The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote:Someone is out to kill me fuck all yall.

I think you're just paranoid......

I mean

I just want to mention, regarding the LC stealth vote, that it's not him voting SVS at the end that stands out to me. It was him or her. Everyone would want to save themselves, good or bad. However, if he really claimed he wouldn't be around and didn't post at all leading up to the ending of the poll when people would have loved to hear from one of the top suspects - the fact that he WAS around during that time is very fishy.

nutella wrote:@ sloonei LC said he wouldn't be around (a factor in my picking Cobalt over him).

This caught my eye. Is this true? Because apparently he was waiting and watching the poll without posting as he swooped in last second to finish off SVS.

Okay, wow, and you guys were concerned about a tie. Eek.

I gotta stick to my strongest feeling here and stay with LC. I would be suspicious of someone changing their vote at the very end.

Time is running out but I've only made it to the end of page 12. I would like to get my vote in on time so it goes to my number one suspect by the end of page 12: Long Con.

I think what I will do now, despite time no longer being a factor, is continue my rapid fire responses to what has happened these last two days and post that first and then later go back and do more digging on what stands out the most to me. It just makes sense to me to continue it this way.

Question: what happens if time runs out and there is a tie?

It seems I'm quite far behind. >_<

I apologize for my lack of activity these previous two days. Yesterday I got overwhelmed with things that needed to get done and today I had IRL stuff that had priority. I have a lot to catch up on. TO PAGE 8!!

For the record, I was multi-tasking while working on a lil something to catch up on what has been said since last night and I lost the page so it's back to square one. It's not some big revelation. Just a bunch of little things. I like to keep up -to-date with things though.

Thank you.

Guys, I might be brainfarting here, is there a quick way to see a list of every post a user has made in this thread that I'm missing? I clicked on the number of replies in the The Current Job #2 section and it showed me how many posts each player made but I couldn't go to a page to see each post.

I'm going to look at the last two pages and see if there's anything I want to comment on. However, I wanted to post about the cryptic pm I received first.

I would like to preface this by saying that I showed Dom word for word what I planned to say about my PM and asked him if that was okay. I would recommend everyone else do the same before sharing information about their PMs out of respect to Dom but I'm not your mother. Also, your room is a pigsty. Clean it up or you're grounded.

My pm mentioned Sondheim, Brown, Schwartz, and Hammerstein together. It also repeated "lyricist" and "3/4" over and over. I think it may be Schwartz's role and I don't think he's a threat to us but I obviously can't be certain.

Cobalt wrote:He didn't so much as defend me as he pointed out that my logic wasn't flawed like MP seemed to be trying to make it appear. I didn't really think much of it but I appreciated the validation.

Anyone wanna pick my brain while I'm around for a few hours?

Oh man, don't defend me defending you. You're going to get us both lynched.

Now if y'all will excuse me, I have irl interactions to have. I might be back in a few hours. I might not be back until tomorrow.

Sloonei wrote: Gumshoe's follow-up to that post is also a bit shady, in line with the other one. Backtracks on any possible stance, juet trying to figure things out.
I have an early suspect.

I fail to see what's suspicious about this conversation. MP asked if it's reasonable for Cobalt to suspect Devin under the conditions that Devin reminds Cobalt of himself as a baddie. My contribution to that was, yes, I think that is a reasonable reason for Cobalt to feel that way. MP then asked if I also suspect Devin. I did not suspect Devin. I don't know how Devin plays and I don't see anything in how Devin is playing that reminds me of past experiences. If it does for Cobalt, it makes sense that he'd suspect him. It, however, does not for me. I don't see a problem with this viewpoint.

To your reply:

No. I don't know anybody in this game. To my knowledge I've never played with any of them. In a sense, yes, I defended Cobalt's reasoning for suspecting Devin. Not because I agreed with the suspicion and not because I actively wanted to defend Cobalt but because - I'm nosy. :P MP asked a question, I had an opinion on said question, and so I decided to share my opinion. I expect to do this often. It's in my nature.

Okay. Thank you then. Same to you.

Is it bad etiquette to comment on a discussion not involving yourself here? If so, I may be in for a world of hurt trying to keep my head down and eyes forward.

I felt MP proposed a thought-provoking question as to whether or not it makes sense to assume other players could be using similar tactics to those that you use yourself. My stance was that it makes sense to think that way because, odds are, someone is doing something now that someone else has done in the past.

Also, to Golden's contribution, I didn't turn anything around on Cobalt. My first and second line had nothing to do with each other. The quotes read as followed:

Cobalt:
"Devin is suspicious because that's how I play as a baddie"
MP:
"So because you do it, others are also doing it?"
Gumshoe:
"I understand why Cobalt would feel suspicious of it because it's possible that they both have similar strategies as baddies."

And at the same time

Cobalt:
"I was super-civvie last time!"
MP:
"So we shouldn't suspect you because you figured out a lot last time?"
Gumshoe:
"Mafia know more than we do anyway." (this portion of my original post in question was meant as a joke if it wasn't clear)

Also, sorry if you feel like that's the only thing I've contributed to this point. I feel like I've been well balanced between goofing around to keep the game engaging and fun AND being insightful as to the topics of the game. That's a balance I had hoped to continue but maybe it wasn't so balanced to begin with if you feel the way you do.

Dom wrote:??? Sneaks behind DOM, and stabs him in the chest.
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I had a blast.

Nice post, Dom.

Golden wrote:

Neverwhere wrote: I'm pretty sure you have to buy all those programmes. I am too poor for that shit Also technologically inept.

People should never underestimate the technologically inept.

My approach to avatars is ask someone else to do it. I did not make mine.

I indeed will be happy to see the return of the crab (although your current one is pretty funny).

My problem is that I'm a GIF guy. I don't like to stand still and I like that to be represented.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Ok somethings that I find interesting are.
1. S~V~S pulling quotes.
2. Gumshoe saying that S~V~S was buddy up to LC, when the same could be said about him trying to buddy up with Epi.

Sure could. Human beings are hypocrites. I feel ya. Do your thing.

I conformed as Terry Crews. I'm weak.

You're welcome rainbow list users, us no avatar people are the new outcasts!

I WILL NEVER CONFORM!

Neverwhere wrote:There. I have an avatar. Fuck your rules.

Does this make me the last rebel standing? I'd go through the thread to check but you can't find the posts of those jerks with no avatars. They're like ghosts.

Black Rock wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I do find it interesting that MP can so easily put a colour on Epig so early. I don't feel like he is looking more civ or less civ. It's basic Epig and I would rate him as neutral at this point.

I would quote you and SVS since you both said this but SVS had a superlong post and it's right there, people can look up.

I can't understand why the two of you are so anti-lists. Are you claiming you have no suspicions? No gut feelings? That you never have gut feelings Day 0/Day 1? I know, personally, I got gut feelings as soon as I entered the thread. I have gotten gut feelings off of a lot of people so far. It's not evidence (yet) and it's damn sure not proof but they're there.

Again, I feel much more comfortable playing devil's advocate on myself as I truly wish to be fair and talking things out in my own ways helps me understand new viewpoints, I can understand why you may not like the lists being posted publicly as in theory you're putting a hit on "trusted town". I put that in parenthesis because I would be shocked if a majority of us could agree on someone to trust this early on. Later in the game it could potentially be dangerous but this early on I don't think town members would care that much let alone the baddies.

Black Rock points out MP's list and, to me, there's nothing wrong with what he said. He gave two people the slightest town vibe he could. That seems entirely reasonable. Or is it just Epi that you have a problem with? Because I don't know the man but I'd give him the same color MP did if I made a list using MP's colors. Maybe even one shade farther than MP did. Decisions have to made and they will be made before we have proof. So every little read I get on someone helps. Some will be right and some will be wrong but I'm not ashamed of them. I may even put them in rainbow list form to counter the rainbow list hate I'm seeing. I didn't join this game expecting it to be hippies vs the Amish

I am not anti-lists. I just can't see how he can have any read on Epig at this point in the game.

I guess I just don't understand why. Maybe I gotta know Epi to understand.

Black Rock wrote:I do find it interesting that MP can so easily put a colour on Epig so early. I don't feel like he is looking more civ or less civ. It's basic Epig and I would rate him as neutral at this point.

I would quote you and SVS since you both said this but SVS had a superlong post and it's right there, people can look up.

I can't understand why the two of you are so anti-lists. Are you claiming you have no suspicions? No gut feelings? That you never have gut feelings Day 0/Day 1? I know, personally, I got gut feelings as soon as I entered the thread. I have gotten gut feelings off of a lot of people so far. It's not evidence (yet) and it's damn sure not proof but they're there.

Again, I feel much more comfortable playing devil's advocate on myself as I truly wish to be fair and talking things out in my own ways helps me understand new viewpoints, I can understand why you may not like the lists being posted publicly as in theory you're putting a hit on "trusted town". I put that in parenthesis because I would be shocked if a majority of us could agree on someone to trust this early on. Later in the game it could potentially be dangerous but this early on I don't think town members would care that much let alone the baddies.

Black Rock points out MP's list and, to me, there's nothing wrong with what he said. He gave two people the slightest town vibe he could. That seems entirely reasonable. Or is it just Epi that you have a problem with? Because I don't know the man but I'd give him the same color MP did if I made a list using MP's colors. Maybe even one shade farther than MP did. Decisions have to made and they will be made before we have proof. So every little read I get on someone helps. Some will be right and some will be wrong but I'm not ashamed of them. I may even put them in rainbow list form to counter the rainbow list hate I'm seeing. I didn't join this game expecting it to be hippies vs the Amish

Golden wrote:I feel like Luke Skywalker



If anyone here is my father, please just get it over with.

I think I fell into triggering a heated topic

Golden wrote:I believe in the creative commons

Besides, I invented it for you.

I gots me a friend. Making me stuff and all. I'm gonna start blushin'.

@XthAt but.... but pretty colors, right?

Hedgeowl wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:MP's redonkulous rainbow list aside ( )

I feel like I've seen a couple of people making fun of his list and I don't really understand why. Keeping a list rating how suspicious you are of each person in addition to your notes seems like a good idea. Is it just because his is color-coded?

i'll also be using rainbow lists, just so everyone knows. get ready.

Rainbow lists are new to me, but I don't object to them. I did laugh at MPs list this early in the game with only two people listed as "slightly" civvie or baddie leaning. It wasn't a rainbow.

Linki - not 50 shades I hope.

Is 1/14th rainbow not still rainbow? *wink*

51 actually. *double wink*

Golden wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:I'm going to make my list in ever-so-slightly different shades of grey.

Grainbow.

Don't trademark that. It's being stolen now. Thanks.

Sloonei wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:MP's redonkulous rainbow list aside ( )

I feel like I've seen a couple of people making fun of his list and I don't really understand why. Keeping a list rating how suspicious you are of each person in addition to your notes seems like a good idea. Is it just because his is color-coded?

i'll also be using rainbow lists, just so everyone knows. get ready.

I'm going to make my list in ever-so-slightly different shades of grey.

Scotty wrote:Gumshoe, get an avatar buddy. I keep scrolling through thinking your posts are continuations of the person before you.

Also, I like the way you talk, gum. Verbose. Like me. Can't wait to hear your soliloquy in the next scene.

I found the specific one I wanted, plugged it in, and it said "nope, sorry, we hate you and wont let you have the avatar you want because you're not welcome here" ...something along those lines. So I threw in the towel like the bitter little quitter I am. But I suppose I could buckle up and give it one more shot.

Hedgeowl wrote:MP's redonkulous rainbow list aside ( )

I feel like I've seen a couple of people making fun of his list and I don't really understand why. Keeping a list rating how suspicious you are of each person in addition to your notes seems like a good idea. Is it just because his is color-coded?

Epignosis wrote:Some say Epi, some say Epig. Or Rob.

Epi it is. I don't like Rob while playing mafia because it's not in your username. I know if someone else said it I might be awfully confused. Out of mafia, I'll call you whatever you like.

This discussion has changed direction a little bit. Let me make sure I understand what all sides are saying.

Epignosis's POV (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong):
LC posts about other players.
Epignosis says he finds LC's post suspicious.
LC defends what Epignosis pointed out.
LC then says his initial post was under the strategy of posting about people to see how the react to their names coming up in that manner.
Epignosis believes that LC is now making up reasons and that LC didn't have that strategy or he would focus more on what he learned from Epignosis's response rather than spending his time defending what Epignosis pointed out.

LC's POV (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong):
Starts off the same, however, he is saying he did post that to see what people's reactions would be. However, with Epignosis suspecting, of course he would respond to Epignosis interrogating him but that doesn't negate the initial strategy.

About right, boys/girls?

PS. Epignosis, I keep writing your name and it doesn't have a clear short nickname to it. Is there something shorter you go by? I considered Epig but I don't know if I'd like being called Epig.

So the game begins.

I mean, I don't want to just jump on a bandwagon but I've been pinged my what Epignosis has started here. As potentially weak as of a suspicion as it is (which, I mean, it's not even Day 1 so the littlest things really do matter) I can see exactly what Epignosis is saying. Long Con's post reads somewhat like he wants us to think he's contributing without actually contributing. Playing devil's advocate on myself, there is little to nothing to contribute day 0 but it's the feeling that he wants us to think that he contributing that feels fishy. I see why LC saying MP is stirring things up is a good thing and then belittling it as a shoving match is weird. I concur.

That being said, SVS dragged that suspicion a little bit further down the hole and went with LC. 1) The idea of "buddying up" has come up today and SVS came off like LC's knight in shining armor coming to rescue him from Epignosis. 2) Saying that Epignosis is trying to distract us. Distract us from what? Discussing Reading Rainbow? 3) I'm not afraid to be honest of my selfish ways, the main reason this stood out to me is because I saw my name. Dragging themselves and myself into the "interesting" topic comes off very weird to me. I'm battling with my ego as whether I find it weird because subconsciously I just don't like my name coming up or if it truly is weird. I'm leaning toward the latter. I mean, my use of interesting was talking about MP's previous game. Much different than LC's usage of the word. My name being included just seems like a tactic to link up an innocent name to your own. It's like "See, everyone is doing it."

Now, mind you, THE GAME HASN'T EVEN TRULY BEGUN so I'm the tiniest things are just popping off the screen right now and are probably making me paranoid but, hey, it's better to try to figure things out than to sit back and wait. Cuz thar be killahs on teh loose!

TLDR: I'm getting town vibes from Epignosis and baddie vibes from LC & SVS.

PS. The only mafia I have played in years is quick mafia games that last, like, at most 30 minutes. Trying to readjust back into the swing of mafia in this type of forum setting is a little tricky. I'm a ranting, wordy kind of guy to begin with so if you think I need to relax I would appreciate the advice. I feel like I'm trying to compensate because I'm used to not even writing as much as I have in this single post... in an entire game. I still need to find what the correct balance is.

PS. A million of posts have been made since I began this. Ignore any information I did not have prior to 8:48 please.

Epignosis wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Gun to head read

I'm telling you up front I ain't answering any of this GTH bullshit.

And I ain't doing any ISOs.

And I damn sure ain't doing no rainbows reads. I've got Reading Rainbow, and that's enough rainbow reading for me.

Did you see the kickstarter stuff about Reading Rainbow?

I'll have to take your word for it.

I see your interest is totally piqued.

Brainfart confirmed. Ignore all previous interactions.

Hi, nice to meet you for the very first time.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Cobalt wrote:My eye is on Devin almost immediately because of that joking truce thing. Mafia Cobalt tries to jokingly buddy up to people to see if they'd be receptive to it or not.

nutella wrote:

Long Con wrote: Here's the general rule I use with new players. If it comes down to a vote that's based on very little, I'll probably avoid going for them in the spirit of community friendliness. If there's a bigger or more stand-out suspicion on a new player, then I'll probably vote for them despite their newness.

Basically this

I don't give a fuck, y'all can vote for me whenever you want, if you want. Just keep in mind that the most recent mafia game I played my day 3 scum reads list was 5/6 accurate and I got MVP. I don't know you guys as well as that crowd but I do have decent instincts.

So because it is line with your mafia meta to do something, you extrapolate to mean that it is likely within someone else's meta, whom you've never met, as well?

Are you implying that we shouldn't vote for you because you have good instincts? What does that have to do with your alignment?

It's a decent theory. No one is ENTIRELY a unique little snowflake no matter what our mothers tell us. If one person thought of it then it's possible others have as well.

Mafia probably have better "instincts" than the rest of us anyway.

If you think it's a decent theory, then are you also suspecting Devin?

You obviously haven't been listening to Devin and I discussing our BTSC in the previous page. Actual answer, no, I'm still trying to figure people out.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Cobalt wrote:My eye is on Devin almost immediately because of that joking truce thing. Mafia Cobalt tries to jokingly buddy up to people to see if they'd be receptive to it or not.

nutella wrote:

Long Con wrote: Here's the general rule I use with new players. If it comes down to a vote that's based on very little, I'll probably avoid going for them in the spirit of community friendliness. If there's a bigger or more stand-out suspicion on a new player, then I'll probably vote for them despite their newness.

Basically this

I don't give a fuck, y'all can vote for me whenever you want, if you want. Just keep in mind that the most recent mafia game I played my day 3 scum reads list was 5/6 accurate and I got MVP. I don't know you guys as well as that crowd but I do have decent instincts.

So because it is line with your mafia meta to do something, you extrapolate to mean that it is likely within someone else's meta, whom you've never met, as well?

Are you implying that we shouldn't vote for you because you have good instincts? What does that have to do with your alignment?

It's a decent theory. No one is ENTIRELY a unique little snowflake no matter what our mothers tell us. If one person thought of it then it's possible others have as well.

Mafia probably have better "instincts" than the rest of us anyway.

Epignosis wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Gun to head read

I'm telling you up front I ain't answering any of this GTH bullshit.

And I ain't doing any ISOs.

And I damn sure ain't doing no rainbows reads. I've got Reading Rainbow, and that's enough rainbow reading for me.

Did you see the kickstarter stuff about Reading Rainbow?

I'll have to take your word for it.

I see your interest is totally piqued.

Long Con wrote:Linki: I also suspect Gumshoe and Devin of being criminally fraternal in some subtle way.

How does he know? Devin, did YOU tell him!?

nutella wrote:Yeah there are [ ot] tags for the shade of green we use for off topic (also tags for sarcastic orange, dead red, and non player blue)

Okay, thank you. I predict I'll be using some green and orange in my future. Hopefully no red.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Gun to head read

I'm telling you up front I ain't answering any of this GTH bullshit.

And I ain't doing any ISOs.

And I damn sure ain't doing no rainbows reads. I've got Reading Rainbow, and that's enough rainbow reading for me.

Did you see the kickstarter stuff about Reading Rainbow?

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Noob mistake Gumshoe!

Well, jeez, you (my mafia brother) should have told me (your mafia brother) not to do it when I (your mafia brother) told you (my mafia brother) that I (your mafia brother) was going to post that.

Did I mention that we're mafia brothers?

This isn't in green because it's all true

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Gumshoe wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:***I would like to avoid voting a player completely new to The Syndicate on Day 1. I used to very vocally oppose those who took this view, but I have recently come around to this line of thinking. I do think it would suck to come to a new site and get lynched Day 1 your first game, so newbies will get a "free pass" from me, but only from my vote (not any suspicion I have), and if they are my top suspect going into Day 2, I will not hesitate to vote for a newbie.

Perfect! This mafia team of all newbies I am in is going to win this game so easily

By the way, MP, cool Day 0 idea for Death Note. Which option won?

Hey guys, I found a member of the mafia. Ready to have your minds blown? How many letters are in Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber? Arguably about 20 or so. And 20 has a 2 AAAAND a 0. What else has a 2 and a 0? 200. Only 200. Nothing else. How many digits in 200? 3 if you don't go into decimals and stuff. And Andrew Lloyd Webber divorced his first wife, when? Good job, class, '83. So 8. Who was the eighth person to vote? Long Con. What did he vote for? 1. Also, he did it one time. (That's additional evidence) How many digits in 1? 1. 1 as in first? Yes of course. What else would it be? Second? No first. Who was the first person to post? Dom. Dom is mafia.

I don't know how seriously I am going to be able to take Epignosis with that irresistible pout he's got going on in his avatar. Is it hot in here?

What makes you so sure?

Regarding Death Note, it was a tight race for a while there between Normal and L/Light, but Normal won it in the end.

Not sure. Not sure at all, sir. Don't hurt me.

Okay, interesting. I thought it would be cool if something else had won. Maybe another time. By the way, should I also use green when I'm not talking about this game?

MovingPictures07 wrote:***I would like to avoid voting a player completely new to The Syndicate on Day 1. I used to very vocally oppose those who took this view, but I have recently come around to this line of thinking. I do think it would suck to come to a new site and get lynched Day 1 your first game, so newbies will get a "free pass" from me, but only from my vote (not any suspicion I have), and if they are my top suspect going into Day 2, I will not hesitate to vote for a newbie.

Perfect! This mafia team of all newbies I am in is going to win this game so easily

By the way, MP, cool Day 0 idea for Death Note. Which option won?

Hey guys, I found a member of the mafia. Ready to have your minds blown? How many letters are in Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber? Arguably about 20 or so. And 20 has a 2 AAAAND a 0. What else has a 2 and a 0? 200. Only 200. Nothing else. How many digits in 200? 3 if you don't go into decimals and stuff. And Andrew Lloyd Webber divorced his first wife, when? Good job, class, '83. So 8. Who was the eighth person to vote? Long Con. What did he vote for? 1. Also, he did it one time. (That's additional evidence) How many digits in 1? 1. 1 as in first? Yes of course. What else would it be? Second? No first. Who was the first person to post? Dom. Dom is mafia.

I don't know how seriously I am going to be able to take Epignosis with that irresistible pout he's got going on in his avatar. Is it hot in here?

thellama73 wrote:Hello,
I am your Mod on Duty (MoD). I get ever so lonely, so please talk to me about this game. Feel stressed? Angry? Like you want to punch Epignosis in his skeletal face? I don't blame you. Tell me about it. I won't judge. Is MP posting too much? Let me know! Did somebody break a rule? Did the host break his own rule? I am the person to complain to. If you complain in the thread and not to me, you will hurt my feelings. We try to avoid hurt feelings around here. You can even use swear words in your PMs to me. Honestly, I don't mind.

I'll check back in later, but let me know if you guys need anything at all. Have a great game!

I like this guy already. Seems legit. I always trust a person (man or woman) with a mustache and a... is that a fez? I think it's a fez. I like it.

I got 16, ya schmucks! One of the last to pick and I still got the number I wanted. I love you, ya schmucks!