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by Marmot
Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:53 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

MovingPictures07 in Spectator Chat wrote:When changeable votes started to be experimented with, by Epi if I remember correctly, I hated them. Seemed like a more baddie-friendly feature than civilian-friendly to me.

Since playing on RYM and other sites throughout 2015, I began to see the merit of changeable votes, and over time I've actually warmed up to them, and now I prefer them. Never thought that day would ever come... it took some time to convince me of their benefit, but playing on RYM especially I saw how changeable votes allow civilians to better put pressure on players and more flexibly vote up through EoD. They also can be effectively used to make mafia uncomfortable as much as, if not more than, civilians. In addition, they can be cast when players are afraid of missing the deadline, but changed if that player does in fact make it before EoD, a situation I've been in before and sometimes wished I could change my vote when votes were nonchangeable. That said, there are definitely pros and cons for both.

Also, regarding Ricochet's weird behavior, has anyone considered that he might be Sidoh from Death Note?
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Independent (1)
Sidoh wins if he both makes his existence known to everyone and retrieves his Death Note from whoever has it; assuming he has completed both, he can then win with any team.
Sidoh – A shinigami whose Death Note was stolen, he searches for Ryuk every night to retrieve his notebook. If he finds Mello, something happens. As a shinigami, he cannot be harmed by humans, nor can he be seen by humans who have not made contact with his Death Note. Because he is a shinigami, votes by humans in lynches do not affect him, and writing his name down in a Death Note will not kill him. Thus, he cannot be lynched or night killed. However, if he is about to be killed for the second time, although he will still not die, his existence will be made aware to everyone, outing him. Every night he searches for his Death Note, which was stolen by Ryuk. If he finds Mello, Sidoh reveals himself to Mello and they gain BTSC. Every night he must also pick four roles and publicly reveal their secrets so that everyone is made aware; all of these selections cannot be from the same team, unless only one team has secrets remaining. Once Sidoh finds his Death Note, he steals it from its current owner, ending that player's ability to kill with the notebook. As a shinigami, like Ryuk, he does not kill players using his notebook. After he has revealed all of the role secrets, more secrets are revealed, but are represented in tildes. These additional secrets are secrets that were not explicit in each player's role PM, and thus the player who has that role may or may not be aware of them. Any letters revealed among the tildes are only made known to Sidoh, not publicly. Every time Sidoh successfully solves a role's additional secrets behind the scenes, those secrets are revealed publicly in full. For every role's secrets that Sidoh solves with four or less revealed letters, both Sidoh and the player whose additional role secrets he has solved, assuming that player is still alive, gain an extra vote to be used secretly in any subsequent lynch.
The role would have to be edited to fit this game, but it's the 2015 role possibility that most explains his current behavior IMO. Turnip Head had this role in the original game, and he posted nearly 1,000 posts by the game's completion, and successfully was able to get himself lynched twice in order to satisfy his win condition.
Well, you were right that Sidoh was trying to get lynched Day 1. :noble:
by Marmot
Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:39 pm
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Oh wait, didn't see the llama hiding in the back of the "Winner" banners.

Thank you for the banner Long Con. Thanks again for the game and the effort hosts and fellow players. :beer:
by Marmot
Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:37 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Sidoh somehow made it onto all of the banners. :nicenod:
by Marmot
Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:38 pm
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Golden wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:DH wanted to lynch me so bad but he just couldn't do it. :grin: :grin: :grin:
That four way lynch still keeps me awake at night.

Never have I been so frustrated at being able to play only on my phone lol.
It was a site to behold. I don't think it's something that we will ever encounter again, even if we tried.
by Marmot
Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:07 pm
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 7 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Also, me dropping hints that I was Sidoh, but nobody picking up on them (I don't think).
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I am Ryuk. Discuss.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm only roleclaiming if you give me chocolate.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I do feel more mellow now that DH doesn't want to lynch me though.
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Long Con wrote:What is this fruit thing??!
Certain roles are supposed to like a certain fruit, if said certain roles exist in this game. I've basically tried to get some role hints by asking about the "fruit thing".
I am a fan of cider though. :nicenod:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Do I sound like the same MM from Death Note? Perhaps.

You and Ricochet should have a discussion about that. And maybe DharmaHelper too. :nicenod:
by Marmot
Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:03 am
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Yeah, the Pikmin. :D

Ricochet is like "WTF, why are you voting for Black Rock?" I respond "Mate, I might get something nice".
by Marmot
Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:54 am
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Matt wrote:Lol I think Marmot deserves a win anyway.

Btw Marmot, Mac wanted to hold you at gunpoint when I got btsc with you rofl. "Just threaten to kill him and make him join us" bwahahaha. Mac is ruthless.
I wish you had. I couldn't be nightkilled that night anyway. :haha:
by Marmot
Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:17 am
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Turnip Head wrote:It's not just for spirit :P You achieved your win condition. It wasn't clear what would happen with fewer than two players, and it would have made no sense NOT to clarify it the way I did above.
Haha, true. Regardless, I appreciate it very much. I'll be sure to write a Survival guide to mafia that follows these guidelines.

Night 0 ---> Day 1: Do everything in your power to get yourself lynched (but don't actually get lynched). People ignore obvious scumslips when they actually happen, and only tend to care days later.

Day 2 ---> Day 4 : Act like you have no idea how to play mafia. Not only that, pretend you don't even know you're posting in a mafia thread. People will take a little while to notice this behavior, and the mafia teams won't kill you because you're entertaining. Claim neutral if you're feeling a little too uncomfortable with this stage.

Day 5 ---> Day 7: Around Night 4/Day 5, slowly begin to transition your behavior to actual mafia suspicions and on-topic discussion. Not only this but make sure that every single one of your suspects is a civilian, and also make sure you make a couple of crucial, late-day votes. This is important. Civilians are sometimes wrong, so you must show some mortality, and mafia won't have any interest in nightkilling such a terrible civilian. If you time it just right, people won't get the chance to mention your previous useless behavior.

Day 8 ---> Onward: Now's where you have to work hard. You need to net yourself a nice baddie lynch (preferably a close one), and put your vote on it. At this point in the game, people will be looking at you and your terrible record. Since many folks will want to lynch you, mafia won't bother killing you. All you've gotta do is keep on lynching baddies, and eventually folks will come around. You don't have to do all the work, just make sure those baddies hit the floor.

With this, you will finish the game very much alive. :P
by Marmot
Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:49 am
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Turnip Head wrote:Honestly MM if I had considered it (I didn't think it was a possible scenario tbh), I would have clarified your win condition to be"at least two or ALL living players must have voted for you". I know you told me you don't think you deserve the win but I disagree. You were under fire most of the game and at one point with like 7 or 8 players left you had managed to get all of them to vote for you. And just like the original Sidoh you tried to help the civvies win, even though you had no reason to (and were ultimately unsuccessful). :P

You had a difficult win condition, you were ready to give up but you kept going and you gave it everything you had. The win is yours if you want it.
These are the best hosts ever! Handing out wins for technicalities and for spirit. :biggrin: If you're offering, I will graciously accept it.

I thought about PM'ing you with this exact question on Day 12, but decided I didn't want to know the answer, and just play for the civ win instead.
by Marmot
Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:32 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Turnip Head wrote:
Matt wrote:Hosts - If MM had switched to FZ, would he and Sorsha have won?
Yep. That's the ending I originally wrote, you three skipped off into the sunset with each other. Even with MM's vote on Sorsha, FZ would have been lynched because Sorsha decided ties. But then MM sent in his extra vote one minute before the deadline XD
Literally seconds. :disappoint:
by Marmot
Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:42 pm
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Also, I think Rico actually broke everything in his house including his computer.
by Marmot
Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:53 pm
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Draconus wrote:
juliets wrote:I think someone asked but i didn't see an answer: Who targeted motel room for a kill? It wasn't the normal baddie nk.
That was my banishing ability. I had a 1 in 6 chance of killing the person I banished. Hamburger Boy I believe was my only successful kill.
Funny thing about Motel Room being targeted: DH sent that in because I was super busy at work. I can back just a few minutes too late and submitted Matt for the banishing. If that had gone through, it would have been a totally different ending :grin:
Motel room voted in the Day 7 lynch poll, so we assumed it wasn't you, and someone else. :ponder:
by Marmot
Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:50 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

For those who care to hear why I was bamboozled by Matt, here's the story:


Matt voted Long Con in the Night 10 poll, and so was able to get BTSC with any player he wanted for a day. He picked me. I was a little surprised by this, but at this point in the game, I knew that if Matt was civ, there's no way he could still have any sort of suspicion of me, so that maybe he wanted to let me know he changed his mind. At the time, I still thought he was bad though, so I was wary entering BTSC.

He immediately asked for my role. I didn't reveal it initially, asked him to reveal his first. Matt claimed he was the Grim Shaman from World Reborn, and a civvie. It sounded reasonable. He then explained that his role power, which matched somewhat that of the Grim Shaman. Each day that a player is lynched, Matt can use that player's power at night. Once in the game, he can use a nightkilled player's power.

Then here's where I fell hook, line, and sinker. Matt proceeded to fabricate a story for the ages, giving a pretty accurate description of what he had done up until this point in the game. I'll make it a list.
  • Night 1: Says he gained no power because Ricochet didn't really have a power. Makes sense.
  • Night 2: Says he was able to create a shield, and did so, giving it to himself and using it Night 3. Sounded reasonable.
  • Night 3: Says he targeted Dr. Wilgy to see if he went anywhere. I was surprised Matt didn't check me, but Matt gave me this story about how he's always wrong about Wilgy, so felt the need to check him.
  • Night 4: Says he was vanilla because llama hadn't activated his ability yet. I questioned him on this one, because I figured llama had killed Night 3. But Matt hinted I woulda been dead if he had gotten one, so I lol'd and let it go.
  • Night 5: Says his vote got +1'd from the Tranq lynch, but Matt missed the vote the next day, so it made it worthless.
  • Night 6: Says he got BTSC with juliets. I should have asked for a transcript, but ah well. I also should have wondered, since Matt said he got BTSC with a player who later died. Matt said the BTSC did not go well, but he explained everything anyway (though he was under the mask of the Chatterbox).
  • Day 7: Here's where it gets good. After Dom was nightkilled, Matt said he used Dom's power to learn Sorsha's role, which he informed me was Gustav Shrik, from Harry Stephen Keeler, a llama game. Matt then pointed to two instances in the thread (here and here) where he hinted to Sorsha that he knew her role. He also told me that he learned Sorsha was a civ, and for that reason, he knew that Dom could learn alignments when checking players. It was a good story. Matt didn't actually hint to her until Day 9, but it still came before Matt would have had any idea he'd get BTSC with another player, so it looked real.
  • Night 7: Matt says he targeted nijuukygou with the question curse. After falling for the Sorsha bit, I was ready to believe anything Matt said, so I bought it.
  • Night 8: No lynch, so no power.
  • Night 9: Matt said he tried to target me, but I was not vote-blocked or anything. Juliets had a roleblocking role, so I just reasoned it was that.
  • Night 10: Says he targeted himself Night 10 to remove a lynch vote from himself.
Anyway, the above was a really good story. Not perfect in retrospect, but certainly very believable. It was the reason I couldn't bring myself to actually vote Matt on the final day.

Matt said he got a protect on Night 11. We discussed who to protect. At that point, I thought bea was the final baddie, as did Matt. We knew Sorsha could not be nightkill because she was targeted the previous night. I explained to Matt that I had a Pikmin power on me, so I could not die. We knew that FZ had voted for the Mechaspark role, so we presumed that she got a shield out of it, and probably used it on herself. That left Matt no choices for the protect, except for the suspect in bea. I thought about telling Matt to protect her anyway, but I never said it. Anyway, bea was eventually nightkilled, which did make me second-guess Matt for a bit. I knew that he knew that bea was the only player who would be successfully nightkilled, and thus his only option. Had I told him to protect bea, either I would have found out he was full of shit, or he woulda targeted myself or FZ instead, resulting in no death.

Also, I gave Sorsha a similar hint that Matt did that I knew her role. I took her response as confirmation. Because I did, I found myself late believing she was bad, having a role from a llama game. That coupled with a few other things determined my vote.


Anyway, well played Matt. :clap: You all can call me foolish, naive Marmot now. I deserve it.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:44 pm
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Oh my god, that Night 9 poll.

Sorsha, I'm sorry I robbed you of a win. But you killed me in World Reborn so now we're even. :P
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:45 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Also, I thought about telling Matt to protect bea Night 11 instead of FZ, just on the off-chance we were wrong, but Matt had left for work.

That would have actually been a huge deciding factor I thin.
Matt was the one who killed Bea iirc.
I know. If I told him to use a protect he said he had on her, and she died anyway, I would have thought differently when Day 12 started.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:35 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Also, I thought about telling Matt to protect bea Night 11 instead of FZ, just on the off-chance we were wrong, but Matt had left for work.

That would have actually been a huge deciding factor I thin.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:33 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

I also have no idea how or why motel room was lynched Day 10. Was that Sorsha's doing?
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:29 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

juliets wrote:Oh metalmarsh, when I said I thought you were a very bad indy I was thinking you were the Hunger (from Recruitment) because I had just been hungered to get FZ lynched in 3 days. (I read FZ as civ though and never did even try figuring if I got her lynched and then I would get lynched we would lose 2 civs. If I didn't do anything I would die, which I did, but that was only 1 civ). As it turned out, hungering was on one of the team's position wheel.
It's no problem, it comes with the territory. :beer:

I tried to get lynched Day 1: that didn't work.

I could only win by surviving and having two other players alive who had also voted for me during the game. As a result, I had a motivation to get votes early in the game :P, and then had to fight my way back into better standing. It was difficult. I thought I was a shoe-in to be lynched Day 3, andI was ready to give up early on in the game, but TH helped motivate me back into the swing.

I wasn't lying at any point when I said I wanted the civilians to win though. That was my self-declared mission, not unlike what Sorsha did.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:18 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Epignosis wrote:I played an amazing game. :meany:
You helped convince me in the closing second that FZ was a civilian. :haha:
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:16 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Anyway, thanks TH and SVS for hosting such a marvelous game. You guys did fantastically, and definitely were able to garner a lot of effort from the players. I know that neither the civilians nor the Indys won, but I think we fought valiantly, especially in the second half of the game. Thanks for keeping the game running smoothly, and keeping us motivated, and for dropping bea in a pit of nubness. I should be dropped in next.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:11 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

S~V~S wrote:But why would someone pretend to be silenced at the end of the game? I think people think people are pretending to be *watever* than those that are actually pretending.

I have never pretended to be cursed/silenced whatever. Have you?

TH explains it better than I could ^^ up a few posts.
I've considered it, but never done it.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:10 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Turnip Head wrote:Sorsha you played an amazing game, I had a great time watching you in action. You did more behind the scenes work to help the civs than nearly anyone else. It's simple bad luck that you didn't win.

And sorry for the silencing :( SVS and I went out of our way to not include any silencers in the game, but the Llamas had access to a posting curse, and Matt decided to curse you into not posting the last Day. The curse was open ended and SVS and I did not have time to discuss whether or not to allow it before we had to enact it. I feel pretty terrible that it slipped through and caused you to not be able to defend yourself, though I'm surprised they ended up lynching you, as if you would fake such a thing at endgame.
Obviously I was wrong, but that was exactly why I thought Sorsha was faking it, because you didn't include silencers in the game.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:08 pm
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Topic: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Turnip Head wrote:Sorsha you played an amazing game, I had a great time watching you in action. You did more behind the scenes work to help the civs than nearly anyone else. It's simple bad luck that you didn't win.

And sorry for the silencing :( SVS and I went out of our way to not include any silencers in the game, but the Llamas had access to a posting curse, and Matt decided to curse you into not posting the last Day. The curse was open ended and SVS and I did not have time to discuss whether or not to allow it before we had to enact it. I feel pretty terrible that it slipped through and caused you to not be able to defend yourself, though I'm surprised they ended up lynching you, as if you would fake such a thing at endgame.
Son-of-a-.....
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:06 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

S~V~S wrote:I don't get why people thought Sorsha was not actually silenced?
Because she didn't vote at the beginning of the day phase. That seemed off.

She didn't spam other parts of the site until after I mentioned her inactivity.

Also, Matt told me that she was Gustav Shrik from Harry Stephen Keeler. I had no idea where the silencing could have come from. Why was she silenced?
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:57 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

This what you all get for not lynching me the first 20 times you tried. :meany:
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:53 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Fuckin' Matt.
No fucking you.If you had not sent in that last second vote, both You & Sorsha would have won, too. :haha:
You know me. My natural talent is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. :P
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:52 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

And I was just a vanilla neutral, lol.


Good game baddies, very well-played. Especially you Matt. I was right that you absolutely could only have killed bea, but you completely pulled the wool over my eyes in BTSC yesterday. Well played. :beer: You deserve it.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:48 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Fuckin' Matt.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:48 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Day 12 has ended. The omelet is dead. Papryco is your GoC loser.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:40 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Signed, sealed, and delivered. Go civs (and Indys)!
Oooh now you're an Indy!
:SVS:
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:39 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Signed, sealed, and delivered. Go civs (and Indys)!
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:37 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet wrote:ONE MINUTE. I WANNA DIE. :scared:
You died 11 days ago you hollow-eyed skeleton.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:36 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Also please tell me that whoever wins the lynch is lynchable. I don't know if I can take another day phase like this.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:31 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Sorsha has moved her vote around, but I can't tell where.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:28 pm
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Re: Day 3.5 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

And this is why I'm not voting FZ now.
Epignosis wrote:Well you're all losers.

FZ. is not Mafia because she replaced Elohcin.

Elohcin loves BTSC. She wouldn't quit if she had it. She'd be in there talking about...kids and bedspreads or some shit.

But the fact is she's out.

FZ. is a alone.

You're welcome.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:27 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Sorsha again. This time I mean it.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:25 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

But Dr Wilgy and Sorsha are peeking at the thread at the same time. :O

OMG the WIFOM :omg:
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:24 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Let the baddies hit the floor... Pretty please.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:22 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet wrote:Enjoy your decision. Nobody will hate you for it, if it's the losing one. :beer:

More than me, I mean. :hollowsanseyes:
Well by golly, I hope I'm right. :beer:
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:18 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I still don't get how FZ mentioned what Sorsha would do. HOW could she have both vote coersion and vote manipulation in her role?? I was ready to say Sorsha is faking a move with the self-vote, yet again, but FZ.'s post throws that completely in the air.
It looks like that post was a reaction to Matt voting FZ. I'm not sure it's as foreboding as you are reading it.
Really?

If that chain of reaction is true, then she said "Now Sorsha will come and vote for herself."

Not "Sorsha came and voted for herself."
She said "Sorsha can come in and vote for herself". A slight difference.
Why would Sorsha "come in" and choose to "vote for herself", if she was leading 2-1, before voting?
I got nothing.

There have been some things that point to an FZ baddie. There have been some things that point to a Sorsha baddie. I still can't shake the feeling that Sorsha's pulling a fast one on us, but I think you might be correct in that FZ knows and let on that she forced Sorsha's vote.

But why vote Sorsha to vote herself if FZ is suspicious of Matt coming into the day phase?
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:15 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

I switched to FZ. My gut tells me it's her.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:12 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I still don't get how FZ mentioned what Sorsha would do. HOW could she have both vote coersion and vote manipulation in her role?? I was ready to say Sorsha is faking a move with the self-vote, yet again, but FZ.'s post throws that completely in the air.
It looks like that post was a reaction to Matt voting FZ. I'm not sure it's as foreboding as you are reading it.
Really?

If that chain of reaction is true, then she said "Now Sorsha will come and vote for herself."

Not "Sorsha came and voted for herself."
She said "Sorsha can come in and vote for herself". A slight difference.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:09 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Sorsha, if you are reading along, can you briefly vote for your top suspect right now?
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:06 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Now Sorsha is here.

Her behavior is just too fishy to ignor.e
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:05 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet wrote:I still don't get how FZ mentioned what Sorsha would do. HOW could she have both vote coersion and vote manipulation in her role?? I was ready to say Sorsha is faking a move with the self-vote, yet again, but FZ.'s post throws that completely in the air.
It looks like that post was a reaction to Matt voting FZ. I'm not sure it's as foreboding as you are reading it.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:03 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet wrote:Talk it through with Matt. Get some sense into him, like for instance to stop tunneling on one fucking detail in the entire fucking game.

linki: What's your conclusion, then? Wasn't D11 3-2 Mac vs. Matt, with your vote on Mac?

Tell me how FZ. can be bad in what she implied there, by asking you NOT to switch from Mac. Aka confirmed MacBaddie.
You said FZ said "Please don't save my teamie"

I don't think that's true, because I just don't think FZ is Mac's teamie. I agree with the other parts you said, that it is a point in her favor, especially since I can verify.

Also, I actually think that bea may have targeted FZ last night, because my vote carries some weight again today.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:59 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ricochet, this would be why.
FZ. wrote:All those quotes are making feel like sharing something too. MM, last day, there was a reason I told you I trusted you to not disappoint us and vote for the right person. Let's just say your vote carried a lot of weight.

linki: I was considering that possibility. But then, would MM really have to fake being so confused between us for so long? I don't think so.
Isn't that post in favor of FZ? "MM, the vote is currently, seemingly 3-2 for Mac. Please don't switch."

So she basically said "please don't save my teamie"? :confused:
What? I don't understand this conclusion.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:56 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Help.
by Marmot
Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:52 pm
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Re: Day 12 ~ 2015 Game of Champions

Ricochet, this would be why.
FZ. wrote:All those quotes are making feel like sharing something too. MM, last day, there was a reason I told you I trusted you to not disappoint us and vote for the right person. Let's just say your vote carried a lot of weight.

linki: I was considering that possibility. But then, would MM really have to fake being so confused between us for so long? I don't think so.

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