The Syndicate

alright so assuming gwilikers and kites are telling the truth about their targets and weren't misdirected, only a horseperson could have killed sprityo last night right? and if kenway is telling the truth about reversing cbob (and also wasn't misdirected) then that leaves kenway and rdw as potential killers, correct? are there any other horses?

you could ask, it would definitely squish away that last little bit of doubt, but it seems plausible enough.

there's already evidence of the mafia tampering with yours and dunya's targets it doesn't seem too crazy that Jack would make a mistake like that especially with how many misdirects there are in this game

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:56 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:44 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 amI wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.

News to me.

For Kylemii
N1 - DDL
N3 - Marmot
N5 - lapluie
N7 - didn't work

I got Good guy on all checks
if you knew DDL was civ then what was the motivation behind stealing his vote on night 2?
Like I said earlier, I didn't know that. I had to go back and ask for Dunya's results. Which I did around the time I copped Marmot. Otherwise I would have mentioned DDL's towncred earlier.

hm... so is the theory that Dunya was misdirected from Tony and got a different result because of misdirection and then later on the host went back to answer your question and mistakenly gave you the final misdirected results including the misdirection target instead of dunya's actual target?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:24 amI wasn't there and ended up asking what my results were. It might be a host clarification mistake with the misdirection and my asking days later. I had no idea any misdirections happened, and I'm not privy to Dunya's PMs.

News to me.

For Kylemii
N1 - DDL
N3 - Marmot
N5 - lapluie
N7 - didn't work

I got Good guy on all checks

if you knew DDL was civ then what was the motivation behind stealing his vote on night 2?

ddl was speedchuck's first target on night 2, but it was for a vote steal, not an allegience check.

it's impossible for speedchuck to have ever targeted ddl for an allegience check and for all the other things he's said to have been also true... isn't it? [mention]speedchuck[/mention] plz clarify what nights you targeted which players along with what region they came from? thank you.

Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:28 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:46 am
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am **** ****** ******* Ring

This was TonyStark’s PM last night. Which lines up perfectly with what happened. If he was scum he probably would have had some other power, but then again it may be a passive one.
Lol. I targeted Tony too. He IDs from Goodguyia.

TonyStarkPrime, please explain why you claimed to be from Badguyia.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.
Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:49 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:36 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:08 pm I suspect DDL and to a greater degree Marmot, so I'd say no.
Neither of these players are scum, barring misdirections.
We are beyond being coy, and the rules permit dumps. Dump.
....what more does he have to say? he has a cop role and he's already cleared Marmot before, idr about DDL, but like.... I think this is self-explanatory
Yeah, I dumped Marmot on D4. DDL was my first check, back on N1
THIS DOESN’T ADD UP

dunya targeted Tony nd was misdirected on n1 and speedchuck says he got a result on DDL n1

[VOTE: SPEEDCHUCK] aubergine

there’s no reason for him to be alive as he will become a bigger threat to mafia everytime the number of players goes down

but why would speedchuck lie about a target he had on a night he wasn't even playing during? what's the actual benefit? isn't it more likely it was just a mistake

there are only two mafia left and only so many players who could even possibly be mafia based on mechanics and shit

this game is absolutely solvable by process of elimination at this point, i think

unless my math is wrong, we have 3 chances to get our next mafia lynch (unless speedchuck is mafia in which case we only have 2 chances)

if we can narrow down our communal suspect list to 3 most likely scum players then that would go a huge distance towards a victory

Kites wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:23 am @Kylemii yes I did target gwil

niiiiiice

cool cool good

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:16 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:06 pm @nutella file this one under "Kyle doesn't pay attention and doesn't often dig through archives" could you remind me who the players were that you followed before night 6, and also who did they target?
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 43#p420743

[mention]kites[/mention] and this is true? you targeted gwil on night 4?

also, oh my god, the person who already asked you this exact question before was me. what the fuck is wrong with me. maybe I should take notes or s/t

[mention]nutella[/mention] file this one under "Kyle doesn't pay attention and doesn't often dig through archives" could you remind me who the players were that you followed before night 6, and also who did they target?

kenway has often been an enigma to me in this game, i don't understand much of his methods but I don't believe he's mafia

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:59 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:56 pm
Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:03 pm What if sprityo protected himself and Kylemii targeted him with a reverse? Would that result in a kill? Elfire states it would only work if a Mafia is targeted though. Sprityo is town.
I didn't target anyone last night. there wasn't an obvious target anymore so I put it off and then ultimately just forgot to even do it at all.

but also... i wouldn't be able to target sprityo cus he's on a horse, also i don't think self-targeting is even allowed in the first place?
In Fire Emblem, the healer can't heal themselves with their healing magic

"Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player."

Kenway wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:03 pm What if sprityo protected himself and Kylemii targeted him with a reverse? Would that result in a kill? Elfire states it would only work if a Mafia is targeted though. Sprityo is town.

I didn't target anyone last night. there wasn't an obvious target anymore so I put it off and then ultimately just forgot to even do it at all.

but also... i wouldn't be able to target sprityo cus he's on a horse, also i don't think self-targeting is even allowed in the first place?

rip sprityo

[mention]Kenway[/mention] important follow up question in the classroom

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:53 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:54 pm [VOTE: Iron Dwarf] aubergine before deadline

here goes nothing i suppose
This looks so scummy lol

what do you think of the two other votes that happened at the same time, literally 1 minute before deadline

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:14 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:53 pm @sprityo are you on a horse

feel free to not answer if this question is too personal
i already said im promoted to valkyrie knight

i think it's already been well established that i don't listen when people tell me things

[mention]sprityo[/mention] are you on a horse

feel free to not answer if this question is too personal

if i reveal the secrets of my arcane humor to the public then kenway will have less incentive to come hang out with me in our secret mage tree house

i can't do that

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:47 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:18 pm also i made a really funny joke in btsc 2 days ago and you haven't laughed at it or even looked at it so and honestly i'm just feeling so attacked right now :^/
This is why we should lynch Kenway no reason for a civ not to make use of BTSC.

you're missing the point, sig, who cares about that?

he didn't laugh at my mage joke. that's the real crime here.

also i made a really funny joke in btsc 2 days ago and you haven't laughed at it or even looked at it so and honestly i'm just feeling so attacked right now :^/

[mention]Kenway[/mention] plz meet me after hours in the classroom, there's something we must do

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] have you been misdirected on any of the nights that gwil was misdirected

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:20 pm
Kites wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:58 pm everyone listed here is civ imo and wouldn’t lynch

rdw: his typical behavior p much. his vote/action points to promotion check out. if he is scum and received double life in the beginning i think he’d have tried harder to not become lynched since it would be a waste. also I dont think he wouldn’t have waited until night 7 to fakeclaim it

speedchuck: civ behavior really, can’t find anything rly bad despite trying hard

kenway: not that it would assure any of you, also i dont give a shit if you dont, but i simply think his posts are genuine. guys a civ who couldn’t keep up with the thread and post useful shit cos real life stuff. i might be wrong but I’d feel bad for voting him cos I don’t think he is scum and i hve played against scum kenway before. his vote/action points to promotion check out

kylemii: the problem is that his role doesn’t promote so he doesn’t have to lie about night actions if he’s scum. i liked his background search on my lost brother thingy. i have no reason to believe he is scum. also the ttownfirming epi thing, esp when he was suspected by many

gwilikers: it’s been proven he used his monk power = he didn’t promote in the beginning. next.

sprityo:
Spoiler: show

Kites wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:38 pm
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:55 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:35 pm I really need you guys to focus in here cause we’ve lose basically any player willing enough to be active

Mafia are obviously scared and we are on their tail

Iron Dwarf, I don’t care if you want RDW Lynched now, the fact stands mafia killed Epi through my protect so one of the people with misdirects is at fault here

So the question begs is it Cbob or Nutella?

@colonialbob who was your target
@nutella who was your target?
You know, I kinda think you're scum. You claim to have targeted Epi every night, even though there have been much more attractive scum kill targets every night except for last night. Seems like an easy way to generate fake night action claims to me. And now with this post it looks like you're trying to set up our next two lynches. Plus, let's not forget that scum have already had a misdirector in Quin. And the first two lines of this post just seem very fake to me.
i think the doctor loop was clever but of course there must be a way to break it somehow. i’d say sprityo is civ based mostly on gaining epi’s trust in their btsc, it would be very difficult to lie convincingly to him in a private chat
Kites:
Spoiler: show
I’m confirmed civ deal with it
Kites wrote: ↑Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:48 am sprityo and anyone suspecting me

gwilly cleared me on night 3
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:55 am
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:50 am This was my exact result btw: “**f*** *m ** - s*g”

I was drunk last night and working now so I haven’t put the slightest effort into decoding it. Have at it.
Soften 'em up. It corroborates I think Kites (?) who said they boosted sig's kill chance. I obviously didn't do that, so you were misdirected or something.
soften em up is an archer power so I hadn’t been promoted yet

a) promoted monk could def still have the PM power
b) the fact you think that PM result townclears you is laughable.

@gwilikers6 what have you been up to since you got Kites' PM?

this is actually a valid point? though no one can confirm that promoted monk doesn't still have monk powers he did apparently snag Sig's pm. the only way he could ever fake that is if they were both mafia.

does this forum have automatic dst detection

[VOTE: irondwarf] aubergine aubergine

daylight savings time fuck

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:39 pmFor who?

I'm at brunch so it's slow going but I'm reviewing rdw and id rn

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:36 pm Yo who’s on? I don’t want to lynch rundontwalk. I’m open to changing from Iron Dwarf.

could you plz explain your stance on rdw

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:34 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:29 pm there's an hour left til eod
Are you going to actually, like, vote?

yeah

there's an hour left til eod

remember that excercise i suggested everyone do? plz pretend as if I am jay or epi type character who has ideas that people listen to and participate in it, I think it will help clarify things

[mention]nutella[/mention] sorry if you've already revealed this but which players did you follow? back when you could do it

I would like everyone to go through and list every living player and say why they think that player could be town. plz make note afterwards of which players are the hardest to answer the question for.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:27 pm What was the logic behind a flier being able to surpass my protect?

players cannot effect actions of players that have already acted, based on the movement speed thing, that's why I never bothered to target Epignosis.

so if, for example, Nutella, sig, rundontwalk or whatever other horse boys are alive were the player in charge of sending in the kill for the mafia then your protection wouldn't make a difference to them because as an on foot cleric, your protect would take place after their kill had already been resolved.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:31 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:21 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:08 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:06 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:12 pm Im thinking too much about the night roles. Epi warned me about this. theres too much going on behind the scenes to accurately determine who did what during the night

Henceforth still i want everyone to look at nutella and say when the last thing she contributed was posted.
Her M.O. is mainly waiting for whatever gets traction and then jumping on one of those wagons.
Go read DDL's posts I quoted upthread and look at a) her voting record and b) quin/lapluie voting against her
quin and lapluie voted for each other with the exact same fervor that they went after nutella though.
Just ISO'd Quin and I'm pretty confident. He consistently pushed lap/nutella as scumreads but kept ending up on nutella over lap.

was nutella ever at risk of lynching

I remember someone saying/theorizing that the mafia wouldn't be able to use their secret mafia background powers and also their regular powers at the same time, do you remember who that was

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:08 am
Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:06 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:12 pm Im thinking too much about the night roles. Epi warned me about this. theres too much going on behind the scenes to accurately determine who did what during the night

Henceforth still i want everyone to look at nutella and say when the last thing she contributed was posted.
Her M.O. is mainly waiting for whatever gets traction and then jumping on one of those wagons.
Go read DDL's posts I quoted upthread and look at a) her voting record and b) quin/lapluie voting against her

quin and lapluie voted for each other with the exact same fervor that they went after nutella though.

[mention]sprityo[/mention] I'm sure you've already thought of this but another way your protect on epi might not have worked is if the killer was on a horse or a bird-horse/lizard-horse. though if you promoted to valkyrie then only bird or lizard style horses could naturally outspeed you

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:56 pm @Kenway what were you up to last night?

@Kylemii who did you settle on?

I didn't use my power last night at all. I couldn't think of anyone who could be productively targeted, since jailholds don't count as protections

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:13 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:45 pm When does day start again?
In an hour or so.

oh whoops

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:41 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:42 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:56 pm @Kylemii confirmed my jailkeep does not doctor. So if you flipped that power it would be a... guide plus guide nexus I guess?
what is a guide nexus?
Everybody targeting my target is guided. Because my jailkeep is block + block nexus (block everybody who blocks my target) and guide seems like the opposite of block so.

oh :0

yeah so the opposite of that sounds pretty much not useful at all then

manmager

[mention]Kenway[/mention] plz talk to jack and see if you're eligible for promotion yet, I could use an assistant mage manager

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:18 pm Soooo would 2 townies have 4 lives between them?

we already knew iron dwarf had 2 lives, that's one of his features as a knight and has nothing to do with his alignment since only background powers are unique to alignments

great knight is a possible promotion for the knight too. it makes sense that both roles would have 2 lives.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:56 pm @Kylemii confirmed my jailkeep does not doctor. So if you flipped that power it would be a... guide plus guide nexus I guess?

what is a guide nexus?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:32 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:30 pm anyone capable and willing to protect iron dwarf tonight? hmu
Why?

i am a sage

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