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I know, I wasn't talking about you.
well, no. If I were a mafia and 2 of my teammates were in the lead over anyone by more than one votes, that would mean one of them were definitely be going down. maf Kyle would want to be a part of it. Maf Kyle would absolutely opportunity to make sure the more powerful role, or the player with the more salvageable reputation survived, giving himself civ credit at the same time.a strawman, but also a real actual argument I saw earlier I guess? wrote:but Kyle! What if both LC and Lorabs are mafia, maybe you voted daisy to save LC too? You fool, you imbecile.
mmmore like aifom (ale inside of me)a different strawman wrote:but isn't that just a lot of wifom?
I had her as a town read cus she seemed like she'd hopped back into the same mindset she's had before she died. She'd be worth looking into again through the "lorab was mafia" lens after the last lynch though
I believe I was the last player to vote, lorab and long con were tied 4-4.FZ. wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:09 pm Does anyone have the order of the votes? When did Wilgy vote for Kyle? When did Kyle vote for Daisy? And when did Daisy vote for Nutella?
@linki: I only read the part about JJJ and I'm sorry, I just don't see him as bad, especially when I consider LC bad.
What did you say about Daisy?
i didn't. I don't tend to vote until the eod when i can be most informed of current events. I'm considering changing this though.
I mean it's basically all there. I agreed with LC's analysis that speed seemed like he was nudging the Kylewagon forward without really hitching his horse to it.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:39 pmKyle, you addressed your suspicion of speedchuck in a little bit of detail here, but there's not a lot of meat. Could you elaborate on what your thought process RE: speedchuck was at this point?Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:59 pmI liked LC's case on Speedchuck and Epi's case on FZ, respectively. I think both showed behavior that might be displayed by mafia ready to take advantage of Jay's thing and, later your thing, to push a mislynch while staying out of the splash zone themselves.
wait nevermind I get it. You mean that lorab had the same reason for suspecting Speedchuck as I did.
Who was on the poll at that time? was lorab one of the vote-havers?Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:36 pmLoRab was holding off on voting for a very long time yesterday despite proclaiming Epi has her top suspect every time she posted. I believe the theory behind Epi's post is that she didn't want to commit a vote to a player if it wasn't likely to help save her teammate.
It seems like a culture thing though?? Am I misunderstanding what you're talking about? someone mentioned the idea that your vote might have been forced I assumed that was the topic of your admonishment
I think he's talking about role related stuff, like guessing about people's curses or whatever. I think it's a culture thing. Where I come from speculation is always free game and it's on the cursed to be less obvious about it.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:19 amIf I understand you correctly, you're saying we should stop ppaying mafia?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:44 am Let me iriterate from last Day phase: If you have suspicions about a players action that goes beyond their alignment, do not talk about it in thread. Figure out their alignment, probe and get your ideas clear, but do not engage in open guesswork. In fact, let's stop with that altogether right now.
Ok?
This concert has chairs and no dance floor, so I can be shitty concert pattron on my phone and get away with it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:11 amNo yeah, forgot about the concert. That makes sense.
What are you doing in the mafia game Kyle? You're at a concert.
(Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with drunk posting or drinking. I have never drunk. All I knew is that this is the first time I've seen Kyle doing it, and we were at a critical juncture)
maybe so
i didn't schedule the concert sirspeedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:06 amI agree, and it feels out of character for Kyle to get drunk in the middle of a crucial lynch.
I may not know anything, and I don't like bringing RL stuff into games, but come on man save the drunk posting for the night phases.
Kyle doesn't have culpability for tonight.Or maybe he just wanted to drink. I don't know what that's like.
Tell me about lorabSloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:55 amI recommend looking at LoRab quickly if you have time.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:53 am I moved to nutella for the moment, I'm not 100% certain I want to stay there but my gut just got thrown for a loop and her moving to Jay is concerning to me.
I believe that was post-apology/clarification, I don't remember what specifically tipped him over to good.Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:04 amTalk about your read of him at the point of this GTH list:Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:02 amI initially viewed his cropping of my post as being opportunistic and sneaky, I felt better when he apologized later I felt better about him, it seemed like a realistic mistake. Coming into day 2 I decided to press a tiny reset button in my brain. Many of my day 1 reads were poisoned by emotions and stress. LC's case he made coming into today gave me an impression of good. I've seen LC in many games and been disappointed by his lack of involvement. (not in a shame on you way but like in a, I wish LC would play more way] so seeing a case from him at all was a sign of proactiveness, indicative ofpositive vibesSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:29 pmI did a brief search. They seemed to have a small flare up early in the game around the Day 0 Kyle nonsense, but after that they both seemed to quietly settled on town reads of each other with little visible movement in the thread. That's something I wouldn't mind talking about.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:11 pm Fam if you wouldn't mind I had a Kyle and long con team as a good possibility. Would you mind looking at their interactions and sharing with me your thoughts when you have a moment?
@Kylemii @Long Con, mind elaborating on how your early reads of one another developed?The town read you're describing right now speaks to his Day 2 involvement, but you had him down as good prior to today as well.Spoiler: show
I initially viewed his cropping of my post as being opportunistic and sneaky, I felt better when he apologized later I felt better about him, it seemed like a realistic mistake. Coming into day 2 I decided to press a tiny reset button in my brain. Many of my day 1 reads were poisoned by emotions and stress. LC's case he made coming into today gave me an impression of good. I've seen LC in many games and been disappointed by his lack of involvement. (not in a shame on you way but like in a, I wish LC would play more way] so seeing a case from him at all was a sign of proactiveness, indicative ofpositive vibesSloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:29 pmI did a brief search. They seemed to have a small flare up early in the game around the Day 0 Kyle nonsense, but after that they both seemed to quietly settled on town reads of each other with little visible movement in the thread. That's something I wouldn't mind talking about.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:11 pm Fam if you wouldn't mind I had a Kyle and long con team as a good possibility. Would you mind looking at their interactions and sharing with me your thoughts when you have a moment?
@Kylemii @Long Con, mind elaborating on how your early reads of one another developed?
I liked LC's case on Speedchuck and Epi's case on FZ, respectively. I think both showed behavior that might be displayed by mafia ready to take advantage of Jay's thing and, later your thing, to push a mislynch while staying out of the splash zone themselves.
I looked it over earlier and didn't see anything worth bringing up. We've got a role blocker, a doctor, a bullet-proof-vest-boy-that-i-forgot-the-classical-name-for,Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:02 pm We had no nightkill last night, but nobody is talking about things that might have caused that. I have trouble identifying a clear-cut consensus town read, so a doctor save on Night 1 would be incredible but not impossible. What other roles are there that could have stopped a kill from going through?
I went back to review FZ's posts because I remembered thinking that she seemed like she was jumping on the Kyle bandwagon with maybe a slightly contrived reason that was just different enough to be a unique take. This post seems a little ironic in retrospect...FZ. wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:21 pmIt doesn't really feel bad to me. I rely more on tone, and her tone feels genuine.
Let me ask you or anyone familiar with baddie Nutella, is she the kind to follow others and bandwagon?
I for one really like, especially in the early stages, to bring my own suspects forward when I'm bad so people don't start accusing me of bandwagoning. I feel like when a person has no problem just stating they agree with someone, that it can easily be what they really think.
oh you mean the game in which BR broke the sacred bonds masonic trust by getting recruited to the reavers and winning with them? I remember it only vaguely, and have certainly gotten over her heartbreaking betrayal by now. I'm not still bitter about it at all.
no kill is good news and space daisy replacing back in is also good news.I seem to. I had a 2 page long debate about some philosophical semantic garbage in mountain mafia with epignosis, and later with Jack in the same game. I'm pretty sure it's happened other times too. Neither of those circumstances resulted in either person almost dying but like.... I'm still pretty sure this is something I should work on lol.
I mean that's understandable but it leaves out the possibility that Sloonei and I are both civilians and also loud stubborn idiots.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:04 pm @Kylemii And @Sloonei, I'm not to sure that's an easy thing to explain. Kinda because it's a combination of things. Your not on the same team, your vote wagons show the thoughts of two different agendas, the general discussion between Sloonbread or Kyle is so pivotal and black and white, I don't see a situation where it's possible that your on the same team.
And it's not like it's something I can directly quote either as it involves all the other players and their opinions too. Its like Moses split the water and Kyle and Sloonei were on each side of the ravine.
