The Syndicate

I toooooold you ties can be informational

I guess that's a valid point. all time frames provide context

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:32 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:29 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:12 pm do we have enough people around right now for a tie to be informative?
Can you explain how it could be informative?
The regular ways?
Honestly ties are much less informative than other lynches IMO. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Who would you want to tie, though?

How do you figure that?

And it's already in a tie including 2 people I suspect so I'm contented already.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:29 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:12 pm do we have enough people around right now for a tie to be informative?
Can you explain how it could be informative?
The regular ways?

A day 1 washout gives us nothing as far as vote analysis goes regardless of whether the lynch goes to a good or bad. Ties or near ties gives us something to work with.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:12 pm do we have enough people around right now for a tie to be informative?
Can you explain how it could be informative?

The regular ways?

do we have enough people around right now for a tie to be informative?

my wifi is acting wonky rn so i'm putting my vote on MP for now. i won't necessarily keep it there, i just don't want to miss the vote

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:11 pmKyle - I appreciate the excuse of being rusty (me too dude, apart from Seinfeld I played here, and the few days I was alive in Street Fighter mafia, I haven't played in aaaages). Still, something strikes me as insincere. Something strikes me as being mafia and trying to hard to be townie. Something strikes me as playing it too safe and trying to appear purposely unknowledgeable. I stand by it. Even yesterdays "rainbow list and reads" were like a mafia coverup trying to keep everyone somewhat happy because you're taking initiative and making an effort so to keep them at bay. Didn't like it.

I accept your suspicion. ii don't enjoy that i'm at the top of your lynch today list but i understand where you're coming from and i hope i can change your mind in the coming days. I started this game with the mindset of "alright let's be Nancy Drew with abstract questions and try to sleuth out some shit using psychology or whatever" but when speedchuck called me out (i stand by the fact that 83% was hyperbole) i realized that i was actually not really accomplishing much of anything without communal thought. i understand how that can seem insincere from an outside perspective.

i promise i am just doing my best.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:53 pm This isn't a rainbow. Needs more green and purple.

PEople Who Are bEing real Jerks about Color THeory:
-Dragon D. Luffy
People Who Are Crying rigght Now, THAnks To YOu:
)-Kylemii

Dragon D. Luffy - I've actually come around on him, i read through his day 1 behavior in pokemon and princesses and this seems closer to pokemon than princesses. it's not 1:1 but i can see how this is just like... who he is
DrWilgy - your way of posting is frustrating but now that i've gotten used to it i.... i kind of get it? i was seeing it as a way to avoid responsibility, but you're still changing opinions and prodding at stuff.
dunya - generally still just good vibes. nothing substantial has changed with regards to her.
Kylemii - that's me.
Long Con - i think i said positive before but i'm feeling slightly more sketchy on him than before
MovingPictures07 - his "oh i see i'm joining a wagon but i guess i'll stay there" seems just like.... i don't know how to word it. overly concerned with appearances i guess. it irked me.
NewTraditionalist - get in here friend, come play with us.
Quin - Something bothers me about how they seem very concerned with what people think about their gameplay, i haven't really changed my opinion on them... the "vote low poster" thing also doesn't reflect super well.
sig - no change from before
Spacedaisy - her interractions with MP have put her on a watch list for me, something's fishy.
SpankGangsta - come play with usssssssssssssssss
speedchuck - no change here either.

So....

Frankensteins:
-Kylemii
Ghosts:
-DDL
-dunya
-speedchuck
Zombies:
-Long Con
-Dr. Wilgy
-sig
Werewolves:
- Spacedaisy
Vampires:
- MovingPictures07
- Quin
Ghosts But They're Not Real Ghosts, They're Just Regular Kids Wearing Sheets That Aren't Talking To Anyone And It's Super Weird:
-NewTraditionalist
-SpankGangsta

What's up you punks'?

get ready for a spooooky Halloween themed rainbow list

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:07 pm ~24 hours to go.

I'm posting this to remind myself that the day ends around 3pm tomorrow PST.

I intend to update my list tomorrow and do what I think a rainbow list is.

oh no what did I do

[quote=Quin post_id=378697 time=1509506021 user_id=474]
[quote=sig post_id=378693 time=1509502994 user_id=411]
Switched to NewTraditionalist until they post.

I didn't read Kyle's post as that odd or pingy.

I figured MP was messing/flirting with you over that vote Daisy, I'm surprised you're taking it that way.

I've got nothing else to add besides the fact that I think either DDL or LC is bad, but not both. [u]The other baddies are either semi active or inactive I believe[/u]. I must be off for the time, but I'll be back tomorrow.
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I don't understand how you can form an assumption like this on Day 1. Does this mean you're currently town-reading all the other active players?
[/quote]

I am also curious about that.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:23 pmI figured MP was messing/flirting with you over that vote Daisy, I'm surprised you're taking it that way.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:18 am I guess I’ll move my vote to Daisy now. I need to hear what she’s thinking.

Guys please keep it PG this is a FAMILY website. Think of the CHILDREN :/

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:54 pm Oh I see I’m joining a wagon

Still going ti keep my vote there but I don’t think we should let anyone become a consensus or avoid putting pressure on as many people as possible. Spread the love around. Lol

Hey, buddy pal friend, not super terribly fond of this here move.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:50 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:59 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 amIs Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.
Just because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.

Now I'm working on something else

What specifically do you want out of me?
Yikes.

This is not indicative of a townie mindset.

Thought you have looked good so far, but Iwould like your one elaborate on what compelledyou to say this @

I was honestly just a little annoyed that I was being talked down to.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:23 pm http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... =28&t=1358

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... f=28&t=799

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... =27&t=1134

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... =27&t=1217

Thank you, sorry for the run-around but this has helped a lot.

Or anyone for that matter

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] I'm sorry I keep asking for things, would you mind leading me towards an example of civvie DDL?

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] heeeeey what's ur history, may i please have a brief timeline?

DDL, what is your mafia history? How long have you played on each site?

does that link i posted actually go to anything?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:46 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:46 pmDragon

https://www.narutoforums.org/search/8347121/?page=7

How do I make a link

Re: Pirate Mafia [DAY 1] Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:46 pmDragon

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:46 pmDragon

Dragon

i'm not all that sold on some of those reads anymore

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:12 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:57 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:59 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:47 pmAre you suuuuuuure that scale isn't 2-4? Because these reads look very soft.
It's day one, friendo. Anyone who says they feel confident about anything is lying.
The question was about whether you should be reading those people as more baddies than just 2-4, not about confidence. Right now it seems you are reading all of them as civs.
why does it seem like that to you?
If in a scale of civ-bad that goes from 0 to 10 everyone is 2-4, doesn't it mean they are all civs?

the scale goes from 1-5 and the higher numbers were more civ, you had it backwards and squished.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:59 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:47 pmAre you suuuuuuure that scale isn't 2-4? Because these reads look very soft.
It's day one, friendo. Anyone who says they feel confident about anything is lying.
The question was about whether you should be reading those people as more baddies than just 2-4, not about confidence. Right now it seems you are reading all of them as civs.

The people i read as goodish to varying degrees were Dunya, LC, sig, and speedchuck.

The people i read as leaning bad were DDL, Quin, and SD (as a wakeup call)

MP was average and Dr. Wilgy is probably also average at least until votes happen.

Everyone else only has 1 post so they're useless to judge yet.

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] is the issue with the scale, or the people on the scale?

i'm not sure i understand what you're getting at

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:54 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:59 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:47 pmAre you suuuuuuure that scale isn't 2-4? Because these reads look very soft.
It's day one, friendo. Anyone who says they feel confident about anything is lying.
The question was about whether you should be reading those people as more baddies than just 2-4, not about confidence. Right now it seems you are reading all of them as civs.

why does it seem like that to you?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:47 pm @Dragon D. Luffy

please help me stalk you on naruto

please
Elaborate? What do you need?

I was hoping there was a way to isolate only your posts on the naruto forum, is there?

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]

please help me stalk you on naruto

please

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:38 pm (it has 2500 posts. Enjoy)

is there an isolate posts function in narto forum?

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:30 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:23 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:57 pmWhat do you think of my actual content?
i just don't think there was that much of it...

you "called sig out" on his "watchout roleplay" post then mentioned that you have a habit of tunneling sig, even though that didn't really happen, you mostly just said "hey your strategy has a flaw" and then left it alone

you said that dogs are grosss which is categorically false and also unforgivable.

you claimed that no lynch is a good strategy and gave townie points to speedchuck for agreeing with you with a lot of words, gave more thoughts on that topic

you respond to sig's post about LC

otherwise there's mostly jokes

you've had more content since then but even so i can't pick out any suspicions you've pointed out or agreed with.

overall, you've said a lot, but you haven't "said" much, ya dig? that's where my issue comes in.
I gave speedchuck townie points for the effort he went through in his evaluation. I don't think he landed on thinking it was a good idea in this game.

You are correct that I haven't given a lot of reads. Aside from some good feelings you can infer from my posts, I haven't got that many, none of which are scum reads. I just disagree that to say something it has to be tied to a read.

Also, can you answer my question about your mafia history? It's actually kind of an important question.

linki: i see you did. I town read you, Kyle. I often see new (or extended leavers) come in and use that position as a crutch to survive in the game. You have done no such thing. For now, that's good enough for me.

linki2: have you met ricochet?

ricochet uses kind of a similar mascot tactic right? but i've seen him use words to explain his points

i guess it's kind of irrelevant but i don't really like it because it trades good communication for becoming wallpaper.

maybe i'm just a little jealous that i didn't think of it first.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:12 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pm
sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:05 pmKyle's post seems to be very careful, but there's also a fair amount of content and it's still early in the game to have concrete reads so I like that
i also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage

Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.
so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?
No. Sometimes he uses numbers.

that sounds awful and frustrating to be honest, but at least, he's posting i guess????

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:14 pm Being your first game in so long, I'm pretty happy with what you've put out, Kyle. When you say 'first real mafia game' do you mean you've played other stuff since?

i played "mafia" in my improv group but it wasn't really the same because there was no discussion or strategy, just people sitting in a circle pointing at each other.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:57 pmWhat do you think of my actual content?

i just don't think there was that much of it...

you "called sig out" on his "watchout roleplay" post then mentioned that you have a habit of tunneling sig, even though that didn't really happen, you mostly just said "hey your strategy has a flaw" and then left it alone

you said that dogs are grosss which is categorically false and also unforgivable.

you claimed that no lynch is a good strategy and gave townie points to speedchuck for agreeing with you with a lot of words, gave more thoughts on that topic

you respond to sig's post about LC

otherwise there's mostly jokes

you've had more content since then but even so i can't pick out any suspicions you've pointed out or agreed with.

overall, you've said a lot, but you haven't "said" much, ya dig? that's where my issue comes in.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:05 pmKyle's post seems to be very careful, but there's also a fair amount of content and it's still early in the game to have concrete reads so I like that

i also want to point out, this is my first real mafia game in 3-4 years so i am still kind of in the awkwardly climbing back onto the horse stage

Yes to whoever asked this is common of Wilgy regardless of his alignment.

so he just.... does this? the whole game? every game?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:47 pmAre you suuuuuuure that scale isn't 2-4? Because these reads look very soft.

It's day one, friendo. Anyone who says they feel confident about anything is lying.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:43 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:39 pm Quin: 2.75
Uneasy but nothing concrete. they say a lot without saying much. throwing out "townie points" is.... i just don't trust that at all. i don't trust that metric
Did you just reduce my content to a town read I made at the very beginning of Day 1? Does the amount of nothings I've said really outweigh the somethings I've said?

No, I didn't. "Nothing concrete" refers to my gut read on you. Not your actual content. I feel uneasy about you, it's .25 below average. please relax. Just gut.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:59 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 amIs Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.
Just because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.

Now I'm working on something else

What specifically do you want out of me?

please explain your vote?

alright. it's business time. 1 - 5, 5 being definitely good, 1 being definitely bad, and 3 being average.

DDL: 2.5
Most of his posts are about game mechanics, he notes to MP that he was lacking baddie reads even though he'd provided none himself, voted sig for asking the cop to play recklessly proactively... just generally ping-y. Like it's mostly gut feel and maybe it's just how he is regularly but there's a definite general pingy-ness there for me. I had him with a lower score before Speedchuck's point about nosebops, i can see how the same tactic could be used as a townie to stir the pot and open up discussion

Dr. Wilgy: ???
LIterally has only posted emoticons? is this normal for Wilgy?

Dunya: 3.5
My gut feel on her is good. Her posts read authentic to me. It's not much more than gut.

Long Con: 3.25
Very thorough and generally positive influence on the thread. He'd be higher but i believe he's very well capable of smoke-screening as a baddie.

MP: 3
he has a lot of posts because of the 1 quote per post thing he did. he's doing work and making shit happen but there's not enough there to sway me either way on him.

NewTraditionist: Null
Only post is about the day 0 vote. Please speak up.

Quin: 2.75
Uneasy but nothing concrete. they say a lot without saying much. throwing out "townie points" is.... i just don't trust that at all. i don't trust that metric

sig: 3.25
actually reads kind of civ to me??? i get where people are coming from with the copclaim suggestion thing but the thing is, he's right. it's mathematically the best choice in a vacuum. other variables exist as well if the cop can reliably wait a cycle and possibly catch a second badboy then like... that's a different matter.

Spacedaisy: 2.5
She's one of the 4 players with only 1 post but she's different in that i usually expect her to be more active than this. she's been around and posting in other places here. I wouldn't vote her over it because i don't think she'd use inactivity as a baddiestrat, but i guess what i'm saying is, hey spacedaisy, come plaaaaay with us. in this space we've made.

Spankgangsta: Null
he's newer, right? come plaaaaaayyyyyyyyy. with us. come out and plaaaaaaaaay

Speedchuck: 3.5
very blunt. I think good? i disagree with some/most of the stuff he says but his posts read as a townie who is trying hard

I see that my reads on Sig and DDL aren't concurrent with the rest of the thread so i'm going to review those two as well as LC

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:00 pmEach directed question pushes people in a specific way that puts pressure on them.

can you give some examples of this happening? I was noticing the exact opposite during my read but maybe you saw something i didnt?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:31 pm Dunya, since you're here, can you tell me your thoughts on DDL?
perhaps I will.

please?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:30 pmFoes
kyle

need more intel

wait, why?

Dunya, since you're here, can you tell me your thoughts on DDL?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:15 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:50 pm Tequila really sucks 4/10 wouldn't recommend.

Second Hey! Lets get this lynch train started.

I think we should eye people who are to heavy on the role play, it could be used to avoid scumhunting/be left alive out of amusement. However, that shouldn't be the only reason to lynch someone.
didnt like this as a first post.

hey everyone let's look at everyone who roleplays
but let's also not

bad first post. leaning scummy for sig.

the fact that sig posts a few posts immediately before and kyle (my other scumspect) calls out 3 other players itt at the time to give their scumspects but ignores sig also doesn't sit as well with me.
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:51 pm Speedchuck, Quin, and MP, I would like to know if you have any early reads in anyone?
but then sig posts this:

sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:10 am Also and I should've brought this up sooner, but If we have a cop and they get a red check I suggest they role claim immediately, with only 3 mafia members sacrificing the cop to get a mafia member is worth it, also other civs should take advantage of role claiming if they have useful information that will catch mafia members, AND I CAN'T STRESS THIS ENOUGH AS A CIV DONT FAKE CLAIM COP!!!!!!!!!!
and now I feel pretty good about sig. A scum wouldn't ask the cop to roleclaim as soon as they have a lead on day 1. A scum wouldn't be telling power roles what to do at all on day 1. His later clarification on why 1 PR civ is equal as 1 scum. I can follow that logic. I dig his reasons. I dig his gall. I dig his persona.

overall leaning town for sig.

i chose those three specific players because they described themselves as people who would have early thoughts and ideas. why would sig be related to that?

I would appreciate time limits on the polls though as well. it makes things easier.

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