blocked, and even if not, the following day lynch would have been a 1 v. 1 tie, which could have gone to the civs. Unlikely, but greater than 0 by a wide margin.

I know, but being that the mafia reduced the civs numbers down to equal their own, it would be most unfortunate for the baddies to have almost certain victory snatched from them by chance, considering they played the better game up to the point. They played the game better, so they get the win. This is the reasoning I am accustomed to. I am open to change, such as no lynches for a tie, or even a no lynch option. But that would be for a later game.

thellama73 wrote:If MP had the role block, why did he flip vanilla?

(sorry if it sounds like I'm nit picking. I had a great, great time. Just curious.)

MP didn't flip as anything. But he was an obvious civvie since he was NK'd.

Roxy wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Civilians

fingersplints
juliets
Made
MovingPictures
SVS
thellama

Baddies

Epignosis
Roxy



Night 1

MP blocked fingers
juliets protected SVS
Epi killed MP (taking the roleblock with him)

Night 2

fingersplints protected Roxy
Epi killed juliets



And that was that.

I could not help but win being a civ and a baddie

I waved my magic wand and now you look crazy!

fingersplints wrote:I think not having any abilities at first hindered us too. Not that that is MM's fault. Just something to keep in mind for the next one.
I hate being a vanilla civvie And that whole first night we had no block/protect/check anything so really nothing to help us but our bad lynches.

This is as basic as mafia can get, though the rotating roles were an extra flavor SVS had suggested.

Normally, 7 civilians would be ideal, because you then at least get a Day 3 (assuming you don't lynch 2 baddies before that) With this setup, it is almost an equal chance of victory for either side.

With how rapid the game progressed, reading players is difficult. Often you have to resort to gut, because you're too busy reading posts and responding to do any effective scumhunting. But again, finding a good strategy to find baddies like this would work too. These are my thoughts anyway.

Civilians

fingersplints
juliets
Made
MovingPictures
SVS
thellama

Baddies

Epignosis
Roxy



Night 1

MP blocked fingers
juliets protected SVS
Epi killed MP (taking the roleblock with him)

Night 2

fingersplints protected Roxy
Epi killed juliets



And that was that.

thellama73 wrote:Do tied lynches no result in a death?

No, they would be decided randomly.

But this is a mafia background that I'm used to. If there are equal number mafia and civs at the start of a day phase, then mafia wins. Even if it was a no death, the civs have 0 chance at that point.

thellama73 wrote:Thanks for the game, MM! I had a lot of fun.

Thanks. I am having a ton of fun observing.

Who went and did MovingPictures in?

Epignosis
0
No votes

fingersplints
0
No votes

juliets
0
No votes

Roxy
0
No votes

SVS
2
Epignosis (4), thellama73 (5)
22%

thellama
4
juliets (6), S~V~S (7), Roxy (8), fingersplints (9)
44%

Geddy Lee (Host/NP/dead ones)
3
MovingPictures07 (1), Metalmarsh89 (2), Made (3)
33%


Total votes : 9

zeek wrote:

zeek wrote:Suck it, newt

Wrong colour, sorry. I need to go to bed now.

If you were alive, I'd modkill you.

Epignosis wrote:Posting on topic! Reported.

What should I do about Boogs (and you), the fellow you replaced who posted OT.

Who will go on Day 1?

Epignosis
0
No votes

fingers
3
thellama73 (2), MovingPictures07 (4), Made (8)
33%

juliets
0
No votes

Made
4
S~V~S (5), Epignosis (6), juliets (7), Roxy (9)
44%

MP07
1
fingersplints (3)
11%

Roxy
0
No votes

SVS
0
No votes

thellama
0
No votes

Britzeek (Host/NP)
1
Metalmarsh89 (1)
11%


Total votes : 9

thellama73 wrote:MM: were the roles randomized or hand picked?

Both.

Roles were randomly picked by my hand.

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Hello. I just wanted to let you all know that you can't change your vote.

This is now going to be problematic for me.

Already fixed.

S~V~S wrote:Where is Boogs?

Dunno. He posted 30 minutes before gametime, but hasn't received his role PM yet.

MovingPictures07 wrote:LOL, MM are you in CST like me?

I'm on PST and I'm only on my first beer. :P

Fixed.

NOTE - because I cannot make polls to last 1 hour, I have included a time in the thread title for when the poll ends.


Carry on.

Boogs wrote:Just got home from the play. Did you send roles out? I thought it starts at 6?

I will send roles out at 6 when the game starts. Look forward to it.

Dang Boogs, did you hear me.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Let me know if the host color is too difficult to read. I can change if necessary.

Personally, I'm delighted to have a host color I can actually read in prosilver for once.

I've always wondered why they call the other one lucid lime.

This is a customized skin for this site, built on the Lucid Lime bones. Here is a link to the original Lucid Lime:

http://demo.phpbb3styles.net/Lucid+Lime

Oh hey, that one's actually lime.

Thanks fingers! I agree.

thellama73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Let me know if the host color is too difficult to read. I can change if necessary.

Personally, I'm delighted to have a host color I can actually read in prosilver for once.

I've always wondered why they call the other one lucid lime.

Here are the participants!

Boogs replaced Day 1 by Epignosis
fingersplints
juliets
Made
MovingPictures07
Roxy
SVS
thellama73

Hello everyone, and welcome to the Syndicate's first attempt at a Lightning Mafia (yes, it's a silly name). This game will be hosted on this very site that you are all familiar with. This game has got a Halloween theme to it, because this holiday is just around the corner. This will be a simple game of mafia since speed is of the essence. 2 (maybe 3) baddies, the rest civvies, and we'll be getting down to the old school scumhunting for this game. Thanks SVS for the help to get things started, and thank you all for joining. Please take some time to read the rules below, and ask question if you have them.



Here are the roles!

Trick-or-Treaters (civilians)

1) Role blocker*
2) Protector*
3) Vanilla
4) Vanilla
5) Vanilla
6) Vanilla

*One special modification for this game. The two power roles will rotate to another player on a daily basis AFTER the night period is over and BEFORE the day period begins. If a civvie dies while he/she has one of these roles, the role dies with them. The powers will rotate randomly, but also evenly.

Bullies (baddies) - get one kill each night, have BTSC

1) Vanilla
2) Vanilla



Sidenote - As you can see, this is counting on 8 players playing. If a 9th player joins, they will be added in as an additional civ. If a 10th player joins, they will be added in as a baddie.