The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:32 pmK.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:52 pm @Kylemii

Why did you vote for Quin?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:17 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:16 pm I'm sorry Quin. :/

I'm not talking to you anymore.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:03 pm oh i have 3 minutes

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:59 pm @Kylemii GET OFF THE FRONT PAGE THIS INSTANT

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:41 pm Sure, I like dogs. I like caravans more.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:09 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:05 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:32 amKyle: Blah blah dags (Unhelpful imo but I don't know Kyle enough to say if this is alignment indicative.

Hurtful.

agreed. Another dog basher like MP and look how MP flipped.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:32 amKyle: Blah blah dags (Unhelpful imo but I don't know Kyle enough to say if this is alignment indicative.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:41 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:12 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:54 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:14 pm I guess the main question of the day is, why didn't a baddie-motivated MP just vote to kill Quin so he could survive for himself and also his team?

Talking about D1 here, right?

I don't know. Even if it wouldn't have worked with his reads very well, voting for self-pres gives him at least another assured day. There's no reason D1 should have ended in a three way tie.

And he moved to Wilgy at the last second, not Quin.

I've got a town read on Quin, but that don't look good.

What are you referring to here?

3 way lynch tie on D1.

After the deadline (but before the mod post), MP moved to vote Wilgy.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:03 pm Complaints:
People not calling their votes since polls aren't in order anymore.

Epi said a bad word.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:54 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:14 pm I guess the main question of the day is, why didn't a baddie-motivated MP just vote to kill Quin so he could survive for himself and also his team?

Talking about D1 here, right?

I don't know. Even if it wouldn't have worked with his reads very well, voting for self-pres gives him at least another assured day. There's no reason D1 should have ended in a three way tie.

And he moved to Wilgy at the last second, not Quin.

I've got a town read on Quin, but that don't look good.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:41 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:22 pm Ok I'm generally feeling good but Dunya's posts but I'm pinged that she came and started buddying me on my suspicion of MP and repeating the same arguments as me without actually voting for MP herself. Reeks of bandwagoning.

Why? He was my second suspect. Kyle was my first. I made that pretty clear. I voted for Kyle and stuck with Kyle all the way through until I led the vote tally with 3 votes against me suddenly started by MP and Quin and speedchuck, who followed.

Kyle was the only one I voted for, MP was the one my spped vote was locked on at the end.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:00 pm

LC - NL (NL - 1)
MP - LC (NL - 1, LC - 1)
Speedchuck - dunya (NL - 1, LC - 1, dunya 1)
Quin- NL (NL - 2, LC - 1, dunya 1)
LC - DDL (NL - 1, LC - 1, dunya 1, DDL 1)
MP - DrWilgy (NL - 1, wilgy - 1, dunya 1, DDL 1)
MP - Daisy (NL - 1, daisy - 1, dunya 1, DDL 1)
speedchuck - Sig (NL - 1, daisy - 1, Sig 1, DDL 1)
DDL - Sig (NL - 1, daisy - 1, Sig 2, DDL 1)
DDL - Quin (NL - 1, daisy - 1, Sig 1, DDL 1, Quin 1)
MP - Kylemii (NL - 1, kyle - 1, Sig 1, DDL 1, Quin 1)
Dr WIlgy - MP (NL - 1, kyle - 1, Sig 1, DDL 1, MP 1, Quin 1)
MP - NewTraditions (NL - 1, NT - 1, Sig 1, DDL 1, MP 1, Quin 1)
Kyle - MP (NL - 1, NT - 1, Sig 1, DDL 1, MP 2, Quin 1)
LC - MP (NL - 1, NT - 1, Sig 1, MP 3, Quin 1)
MP - NL (NL - 2, Sig 1, MP 3, Quin 1)
MP - Quin (NL - 1, Sig 1, MP 3, Quin 2)
MP - DDL (NL - 1, Sig 1, MP 3, Quin 1, DDL 1)
Quin - MP (Sig 1, MP 4, Quin 1, DDL 1)
DDL - DrWilgy (Sig 1, MP 4, Wilgy 1, DDL 1)
speedchuck - wilgy (MP 4, Wilgy 2, DDL 1)
Quin - wilgy (MP 3, Wilgy 3, DDL 1)
SD - DDL (MP 3, Wilgy 3, DDL 2)
Quin - Dunya (MP 3, Wilgy 2, DDL 2, Dunya 1)
Quin - Wilgy (MP 3, Wilgy 3, DDL 2)
Dr. Wilgy - DDL (MP 2, Wilgy 3, DDL 3)
Late and didn't count:
MP - Wilgy (MP 2, Wilgy 4, DDL 2)

Partial vote tally after each vote.

Missing dunyavotes and who knows who else's.

Correct me if I got anything wrong because this one is pretty easy to get wrong.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:39 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:34 pm LC - NL 30 12:09pm
MP - LC 30 12:19p
Speedchuck - dunya 30 1245p
Quin- NL 30 1252
LC - DDL 30 7:28p
MP - DrWilgy 30 848p
MP - Daisy 30 918p
speedchuck - Sig 30 1052a
DDL - Sig 31 3:47a
Dr. Wilgy 31 1:37p
DDL - Quin 31 2:52p
MP - Kylemii 31 550p
Dr WIlgy - MP 31 554p
MP - NewTraditions 615p
Kyle - MP 1 12:01p
LC - MP 1 135p
MP - NL 1 153p
MP - Quin 1 1:56p
MP - DDL 1 215p
Quin - MP? 1 247p
DDL - DrWilgy 1 2:48p
speedchuck - wilgy 1 253p
Quin - wilgy 254p
SD - DDL 1 251p
Quin - Dunya 257p
Quin - Wilgy 300p
Dr. Wilgy - DDL 1 300p (probably?)
Late and didn't count:
MP - Wilgy 1 3:01
maybe others????

dunya - i don't know when or where dunya voted but her final vote was for MP, there were also maybe other dunya votes mixed in that are missing here? also possibly other votes from other people as well???

updated

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:34 pm LC - NL 30 12:09pm
MP - LC 30 12:19p
Speedchuck - dunya 30 1245p
Quin- NL 30 1252
LC - DDL 30 7:28p
MP - DrWilgy 30 848p
MP - Daisy 30 918p
speedchuck - Sig 30 1052a
DDL - Sig 31 3:47a
Dr. Wilgy 31 1:37p
DDL - Quin 31 2:52p
MP - Kylemii 31 550p
Dr WIlgy - MP 31 554p
MP - NewTraditions 615p
Kyle - MP 1 12:01p
LC - MP 1 135p
MP - NL 1 153p
MP - Quin 1 1:56p
MP - DDL 1 215p
Quin - MP? 1 247p
DDL - DrWilgy 1 2:48p
speedchuck - wilgy 1 253p
Quin - wilgy 254p
SD - DDL 1 251p
Quin - Dunya 257p
Dr. Wilgy - DDL 1 300p (probably?)
Late and didn't count:
MP - Wilgy 1 3:01
maybe others????

dunya - i don't know when or where dunya voted but her final vote was for MP, there were also maybe other dunya votes mixed in that are missing here? also possibly other votes from other people as well???

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:10 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:04 pm Something that bugged me about the last day phase was the way MP was acting so panicked about getting lynched when he was in 2nd place to Quin

Something that bugged me part 2: was the way Quin pushed me to explain the ping of suspicion towards him and then Speedchuck used that as the definitive reference to discredit the case against Quin

I read MP the opposite way for that. I felt the burning passion of a flaming sock trying to make something happen on Day 1. I don't see why being in 2nd place matters much, especially since in yesterdays case the top lynch contender only had 4 votes at its peak. Lots of room for shenanigans.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:01 pm I'm taking a break, these are the vote posts please let me know if i missed anything, or if you have anything to add

Spoiler: show

NewTraditionalist
No Vote

SpankGangsta
No Vote

Kyle

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:01 pm my wifi is acting wonky rn so i'm putting my vote on MP for now. i won't necessarily keep it there, i just don't want to miss the vote

DDL

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:52 pm Quin is focusing so much on the merits of fake claiming I'm getting the feeling he's doing that as an excuse not to hunt baddies.

*votes Quin*

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:48 pm Ok Im still here.

I dont like this day end.

I dont like how quin and mp are not voting each oter.

Cfd on wilgy guys?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:47 am Voting Sig.

SD

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:51 pm My gut still says DDL. When I read his ISO one of the things I noticed was that early on he was pushing other people for reads when he himself had not provided any. Additionally, his back pedalling on Sig and now his treatment of the Quin/MP situation. I feel like he is hedging. I'm voting DDL.

Sig

sig wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:00 pm Can't talk in class will explain vote later (Quin)

Long Con

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:09 pm Voting No Lynch, because I only like to see people walk the plank. Lynching is is distasteful.

Linki: Also G-Man is scary.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:28 pm Eeeennh... let's see how DDL flips before we condemn you for this one.

Voting DDL. He's scum.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:35 pm

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy
1
Voters: Long Con

Kylemii
1
Voters: dunya

MovingPictures07
2
Voters: Kylemii, DrWilgy

NewTraditionalist
2
Voters: MovingPictures07, sig

Quin
2
Voters: speedchuck, Dragon D. Luffy

No Lynch
1
Voters: Quin

There's a snapshot of the lynch before I cast my final vote and go to work. Three vote leaders at this time, and MP07 is my biggest suspect among those three. I will change my vote to MP07, and It's not going to change.

Dr.Wilgy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:59 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 amIs Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.

Just because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.

Now I'm working on something else

What specifically do you want out of me?

(Kyle)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:59 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:54 pm Oh I see I’m joining a wagon

Still going ti keep my vote there but I don’t think we should let anyone become a consensus or avoid putting pressure on as many people as possible. Spread the love around. Lol

(MovingPictures07

I don't know after that but he ended up with his vote on DDL, maybe here?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:00 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:37 pm Dragon D. Luffy - Posts
Quin - Posts

Speedchuck

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:45 pm 1 little, 2 little, 3 little MP posts
4 little, 5 little, 6 little MP posts

Actually, a no lynch gives town some time to get free info if there is an info role. Quick math:

No lynch:
D1: 10 players
D2: 9 Players
D3: 7 Players
D4: 5 Players
D5: 3 Players (LYLO if 1 scum)
D6: Scum overrun if we get here and game isn't over.

Lynch on D1:
D1: 10 Players
D2: 8 Players
D3: 6 Players
D4: 4 Players (MYLO if one scum)
D5: 2 Players Scum overrun if we get here and game isn't over.

So in each case, ignoring D1 on the no-lynch side, town gets the same number of days to try and lynch the scummers. No matter how many scum there are. For every scum, take off a day's worth o' time. See how it works? An' the No Lynch D1 gives townies more info on their allotted lynch days.

HOWEVER!

This only works perfect if'n we got no doctors, vigs, or scumblockers. So I'm more inclined to lynch a scallywag on the bright and early day.
Long Con, what say ye ta that?

Shiver me timbers if'n I ain't about to throw a vote on me swabbie Dunya, fer the brine'd do 'im good I reckon!

linki: I am a cat. I swat at people until they respond, and then run away.
I kid. I have no idea what my gameplay style is. I've been told it's analytical, with a lot of chewing over motive and vote placement.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:

Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:53 pm lol.

Kylemii: Quin cares too much about addressing his case!
Dunya: MP doesn't address his case!

These are both stupid lines of reasoning. I'm moving to wilgy.

Dunya
Dunya didn't use the word "vot" with any of her votes. i think i remember her putting in at least one other vote but i can't find it

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:07 pm Sorry MP I really panicked and felt like you were taking me on a ride. I wish I had 3 hours with you to assess everything new you said.

Quin

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:52 pm And I don't know what any of you are talking about, because no lynch is objectively a good strategy.

linki: yeah dogs are gross

(no lynch, i think?)

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:47 pm May as well through our self-pres votes on, MP. I'm willing to go elsewhere with it if we can swing it though.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:54 pmnvm i voted wilgy

MP

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:19 pm Putting a pressure vote on LC because I need him to elaborate ASAP.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:48 pm I’m moving my vote to Wilgy. Please explain your thoughts/conclusions.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:18 am Okay, well unfortunately I am out for the night, and tomorrow I’ll be pretty busy with work, a concert, and prepping for company. I’ll see what I can do though.

I don’t know what Wilgy is doing but I presume he’s trying to use emoticons to communicate solely for whatever crazy reason he does these things, and I’m honestly miffed that he hasn’t elaborated further but I hesitate to say it’s nefarious. I think he’s throwing out reads so it’s something. It’d be nice if he could say more but I find difficulty seeing his current behavior as scummy, just vague and mildly infuriating. I also know he tends to gut read me as scum when’s he’s town nearly every damn game (like sig and Dom), so his vote on me actually makes me think he’s ok GTH.

My town reads are Kyle, Wilgy, and sig. I am tentatively leaning town on dunya and speedchuck but can’t sort either of them yet. Everyone else is a ?.

I guess I’ll move my vote to Daisy now. I need to hear what she’s thinking.

Good night folks. Generate that awesome content, keep it up.

Linki with sig, thanks for responding. Care to elaborate why you are against fake claims?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:50 pm MOving my vote to Kyle

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:15 pm Oh there’s no unvote... huh.

Alright throwing a vote on NT

Ugh it’s raining again my phoneeee

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:53 pm moving my vote to NO LYNCH as I do some investigation, I guess a lurker lynch is preferable to my own, but I want to make it clear that I don't advocate it at this time. I wouldn't have kept my vote there, but my time has been limited and I honestly had no idea what to do with it, then my phone stopped working last night.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:56 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:35 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:22 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:21 pm discussion of no lynching is a great way to bring early content into the thread though.

also puts LC in a good light for me.

+1

This is Quin's first post regarding anything alignment-related. It's not ideal because it's just echoing someone else's sentiment without explaining why he feels that way.

I feel comfortable enough moving my vote to Quin for now, partially out of self-preservation but because I've already seen enough in his ISO that leaves some to be desired. I'll keep digging a bit though.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:15 pm Quin, why are you town? Help. I came into the thread into a similar situation. If we're both town, I need you to work with me here.

I'm moving to DDL while I await your further response.

(this vote was late and didn't count but i think it is important to include anyways)

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:01 pm Fuck, I'm tied.Moving to Wilgy for self-pres I guess.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:05 pm I remember a long post with a vote history thingamajig. Who posted that?

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:42 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:37 pm Still happy with a DDL lynch - he's someone I highly suspected yesterday, and his role in Wilgy's lynch doesn't alleviate that any.

I can see Quin's point on dunya, that does look a little sparse on dunya's part. dunya hasn't responded to your questions, Quin?

No. And with Kyle's vote recount in the thread now it's kind of a moot purpose.

I'm looking through dunya's posts now. So far I'm not impressed with my own read of her - she looks clean to me. I'll update these thoughts when I'm finished. Want to have a go?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:19 pm Well, this is bullshit. This day phase is nonsense and laziness.

I don't really care; go ahead and mislynch a townie, and then lynch LC next. I don't have the time or energy for this; I'm not going to spend time that's more importantly spent with company coming. I probably should have backed out of this game due to the awful timing; I spent more time here than I should have as it is.