The Syndicate

G-Man wrote:Just want to say that this was a fun game to follow. Not so much a fun game to participate in but that'll happen when you sub in for someone who made themselves look guilty to the extreme and got busted commenting on his departure from the game on another mafia site mere minutes before being introduced as a replacement. I was doomed from the start but I think I made the most of it by leaving virtually no trace of alignment to my teammates. I even ignored our BTSC chat room for days on end while I was alive. And by now you all know I can't help myself when it comes to writing silly after-death posts.

Overall, I have to say that was one of the most difficult scenarios I have ever faced. Not stressful in the slightest but difficult because I had no motivation for getting into the game or even attempting to put up a front to make up for my predecessor. I will say that I was surprised that outside information was allowed to be used against me/my predecessor. Was there any discussion about that from the mod side of the site? I'm not whining and playing the Unfair Card or anything (because my predecessor did enough damage to make his baddie status evident). Maybe I'm just being too old school in my thought process but I remember back when you weren't supposed to use external information as evidence in a game.

I guess there's a relationship here akin to don't be an asshat / don't get butt-hurt. Don't bring evidence in from other forums and don't run your mouth about a game in progress on another forum. Does that make sense? Not looking to start a thing here or get anyone in trouble. Just getting it off my chest.

Regardless, I have no regrets helping out an old acquaintance and subbing into this game. After all, I did manage to out-live Long Con. How you guys let that happen is beyond me.

Dom wrote:I want to thank everyone who has said they enjoyed the game.. I'm glad you all enjoyed it!

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Long Con, how did you like Cobalt and I going after your bacon on Day 0/Day 1?

Hilarity.

Also hilarious that you jerks had to wait until you knew I was not going to be around to lynch me.

It's like you knew that, had I been around, I would have never let you vote me out. You know it's true. I don't blame you folks for taking the coward's way out. Too bad I didn't have to survive to win. My ghost literally saved S~V~S' life and subsequently secured our baddie win.

Next time, you'd better kill me so hard that my identity gets erased from the forum.

My Day 1 vote was a grudge vote from Flash. :P

My Day 1 case was fabricated as hell. I even backed off of TinyBubbles before you were lynched.

But hey, after a couple days, you still weren't looking so hot, so I figured I must be right.

OH yeah, I wasn't "looking so hot". You must mean the awesomely real cases that connected me to TinyBubbles, sig, Cobalt, or whoever the other player was that I had no connection to.

Every single case made against me was made up and wrong. The only people who can even come close to saying they had a legitimate case against me were the people who suspected me "on gut".

Golden wrote:

Oh, another thing LC - did you legitimately think I was on team webber, or were you thinking it was simply an advantageous feud?

I think we knew you were Indy at that point. By the way, we never targeted you for the kill on Night 2. We targeted Epignosis, and somehow it was redirected to you while you were protected. Just in case Scotty thinks he has great instincts for predicting the baddie team's kill... well, not that time. Pure, crazy luck.

Golden wrote:I have to admit, the Flash popped through my mind in that final day as I was thinking about the fact that whatever decision I made could determine whether LC/BR backed up and won another game together.

I still can't get over the fact that somehow every baddie team Bass is in wins.

Bass was Indy in Flash, not part of our team. This is the third game this year that Black Rock and I have gotten to a win together and basically brought Bass along for the ride. It's crazy!

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Long Con, how did you like Cobalt and I going after your bacon on Day 0/Day 1?

Hilarity.

Also hilarious that you jerks had to wait until you knew I was not going to be around to lynch me.

It's like you knew that, had I been around, I would have never let you vote me out. You know it's true. I don't blame you folks for taking the coward's way out. Too bad I didn't have to survive to win. My ghost literally saved S~V~S' life and subsequently secured our baddie win.

Next time, you'd better kill me so hard that my identity gets erased from the forum.

G-Man wrote:Sorry I didn't make more Cats rez request posts. Life got in the way.

Golden wrote:And....

Who was responsible for the attemp on scotty on night 8... was it team wildhorn all along? MM was so obsessed with an unknown force, but I think it was just wildhorn.

Golden wrote:What I want to know is how all the survivals came about?

Dom wrote:I want to say how much I appreciate your effort into this game NJU despite losing! You were amazing and JUST barely lost. I loved every single re-write you did and I sent them to my musical theater friends. ^_^

I appreciate everyone who put effort into this game. I loved hosting you.


I also want to say that there was a third prize STILL available from trivia and it would have really changed the game. It was the mystery prize, and I'm shocked no one took it. It was basically, a "what do you want for a prize? propose something and i'll consider it" prize. That could have utterly changed the game.

Epignosis wrote:I was Into the Woods first go. Second go I figured I'd just make sure there were no ties.

Died anyway.

I don't know whom I have to blow to live.

Golden wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I will never let Golden survive past Day 1 again. EVER!

Good game. Well played Golden. I let myself get duped by your accidental reversed nightkill.

I wasn't bad MM. I was indy.

Golden wrote:Dom, has the team one kill been inherited by team two?

S~V~S wrote:Well, why split it up? I think this lynch will put it all into focus for me~ if she isn't bad, there will be some splainin to do for some people, I think.

Sorry Splints if you are not bad, but I don't see the point of a tangent vote at this stage.

fingersplints wrote:RIP Cobalt
I see I have some stuff to address. will do asap

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:I like your analysis, MM, and agree with your comments on the players for DF's last teammate. I usually like to add something of my own, but...you've pretty much said what I see in the interactions, too. I suppose I'll case your interactions with DF since you didn't case yourself. It seems he kept a light suspicion on you throughout the game to save in case he needed to vote for you without explaining it too hard and looking suspicious. Doubtful that you're his teammate since he kinda sealed your non-lynch Day 13, unless there's something about the Phantom we don't know. And you voted for him first yesterday. It's not unthinkable, but I don't think you're his teammate based on what I see.

While I agree splints is not on Team Webber, I do think she's on Team 2, and would like to take them down before they kill again. Putting my vote on her now.

I think that's actually a good idea. If the last member of Webber is an inactive player, there's no hurry to lynch that player.

Now to look back and see who's been silenced each day.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Why would the last member or team Webber be inactive? The phantom has clearly been active and mentioned in night posts a lot

linki - I'm in the car traveling SVS. Trying to navigate and mafia at the same time atm lol

We just lynched DFaraday, and it's possible that he was sending the kills in for the Phantom. The only active option for the Phantom is Spacedaisy, imo, but I think an inactive is more likely.

On the other hand, we know for a fact that the Team Wildhorn killer is still active.

Black Rock wrote:Well I got lynched. Timmer was talking today which means he can't be trusted. I can't explain further but it's true. Thanks for a great game Dom.

fingersplints wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:I like your analysis, MM, and agree with your comments on the players for DF's last teammate. I usually like to add something of my own, but...you've pretty much said what I see in the interactions, too. I suppose I'll case your interactions with DF since you didn't case yourself. It seems he kept a light suspicion on you throughout the game to save in case he needed to vote for you without explaining it too hard and looking suspicious. Doubtful that you're his teammate since he kinda sealed your non-lynch Day 13, unless there's something about the Phantom we don't know. And you voted for him first yesterday. It's not unthinkable, but I don't think you're his teammate based on what I see.

While I agree splints is not on Team Webber, I do think she's on Team 2, and would like to take them down before they kill again. Putting my vote on her now.

I think that's actually a good idea. If the last member of Webber is an inactive player, there's no hurry to lynch that player.

Now to look back and see who's been silenced each day.

This doesn't make any sense to me. Why would the last member or team Webber be inactive? The phantom has clearly been active and mentioned in night posts a lot

linki - I'm in the car traveling SVS. Trying to navigate and mafia at the same time atm lol

• Color indicates probable or definite inactivity.
  * indicates a player who did not post, but did vote during a day phase.
  ** indicates a player who did not post or vote, but admitted to being silenced during the day phase.

nijuukyugou wrote:I like your analysis, MM, and agree with your comments on the players for DF's last teammate. I usually like to add something of my own, but...you've pretty much said what I see in the interactions, too. I suppose I'll case your interactions with DF since you didn't case yourself. It seems he kept a light suspicion on you throughout the game to save in case he needed to vote for you without explaining it too hard and looking suspicious. Doubtful that you're his teammate since he kinda sealed your non-lynch Day 13, unless there's something about the Phantom we don't know. And you voted for him first yesterday. It's not unthinkable, but I don't think you're his teammate based on what I see.

While I agree splints is not on Team Webber, I do think she's on Team 2, and would like to take them down before they kill again. Putting my vote on her now.

fingersplints wrote:MM it looks like you cut this quote in half and only answered the first half.

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Considering the BR never did mention DREAM or Devin, I don't see either of them being a teammate of Black Rock. I'm still excluding nijuu from the list for reasons, even though she is an active player but BR never talked to/about her. That leaves Gumshoe, TH/SVS, and fingersplints.

Not sure I understand why you're excluding DREAM and Devin here. Why would a player have to mention another player for them to possibly be associated with one another? Also, wasn't BR a corrupted townie? At what point was she corrupted, and what can we assume was the nature of that corruption?

Gumshoe --- Gumshoe and BR interacted a few times during Day 0/Day 1 during her guaranteed civilian phase. But she never did talk to him again, nor did she ever acknowledge that he had disappeared. Their interactions were not meaningful in that either one suspected the other, so it could be reasonable to assume that she just forgot about him. That said, I'd say there's a slightly stronger chance that Gumshoe is Wildhorn over Devin.

TH/SVS --- with the way BR continued to dog TH, I think she was looking for someone to frame, and an excuse to suspect him. I think SVS is not Team Wildhorn as a result of this.

fingersplints --- If we don't actually lynch an inactive today, I think BR's interactions with fingersplints are most suspicious. I haven't looked at fingersplints' side of the relationship yet, but BR's only comments with her involved lightheartedness, friendliness, and sarcasm. I find these interactions far more significant than the lack of interaction with nijuukyugou.

You describe BR's interactions with splints as "suspicious" and "significant", but I'm not really seeing reasons why you feel this way. Sure, they could have been lighthearted and friendly, but does that really suggest a partnership between the two?

Sloonei is dead now, but I'd still like you to answer.

• Day 13 - DF says Devin or Gumshoe could be bad, but that Devin is more probable.

• Day 13 - DF says Spacedaisy deserves looking at for playing relatively quiet.
  Day 13 - DF says that Spacedaisy reads as lone civ, but could be a baddie.

• Day 2 - DF says he expects to hear more meaningful content from her.
  Day 5 - DF says fingersplints could be a member of Team Webber because of her late vote in the lynch of sig.
  Day 5 - DF responds to a question from Sloonei asking about fingersplints. DF says he reads slightly bad on her. Since sig was lynched earlier and G-Man was just lynched, would DF throw his only other teammate under the bus so quickly?
  Day 5 - DF corrects his previous statement, suspecting fingersplints for her late vote on sig, not LC (she never voted Long Con anyway). This correction came about 12 hours later, though it was a self-correction.
  Day 9 - DF responds to a statement from fingersplints, answering her question and calling her on her LC vote.
  Day 9 - DF agrees with nijuu's suspicion of fingersplints.
  Day 9 - DF reaffirms his suspicion of fingersplints.
  Day 10 - DF votes for fingersplints. This is the first time in the game he had voted for her.
  Day 11 - DF votes for fingersplints again.
  Day 11 - DF says fingersplints is probably bad for hopping on the nutella wagon.
  Day 11 - DF states he thinks fingersplints is possibly on Team Webber.
  Day 12 - DF votes Neverwhere, then states that fingersplints could possibly be her teammate.
  Day 13 - DF votes for fingersplints again.
  Day 13 - DF says fingersplints deserves looking at for playing relatively quiet. He goes on to accuse her for her vote record and blendiness.
  Day 14 - DF says that fingersplints would be another good option to lynch this day.

• Day 3 - DF says he is glad Golden survived the nightkill, because he feels civ about him. Team Wildhorn attempted to nightkill Golden this night, so we know it was not DF's team that did so.
  Day 3 - DF agrees with MM with regards to a case from Golden that using content outside the thread is "not in the spirit of mafia".
  Day 3 - DF responds again to Golden, admitting the case on TGG/G-Man is solid, just malignant.
  Day 3 - DF calls Golden civilian again.
  Day 9 - DF says he does not agree with the theory of a Golden/nijuu baddie team and that he thinks Golden is still civ.
  Day 13 - DF questions Golden for claiming that Sloonei, nijuu, and himself are all civ.
  Day 13 - DF calls Golden civ again.
  Day 14 - DF defends himself from Golden's case.
  Day 14 - DF starts to wonder about Golden since he is still alive.
  Day 14 - DF searches for a reason to suspect Golden, since no one seems to have one.
  Day 14 - DF says he would feel alright lynching Golden, despite a long history of civ reads.

• Day 13 - DF says Devin or Gumshoe could be bad, but that Devin is more probable.
  Day 14 - DF votes for Gumshoe.

• Day 3 - DF agrees with MM that using content outside the thread is "not in the spirit of mafia".
  Day 4 - DF disagrees with MM about his "tunneling" of Long Con.
  Day 5 - DF states that it is unlikely that MM is on Team Wildhorn, but could be on Team Webber, based on his early vote of Long Con and his late vote of sig.
  Day 5 - DF mentions again that MM is on his list of suspects (though lower on the list than some).
  Day 6 - DF includes MM on his baddie list again, but would like to hear more from him.
  Day 12 - DF mentions an offhand suspicon of MM, but says he will get back to it later.
  Day 13 - DF says he will look at MM on the following day.
  Day 13 - DF acknowledges MM as a major topic of discussion, and one he needs to go back and reread.
  Day 13 - DF votes for MM out of self-preservation.
  Day 14 - DF responds to a question from MM.

• Day 5 - DF says nijuu could be a member of Team Webber because of her late vote in the lynch of sig.
  Day 6 - DF offers a reason to suspect nijuu, for her votes of both Long Con and G-Man. But then he says he reads her as civ for her suspicion of Epig 2.0 (a player DF had no read on at the time).
  Day 7 - DF says he still has nijuu on his suspect list.
  Day 8 - DF says that nijuu has "acquitted herself" of his suspicion.
  Day 8 - DF defends his read of nijuu from SVS.
  Day 9 - DF says he is suspicious of nijuu again because of her vote history.
  Day 9 - DF says he thinks nijuu is civ, and agrees with her arguments about fingersplints.
  Day 9 - DF defends his read of nijuu from SVS's accusation again.
  Day 11 - DF says that nijuu is probably bad for her vote of nutella.
  Day 11 - DF states he thinks nijuu is possibly on Team Webber.
  Day 12 - DF votes Neverwhere, then states that nijuu could possibly be her teammate.
  Day 13 - DF says if everyone thinks that nijuu is civ, then she must be civ.

• Day 8 - DF responds to a sharp inquisition from SVS.
  Day 9 - DF addresses SVS's comment about nijuu, asking her for clarification on it.
  Day 9 - DF responds to SVS's accusations over his waffling of nijuu.
  Day 9 - DF responds to another interrogation from SVS, explaining that fingersplints and nutella were his top baddie reads.
  Day 13 - DF says SVS deserves looking at for playing relatively quiet. But then he backs off, saying that he hasn't thought much about her.
  Day 13 - DF says SVS is a mystery to read, but could be a baddie.
  Day 14 - DF asks SVS to explain her read of MM.
  Day 14 - DF responds to a question from SVS, but also questions a relationship between her and MM.

Dom wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:@Dom. Will we be told when a baddie team is eliminated?

Yes. You will.

S~V~S wrote:Dom, will we be told if a baddie team is eliminated? Not sure if this has been asked yet.

And Golden, I thought DF would not try to kill me as it would be too obvious, and that is not his style. It IS your style, which is why I thought you more likely to have been the killer than DF.

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Considering the BR never did mention DREAM or Devin, I don't see either of them being a teammate of Black Rock. I'm still excluding nijuu from the list for reasons, even though she is an active player but BR never talked to/about her. That leaves Gumshoe, TH/SVS, and fingersplints.

Not sure I understand why you're excluding DREAM and Devin here. Why would a player have to mention another player for them to possibly be associated with one another? Also, wasn't BR a corrupted townie? At what point was she corrupted, and what can we assume was the nature of that corruption?

Sloonei wrote:also, why black rock?

Sloonei wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Does anyone else think that now is a good time to start talking about lynching one of the inactives?

We're all getting pretty close to becoming inactives.

I think you mean xD

Sloonei wrote:Does anyone else think that now is a good time to start talking about lynching one of the inactives?

S~V~S wrote:Doh I guess Faraday did try to kill me Lol.