The Syndicate

Woo woo!! I saw the results during my lunch hour and can finally post!! Great game, super fun and relaxed - perfect for this time of the school year. I'm glad I got to see several people's civ games up close and personal when I'm used to being bamboozled by them. And baddies, fine job - I really was paranoid until the very end.

Elohcin wrote:YAY!!! I'm so excited to win this one.

Ricochet wrote:Congrats, everyone! Eloh is getting real good at winning.

Thanks Rico I think it has to do with the fact that I have only been playing small games lately and I am actually able to keep up and know what's going on. It's so much more fun that way

And what about the puns y'all? 'Ol bloops and I did pretty good, eh? And someone thought it had to be wilgy.

Sloonei wrote:

Elohcin wrote:YAY!!! I'm so excited to win this one.

Ricochet wrote:Congrats, everyone! Eloh is getting real good at winning.

Thanks Rico I think it has to do with the fact that I have only been playing small games lately and I am actually able to keep up and know what's going on. It's so much more fun that way

And what about the puns y'all? 'Ol bloops and I did pretty good, eh? And someone thought it had to be wilgy.

I wanted to make more puns myself, but I think the thought that I was on the lookout for pun opportunities blocked my ability to actually do it. It's usually just an accidental part of my game.

niju has had the role that gets to post things anonymously like that both times that I've seen it used.

It is my favorite kind of role, and puns are my extra-favorite

Yeah, I'll do this thing. *crosses fingers*

Golden wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:Take foot. Insert in mouth. Rinse and repeat.

Are you rinsing the foot or the mouth?

Well, they're really tentacles, so they're always rinsed :P

Take foot. Insert in mouth. Rinse and repeat.

Sorry, LC - I guess you're just a guy who happens to be standing next to a brand new Honda Odyssey, handing out candy :P

I wasn't Natasha'd - I was seriously tinfoiling, and am still a little paranoid (as I always am in mafia - I hate being tricked, and it's a wonder I continue to play sometimes). So I'm thinking, similarly to others, that Natasha failed to send in her night action, as no one is claiming to be forced.

Rainbow list? I'll do nothing of the sort, for I hate them But I will say that I trust Eloh, as I've stated and explained before, and am feeling hella better about LC after that lynch (I'll always have a bit of paranoia regarding you, and if you've tricked me this time, I'll never, ever trust you again, ever). What gives me pause about bea's vote is that it sealed the deal with zebra, so that makes me think she's good, but the inactivity regarding Natasha could point to her as well. sprityo does look pretty bad in that lynch. I'm going to be paranoid (okay, that's three times using the word, so no more of that) until the very end, because shit, Wilgy could still be bad and hiding behind a bussing vote, as could anyone on the zebra vote, but if I'm going to simplify things, sprityo looks the worst. Followed by bea.

There. I've spoken. Let's see what happens.

Long Con wrote:I'm voting sprityo now. I need to get myself updated and finish what I started today in the Battle of the Hosts game, but I'll come back and give you my reasons in a more organized fashion tomorrow. Wilgy, as the one person I'm quite sure isn't bad, I hope that I will be able to get your support on the sprityo lynch.

And just in case people are actually thinking of following sprityo and deciding that I'm bad, I thought I'd just point out that I was Scrooched on Day/Night 3, which means that I was unable to use any night powers that phase.

Boris killed on Night 3, and Natasha seduced Wilgy on Night 3.

So.... unless Wilgy is Boris, and I'm Natasha, and Wilgy was faking being Natasha'd in order to cover for me, then I am literally a Confirmed Civ. I am not lying, and I am not trying to trick anyone. Wilgy is the only one that KNOWS this is undeniably true... for the rest of you Civs, decide whether Wilgy and I are baddie teammates, or that you can trust me without any doubt.

If anyone wants to poke holes in that logic, then I'm all ears. It's time to enter the endgame for a Civ win, so I hope you are ready to focus and lynch the right people.

I look forward to this defense, because I'm convinced you're bad. But I can still listen.

What you're listing is exactly the kind of thing you and Wilgy would do as baddie teammates, and even list it out in the thread like a cartoon villain, just to get a laugh at endgame. Why are you suddenly cool with Wilgy? You voted for the guy twice in a row, adamantly. It's not like he's has a major breakthrough or change in behavior, and his voting record still stinks. And you spent so. Much. Energy. Trying to convince the thread to vote away from Scotty the second time he was up on the chopping block. When you say "trust me," I imagine you standing out in front of a rusty van, telling me you have candy :P

I gotta go be a good little maid of honor and help my friend pick out dresses, but I'm gonna put my vote on LC for now. I'll be back to see what transpires. I really will listen if something else can be said.

a2thezebra wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:Eloh isn't bad.

Zebra: Consistent. Incorrect on four occasions, but consistent.

Why are you convinced that it's encyclopedic fact that Eloh is civ? I've been asking people why they think she's town this whole game and I still haven't gotten a response that's more than "eh, she just seems town" and that kind of thing. And that's fine and all, but speaking in these absolutes is disconcerting. Saying that she isn't bad is whatever, that could just mean that you're confident about her being civ. But saying that I was incorrect on four occasions to vote for her...that's suspect.

Because of this, I won't vote for Sorsha today. While I appreciate your effort to analyze the votes, I think your motive for doing so may be anti-town. It seems like more of a defense of Eloh disguised as a call to vote for Sorsha. I realize a post can have more than one point, but it reads to me like you want this post to seem like it's mainly focusing on Sorsha when I feel like it's main purpose is to prevent an Eloh lynch.

And an Eloh lynch is really overdue.

I see where you're coming from regarding not trusting people's absolutes, but you've got a case of tunnel vision. I don't see what makes her clearly bad to you. Her votes don't stand out as particularly bad, and the fact that she consistently voted Scotty in both major Scotty lynches makes her look pretty good compared to others, if you need something more concrete. I suppose it's a matter of reading her posts as civ, then, after that.

Sorsha wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Those voting records are good enough for me. Sorsha it is.

Yup, Eloh/niju officially seems more likely to me than Eloh/Sorsha.

I think they have bts but is it baddie? I've been more suspicious of blooper than of Eloh but I think they are the same, regardless. I wish LC would give some thoughts about someone other than wilgy.

What do you think of wilgy zebra?

Where did these suspicions come from? I'm feeling better about my vote after this post.

Why are our votes already spread among three people?

Zebra, Eloh isn't bad. Go for someone else. Let's work on this while I'm here for a bit.

I've been tinfoiling today (and it may be lingering stomach flu talking), but I've been wondering things. I'm gonna have a look at good ol' voting records for a bit.

zebra: Eloh, Eloh, Eloh, Scotty, Eloh
bea: Sloonei, miss, miss, Scotty, SVS
Wilgy: Scotty, Sloonei, Eloh, Sloonei, Sorsha
Eloh: sig, miss, Scotty, Scotty, SVS
LC: sig, Scotty, miss, Wilgy, Wilgy,
Me: BWT, indiglo, Wilgy, Scotty, SVS
Sorsha: zebra, indiglo, Wilgy, SVS, Wilgy
sprityo: miss, Eloh, Scotty, miss, Eloh

Mmmmk. Thoughts based on voting:

Zebra: Consistent. Incorrect on four occasions, but consistent. Votes on the second Scotty lynch.
bea: Two missed votes, votes for Scotty the second time.
Wilgy: Votes Scotty the first day (the only one to vote him IIRC), then votes all over the place. Completely avoids both Scotty lynches, claims he was forced. Hmm.
Eloh: Votes on both Scotty lynches. Misses a vote that almost kills her.
LC: Votes Scotty the second day, misses the first Scotty "lynch," votes in the non-changeable second Scotty lynch for Wilgy, after Wilgy since.
Me: I'm perfect. Actually, I've just been lazy, if I'm going to be honest, but at least I managed to get one.
Sorsha: Complete avoids both Scotty lynches.
sprityo: Misses the second Scotty lynch completely.

So I suppose the three that stand out to me, voting wise, are Sorsha, Wilgy, and LC. What do two of them have in common? Voting for Wilgy. LC claims Wilgy is lying. LC spend a lot of time in the second Scotty lynch trying to convince others not to vote Scotty. Wilgy claims LC is lying. Sorsha's defended herself. I think. Everyone lies in mafia. I need to eat, and votes are changeable, and I wanna see what people say/do.

I'm gonna vote for Sorsha, because I'm good voting there and I don't want to spread the vote more, but honestly, I'm okay voting for any of these three, more on the Sorsha and LC side than Wilgy ATM, but by a very slim margin.

Good game, good game! Nothing like a little speed trivia to break up the monotony of recovery :P

Pink Floyd
Yes
Genesis
King Crimson
Jethro Tull
Emerson, Lake and Palmer

LINKI DAMN

DrWilgy wrote:I work at starbucks... how did you beat me?

Haha whoops, this is what I meant to quote!

DrWilgy wrote:Moby Dick

English teacher

Moby Dick

Saudi Arabia

Just gonna guess Islam because it hasn't been said :P Now I just wanna know the answer!

*shakes fist*

Myrmidons

A winged lion with the tail of a scorpion?
Gahh, the linki!

Selenium!

Probably not the answer llama wanted :P

43?

S~V~S wrote:I find it unlikely that both the Narrator & B/N forced a vote on me. I don't see bea doing it that way if she were bad, pretending to be forced. It would be kinda mean and she does not do mean convincingly. To me Ninjas vote looks the crappiest.

You were absolutely right Sorry, SVS - I mostly blame illness, but I could've done better before its onset.

I'm sitting up today and eating food a toddler eats, so I may be up for trivia later. It is my weakness. That and dark chocolate. And good beer. And dark chocolate beer. All things I can't have right now

Oh, and voting poetry. I thought about Know-All lessons, but I just like poetry too damned much

Blargh, I've been battling the first true stomach bug I've had in ages (aches, nausea, the works) all day, so I apologize that I'm not up to optimal playing tonight. One of my kids must've prayed a liiiiiiittle too hard to not have to present their Odyssey project today. Or tomorrow.

Many of the people up for votes and being discussed are tricky tricky. My brain hurts along with my head sorting that out. Gonna vote SVS because she's one of those and I like Sorsha's point, and even though I'll be around the house tomorrow morning, I'm hoping I sleep through the morning :P Sorry for the cloudy, piss-poor explanation. Back to bed with me.

Long Con wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Long Con's claim is thr first and only thing to give me pause so far on this Scotty wagon, but all the votes are locked into place anyway. Apparently the Battle of the Hosts has sucked me in completely and I don't know how to balance playing in two games at once as well. I promise to say more things later.

It gave me pause, too, but I'm wondering why he took so long (hehe) to reveal this information - why didn't he say it earlier yesterday when there were more people around (or would have eventually come to read it) to discuss it? He had posts earlier in the day, too. Strange timing.

I've caught up, and I'm voting Scotty, because it's the simplest route, logically - his survival most likely points to his being Nell or Fearless Leader, and it's a win-win voting again (except that it would "waste" a lynch if Nell, but not really waste since we'd get info, or it wouldn't win if Epi happened to be Dudley). Yes I know that's all been said, but that's the bane of my coming in so late in the Day when so much has been discussed.

Now I can eat breakfast, or relax or something.

Well, my posts earlier in the day were regarding who has been targeted with vote-forcing, because I was hoping to get more information about the Narrator and what is possible and what is impossible. Unfortunately my posts were mostly ignored, and so here we are.

Fair enough. I did see you were inquiring about the Narrator, and that your questions weren't answered. I have no answers to them, for what it's worth, but am curious as to how that mechanic works, as well.

Okay, maybe really going away to relax? Perhaps? Maybe? Probably not.

Sloonei wrote:Long Con's claim is thr first and only thing to give me pause so far on this Scotty wagon, but all the votes are locked into place anyway. Apparently the Battle of the Hosts has sucked me in completely and I don't know how to balance playing in two games at once as well. I promise to say more things later.

It gave me pause, too, but I'm wondering why he took so long (hehe) to reveal this information - why didn't he say it earlier yesterday when there were more people around (or would have eventually come to read it) to discuss it? He had posts earlier in the day, too. Strange timing.

I've caught up, and I'm voting Scotty, because it's the simplest route, logically - his survival most likely points to his being Nell or Fearless Leader, and it's a win-win voting again (except that it would "waste" a lynch if Nell, but not really waste since we'd get info, or it wouldn't win if Epi happened to be Dudley). Yes I know that's all been said, but that's the bane of my coming in so late in the Day when so much has been discussed.

Now I can eat breakfast, or relax or something.

Apologies for my absence - yesterday was busier than I thought. I had friends over in the evening, so I had to clean the mess that was my apartment, and by the time they left, it was late and I was far too tired to do any catch-up or make logical decisions. So, gonna try to do that now. Bless these small games and their relatively short readings.

Well, perhaps at the risk of doing something similar to what I did to Epi in Occultism, I think I'll vote Wilgy for the behavior. Perhaps it'll encourage more explanation from him? But that's not the main reason to vote - I don't feel like he's been very contributory, and the votes certainly haven't been helping. I'd also like to see how others react.

Epignosis wrote:Really? When was that? I don't recall it.

Occultism, I believe. Day 1. Speaking biblically.

Epignosis wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:

Sorsha wrote:Can Matt be voted for or not?

I'm placing a vote on wilgy for now, I know I was totally off in meta play reading him last game but I'm not feeling great about him atm.

I've been reading a few players and really just have a handful of players who I won't be voting for.

I feel similarly regarding the last statement. I won't vote Eloh. I feel pretty decent about Epi. I'm feeling much better about Sloonei after reading his recent posts (they're more reminiscent of the civ game I've seen).

I'm not sure how to read Matt/MP at the moment in light of recent events, so I think I'll let that one rest for a day so I can see what Matt says. Wilgy also makes me feel itchy ("also" in response to the post above), but I think that's always the case in games I've been in with him - he's very avant-garde. However, there hasn't been much explanation from him for his votes, so that's also where the itch comes from (and now that sounds kinda gross).

Dunno about bea. So nice. So unsuspicious every time I play with her. Makes me think

Dunno if any of that was helpful, but those are my thoughts at the moment. Back to my other task. Still here for a bit.

I don't think you've ever led a lynch on someone. Maybe you should have a go at it.

I led a lynch on you once

But I was so, so wrong

Sorsha wrote:Can Matt be voted for or not?

I'm placing a vote on wilgy for now, I know I was totally off in meta play reading him last game but I'm not feeling great about him atm.

I've been reading a few players and really just have a handful of players who I won't be voting for.

I feel similarly regarding the last statement. I won't vote Eloh. I feel pretty decent about Epi. I'm feeling much better about Sloonei after reading his recent posts (they're more reminiscent of the civ game I've seen).

I'm not sure how to read Matt/MP at the moment in light of recent events, so I think I'll let that one rest for a day so I can see what Matt says. Wilgy also makes me feel itchy ("also" in response to the post above), but I think that's always the case in games I've been in with him - he's very avant-garde. However, there hasn't been much explanation from him for his votes, so that's also where the itch comes from (and now that sounds kinda gross).

Dunno about bea. So nice. So unsuspicious every time I play with her. Makes me think

Dunno if any of that was helpful, but those are my thoughts at the moment. Back to my other task. Still here for a bit.

Epignosis wrote:To those of you who have no inclination to vote Elohcin (including Elohcin, if she actually, you know, votes or something this time around), I propose this:

No last minute flippity-floppy nonsense, no uninformed votes, no worrying about having to save Elohcin- I believe it we put our heads together and collectively decide who needs to be lynched rather than who needs to be saved, we can ensure Elohcin doesn't get lynched and actually have a chance of netting Mafia.

And I know those whom I trust. I'll return with some analysis.

Oh, and don't get cute and try to lynch me either.

Agreed on that front. I'm around for a bit, multi-tasking, and happy to discuss what I can.

Shit I had a phone post but it's gone now! I hate hate hate posting via phone and have like 8 minutes before my next class starts. I can explain better later, but I'm voting indiglo in the hopes of saving Eloh, who I think is gettin votes for dumb reasons and is not bad. Don't get used to this morning stuff - I just happened to have some extra planning period time to check the thread :P

Ooh, okay. That was both a...not confusing, quite, but really perhaps roundabout catch up? I'll try to explain what I mean with some thoughts and a vote.

First of all, although I was surprised when I actually saw the votes on sig (and the resulting lynch), as I read through his exchanges, I could see why others voted for him.

It pains me to say it (and it makes me want to keep a big fat eye on him), but I read Epi as civ. I feel like when I say that, I'm wrong, but I was right in at least one game off the top of my head (Frisky Dingo), and I'm getting the good vibes, so I can see why people would want to save him. The reasons to vote him (especially the ones like, "because of his punny story") looked terribly contrived, even by Day 1 standards.

Not gonna vote for Eloh. I don't even know where the case for that comes from. I see that this quotation is used as a reason:

Elohcin wrote:Wow, that's a lot to think about Epi. I especially like your defense in the end. So do you think SVS or MP could be bad based on your thoughts as to why BWT was killed and the fact that they were both on a past team who killed non-participants?

but it would be incredibly sloppy to just drop names like that, thinking that "no one would notice," and Eloh is not a sloppy baddie. I think she really did want to know, from the last post that Epi made about a mafia team who would kill a non-particpant, if the two people who are currently playing are on his suspect list. Looks logical, and I was wondering the same thing myself about Epi's opinon. The comment made me think.

Regarding those two in my own thoughts...I had thoughts as I was reading, and I really need to start having a tab open where I write these things down as they come so they don't fly away, because, alas, they have flown away. It'll come back to me, but I can only hold so many players in my head at once. I'm distracted by who I plan to vote for.

At first, I read Sloonei as playing a civ game similar to what I experienced in Bullets Over Broadway - a big aggressive, going after players, lots of inquiry - but even as I type that, I don't actually see it as I re-read and see what others have pointed out. It's not that I would expect that level out of every civ game he plays, but I'm seeing more of a contrived game, one where he appears to be making inquiries and baddie hunting, but ignores, perhaps purposely, glaring facts (e.g., the Fearless Leader shenanigans as pointed out by Epi), and votes all over the place for this reason or that, none of which are very good. I'm down with voting him today, and will.

sig wrote:Hi Zebra seemed to give an over the top reaction to SVS, I dislike that. I also hate RVS I think it is more helpful to baddies then town every time. I'm very tired right know so I won't be posting much I'll be back with a fresher mind tomorrow.

OH OH and more importantly, nijuukyugou never answered my beer question.

linki: Stop posting so much.

Well, there's no beer tonight, as it's a school night

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I actually cracked up at Epi's pun, Blooper. But the 'ol lug could always make me laugh.

I can make you do other things.

Like tell you where to find the broom?

Sloonei wrote:I'm going to pressure Nijuukyugou so that I can torture myself by having to write that name over and over. Again. >:)

Oooh, pressure Eventually, the name kinda flows off the fingertips--errr, or, something like that. It is rather annoying, however, if I have to re-enter it on my phone.

Voting in this game will be different for me with the morning poll ending times - I go into work before 7 and don't get out until at least 3 (and usually home between 4-5. Wow. God. I work too much), so I'll be voting super early in the evenings (as in, voting sometime in the evenings, super early by voting standards). I'm used to voting towards the end, so it'll be a change. But I imagine others will be in the same boat.

Gonna go different and vote for BWT, because he hasn't posted as far as I can tell. Pressssssssure. I'll stay in here for a bit tonight to see if that changes or if something else comes to light. Also, discussion while I can!

Linki - Ah, pressure's on the striped one now!

Linki again - *epic facepalm* (or should I say, *Epi facepalm*? )

I'm here! With beer! Cheers!