The Syndicate

Roxy wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
Turnip Head wrote: Hey splintsy, Roxy killed me too! I think she was scurred of us
Next time we are baddies together we shall have our revenge

I did not kill Turnips. It was one of the boys' ideas.
I did, however, want to kill splints as she was trying to find my baddie game and since she is the only one who CAN read me properly. I am sorry and tbf I had no idea you were bad until I dead checked you.
I sorrys <3

lol no worries. You know I don't really hold grudges, only joke about them

Zeppelin rules is already such a good sig

haha

LC - I thought you were playing a really good game. I was going to target you N3 for it, but couldn't bring myself to do it.

Turnip Head wrote: Hey splintsy, Roxy killed me too! I think she was scurred of us

Next time we are baddies together we shall have our revenge

It's ok Bea

I know you had/have a lot on your plate. You're lucky I <3 you though! haha

I was sad when I saw who killed me. I was so excited to play with Enrique, and then Rox killed me too. ;( You two are meanies! lol
I was too nice with my targeting. I pick Epig quickly at random because my original choice had been Rey. The next day I picked bullz. I was trying to target people I thought might want to replace out to try and save the hosts the hassle :/

juliets wrote:
fingersplints wrote:My favorite part of the game was tha day when Epig was lynched and he said he wasn't going to be a bitch and vote to save himself. Little did he know he couldn't save himself anyways because I targeted him the night before and his vote didn't count anyways.
I was sad I was killed early because I think I was playing a good Indy game. My role ended up not working out great, and I don't think I stood much of a chance to win, but I was having fun.
hahahahaha thats funny splints! I'm sorry you were gone so soon.

Me too

what is also funny, remember I was saying I only knew two characters other then the Doctor because I was them in previous games? Weeping Angel and Amy Pond. Well I got one again and my husband got the other!

My favorite part of the game was tha day when Epig was lynched and he said he wasn't going to be a bitch and vote to save himself. Little did he know he couldn't save himself anyways because I targeted him the night before and his vote didn't count anyways.

I was sad I was killed early because I think I was playing a good Indy game. My role ended up not working out great, and I don't think I stood much of a chance to win, but I was having fun.

Made wrote:On of the secret roles was Weeping Angel btw.

yup that was me

Dom

Dom wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dom wrote:Curious Incident of the Dog In The Nighttime
There's a stage show of that?

Does a stage show even make sense for that?
It's garnered a lot of praise and many Olivers in London. Just opened on Broadway on the 5th.

Bea! I am! NPH currently is not in it, though. Sad, but still great!

I wanted to see Hedwig when we were in NYC but we missed NPH by about a week.

Should still be great though. And you'll still get to see Idina Menzel in If/Then though, so I'm super jealous. Have fun!

me
I pick w if it counts

Enrique wrote:
Black Rock wrote:Alright slowly catching up and trying to stay current.

A few thoughts on players.

Daisy seems genuine to me, I am leaning civvie here.

Enrique reads baddie to me, once again that's where my vote will probably go.

MP, I'm feeling pretty neutral about him right now. I'm not seeing anything baddie here, just pushy.

I am going to look into Epigs voters posts as well. I feel like there was a last minute push in his direction and I personally did not see why he was so suspicious. Last day is the last I need to completely catch up on so I feel like I am working with full info here.

Linki: Gotrees, how does it make him more suspicious? I might be missing something here.
I want BR to say stuff other than she's voting for me This is the best I've been able to find.

BR, do you have anything to say about anyone else? Let's not leave it at "the Epig voters," be specific.

I'd like to hear BR's take on LC this game.

MP - if keys was a baddie, he would be much more invested. I've said it before I am fairly confident he is a civvie. Chris, despite reassurances from others this is his civvie game, I am unsure of, but am feeling a little better about his posting lately.
How come it's bad for them to focus on certain individuals they think are bad? Roxy has been on hedgie for days, Epi is again pushing Enrique hard. I just don't see how being confident someone is bad automatically makes them bad. And it really feels like you feel that way because it's you they feel confident on.

I honestly only glanced over some of the Made/Dom stuff because it was getting a bit nasty, but I was reading Dom as a civvie and not feeling great about Made, but I'd like to do a better reread of that.

I don't think all the Snow Dog voters were bad, but for the most part that suspicion did seem to pop up out of nowhere suddenly which is why it seems like a save. I'd like to know about Made first before I decide who is his teammate and saving him. Same with daisy

wb Epi. bye canuck

MovingPictures07 wrote:Actually it's probably best to just keep the votes from being spread too much and other than that just vote our suspicions. Trying to coordinate these plans, while great in theory, I'm starting to think they just won't work at all.

It's pretty easy for baddies to manipulate voting plans too. I remember in the King Arthur game on RM (you were actually my teammate so you might remember this), there was a voting plan in place for everyone to vote themselves to try and draw out the baddie whose vote was worth 2 (me). I made it days before I was lynched

and it was for something totally unrelated to the voting plan.

Gotrees wrote:
zeek wrote:If we aim for a tie between a civ and a baddie, the civ will be lynched. No tie. I think its necessary to have a clear choice of 2 votes so its free from manipulation in that sense at least.
Potential outcomes:

CIV + CIV tie = One civ lynched, no baddies revealed, one person confirmed as civ. (worst-case)

CIV + BAD tie = One civ lynched, one baddie revealed.

BAD + BAD tie = One baddie lynched, one baddie revealed. (best-case)

So it's pretty much a gamble, but at least all of the options are better than just lynching a civ like we've been doing these past few nights. Even with option one, we lose a civ but one person is also confirmed as definitely a civ, unless I'm missing some way the baddies can manipulate that. (I suppose they would probably just lynch that confirmed civ the next night, but who knows.)

Anyway, judging by this last poll, I doubt we're all organized enough to go through with that, but if there's any possibility of it happening, I'd be willing to get behind the idea.

Amy Ponds vote is potentially worth two, and I see a baddie with vote manips. So there are at least those factors to consider.

Though I do like where you are coming from, MP. I really hate split votes since we are basically just giving it to the baddies then, so hopefully we can all agree a little better the next day.

You and daisy also took a lot of votes

what do you mean "even if that person isn't necessarily OUR number one suspect"? I don't think anyone should vote for someone they aren't the most suspicious of, and anyone who agrees to do that is suspicious IMO

linki - yup. I would take Elo off the list and add MP and daisy

I voted the 5th Chris!

Snow Dog

linki - No, Grotrees. I don't think the total votes would be made public. While that would be nice, the hosts would essentially be outing all the baddies.

Yea, I can't see why he would so desperately need to protect MP. he only has three votes, and so do daisy and hedge. MM is looking very shady atm. I also found it a bit weird earlier how he was taking a screenshot of the votes so people could see what they were at the time. He seemed to have an issue with the changing of votes then enough to want to document what they were at the time, but switched his vote at the last minute now.

This is such a weird lynch.

S~V~S wrote:
fingersplints wrote: I found this guy in LC's collection and I think he does look pretty cute!

I found that too, but i was looking for the OTHER roll eyes, the one we had at the Piano. That was the PERFECT roll eyes. I wish we had it .

Maybe danhm still has the pack on his computer, or knows where he got it so we can get that guy? He was perfect.

I did find these guys, which might be fun for the game

LINKI YOU FOUND HIM SVS ^_^

Enrique wrote:Also, this spread of votes... damn.

Yea, it's really making me a bit uncomfortable.

Dom wrote:
zeek wrote:
Dom wrote:
zeek wrote:Snow Dog has gone from Hedgeowl to Spacedaisy to Made.

Is nobody but Made even concerned about him?
Zeek, tell me all the people that MP has voted during the course of a lynch
Please read a previously made post by yours truly that refers to the fact that MP gives a reason when he changes his vote. Snow Dog does not.

linki - Where is the eye rolling smiley? Can someone direct Dom to it please.
I think I missed that post. I just wanted to see if you had a reason

Please, roll your eyes. It's cute.

I found this guy in LC's collection and I think he does look pretty cute!

Made wrote:
fingersplints wrote:Hey Made, Have you gotten chance to find the suspicious quote yet? Sorry you are busy and stressed
it was actually a Dom quote. When he asked who suggested Mp survived because of it being a team thing. The idea of that pinged me so i quickly read through you. Didn't find anything of note.

Ok great thanks.

Hey Made, Have you gotten chance to find the suspicious quote yet?

Sorry you are busy and stressed

zeek wrote:Drive By vote from Bass. Hope he's preparing a post because that always looks dodgy.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:I going to stick with what I said a vote Made. I feel like the case on Hedge and Elo are nit the strongest so I would rather vote for someone I think is a baddie.

zeek wrote:Is it possible Spacedaisy is Strax? That power isn't useful until you know someone is bad. Given how she was almost lynched it would make sense that someone who suspected her would block her and that she would use her power given she'd probably be lynched soon.

I had someone else in mind for that role, but I could be wrong.
I don't really consider someone who says their power isn't useful as role hinting.

keys56000000000 wrote:I didn't know Daisy role hinted. I feel very uncomfortable with a last minute push for someone that's role hinted.

wait daisy role hinted too?

S~V~S wrote:And it is a good thing to consider. I know Epi was not popular, but he was a civvie. And I do think his lynch felt like Saving Miss Daisy.

I agree it was a save, and all these other lynch options popping up today feel a lot like distracting from her too.

Ok, I'm switching to daisy

S~V~S wrote:Made? I was hoping for Hedge vs Daisy, but no one feels the Daisy thing except me. I agree, Made is playing a way different game than I am used to (did anyone ever answer re whether he has ever been a baddie? No, right?) and I could see him being bad. BUt I could see Daisy & Hedge & Metalmarsh being bad, too.

Linki~ good points re secrets.

I said I was considering a SD vote

I did not say her hint makes her bad. I am saying if I take the hinting out of it (since there are both civvie and baddie roles that can survive NK and I don't know if she was telling the truth) her actions in the thread and her vote history make her look bad. I've already said I am considering changing my vote since I am a bit worried about her telling the truth now that I have some reassurance that a baddie Elo is not that bold.

SVS, Elo says she is not one of those three. At least that is how I interpret this post:

Elohcin wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:MM: Seriously? I've been talking my head off and I even mentioned once earlier to JC that I felt a bit uncomfortable talking during the night when I typically do not, so yeah... Given the fact that I took no votes yesterday, I had a feeling I was going to get targeted with an NK.
I stand by what I said. Survived night kills are fishy. You're clearly not a cybertron, which makes you less suspish. I also have been getting civvie vibes from you in general. But you still survived a night kill.

Linki: You're not on my lynch list.

Linki 2: Stop posting MP and let me post.
Three civ roles appear to have the ability to potentially survive an NK on their own; Mickey, Sarah Jane and Captain Jack. So what makes it so suspish? Plus the person who attempted to kill Elo was a civvie. I am curious why her survival does not seem as bad to you.
Look harder....there are other civ roles with surviving skills.

S~V~S wrote:I know I am behind, but I don't rcall anyone else hinting at being a role survival civvie, was it MP?

Nevermind, I read this fast and missed the due to the events of last night. Not sure what LC is getting at here then.

Long Con wrote:Hey, I know I'm being quiet, but I'm reading along, trying to figure out what's what. I'm a little suspicious of MP for being The Master, but I think I'm more sympathetic at the suspicion he's gotten for surviving a night kill. I'll add it into the mix that there's a Civvie role I know he's not due to the events of last night. Just to balance out the baddie roles we know he's not. Barring some ballsy self-kill he knew he could survive. Is there any protections revealed in any of the Cyberbullies?

S~V~S wrote:Thats some mad formatting, Dom

fingersplints wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:
Made wrote:Do you know why you didn't die Eloh?
That seems to be what she's implying here:

elo wrote:Did you guys not reread the civ roles pertaining to surviving night kills?
linki: Elo's dropping serious hints here. I don't know what to make of it, but it'd be best to exercise caution here.
I'm only restating what I already said the day after the attempted NK, nothing more. And I didn't get any PM from the host saying I went too far then, so I am thinking I am okay.
Thing is, I don't have any reason to trust you or believe you are telling the truth here. There are baddie roles that can survive kills too.
I have to think about this some. I'm not sure why you wouldn't be punished if what you claim is true.
Personally, I think it is very believable. My only reasoning in bringing it up after the night post was that people were all over MP for surviving, not all over Elo. I don't know that I think Elo has the balls (and I mean this in a good way, lol) to false role claim as overtly as this.

\She has implied she is one of the civ roles that might be NK resistant. That is clear. What more do you want her to say?

My standard, "just walked in the door, react to the last few posts" post.

I am going to drop a vote on Daisy, might change it later, but I may or may not have a lot of thread time tonight, my brother is having a sad, and taking care of my baby brother is more important. But I will try.

Anything anyone has specifically addressed to me that I have not addressed?

Linki~ Another post

I don't want her to say any more? I just am undecided if I believe it at this point. I don't know her as well as you, so I don't know that she wouldn't falsely role claim like this. I'm pretty sure I remember someone else hinting at another civvie role that survives NKs. So, the options for those are dwindling.
I don't know if I am willing to risk it atm though since the hosts said lynching a civvie this time would be bad. Daisy is one of my other top suspects at this point. So I could consider a vote there, or maybe at Made for refusing to address why I am # 3 on his suspect list.

Elohcin wrote:
keys56000000000 wrote:
Made wrote:Do you know why you didn't die Eloh?
That seems to be what she's implying here:

elo wrote:Did you guys not reread the civ roles pertaining to surviving night kills?
linki: Elo's dropping serious hints here. I don't know what to make of it, but it'd be best to exercise caution here.
I'm only restating what I already said the day after the attempted NK, nothing more. And I didn't get any PM from the host saying I went too far then, so I am thinking I am okay.

Thing is, I don't have any reason to trust you or believe you are telling the truth here. There are baddie roles that can survive kills too.
I have to think about this some. I'm not sure why you wouldn't be punished if what you claim is true.

5 PM EST. people are probably finishing up with work

It says the numbers next to it, so you know the order they were placed. 2 more votes for hedge were cast, and keys switched his from Dana to MP before you voted.

Snow Dog wrote:Is Hedge playing more than one game?

I checked Monty Python and Clue - she is dead in both those, so unless she plays elsewhere.. No.

Roxy wrote:Linky splints - inre: Elo. yah she was on my radar at the beginning but when she responded initially I felt better about her. Her dana suspicion feels a bit forced (is the only way it feels to me) still feel more confident in my Hedge suspicion.

I am the opposite. I see and appreciate the hedgie suspicion, but feel slightly more comfortable with Elo at this point. I'm voting there now. I have missed enough votes this game, and don't want to risk another, plus it can always be changed it if something compelling comes up.

Epig is clearly the "flying under the radar" kind of player.

DFaraday wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: I've played a lot of games with DF over the years but this seems uncharacteristic. He seems to no u Daisy and expresses a tone of outrage that I practically never see from DF. Can anyone else corroborate this for me or do you disagree?
Clearly you weren't there for my LOST flipout. I can get very testy when I feel unjustly accused; in this case, the fact that Daisy had literally nothing to go on other than not liking my reason for voting in the night poll, and yet saying that I'm her top suspect because of that.

And of course I was actually voting Daisy, but what I meant was it wasn't intended to be permanent. I just wanted to call attention to her before heading out, then come back and actually vote later. On that note, I am voting Elo based on the fact that she was part of the Juliet-wagon, then the Azure-wagon, then she made no attempt to defend herself other than "I'm always blendy", then she mysteriously survived an NK from the civ ninja.

*Votes Elo*

Hey DF, I agree with your assessment of Elo and will also likely be voting there. In addition to these many things, what also pinged me was that she seemed to be telling Dana that knowing someone outside of mafia doesn't mean you can read them well (siting her husband as an example), but she had seemed pretty convinced of her husband's civviness the day before. I can't read everyone I know outside of mafia well, but some I can. I don't know, something about it just seemed a bit contradictory to me.

Also, I'm a bit curious, during the "LOST flipout" as you call it, were you a baddie or civvie? I'm not saying I suspect you atm (mainly because I agree with your thoughts on both SD and Elo) but I don't think this makes you a civvie either. I've been lynched as a civvie and gotten upset before, and I have also been lynched as baddie for incorrect reasons and been upset before.

Made wrote:Splints, at lunch. Just caught up but not enough time to preply in full. Read the post before my previous, the one that quotes you. It pinged me, and I want to read further into it

Are you talking about this one where you literally cut out everything I said and wrote <snip>?

Made wrote:Hi Dom and SVS!
Been keeping up, but I'm not feeling any suspicion right now. Dana, Mp, and Enrique are all reading civvie for me, especially since Epi died. I'm not sure if it's helping or hurting that I know all of them outside of mafia, but they're playing exactly how i'd expect them to, perserving all the tiny quirks in their behavior that seem to hint at their allignment.

I thought that the vote on Daisy was an attempt of a save on Epi, so in light of his death i'm looking more critically of the arguments against her. This, if true, caught my attention.
fingersplints wrote:
S~V~S wrote:I am probably going to vote for Daisy again, unless something *WOW* comes up. She had like 10 posts, mostly wishy washy buddying to MP, then when she starts taking votes she comes back, makes some 20 posts defending hard, then leaves again. Plus the feels I had previously I still have, and the Epi lynch sure as hell looked like a save to me.

<snip>

wait, svs you think daisy's lynch looked like a save for Epi or the opposite?

No real read on SVS or Dom, but gut is saying Dom, probably just because he's gunning me, so i'm ignoring it.

If I had to vote right now i'd vote Elo due to her voting patterns, but even then the thing throwing me off is that a mafia wouldn't blatantly vote group that would they?
I plan to read through the Daisy argument further on the car ride home from school.

Class period is ending, Seey'all at lunch maybe?

juliets wrote:splints, regarding Chris SVS expressed exactly what I see from him so far. The only thing that makes me uncomfortable is if his game is as different as he claims maybe that maniacally rubbing his hands together part of his baddie game is gone.

I will admit I'm struggling with this game so far - so many accusations that I don't feel like I can accurately sort the data fast enough. I can't believe I've played with Dom so long and still don't know his game very well. So far though the accusations against him are not attractive to me. MP I'm completely up in the air on. One thing I have noticed about him when he's bad is his thoughts/theories seem to just go into overdrive and some of the most outlandish theories surface. I remember him talking a lot (perfectly normal) but not having outlandish theories yet. I'm going back over his posts though (oh god help me) to make sure. Hedge I'm worried about especially since she promised Roxy that explanation twice and hasn't delivered.

Elo doesn't strike me as bad even though she voted for juliets 1.0 for no reason other than 'well, I guess it's Juliets today' and then said she really wasn't playing this game because of the other game. This sounds just like Elo and something she would say as a civ. No sugar coating, just 'yes, i've voting this person just because she looks like the one to vote and oh by the way I'm not really playing this game'. I believe if she were bad her baddie teammates would have helped her craft something more acceptable.

So what about made and zeek and splints (didn't someone have her on their list? why was that?) and Daisy and Bass (I'm a little worried there) and people whose names i don't remember right now? I don't know. I have a lot of re-reading to do.

linki, will read after i post

thanks for your response re:Chris. Like I have said, I tend to always view him as bad.

as for me being on someones list, I was on Made's # 3 spot for a "peak of interest". I'm still waiting for him to clarify what that means.

Also, I'm right there with you. (the struggling) I don't know if it's the amount of people or the amount of suspicions flying around or what, but I am having a harder time than usual too.

Chris wrote:A. I don't think LC can read me any better than the normal player. If anyone can read me, it's SVS.

B. I thought I floated the idea that MP was a baddie who self targeted, but maybe I'm wrong.

And keys, I am normally more of a baddie hunter, but I haven't played in a long time, and I was having some trouble getting into this game. But I am getting in to it more now, although I doubt I'll ever be as involved as I used to.

hmm, I was going to ask SVS as well but then I thought of a game when I hosted you both and I think she helped get you lynched and you were both civvies. Well, ok then. SVS - what do you think about Chris this game? While I'm at it, I'd like to hear from juliets as well.

Enrique wrote:Has LC been around since that post? I thought it was weird that splints specifically asked him for his opinion on Chris, but I dunno. She did offer a reason, because apparently Elsie is really good at reading Chris, but it still seemed odd to me that she'd single him out.

I did not single him out. I asked for opinions on him from everyone. No one but MP responded to me. so then I asked specifically keys and LC. Why is it weird to ask people who know him better how they feel about him?
Also, LC HAS been quiet, so this would allow me to better gauge how I feel about him.

linki ~ I'm not even sure what a peak of interest means in mafia so

let me know when its something I can respond to

MP - I am not sure who is my most suspicious of atm. I need to finish reading before I commit to a top suspect. There are several that I am suspicious of, but there are so many quiet players and that makes me really uncomfortable. sabie is rising on my suspicion list. Now that I understand Enrique better I too wonder if her suspicion of Epi was not genuine and therefore she backed off to not make her look bad. I don't feel great about Elo or daisy. I'm going to specifically reread Rox because she usually only pulls the "you know me better" card as a civvie.
I am at my sisters trying to visit with her three children at the moment so hopefully I can read some later.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:keys and LC - when you get a chance I am curious what you two think about Chris so far this game
Is Chris your biggest suspicion right now or not?

Nope, I just think both of those guys are pretty good at reading him and am curious what they think.

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